Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA --- On Thu, 6/26/08, Ricardo Bevilacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ricardo Bevilacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 8:26 PM 2008/6/26 Norman Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, i'm having problem to mount cdrom,cdrw,usb.i have group my user account to all these groups and i can see the icons of cdrom,cdrw,usb but once i double clicked to open it nothing happen. I suspect there is mounting problem to these three drives. Regards, Norman Norman, Maybe you have to check your fstab (posting it here might be a good idea). If that is right, then you should try to mount those drives manually and see the result. Regards, Richard. -- Richard, Actually i'm really new to this Gentoo Linux and also Linux world,can u explain to me how to check the fstab? and how to mount those drives manually? Thanks. Regards, Norman -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] h
On Friday 27 June 2008, kashani wrote: The thing about this keys is, that there is no better way than to brute force such keys. The algorithm uses a function which inverse is a known hard problem which resides in NP, which is a class of functions equal to just guessing. I don't believe this is true. The algorithm uses a function which is *assumed* to be a hard problem. You assume the problem is hard because you and anyone you know have not been able to make it easy. That does not mean that someone has not discovered some math that does make it easy. It's more than a thumb-suck assumption. In maths, assume is overloaded to have an entirely different meaning to what it has in everyday life, much like theory in science. The assumption comes from all the solid maths surrounding the NP problem. As any decent mathematician/cryptologist will tell you, cracking this one is the current holy grail in their field and the amount of man-power being applied to solving it is staggering. Neil mentioned GCHQ developing public key several years before RSA, but do note that RSA still had the same bright idea that GCHQ had, only a few short years later. There are thousands of examples in math and science of the same huge advances being made by two parties independently - because they are working from the same known base. I feel quite confident that the NP problem will be no different. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] util-linux-2.14
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:00:03 -0400, Chris Walters wrote: Actually, if a theory I read about in theoretical physics is true - that is that all events that have occurred, are occurring, and will occur coexist together, and that we only perceive them as being linear because our brains are not capable of experiencing reality any other way, then I already lost control of my children long before the first humans walked the Earth... I know the feeling :( I read something similar about quantum cryptography a few years ago... it gave me a headache. -- Neil Bothwick Don't put all your hypes in one home page. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] h
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:51:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Neil mentioned GCHQ developing public key several years before RSA, but do note that RSA still had the same bright idea that GCHQ had, only a few short years later. The important point was that they kept quiet about it. Even after RSA entered the public domain, they let everyone think it was news to them. Mind you, the UK government kept quiet about breaking Enigma after WWII was over, so they could sell these secure systems to their Commonwealth friends. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 2: Exact estimate signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Errors with External eSATA Drive (DRDY ERR / ICRC ABRT)
Hello,
I keep running into errors while using an external eSATA drive. I have
searched for information regarding this issue, and there just is not
much out there. The best information I've seen mentions that a user was
having this issue, but it went away as long as the disk was connected to
the system at boot. That is not the case for me.
System information:
- Dell XPS 420
- Intel Q6600 cpu
- 4GB ram
- Seagate FreeAgent pro external 500GB disk (USB/Firewire/eSATA)
- lspci: 00:1f.2 RAID bus controller: Intel Corporation 82801 SATA
RAID Controller (rev 02)
- Note: I am not using the RAID functionality.
Software:
- Gentoo Linux
- Kernel: 2.6.25.8 vanilla, self-configured and installed
- Kernel config: http://fire-eyes.org/t/config-2.6.25.8-062708.txt
Reading the disk, things behave fine. When it's written to for a short
period, that is when errors begin to happen. An audible click can be
heard from the drive, transfers stop, and after a short pause, transfers
resume. This continues in a loop, with the clicking happening every 7
seconds or so. There appears to be no damage to the filesystem or
written files, everything just gets put on hold for a few seconds.
Curiously, this does not happen if I attach the disk with USB. I don't
have a firewire cable to try. The eSATA cable is six feet (1.8 meters)
long. Personally, I was a little surprised at how long this cable is; I
searched for a shorter one, and found none. I plan on trying a different
cable when I get around to it.
Here is a short collection of the errors seen when connected via eSATA
(no issues when using USB):
ata6.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2
ata6.00: irq_stat 0x4001
ata6.00: cmd 35/00:00:97:85:b0/00:04:0b:00:00/e0 tag 0 dma 524288 out
res 51/84:00:96:89:b0/00:00:0b:00:00/e0 Emask 0x10 (ATA bus error)
ata6.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
ata6.00: error: { ICRC ABRT }
ata6: hard resetting link
ata6: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
ata6.00: configured for UDMA/133
ata6: EH complete
sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] 976773168 512-byte hardware sectors (500108 MB)
sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't
support DPO or FUA
Any pointers out there? If you require more information, please let me
know. Thank you for reading this post!
