Re: [gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

2009-02-03 Thread Stroller
On 3 Feb 2009, at 03:39, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: On Tuesday 03 February 2009 06:24:40 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Difficult to find an FPS without violence. Even in Consoles and MS Windows. Why? FPS = First Person *Shooter*. Shooter = guns and kills ;) You're making me wish for a FPS in

Re: [gentoo-user] STAR options have me confused

2009-02-03 Thread Joerg Schilling
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I want to save the backup on a USB drive on /media/sda1. Therefore I ran star as root like this: # cd /dev/sda1 # star -xattr -H=exustar -c -f hda5_root1.star /media/hda5 -C /media/sda1 This is a useless command line as -C /media/sda1 is

Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild for x11-libs/qt-3.3.8-r3 is missing after portage update but required by the system configuration [solved]

2009-02-03 Thread Dimitris Kavadas
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 00:37:51 +0200, Dimitris Kavadas wrote: emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =x11-libs/qt-3.3.8-r3. (dependency required by net-wireless/kdebluetooth-1.0_beta1-r2 [installed]) (dependency required

[gentoo-user] libtool problem

2009-02-03 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, since a short time many (not all) packages fail to build with a message like /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.2/libgomp.la The problem is that I have upgraded to gcc-4.3.3 so there is no path /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.2 anymore. I have rebuilt libtool,

Re: [gentoo-user] libtool problem

2009-02-03 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag, 3. Februar 2009 13:15:55 schrieb Helmut Jarausch: since a short time many (not all) packages fail to build with a message like /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.2/libgomp.la The problem is that I have upgraded to gcc-4.3.3 so there is no path

Re: [gentoo-user] libtool problem

2009-02-03 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 3 Feb, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Dienstag, 3. Februar 2009 13:15:55 schrieb Helmut Jarausch: since a short time many (not all) packages fail to build with a message like /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.2/libgomp.la The problem is that I have upgraded to gcc-4.3.3

Re: [gentoo-user] libtool problem

2009-02-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 03 Februar 2009, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, since a short time many (not all) packages fail to build with a message like /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.2/libgomp.la The problem is that I have upgraded to gcc-4.3.3 so there is no path

[gentoo-user] Re: libtool problem

2009-02-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 3 Feb, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Dienstag, 3. Februar 2009 13:15:55 schrieb Helmut Jarausch: since a short time many (not all) packages fail to build with a message like /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.2/libgomp.la The problem is that I have

Re: [gentoo-user] libtool problem

2009-02-03 Thread Justin
Helmut Jarausch schrieb: On 3 Feb, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Dienstag, 3. Februar 2009 13:15:55 schrieb Helmut Jarausch: since a short time many (not all) packages fail to build with a message like /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.2/libgomp.la The problem is that I

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.2 compile problem

2009-02-03 Thread Arttu V.
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 07:53:22 Dirk Uys wrote: Hi I'm trying to emerge kde-4.2, but the kde-base/systemsettings-4.2.0 ebuild fails: snip/ Have anyone else successfully built kde4.2? Three systems so far, one x86, two amd64. Every single one failed to emerge kde 4.2 cleanly in a

[gentoo-user] Re: Gack... cups docu

2009-02-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes: Harry Putnam wrote: Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes: Anyone else have trouble accessing cups documentation? Here using http://localhost:631 just fails with standard message unable to connect to server at 631. The html stuff under

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome doesn't recognize removable media

2009-02-03 Thread reQuiem23
Hello all, I have solved the problem now. It was due to a missing library issue in HAL. A ln -s /var/lib64/libvolume_id.so.0 /lib64/libvolume_id.so.0 fixed it. Greetings, Niklas reQuiem23 wrote: Hello all, I emerged Gnome 2.24 and am now experiencing problems with removable media. It

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

2009-02-03 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:34:02 +0300 Andrew Gaydenko a...@gaydenko.com wrote: My country isn't included in paypal list, so, I'm going to stick to the portage tree :-) Judging by network/domain whois and your name, I assume you're from the same country as I am, and paypal works perfectly for me

Re: [gentoo-user] libtool problem

2009-02-03 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 3 Feb, Neil Bothwick wrote: Re-emerge gcc-4.3.3 - this was fixed without a revision bump. ^^^ I do love this !!! Many thanks, Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056

[gentoo-user] fcdsl

2009-02-03 Thread ht99
Hi all, I know that there is a bug open at http://bugs.gentoo.org/232511 regarding fcdsl and current kernels 2.6.2*, but please let me ask whether some of you might have figured out how to make fcdsl work with the current kernels. Thanks, Hans -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger

Re: [gentoo-user] libtool problem

2009-02-03 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:03:00 +0100 (CET) Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: I do love this !!! And I hate to re-emerge same gcc every time some minor bug (which I didn't happen to reproduce) is fixed. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] libtool problem

2009-02-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:23:17 +0500, Mike Kazantsev wrote: And I hate to re-emerge same gcc every time some minor bug (which I didn't happen to reproduce) is fixed. IKWYM but I think, on balance, this one would have benefited from a bump as the effects of the breakage were quite widespread. It

[gentoo-user] problem with mail server

2009-02-03 Thread Marcin Niśkiewicz
Hello I'm testing mail server with mysql backend. Generally it works quite well. But from time to time during testing, single mails can't be send because of smtp errors: in mail.log Feb 3 13:47:37 mail postfix/smtpd[28339]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[ip]: 451 4.3.0 u...@domain.org:

Re: [gentoo-user] libtool problem

2009-02-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 13:15:55 +0100 (CET), Helmut Jarausch wrote: since a short time many (not all) packages fail to build with a message like /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.2/libgomp.la The problem is that I have upgraded to gcc-4.3.3 so there is no path

[gentoo-user] Different servers behind the same router

2009-02-03 Thread Momesso Andrea
I have a home server running gentoo for personal use (irc, home entertainment, file server etc.). It is reachable from the internet using a dyamic dns service (dyndns.org). I also have another machine (running gentoo too) that I use as a web server. This machine uses dyndns.org, with a different

Re: [gentoo-user] Different servers behind the same router

2009-02-03 Thread Stroller
On 3 Feb 2009, at 17:43, Momesso Andrea wrote: ... What happens if I decide to switch to the router configuration? If I have a single IP for all the machines in the LAN, when someone from the outside will try to connect to homeserver.foo or to webserver.bar, will they be routed to the

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.2 compile problem

2009-02-03 Thread Jerry McBride
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 12:53:22 am Dirk Uys wrote: Hi I'm trying to emerge kde-4.2, but the kde-base/systemsettings-4.2.0 ebuild fails: Scanning dependencies of target kdeinit_kxkb [ 23%] Building CXX object kcontrol/kxkb/CMakeFiles/kdeinit_kxkb.dir/kdeinit_kxkb_automoc.o [ 24%]

[gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

2009-02-03 Thread James
Andrew Gaydenko a at gaydenko.com writes: Has ~amd64 portage such games for my 7 years old son? BZflag.org is very cool 3D tank game, where you play others across the net. No blood and cursing by players get's you booted. My kids all love it! hth, James

Re: [gentoo-user] Different servers behind the same router

2009-02-03 Thread Saphirus Sage
On Feb 3, 2009, at 12:43 PM, Momesso Andrea momesso.and...@gmail.com wrote: I have a home server running gentoo for personal use (irc, home entertainment, file server etc.). It is reachable from the internet using a dyamic dns service (dyndns.org). I also have another machine (running

Re: [gentoo-user] Different servers behind the same router

2009-02-03 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 01:47:00PM -0500, Saphirus Sage wrote: On Feb 3, 2009, at 12:43 PM, Momesso Andrea momesso.and...@gmail.com wrote: I have a home server running gentoo for personal use (irc, home entertainment, file server etc.). It is reachable from the internet using a dyamic