-- Fieldy
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Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
OK, it works! this what I did: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/music $ cdda2wav -e -N -B cdda2wav: No such file or directory. Cannot open '-1'. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdda2wav: For possible targets try 'wodim -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. Use the script scan_scsi.linux to find out more. Probably you did not define your SCSI device. Set the CDDA_DEVICE environment variable or use the -D option. You can also define the default device in the Makefile. For possible transport specifiers try 'wodim dev=help'. Then I tried: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/music $ cdda2wav -e -N -B -D /dev/cdrom with much success. So I guess various programs probably try to play the wrong device. How do I point them to the correct one? On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This looks like the two-wire cable between the CD ROM and your soundcard is missing or loose. I'd check this first. If this is a laptop, it might well be that the connection between the two subsystems was left out intentionally by the manufacturer to save a couple of cents. Some do that. :-( I am having the same problem -- but additionally my CDROM has no place to even put such a cable -- at least according to the person who actually put the machine together. I have not opened up the box to check, but if so, what can I do to play cds? It is most inlikely that thius is related to this cable I recommend you to get a recent cdrtools (e.g. from ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/) and install cdda2wav suid root. Then call: cdda2wav -e -N -B If everything is OK, then you will be able to listen to the music. Otherwise you see human readble error messages that point you to the problem. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED](home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 26 June 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: A more general problem is the license incompatibility with libcdio. Sun dropped libcdio already a year ago after Sun lawyers detected the problem and I expect that Linux distros will do the same soon. Could you elaborate a little on what the license incompatibility is? First, libcdio had an illegal license change: the authors took a lot of the code from cdrtools and claim that their code (e.g. derived from cdda2wav) is GPLv2-or-any-later. Well, not a single file from cdda2wav has ever been released under this license. If we ignore this, we come to the problem identified by the Sun lawyers: If you run sound-juicer, then gstreamer (being LGPL) loads and calls libcdio which is GPL. This is not allowed by the GPL. GPL and LGPL are incompatible. While the GPL is asymmetric and allows GPL code to call code under any license, GPLd code is not allowed to be called from non-GPL code. The LGPL has a cure for this problem but if you try to use it, you even come into more problems: The LGPL allows you to change your local copy of code from LGPL to GPL, but this change is irreversible and valid to your local copy and all copies taken from this code. If you did do the change, you would end up in a bunch of GPL libraries that cannot be used anymore by non-GPL code, making your distro unusable. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
Yoav Luft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, it works! this what I did: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/music $ cdda2wav -e -N -B cdda2wav: No such file or directory. Cannot open '-1'. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdda2wav: For possible targets try 'wodim -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. Use the script scan_scsi.linux to find out more. This is not cdda2wav, but a defective and very putdated fork - don't use it. The real cdda2wav does not need the device parameter if yo only have one CD-ROM in your system. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] h
On 27 Jun 2008, at 00:37, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:47:34 +0200, Sebastian Günther wrote: If the NSA had a sufficient algorithm, that is capable of reducing the time that much, they should also be able to prove P=NP. This is worth 1.000.000$ iirc and somehow you should get a Nobel Prize for it. I'm sure the NSA would be happy to forego the prize and keep quiet about being able to break a secure cipher. I can't help wondering if - since P=NP is such a big problem - the advantages of having this knowledge in the public domain might override the advantages of mere spying. Stroller. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
On 27 Jun 2008, at 10:25, Joerg Schilling wrote: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 26 June 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: A more general problem is the license incompatibility with libcdio. Sun dropped libcdio already a year ago after Sun lawyers detected the problem and I expect that Linux distros will do the same soon. Could you elaborate a little on what the license incompatibility is? First, libcdio had an illegal license change... Since you now appear to be answering license questions, could I trouble you, please, to address this query? http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/200045 Thanks in advance, Stroller. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
On Friday 27 June 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: If we ignore this, we come to the problem identified by the Sun lawyers: If you run sound-juicer, then gstreamer (being LGPL) loads and calls libcdio which is GPL. This is not allowed by the GPL. GPL and LGPL are incompatible. Thanks for the explanation -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
On 27 Jun 2008, at 10:57, Joerg Schilling wrote: Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27 Jun 2008, at 10:25, Joerg Schilling wrote: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 26 June 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: A more general problem is the license incompatibility with libcdio. Sun dropped libcdio already a year ago after Sun lawyers detected the problem and I expect that Linux distros will do the same soon. Could you elaborate a little on what the license incompatibility is? First, libcdio had an illegal license change... Since you now appear to be answering license questions, could I trouble you, please, to address this query? http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/200045 If you like to have a serious answer, do not include pointers to nonserious articles like this one: http://lwn.net/Articles/195167/ Sorry, Joerg. I only included that article because it came up when I searched for cdrecord license problem. Perhaps you could overlook my ignorance just this once and explain why you chose to migrate your software from the GPL to the CDDL (or to a CDDL-alike license). To a naive reader, with only that article to go on, it does seem to be that action of yours which instigated distros dropping your software for the alternative. I'm sure, as you say, this was unjustified on their part, however some background on your choice might be helpful. Stroller. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] h
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:44:00 +0100, Stroller wrote: I'm sure the NSA would be happy to forego the prize and keep quiet about being able to break a secure cipher. I can't help wondering if - since P=NP is such a big problem - the advantages of having this knowledge in the public domain might override the advantages of mere spying. I'm sure the holy grail for the NSA is a cipher that everyone thinks is totally secure but they can break. These agencies aren't interested in the greater good, only furthering their own goals. -- Neil Bothwick Tagline file empty. Please refill the bit bucket. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27 Jun 2008, at 10:25, Joerg Schilling wrote: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 26 June 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: A more general problem is the license incompatibility with libcdio. Sun dropped libcdio already a year ago after Sun lawyers detected the problem and I expect that Linux distros will do the same soon. Could you elaborate a little on what the license incompatibility is? First, libcdio had an illegal license change... Since you now appear to be answering license questions, could I trouble you, please, to address this query? http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/200045 If you like to have a serious answer, do not include pointers to nonserious articles like this one: http://lwn.net/Articles/195167/ Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] vlc wants to slot ffmpeg?
Hi there, With an `emerge -pv world` today I've noticed an anomaly with vlv ffmpeg. It initially came up with a portage message which reported AFAIR a package would be slotted for the first time. I uninstalled vlc just for the moment, and upgraded ffmpeg to the latest version. Still I see this problem: 901 ~ $ emerge -pv ffmpeg These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20080326 USE=a52 aac doc encode mmx mp3 network theora truetype vorbis x264 xvid zlib -X (- altivec) -amr -bindist -debug -hardcoded-tables -ieee1394 -imlib - ipv6 -sdl -test -threads 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB 901 ~ $ emerge -pv vlc These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild UD] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20070616 [0.4.9_p20080326] USE=a52 aac doc encode mmx network ogg%* theora truetype vorbis x264 xvid zlib -X (-altivec) -amr -debug -ieee1394 -imlib -oss% -sdl -test -threads -v4l% (-bindist%) (-hardcoded-tables%) (-ipv6%) (-mp3%*) 0 kB [ebuild N] media-video/vlc-0.8.6g USE=a52 dvd flac live mp3 mpeg musepack ncurses ogg png samba stream svga theora truetype vlm vorbis win32codecs x264 xml -3dfx -X -aalib -alsa (-altivec) -arts - avahi -bidi -cdda -cddb -corba -daap -dc1394 -debug -directfb -dts - dvb -esd -fbcon -ggi -gnome -gnutls -hal -httpd -jack -libcaca - libnotify -lirc -matroska -modplug -nsplugin -opengl -optimisememory - oss -rtsp -sdl -sdl-image -seamonkey -shout -skins -speex -svg -upnp - v4l -vcd -wxwindows -xinerama -xosd -xulrunner -xv 11,417 kB Total: 2 packages (1 downgrade, 1 new), Size of downloads: 11,417 kB 902 ~ $ I would (obviously) prefer not to have two different versions of ffmpeg on my system, and you'll see that the version pulled in by vlc has the mp3 USE flag forcibly disabled. I don't know that I've ever actually used vlc, so this is probably unimportant, but I'd like to have it installed just in case I want to stream video around the house in the future. Does anyone know if there's a workaround for this? Cheers, Stroller. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] vmplayer broke again
Hi all, vmplayer broke again. I guess my last update had to do with gtk but still when running vmplayer I get: process 5474: Attempt to remove filter function 0xb58653a0 user data 0x8678f18,but no such filter has been added D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace. Already tried to reinstall vmware-player (v 1.0.6.80404) after going to /opt/vmware/player/bin/vmware-uninstall.pl and also /opt/vmware/player/bin/vmware-config.pl. Any idea? -- Regards. David Harel, == Home office +972 77 7657645 Fax:+972 77 7657645 Cellular: +972 54 4534502 Snail Mail: Amuka D.N Merom Hagalil 13802 Israel Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My last words on cryptology and cryptography.