Re: [gentoo-user] Different servers behind the same router

2009-02-03 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 05:52:13PM +, Stroller wrote: On 3 Feb 2009, at 17:43, Momesso Andrea wrote: ... What happens if I decide to switch to the router configuration? If I have a single IP for all the machines in the LAN, when someone from the outside will try to connect to

[gentoo-user] 'emerge -avDuN world' doesn't find everything

2009-02-03 Thread Grant
I do a daily 'emerge -avDuN world' to keep everything up to date, but I've noticed it doesn't always find everything. As an example: # emerge -avDuN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB Nothing

[gentoo-user] EHCI/OHCI and USB 1.1 Support

2009-02-03 Thread AJ Spagnoletti
In a recent upgrade to my laptop EHCI supported was added to my kernel, I thought that this would be a good thing because I have a USB 2.0 external harddrive that I connect to my laptop for additional storage and media. I also use a Logitech Quickcam Deluxe for Notebooks which is a USB 1.1 device

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: games-fps without blood

2009-02-03 Thread pk
Andrew Gaydenko wrote: Ups.. He-he... :-) I have thought it is frame per second - is related to 3D reality reconstruction, where GL, *fps* and such are needed, used, told about. Fine! Probably there are not-FPS :-) beauty (rich 3D) games for little boy, are not they? Well, if you can

Re: [gentoo-user] DVD RW (recommendations

2009-02-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:04:37 + (UTC), James wrote: Any cheap DVD rw that have success writing to the many forms of rw DVDS, that one would recommend? I have an Optimax SATA DVD-RW/DVD+RW/DVD-RAM drive that cost about £18 a year ago. -- Neil Bothwick Nymphomania-- an illness you hear

Re: [gentoo-user] DVD RW (recommendations

2009-02-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:04 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello SATA or Eide on DVD rw choices (internal unit). Any cheap DVD rw that have success writing to the many forms of rw DVDS, that one would recommend? Any bands (plextor?) to avoid on gentoo? I think they should

Re: [gentoo-user] 'emerge -avDuN world' doesn't find everything

2009-02-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:29:01 -0800, Grant wrote: Is portage supposed to pick up on this with 'emerge -avDuN world'? Not if these are build-time dependencies, in which case they'll only be picked up when you use --with-bdeps y. This is becoming a VFAQ. -- Neil Bothwick If weather bureaus

[gentoo-user] DVD RW (recommendations

2009-02-03 Thread James
Hello SATA or Eide on DVD rw choices (internal unit). Any cheap DVD rw that have success writing to the many forms of rw DVDS, that one would recommend? Any bands (plextor?) to avoid on gentoo? James

Re: [gentoo-user] 'emerge -avDuN world' doesn't find everything

2009-02-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:29:01 -0800, Grant wrote: Is portage supposed to pick up on this with 'emerge -avDuN world'? Not if these are build-time dependencies, in which case they'll only be picked up when you use

Re: [gentoo-user] 'emerge -avDuN world' doesn't find everything

2009-02-03 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:29:01 -0800, Grant wrote: Is portage supposed to pick up on this with 'emerge -avDuN world'? Not if these are build-time dependencies, in which case they'll only be picked up when you use

Re: [gentoo-user] 'emerge -avDuN world' doesn't find everything

2009-02-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:29:01 -0800, Grant wrote: Is portage supposed to pick up on this with 'emerge -avDuN world'? Not if these are build-time

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.2 compile problem

2009-02-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 06:53:22 Dirk Uys wrote: Hi I'm trying to emerge kde-4.2, but the kde-base/systemsettings-4.2.0 ebuild fails: snipped I have the latest version of libXi (1.2.0). I tried searching the net, but the only answer I got was that some guy on the kde forums had the