Steven Lembark [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Thursday 26 June 2008, 23:52:17 I submit that brute forcing an AES key of reasonably length is currently impossible in an amount of time that would matter to the human race. On average yes. As already pointed out, however, there is nothing to prevent the first guess from matching a key and cracking one particular example of the cipher in 0.0001 seconds. A probability of something like 1 / 5 to die in a car accident does not one prevent from driving a car. But a probability of 1 / (2^256) of finding the first key right away at the first guess is easily held up against key security of AES ... now that's a very strange mismatch. Apparently you consider the security of your life much, much less worth than security of your encrypted hard disk ... -- Freedom is always the freedom of dissenters. (Rosa Luxemburg) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Loop-AES versus DM-Crypt versus ???
7v5w7go9ub0o [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Friday 27 June 2008, 05:41:15 Chris Walters wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Sorry if this subject has been hashed and rehashed again, but I was wondering which Gentoo partition encryption scheme is considered the best, in terms of: 1. Security Another thing: If I remember correctly, LUKS keeps the actual key on the encrypted disk, itself encrypted with a passphrase. Naturally this means that an attacker only has to break the passphrase, which gets him the key Naturally ... if the user wants to use passphrases, the key needs to be related to the passphrase somehow, whether by it being derived from the passphrase through hashing or it being encrypted with a second key, that is derived from the passphrase. But a decent hard disk encrpytion system should be able to store the key file on a USB stick or on a smart card. Beside a increased security, because there is weak passphrase, it provides increased comfort: You don't have to enter a silly passphrase on every boot ;) -- Freedom is always the freedom of dissenters. (Rosa Luxemburg) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] h
kashani [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Friday 27 June 2008, 02:28:21 Here's a reference to the interesting meet-in-the-middle attack which reduced 3DES key space down to 112 bits from 192. 3DES always had an effective key size of 112 bits, because it uses the original DES algorithm applied in the following scheme E1(D2(E1(M)) with two different 56-bit DES keys. 3DES never had 192 bit keys. The meet-in-the-middle attack has nothing to do with 3DES. In fact, 3DES was designed the way it works now to _prevent_ meet-in-the-middle attacks. Such attacks can be applied to ciphers, that apply a single algorithm with two different keys: E1(E2(M)) Mathematical, the key size of the latter cipher is equal to 3DES: 56+56 = 112. But the latter cipher is vulnerable to meet-in-the-middle attacks, which is why 3DES uses the second key to apply the DES decryption function with a different key right between the consecutive DES encryptions. Obviously that was unknown when 3DES was built. I doubt. If meet in the middle was unknown at the time of 3DES development, we wouldn't have 3DES today, but 2DES, being as simple as E1(E2(M)). -- Freedom is always the freedom of dissenters. (Rosa Luxemburg) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] vmplayer broke again
On Friday 27 June 2008, David Harel wrote: Hi all, vmplayer broke again. I guess my last update had to do with gtk but still when running vmplayer I get: process 5474: Attempt to remove filter function 0xb58653a0 user data 0x8678f18,but no such filter has been added D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace. Already tried to reinstall vmware-player (v 1.0.6.80404) after going to /opt/vmware/player/bin/vmware-uninstall.pl and also /opt/vmware/player/bin/vmware-config.pl. Have you had a kernel upgrade recently and if so, did you update the vmware modules before rebooting and using vmware again? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] h
On Friday 27 June 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:44:00 +0100, Stroller wrote: I'm sure the NSA would be happy to forego the prize and keep quiet about being able to break a secure cipher. I can't help wondering if - since P=NP is such a big problem - the advantages of having this knowledge in the public domain might override the advantages of mere spying. I'm sure the holy grail for the NSA is a cipher that everyone thinks is totally secure but they can break. These agencies aren't interested in the greater good, only furthering their own goals. This is the spooks we are talking about so I'm sure Neil is right and they are having wet dreams about this very thing. All I can say is, thank $DEITY for open/free software and open algorithms. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
Norman, First understand one thing: The terminal is always a good friend :-) Second, let's explain the fstab: Fstab (filesystem table) is a table with all the specification for you filesystem. Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fstab. To check the content of fstab just type this on you terminal: $ cat /etc/fstab (and paste here the result of this command) Third, to mount manually a device, you need to know first which device is what on your Linux. Usually, cdrom is some /dev/hdc thing. Then, to mount it: $ mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom The strange things is: How did you installed gentoo without knowing this issues? :-) Hope this 2 cents helps you. On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:25 AM, Norman Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA --- On Thu, 6/26/08, Ricardo Bevilacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ricardo Bevilacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 8:26 PM 2008/6/26 Norman Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, i'm having problem to mount cdrom,cdrw,usb.i have group my user account to all these groups and i can see the icons of cdrom,cdrw,usb but once i double clicked to open it nothing happen. I suspect there is mounting problem to these three drives. Regards, Norman Norman, Maybe you have to check your fstab (posting it here might be a good idea). If that is right, then you should try to mount those drives manually and see the result. Regards, Richard. -- Richard, Actually i'm really new to this Gentoo Linux and also Linux world,can u explain to me how to check the fstab? and how to mount those drives manually? Thanks. Regards, Norman -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- Eduardo Otubo Linux Registered User #424252 http://otubo.net |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Replacing my router
I have 2 Internet connections, 1 fast ADSL and 1 slow wireless as a backup. My router doesn't do automatic failover or even have support for multiple WAN connections so I thought I'd set up PPP connections on my Gentoo server that do PPPoE to the 2 modems which I connected directly to my switch. This worked well but I soon realised that my server was offering up DHCP IP addresses to machines on the otherside of my wireless connection! So what I want to do is setup my switch as a router. I'm a bit of a newbie on advanced networking but I think that a router is basically just a switch with a VLAN for the local network and VLAN for the WAN. Is this assumption correct? If so I will setup 2 VLAN's on my switch (a Linksys SGE2000). Also how can I setup the NIC on my server to be connected to both VLAN's and only do DHCP for the local VLAN? Should I be able to or need to prevent one VLAN from seeing the second VLAN? What is STR and do I need to set this up? Any other suggestions? Cheers, Dave. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vlc wants to slot ffmpeg?
Stroller, This doesn't mean that ffmpeg is slotted. It means that the version of VLC you're trying to merge depends on an OLDER version of ffmpeg. VLC has some major issues with later versions of ffmpeg that are being handled rather poorly upstream. So unfortunately, if you want to use a stable VLC (0.8.x) you have to use a rather old ffmpeg. Nothing can be done to correct this. If you want a newer ffmpeg, try moving to a masked version of VLC or find a 0.9.x version in an overlay. Any attempt at making VLC 0.8.x work with newer versions of ffmpeg will result in video playback with audio only (no video). - Brian On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:39 AM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, With an `emerge -pv world` today I've noticed an anomaly with vlv ffmpeg. It initially came up with a portage message which reported AFAIR a package would be slotted for the first time. I uninstalled vlc just for the moment, and upgraded ffmpeg to the latest version. Still I see this problem: 901 ~ $ emerge -pv ffmpeg These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20080326 USE=a52 aac doc encode mmx mp3 network theora truetype vorbis x264 xvid zlib -X (-altivec) -amr -bindist -debug -hardcoded-tables -ieee1394 -imlib -ipv6 -sdl -test -threads 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB 901 ~ $ emerge -pv vlc These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild UD] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20070616 [0.4.9_p20080326] USE=a52 aac doc encode mmx network ogg%* theora truetype vorbis x264 xvid zlib -X (-altivec) -amr -debug -ieee1394 -imlib -oss% -sdl -test -threads -v4l% (-bindist%) (-hardcoded-tables%) (-ipv6%) (-mp3%*) 0 kB [ebuild N] media-video/vlc-0.8.6g USE=a52 dvd flac live mp3 mpeg musepack ncurses ogg png samba stream svga theora truetype vlm vorbis win32codecs x264 xml -3dfx -X -aalib -alsa (-altivec) -arts -avahi -bidi -cdda -cddb -corba -daap -dc1394 -debug -directfb -dts -dvb -esd -fbcon -ggi -gnome -gnutls -hal -httpd -jack -libcaca -libnotify -lirc -matroska -modplug -nsplugin -opengl -optimisememory -oss -rtsp -sdl -sdl-image -seamonkey -shout -skins -speex -svg -upnp -v4l -vcd -wxwindows -xinerama -xosd -xulrunner -xv 11,417 kB Total: 2 packages (1 downgrade, 1 new), Size of downloads: 11,417 kB 902 ~ $ I would (obviously) prefer not to have two different versions of ffmpeg on my system, and you'll see that the version pulled in by vlc has the mp3 USE flag forcibly disabled. I don't know that I've ever actually used vlc, so this is probably unimportant, but I'd like to have it installed just in case I want to stream video around the house in the future. Does anyone know if there's a workaround for this? Cheers, Stroller. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vlc wants to slot ffmpeg?
On 27 Jun 2008, at 17:08, Brian Johnson wrote: ... This doesn't mean that ffmpeg is slotted. It means that the version of VLC you're trying to merge depends on an OLDER version of ffmpeg. VLC has some major issues with later versions of ffmpeg that are being handled rather poorly upstream. So unfortunately, if you want to use a stable VLC (0.8.x) you have to use a rather old ffmpeg. Nothing can be done to correct this. If you want a newer ffmpeg, try moving to a masked version of VLC or find a 0.9.x version in an overlay. Any attempt at making VLC 0.8.x work with newer versions of ffmpeg will result in video playback with audio only (no video). Thanks for the explanation. I'll wait until 0.9 goes stable. When originally running `emerge -pv world` I *did* get an emerge message about slotting, and it did appear to be trying to emerge BOTH versions of ffmpeg, but I'm afraid I can't reproduce this now. I guess I could do so by grabbing the media-video/vlc-0.8.6f ebuild from Portage's attic putting it in local, but I can't be arsed. You'll just have to trust me when I say I don't know the exact message. Thanks for trying, Stroller.
[gentoo-user] congruant gentoo servers
Hello, I need to deploy a (gentoo) server, on an isolated, remote network, with just a few custom applications. However, to periodically update the gentoo distro, I want to build a second (congruent) system, that can be physically swapped for update, or in the event of failure (brain-dead, I know but for now, that's a hard constraint). So I have system with identical mother boards, cpus and the same amount of ram. The size of the drives differs, but, that should not be a problem. Where to start? The both have the same profile: [9] default/linux/x86/2008.0 * The both have the same kernel/options: 2.6.24-gentoo-r8 The world files are different. One is mimimal and very close to what I want, the other needs many packages removed. Likewise the one system has a minimal make.conf file, which I like, the other is quite bloated over the years. So before I go any further, should I just set about pruning the bloated system down to match the minimal system, or go for a new install. Also what else would I check and modify to ensure the systems are as close to congruent as possbile? rc-status? installed packages? file by file in /etc? Any tools or suggestions to help in this effort are much welcome. Should I just dd one (minmalistic) drive contents to the other? any discussion or ideas are most welcome. James -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Loop-AES versus DM-Crypt versus ???