Re: [gentoo-user] games-fps without blood

2009-02-03 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 00:26:19 Andrew Gaydenko wrote: Has ~amd64 portage such games for my 7 years old son? Have a look at worldofpadman, not seen any blood in there :) You fight with paintguns and such like and it all looks cartoony. http://worldofpadman.com/ -- Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] DVD RW (recommendations

2009-02-03 Thread Joerg Schilling
James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: SATA or Eide on DVD rw choices (internal unit). Does Linux support ATAPI for your SATA interface? Any cheap DVD rw that have success writing to the many forms of rw DVDS, that one would recommend? Any bands (plextor?) to avoid on gentoo? How abot

Re: [gentoo-user] DVD RW (recommendations

2009-02-03 Thread Yannick Mortier
2009/2/3 James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com: Hello SATA or Eide on DVD rw choices (internal unit). Any cheap DVD rw that have success writing to the many forms of rw DVDS, that one would recommend? Any bands (plextor?) to avoid on gentoo? James Hi James! I use LG burners for every

[gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread Grant Edwards
Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system similar to BSD ports where you build packages from source. The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get better performance because all executables are optimized for exactly the right instruction set. Where did that bit

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread Norberto Bensa
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: AFAICT, the performance benefit due to compiler optimization is practically nil in real-world usage. It used to make a difference, but not anymore with today microprocessors. In my experience the huge benefit of

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread Saphirus Sage
Grant Edwards wrote: Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system similar to BSD ports where you build packages from source. The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get better performance because all executables are optimized for exactly the right instruction

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread Yannick Mortier
2009/2/3 Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com: Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system similar to BSD ports where you build packages from source. The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get better performance because all executables are optimized for exactly the

Re: [gentoo-user] 'emerge -avDuN world' doesn't find everything

2009-02-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: When this was asked a few weeks ago someone then asked why --with-bdeps Y isn't the default? This seems to burn nearly everyone once in awhile. Because using --with-bdeps y causes unnecessary compilation of packages that don't

Re: [gentoo-user] 'emerge -avDuN world' doesn't find everything

2009-02-03 Thread Dale
Grant wrote: When this was asked a few weeks ago someone then asked why --with-bdeps Y isn't the default? This seems to burn nearly everyone once in awhile. Because using --with-bdeps y causes unnecessary compilation of packages that don't need t0 be changed. They won't be used again

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread Constantine D. Kardaris
It is not just about higher performance. The same way you can have higher performance, the same way you can use less flags and less optimizations for a solid/stable system. You are just not bounded (most of the times) to fixed choices others doing for you.

Re: [gentoo-user] 'emerge -avDuN world' doesn't find everything

2009-02-03 Thread Grant
When this was asked a few weeks ago someone then asked why --with-bdeps Y isn't the default? This seems to burn nearly everyone once in awhile. Because using --with-bdeps y causes unnecessary compilation of packages that don't need t0 be changed. They won't be used again until the dependent

[gentoo-user] Re: DVD RW (recommendations

2009-02-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
James wrote: Hello SATA or Eide on DVD rw choices (internal unit). Any cheap DVD rw that have success writing to the many forms of rw DVDS, that one would recommend? Any bands (plextor?) to avoid on gentoo? Instead of recommending what I have, I'll recommend what disc burning lunatics

[gentoo-user] Re: Different servers behind the same router

2009-02-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Momesso Andrea wrote: On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 05:52:13PM +, Stroller wrote: On 3 Feb 2009, at 17:43, Momesso Andrea wrote: ... What happens if I decide to switch to the router configuration? If I have a single IP for all the machines in the LAN, when someone from the outside will try to

Re: [gentoo-user] 'emerge -avDuN world' doesn't find everything

2009-02-03 Thread Grant
When this was asked a few weeks ago someone then asked why --with-bdeps Y isn't the default? This seems to burn nearly everyone once in awhile. Because using --with-bdeps y causes unnecessary compilation of packages that don't need t0 be changed. They won't be used again until the dependent