Sebastian Wiesner wrote: 7v5w7go9ub0o [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Friday 27 June 2008, 05:41:15 Chris Walters wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Sorry if this subject has been hashed and rehashed again, but I was wondering which Gentoo partition encryption scheme is considered the best, in terms of: 1. Security Another thing: If I remember correctly, LUKS keeps the actual key on the encrypted disk, itself encrypted with a passphrase. Naturally this means that an attacker only has to break the passphrase, which gets him the key Naturally ... if the user wants to use passphrases, the key needs to be related to the passphrase somehow, whether by it being derived from the passphrase through hashing or it being encrypted with a second key, that is derived from the passphrase. But a decent hard disk encrpytion system should be able to store the key file on a USB stick or on a smart card. Beside a increased security, because there is weak passphrase, it provides increased comfort: You don't have to enter a silly passphrase on every boot ;) Yes. But If I understand his comment, the LUKS standard requires a copy to be stored on the HD - even if using the more secure dongle - and keeping a passphrase-encrypted copy on the HD permanently renders the HD integrity compromised. ISTM the better way to use a passphrase would be to passphrase-encrypt the encryption key and store it somewhere on a boot sector. On the boot sector - but not within the encrypted disk - as having it on the disk weakens the disk integrity. If you later acquire a USB, you simply transfer the whole encryption key to the USB and remove the passphrase obscuration programs from the boot sector. So IIUC the question becomes, can one configure LUKS to NOT keep a copy of the passphrase-protected encryption key on the HD (or is keeping it there part of the LUKS standard)? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] recommendation for a wireless G Broadband Router
I have a linksys (Cisco) WRT54G, which works fine except for one point. I have been unable to find in the documentation how to tell its dhcp server that mac address X should get IP addr Y. I am prepared to accept the deserved shame if someone tells me how to do this. Failing the above, I am seriously considering buying another router that has this capability. It is frustrating not to know the IP address for machines on our home network (especially the NFS server). I would appreciate any recommendations. The device should have wired ethernet input (from our cable modem) and 4 wired ethernet outputs, plus wireless support, and a dhcp server. thanks, allan -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] recommendation for a wireless G Broadband Router
Allan Gottlieb wrote: I have a linksys (Cisco) WRT54G, which works fine except for one point. I have been unable to find in the documentation how to tell its dhcp server that mac address X should get IP addr Y. I am prepared to accept the deserved shame if someone tells me how to do this. Failing the above, I am seriously considering buying another router that has this capability. It is frustrating not to know the IP address for machines on our home network (especially the NFS server). I would appreciate any recommendations. The device should have wired ethernet input (from our cable modem) and 4 wired ethernet outputs, plus wireless support, and a dhcp server. Go install DD-WRT (http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv3/index.php) on it instead of the less featureful Linksys firmware. Be sure to follow the docs the more recent revs of the wrt54g line have less ram and thus are harder to switch over to the open source firmwares. Aaron -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] congruant gentoo servers
On Friday 27 June 2008, James wrote: Hello, I need to deploy a (gentoo) server, on an isolated, remote network, with just a few custom applications. However, to periodically update the gentoo distro, I want to build a second (congruent) system, that can be physically swapped for update, or in the event of failure (brain-dead, I know but for now, that's a hard constraint). I have one question before I describe a few approaches that came to mind: Is the new (minimal) system a strict sub-set of the old (bloated one)? As in, could you add to the minimal config a bunch of USE flags (that would not change the overall behaviour of what is already there), emerge a lot of new packages, and basically arrive at what you have on the bloated machine? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] congruant gentoo servers
On Friday 27 June 2008, James wrote: Hello, I need to deploy a (gentoo) server, on an isolated, remote network, with just a few custom applications. However, to periodically update the gentoo distro, I want to build a second (congruent) system, that can be physically swapped for update, or in the event of failure (brain-dead, I know but for now, that's a hard constraint). So I have system with identical mother boards, cpus and the same amount of ram. The size of the drives differs, but, that should not be a problem. Where to start? The both have the same profile: [9] default/linux/x86/2008.0 * The both have the same kernel/options: 2.6.24-gentoo-r8 The world files are different. One is mimimal and very close to what I want, the other needs many packages removed. Likewise the one system has a minimal make.conf file, which I like, the other is quite bloated over the years. So before I go any further, should I just set about pruning the bloated system down to match the minimal system, or go for a new install. Pruning a fat system can be very time consuming. I'd rather clone the minimalistic one. Also what else would I check and modify to ensure the systems are as close to congruent as possbile? rc-status? installed packages? file by file in /etc? Any tools or suggestions to help in this effort are much welcome. Should I just dd one (minmalistic) drive contents to the other? I'd rather tar the whole small system up and install this tarball on the other one (after adjusting partitioning, creating filesystems and such). Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: congruant gentoo servers
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: Is the new (minimal) system a strict sub-set of the old (bloated one)? As in, could you add to the minimal config a bunch of USE flags (that would not change the overall behaviour of what is already there), emerge a lot of new packages, and basically arrive at what you have on the bloated machine? No, Years ago they were similar. Then the minimal system lost a hard drive and I reinstalled it, as a minimal gentoo server. The bloated one has been a workstation and had all sorts of gui/kde stuffage installed on it. James -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] recommendation for a wireless G Broadband Router
Another option is the excellent Tomato Firmware (http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato), which does exactly what you need out of the box. Greetings, gordon. On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Allan Gottlieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a linksys (Cisco) WRT54G, which works fine except for one point. I have been unable to find in the documentation how to tell its dhcp server that mac address X should get IP addr Y. I am prepared to accept the deserved shame if someone tells me how to do this. Failing the above, I am seriously considering buying another router that has this capability. It is frustrating not to know the IP address for machines on our home network (especially the NFS server). I would appreciate any recommendations. The device should have wired ethernet input (from our cable modem) and 4 wired ethernet outputs, plus wireless support, and a dhcp server. thanks, allan -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- Greetings, Gordon. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: congruant gentoo servers
Uwe Thiem uwix at iway.na writes: Pruning a fat system can be very time consuming. I'd rather clone the I'd rather tar the whole small system up and install this tarball on the other one (after adjusting partitioning, creating filesystems and such). Yes, that's what occurred to me, as I was mentally going down the list of things to do, to arrive at congruency between the two systems One more difference: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers Installed versions: 173.14.05 versus VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers Installed versions: 96.43.05 So some provisions have to be made, as the older card is barely supported any more. I do need X11 to run JFFNMS on these systems. Or maybe I'll just pick up either another FX5200 or a pair of newer (cheap) video cards so that hardware matches too.? thoughts? James -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:57:43 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote: Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since you now appear to be answering license questions, could I trouble you, please, to address this query? http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/200045 If you like to have a serious answer, do not include pointers to nonserious articles like this one: http://lwn.net/Articles/195167/ Jörg Jörg, The question is valid and interesting, moreover it is asked very kindly. I can't see what possibly might be preventing you to answer the same way. Let me rephrase the original question w/o pointers to any external sources to avoid unintentional offending you: Why do you use a modified CDDL license? What are the advantages of this license over GPL? Please, be assured that there is no single piece of sarcasm in those questions and my intention is not to blame you for anything. Those are a real questions, expressing sincere curiosity. I'm looking forward to reading your response. -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] recommendation for a wireless G Broadband Router
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Gordon Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another option is the excellent Tomato Firmware (http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato), which does exactly what you need out of the box. Another vote for Tomato, as its the best firmware I've used so far. But, if you have a version 5 or latter, then you're stuck with dd-wrt micro edition. I use a WRT54GL (L model is, IMHO, the best). -- Daniel da Veiga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: congruant gentoo servers
On Friday 27 June 2008, James wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: Is the new (minimal) system a strict sub-set of the old (bloated one)? As in, could you add to the minimal config a bunch of USE flags (that would not change the overall behaviour of what is already there), emerge a lot of new packages, and basically arrive at what you have on the bloated machine? No, Years ago they were similar. Then the minimal system lost a hard drive and I reinstalled it, as a minimal gentoo server. The bloated one has been a workstation and had all sorts of gui/kde stuffage installed on it. I had a somewhat similar setup between a desktop machine at home (never connected to the internet) and my notebook. I went for the simplest possible solution: emerge -pvfuND world on desktop, get a list of sources to download download those sources onto notebook next day at work nfs mount the portage and distfiles dirs from notebook to desktop rsync portage dir prepended nfs mounted distfiles to GENTOO_MIRRORS emerge -avuND world True, it needed a fair amount of manual intervention and sometimes I would miss a source file that needed to be downloaded, so the process would take a day longer, but this was far easier to do once a month than concoct some other automated solution -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: congruant gentoo servers
On Friday 27 June 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 27 June 2008, James wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: Is the new (minimal) system a strict sub-set of the old (bloated one)? As in, could you add to the minimal config a bunch of USE flags (that would not change the overall behaviour of what is already there), emerge a lot of new packages, and basically arrive at what you have on the bloated machine? No, Years ago they were similar. Then the minimal system lost a hard drive and I reinstalled it, as a minimal gentoo server. The bloated one has been a workstation and had all sorts of gui/kde stuffage installed on it. I had a somewhat similar setup between a desktop machine at home (never connected to the internet) and my notebook. Reading other replies after I sent the one above, I think I completely misunderstood the OP question. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild
On 13:18 Thu 26 Jun , Alan McKinnon wrote: That info is still a bit skimpy though. Is there anything more somewhere? And what about FEATURES=preserve-libs, is that documented somewhere? All you need to do is to run 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' when you are reminded to. If you want to know the background, take a look: http://r0bertz.blogspot.com/2008/06/portage-22-preserve-libs-features.html Zhang Le -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?
Lately it seems like a new problem pops up every day and every time I try to do something new it doesn't work. Anybody else experiencing that lately? - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?
On Friday 27 June 2008, Grant wrote: Lately it seems like a new problem pops up every day and every time I try to do something new it doesn't work. Anybody else experiencing that lately? No. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?
Grant wrote: Lately it seems like a new problem pops up every day and every time I try to do something new it doesn't work. Anybody else experiencing that lately? - Grant Rock solid. --Joshua Doll -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] h
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:08:04 +0100 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:44:00 +0100, Stroller wrote: I'm sure the NSA would be happy to forego the prize and keep quiet about being able to break a secure cipher. I can't help wondering if - since P=NP is such a big problem - the advantages of having this knowledge in the public domain might override the advantages of mere spying. I'm sure the holy grail for the NSA is a cipher that everyone thinks is totally secure but they can break. These agencies aren't interested in the greater good, only furthering their own goals. Sounds like AES fits the description :D -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Loop-AES versus DM-Crypt versus ???
Am Freitag, 27. Juni 2008 schrieb 7v5w7go9ub0o: So IIUC the question becomes, can one configure LUKS to NOT keep a copy of the passphrase-protected encryption key on the HD (or is keeping it there part of the LUKS standard)? Well, LUKS means Linux Unified Key Setup, that's what LUKS is all about. But hey, maybe I didn't write it often enough: http://luks.endorphin.org should answer all your questions. Your question is already answered in the FAQ (via Docs Wiki tab). HTH... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?
On Freitag, 27. Juni 2008, Grant wrote: Lately it seems like a new problem pops up every day and every time I try to do something new it doesn't work. Anybody else experiencing that lately? - Grant a botched gcc-upgrade/clean cycle damaged gcc beyond repair - but that was easily solved by a 'unpack stage3, chroot into that, sync, emerge --buildpkg gcc, cp, emerge --usepkg' cycle. The following harddisk crash was much harder to work around ;) Apart from that: no. My gentoo works fine and good and without probs. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?
Grant, I've had a lot of problems lately upgrading ~arch and masked packages. This is expected (obviously) but 99% of the time I am able to fix them myself without going through support resources. If you're using any that are ~arch and in packages.mask perhaps that is why you're having problems too! - Brian On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lately it seems like a new problem pops up every day and every time I try to do something new it doesn't work. Anybody else experiencing that lately? - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?
Grant, I've had a lot of problems lately upgrading ~arch and masked packages. This is expected (obviously) but 99% of the time I am able to fix them myself without going through support resources. If you're using any that are ~arch and in packages.mask perhaps that is why you're having problems too! - Brian I think you're right Brian. Of course, this is nobody's fault but mine for using ~amd64 packages, but I only pull those in if I feel I have to. Quite a few of them now though. Does it seem like ~arch packages have been more difficult lately? - Grant Lately it seems like a new problem pops up every day and every time I try to do something new it doesn't work. Anybody else experiencing that lately? - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?
Grant ha scritto: Lately it seems like a new problem pops up every day and every time I try to do something new it doesn't work. Anybody else experiencing that lately? - Grant Yes. Looks like my Gentoo box is rotting these days, but most probably it's me not having time at all to iron out even the smallest things. I have however a couple of *persistent* quirks I don't know how to fix. One is Kopete refusing at all to delete MSN contacts. The other is Flash+CompizFusion interacting badly. But I can live with that. m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:09:16 -0700, Grant wrote: I think you're right Brian. Of course, this is nobody's fault but mine for using ~amd64 packages, but I only pull those in if I feel I have to. Quite a few of them now though. Does it seem like ~arch packages have been more difficult lately? I think it could be the pick-and-mix approach to keywording, I use pure ~amd64 on my desktop and laptop and the only problems I've had recently turned out to be a corrupt root filesystem. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 24: New classic signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:01:10 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Lately it seems like a new problem pops up every day and every time I try to do something new it doesn't work. Anybody else experiencing that lately? No. How can you be so certain that not one of the thousands of Gentoo users is having such problems ;-) -- Neil Bothwick Not tonight dear, I have a Modem!!! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lately it seems like a new problem pops up every day and every time I try to do something new it doesn't work. Anybody else experiencing that lately? After almost 8 months withtou an upgrade, I finally decided to go on with it, and to my surprise the only problem was a library that got borked. After a little research, it was solved and the rest was automagically done by portage. -- Daniel da Veiga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?