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Grant Edwards wrote: Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system similar to BSD ports where you build packages from source. The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get better performance because all executables are optimized for exactly the right instruction

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system similar to BSD ports where you build packages from source. The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get better performance because all executables

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DVD RW (recommendations

2009-02-03 Thread Hung Dang
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: James wrote: Hello SATA or Eide on DVD rw choices (internal unit). Any cheap DVD rw that have success writing to the many forms of rw DVDS, that one would recommend? Any bands (plextor?) to avoid on gentoo? Instead of recommending what I have, I'll recommend

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: pidgin build error

2009-02-03 Thread Arnau Bria
Hi had to rebuild all perl related packages as they were compiled with 486 CHOST (not sure how it happenend, maybe wrong stage?¿?) I found packages: equery belongs /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i486-linux/ HTH to otehr with same problem... but maybe is better to check wiki for doc how to change CHOST

Re: [gentoo-user] 'emerge -avDuN world' doesn't find everything

2009-02-03 Thread Grant
When this was asked a few weeks ago someone then asked why --with-bdeps Y isn't the default? This seems to burn nearly everyone once in awhile. Because using --with-bdeps y causes unnecessary compilation of packages that don't need t0 be changed. They won't be used again until the dependent

Re: [gentoo-user] Different servers behind the same router

2009-02-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:52:13 +, Stroller wrote: No, they will all reach the router's IP address. It will have an option for port forwarding so that you can forward port 80 to the webserver and ports 25 110 to the mail server. If you have two webservers behind the router then you

Re: [gentoo-user] Locking down a wireless network

2009-02-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: My Gentoo router's wireless network is encrypted via WPA and doesn't DHCP. I'd like to take this a step further in case my WPA key gets hacked. Can I issue only certain IPs to certain MAC addresses? Does WPA2 require

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread Grant
Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system similar to BSD ports where you build packages from source. The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get better performance because all executables are optimized for exactly the right instruction set. More often than

Re: [gentoo-user] 'emerge -avDuN world' doesn't find everything

2009-02-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Grant wrote: When this was asked a few weeks ago someone then asked why --with-bdeps Y isn't the default? This seems to burn nearly everyone once in awhile. Because using --with-bdeps y causes unnecessary compilation of

Re: [gentoo-user] problem with mail server

2009-02-03 Thread kashani
Marcin Nis'kiewicz wrote: Hello I'm testing mail server with mysql backend. Generally it works quite well. But from time to time during testing, single mails can't be send because of smtp errors: in mail.log Feb 3 13:47:37 mail postfix/smtpd[28339]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[ip]:

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 03 Februar 2009, Grant Edwards wrote: Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system similar to BSD ports where you build packages from source. The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get better performance because all executables are optimized for

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread Dale
Saphirus Sage wrote: Grant Edwards wrote: Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system similar to BSD ports where you build packages from source. The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get better performance because all executables are optimized for

Re: [gentoo-user] 'emerge -avDuN world' doesn't find everything

2009-02-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:32:15 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: When this was asked a few weeks ago someone then asked why --with-bdeps Y isn't the default? This seems to burn nearly everyone once in awhile. Because using --with-bdeps y causes unnecessary compilation of packages that don't need t0 be

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread kashani
Grant Edwards wrote: Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system similar to BSD ports where you build packages from source. The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get better performance because all executables are optimized for exactly the right instruction

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Different servers behind the same router

2009-02-03 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:36:55 +0200 Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: Since your ISP offers you the option to have two different IP, yes that the best choice. Over here I would have to pay quite some money to get an extra IP. So you're lucky I guess. There is plenty of address space

[gentoo-user] Re: Different servers behind the same router

2009-02-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Mike Kazantsev wrote: On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:36:55 +0200 Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: Since your ISP offers you the option to have two different IP, yes that the best choice. Over here I would have to pay quite some money to get an extra IP. So you're lucky I guess. There is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Different servers behind the same router