b.n. wrote: Grant ha scritto: Lately it seems like a new problem pops up every day and every time I try to do something new it doesn't work. Anybody else experiencing that lately? - Grant Yes. Looks like my Gentoo box is rotting these days, but most probably it's me not having time at all to iron out even the smallest things. I have however a couple of *persistent* quirks I don't know how to fix. One is Kopete refusing at all to delete MSN contacts. The other is Flash+CompizFusion interacting badly. But I can live with that. m. I think I remembered seeing something on the compizfusion ml about issues with flash. --Joshua Doll -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] recommendation for a wireless G Broadband Router
At Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:01:17 -0300 Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Gordon Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another option is the excellent Tomato Firmware (http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato), which does exactly what you need out of the box. Another vote for Tomato, as its the best firmware I've used so far. But, if you have a version 5 or latter, then you're stuck with dd-wrt micro edition. Mine says ver 2 on the device and the web page says the firmware version is v2.02.7. So I will look into tomato I use a WRT54GL (L model is, IMHO, the best). My wife has a newer linksys. Maybe hers is an L. She does use IPC so wouldn't notice the IP addresses changing. Thank you everyone for the advice. allan -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] h
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Alan McKinnon wrote: | On Friday 27 June 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: | On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:44:00 +0100, Stroller wrote: | I'm sure the NSA would be happy to forego the prize and keep | quiet about | being able to break a secure cipher. | I can't help wondering if - since P=NP is such a big problem - the | advantages of having this knowledge in the public domain might | override the advantages of mere spying. | I'm sure the holy grail for the NSA is a cipher that everyone thinks | is totally secure but they can break. These agencies aren't | interested in the greater good, only furthering their own goals. | | This is the spooks we are talking about so I'm sure Neil is right and | they are having wet dreams about this very thing. | | All I can say is, thank $DEITY for open/free software and open | algorithms. Somehow I doubt that the NSA has a magic bullet to crack AES encryption. If they did, it wouldn't be a part of the FIPS. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that the US Navy has more cryptologists, etc. than the NSA - just a guess here. It would make perfect sense, though - since they have to use radios and satellites to communicate with their ships at sea, they would be most interested in data security - we wouldn't want our enemies ordering our ships or nuclear missile subs to make attacks that weren't ordered by the President... Chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJIZWL8AAoJEIAhA8M9p9DAX68QAJaNlRGoASZmMcscX014NPWB R14tkXaOK/ZEcxT3GbbcUTnH8vy4ipbdelw1yGb9s76Rak1/cCXNk8NSSvGtp9J2 yqio2RTXdVy7Jd0luFDsZx+J6tAiMN5P69VUgT/0vjhAt2FDHRiI+93WHAvgh+si 3qyqjv1dP4yS0RCv1hAEB5Kl37okMAvzYWmYQXBrTD5lBpiPNgYmwMr+TRRme6vs SEKFHwSBv8/zDByN1hCNdJ9af1eUSX77fFkT3Ghh5/UTg5dMe1h1oOhHT42k09+d YKII2f7ENYzpEQ5XvZhZGVrEKIAiXc00+1eNt4GSDZufUuOm3IssOQTuhCT/PUDP jAPIdIRN1jyOT+oZhROIWX1jJBfKPZyHGx7ijXACqCqe+7ByusHPduM5yw+9GpH7 ZfM3Jmv22Xdd8oljOxGHTg0mWBp+yyJC7BNFnKDSbkF7UPrRcS8NdNQjtNP78ec7 V25lBTvl6MyVUIu7T+9U9OYlApPSap+D2nJqfwjJyBJ8MlMos3xbPIJzBfUNjOf+ 3PnP9ApUMp98JwYuOe8FCYbwAp/8Gw5DzT1fDOFgAMkYqqBTduy8Gw4itHGegTIY p/584QRpadwKbsBcCpEBJ7FyKGYqOjG2nmf08lq8vUX4Y60ofbVRSoIU1tXV7CWp NWwS0QnnE5ykHpIG1d0/ =LGqw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?
On Freitag, 27. Juni 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:09:16 -0700, Grant wrote: I think you're right Brian. Of course, this is nobody's fault but mine for using ~amd64 packages, but I only pull those in if I feel I have to. Quite a few of them now though. Does it seem like ~arch packages have been more difficult lately? I think it could be the pick-and-mix approach to keywording, I use pure ~amd64 on my desktop and laptop and the only problems I've had recently turned out to be a corrupt root filesystem. yeah, mixing isn't good. Pure systems are way more stable. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: | On Freitag, 27. Juni 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: | I think it could be the pick-and-mix approach to keywording, I use pure | ~amd64 on my desktop and laptop and the only problems I've had recently | turned out to be a corrupt root filesystem. | | yeah, mixing isn't good. Pure systems are way more stable. I would have to agree here. When I tried to use keywords to pull in some testing packages, I was in a world of hurt. When I just chose to use testing, most of the problems disappeared - those that remained were mainly packages that would not emerge. Those have been few, thankfully. Chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJIZWd0AAoJEIAhA8M9p9DABrAQALhEkIWm3LrcgL0XDhoBwoyt 14KpeN8xNa3nwkernGNRCqZNfe6OAaN/7rkTYusgL0rSy0SBQuweuvmfCZ9OY2oO LTgxspwqn8sZVGtOhbHgfkMDfX+TSgkKKh3XknEbpIjVTKkA/ZQa3ShvKj+BGTDp vTg00BJuO0LJbAbkG8Q8oMHO1MrKfjiIrGja8rgHX0LLYnyYx9BfNKumUPufEDo9 vYZkkhKcnsVhcaIUl/KgbSLAoWwli+4sKHGtfk9yWovaHHOaFjbjJEYS63fzXof2 iTGyrWd8HibJaNTiu8Kzs8C4CV5nE6O1T9MTo3d2QdvPXzlGvTxQs9vI2U0Q3ojO l+fVXtMuzN7ilfce0sGvIDT0h1pYy/A7R7W8zxs59GswJg2Z9wpTCwNvY7Kplx9u rM+rLTkdELKJljVZ1qZcgz9OfS1zMPUxGGDUMIgwiSPD0By0pQlEQ5vEwmYSv0VD Qy48H1ewvJwHqPajLt2TZ/3gNo35NgRe5b5jzPXxE5SAJs8WVsbhOvKDMns+ELsI BNGyRBUjGnoB32qRUXIDlPazd9JqLXNfMT4m141q8lRQJSVa1xPr2l10ziShU5T+ viiLl43zsRetPjX3pUGbR+/G857T3GtRd+ytdZjACniYYwAfna7ghpfmPfPpeN+e /4PxX0Slv7osY9BHf2qB =s87/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question is valid and interesting, moreover it is asked very kindly. I can't see what possibly might be preventing you to answer the same way. I did answer these questions many times before and in many cases I have later been attacked. The URLs mentioned did point to disinformation from lwn.net that should be easily identifyable as incorrect claims. If such URLs are published without comment, I asume that the questionair believes the incorrect claims from lwn.net. Would you answer people if they make untrue claims (e.g. by giving uncommented pointers to other peoples incorrect articles) before asking? Let me rephrase the original question w/o pointers to any external sources to avoid unintentional offending you: Why do you use a modified CDDL license? What are the advantages of this license over GPL? What do you call a modified CDDL license and why do you believe there is a modified CDDL license? Do you know the history? Do you know that since summer 2004, some people (those people who now stand behind wodim) started to attack the cdrtools project? Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?
| I think it could be the pick-and-mix approach to keywording, I use pure | ~amd64 on my desktop and laptop and the only problems I've had recently | turned out to be a corrupt root filesystem. | | yeah, mixing isn't good. Pure systems are way more stable. Now that's an interesting idea. Makes sense. It sounds like I should either learn to live with stable packages only, or go all out testing. - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
Joerg Schilling ha scritto: The URLs mentioned did point to disinformation from lwn.net that should be easily identifyable as incorrect claims. If such URLs are published without comment, I asume that the questionair believes the incorrect claims from lwn.net. Would you answer people if they make untrue claims (e.g. by giving uncommented pointers to other peoples incorrect articles) before asking? Absolutely yes, I'd answer them even *more eagerly* than to others. What's the point in telling things to people that already know/agree with those things? The best way to get people on understanding your point of view is to honestly explaining facts, instead of seeing menaces, FUD and snakeoil everywhere. There is no conspiracy against you, Joerg. Do you know the history? Do you know that since summer 2004, some people (those people who now stand behind wodim) started to attack the cdrtools project? *Before* or *after* changing license? m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?
On Friday 27 June 2008, Grant wrote: | I think it could be the pick-and-mix approach to keywording, I use | pure ~amd64 on my desktop and laptop and the only problems I've had | recently turned out to be a corrupt root filesystem. | | yeah, mixing isn't good. Pure systems are way more stable. Now that's an interesting idea. Makes sense. It sounds like I should either learn to live with stable packages only, or go all out testing. I used to run ~x86 back when even the stable was . . . aheam unstable. After a few months of regular breakages I decided to go back stable and I have been very happy ever since. However, I am still running a number of applications ~x86, but not of course my system/toolchain and have not experienced any problems. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?
My Gentoo systems get this way for one of two reasons: Some config files get overwritten (make.conf was one time ) by accident and a few packages get installed with the wrong build settings causing random grief system inconsistency, mainly with libraries. revdep-rebuild may or may not help - if not, check all the meta files (`equery check portage`, and then manually check make.conf etc) and do an 'emerge -e world' and go make several (dozen) cups of coffee :) BillK On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 12:41 -0700, Grant wrote: Lately it seems like a new problem pops up every day and every time I try to do something new it doesn't work. Anybody else experiencing that lately? - Grant -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 00:20:50 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote: Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question is valid and interesting, moreover it is asked very kindly. I can't see what possibly might be preventing you to answer the same way. I did answer these questions many times before and in many cases I have later been attacked. The URLs mentioned did point to disinformation from lwn.net that should be easily identifyable as incorrect claims. If such URLs are published without comment, I asume that the questionair believes the incorrect claims from lwn.net. Would you answer people if they make untrue claims (e.g. by giving uncommented pointers to other peoples incorrect articles) before asking? No, this is your assumption. Mine is the opposite - as I see it, the question is very real and the author admitted that he found those URLs using Google which implies he had nothing to do them. ...And yes, I second to b.n. - I'd be explaining my position and I'd be answering every single question if I wanted the people to take my side. Even if the question is asked on purpose, it is better to answer with reason instead of flaming. Why do you use a modified CDDL license? What are the advantages of this license over GPL? What do you call a modified CDDL license and why do you believe there is a modified CDDL license? Answering the question with question? (obviously I can do that too :D) Seriously, eix -v cdrtools gives GPL-2 LGPL-2.1 CDDL-Schily. I assumed you want the package released under your own licence based on the Sun's CDDL. Do you know the history? Do you know that since summer 2004, some people (those people who now stand behind wodim) started to attack the cdrtools project? No, I've never heard about the problem before I saw your posts to this list several months ago, but I really care to see your side of the story. First it would be interesting, second more effective for your cause and third it would hopefully cease your current practice to hijack every optical media related thread on this list and send spam that advertises your product (cdrtools). I mean no offense, but allow me to be blunt. This practice of yours is not only extremely annoying, but it is also very unwise because it backfires - instead of making people understand your problem, now you have a list of annoyed Gentoo fans. The history. Well, I did some searching myself and here's the picture I see from what I managed to find in The Internet. You want to use the CDDL. On the other hand you can't release the whole project under CDDL, because there are parts written by other people who had released their work under GPL before you took the project. So, you dual-licensed the package, releasing the parts you have written by yourself as CDDL and the others w/o changing the license. (How am I doing so far?) Some Debian maintainers saw a problem because CDDL is not compatible with GNU GPL and they made the fork cdrkit. As I understand it the legal problem is when it comes to the binaries produced from your sources because their distribution will violate the GNU GPL. That's why most of the binary distros dropped your packet. On the other hand Gentoo and the other source based distros don't have the same problem, because they don't distribute binaries. All of this made you like Gentoo and hate Debian and especially the those behind the fork. Now, if you have the good will, please, do correct me and tell us your version of the story. -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?
Grant emailgrant at gmail.com writes: Gentoo is rock solid for me, but, I have endured much pain since early 2004. I use many system and only stray from stable when warranted. | yeah, mixing isn't good. Pure systems are way more stable. Well, I do not agree here, with this blanket statement. I mix a small number of testing or even unmasking packages, fix the issues or live with them, and the mostly stable systems are fine. I do try to avoid testing and unmasking packages. If I unmask something and it does not work or is a constant pain, then just get the sources (cvs or svn) and build it like a traditional linux system. This still works on gentoo Yes it take time, but, unless you have time to burn, you should not be straying from stable. (imho). Now that's an interesting idea. Makes sense. It sounds like I should either learn to live with stable packages only, or go all out testing. Some like that approach, but I say use a mostly stable system, unless you need a large amount of testing or unmasked packages YMMV. Also, always keep at least one system on stable only, for your main box, imho hth, James -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