2009-02-03 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 03:21:17 +0200 Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: There is plenty of address space on IPv6. One can set up a tunnel, if ISP doesn't provide it yet. After that, it's as simple as enabling forwarding in kernel and opening a FORWARD chain, and you can have 64+ bits

[gentoo-user] Re: Different servers behind the same router

2009-02-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Mike Kazantsev wrote: On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 03:21:17 +0200 Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: I can't say I understood what you said, but the majority of ISPs give clients v4 IPs? Mine for example right now (it's dynamic) is 79.123.149.101. That's the only way to reach me from WAN. Not

[gentoo-user] Re: libtool problem

2009-02-03 Thread ABCD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Neil Bothwick wrote: Mike Kazantsev wrote: And I hate to re-emerge same gcc every time some minor bug (which I didn't happen to reproduce) is fixed. IKWYM but I think, on balance, this one would have benefited from a bump as the effects of

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread James
Grant Edwards grante at visi.com writes: Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system similar to BSD ports where you build packages from source. The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get better performance because all executables are optimized for exactly

[gentoo-user] Re: DVD RW (recommendations

2009-02-03 Thread james
Hung Dang hungptit at gmail.com writes: Thanks for all of the input! I got plenty of good information, to make several purchases. Googling, I did read about some problems with the latest drives from plextor, (not verified by me though). ciao, James

Re: [gentoo-user] 'emerge -avDuN world' doesn't find everything

2009-02-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: When this was asked a few weeks ago someone then asked why --with-bdeps Y isn't the default? This seems to burn nearly everyone once in awhile. Because using --with-bdeps y causes unnecessary compilation of packages that don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Different servers behind the same router

2009-02-03 Thread Stroller
On 3 Feb 2009, at 18:35, Momesso Andrea wrote: On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 05:52:13PM +, Stroller wrote: On 3 Feb 2009, at 17:43, Momesso Andrea wrote: ... What happens if I decide to switch to the router configuration? If I have a single IP for all the machines in the LAN, when someone

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-02-04, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Grant Edwards grante at visi.com writes: Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's described as a system similar to BSD ports where you build packages from source. The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get better

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.2 compile problem

2009-02-03 Thread Dirk Uys
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:34 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: Today succesfully installed kde4.2 on amd64. I first removed my old KDE completely and then installed it on a clean system. Only reinstalling the old kde libs for programs that have not yet been ported to kde4.2. Not

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.2 compile problem

2009-02-03 Thread Christopher Walters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Dirk Uys wrote: Hi Have anyone else successfully built kde4.2? Regards Dirk Hi Dirk, I was able to compile KDE 4.2 successfully with no problems, without using anything outside of Portage. What arch are you using? Did you use the new,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 04 February 2009 01:48:34 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: So all in all, I agree.  Using Gentoo is nowadays not so much a matter of performance optimization but of better control of how to build the packages and the rolling release nature (I'm tired of major updates every 6 months in the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread Christopher Walters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 04 February 2009 01:48:34 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: So all in all, I agree. Using Gentoo is nowadays not so much a matter of performance optimization but of better control of how to build the snip I also get

[gentoo-user] hal - what's the benefit of using it

2009-02-03 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, having had some problems with recent xorg version my question is what are the benefits (if any) of building packages with the 'hal' use flag (i.e. adding 'hal' to US='...' in /etc/make.conf) Many thanks for your sharing your experience, Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?

2009-02-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 04 February 2009 09:27:31 Christopher Walters wrote: I will mention that the performance optimizations for Gentoo mainly lie in the kernel configuration (the binary distributions compile just about everything you can imagine into their kernels), and in fine tuning the USE flags,

Re: [gentoo-user] hal - what's the benefit of using it

2009-02-03 Thread Dirk Uys
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