[gentoo-user] [OT] Off site storage solution

2009-09-08 Thread Momesso Andrea

This is very OT, but maybe I can finde some suggestions here.

I've got a gentoo server running on a VPS from linode
http://www.linode.com/ . I'm using the basic plan (linode 360) and I'm
happy with that.
The plan gives me 16gb storage that is enough for the webserver to work
and to store a lot user documents (PDF mostly) in the site.

Now an user asked me to store online his bibliography that it's about 
96gb and growing.

A realtively cheap solution would be to store at home his documents
(well protected and backupped), on a dedicated nas. The matter is that
my isp doesn't give me a lot of upload bandiwidth (while I can download
more than 1mb/s I can't upload more than 50k/s). This might become kinda
annoying if the user is on the other side of the world and wants to show
to a collegue a 190mb pdf.

I could also upgrade my linode to a linode 2880, that would give me
enough space (128GB instead of 16) but will also cost me much more
($159.95 per month instaed of $19.95). This is due to the fact that they
will also increase my ram and data transfer (that I don't need).

Is anyone aware of a off site storage solution that could satisfay my
needs?

Thank you in advance and sorry for the OT

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[gentoo-user] Luks: Which cipher to use

2009-09-08 Thread Marco
Hi all,

I am about to encrypt my external hard drive. I found the howtos
http://de.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/DM-Crypt and
http://de.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/DM-Crypt/Daten-Partition_verschl%C3%BCsseln
(sorry, German...). They give a good understanding of how to do the
stuff, but I am unsure about which cipher to use. LRW is considered
insecure in some cases so thus it should be replaced by XTS which is
experimental though... Furthermore, if using XTS is used, there is
different options like xts-plain, xts-benbi, xts-essiv:sha256. Which
option is preferable? What about the key size? Is there any relation
between key size and block size of the file system in terms of data
security?

Thanks for your tips and suggestions!

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 Marco



[gentoo-user] emerge --update Question

2009-09-08 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi,

running (with portage 2.2_rc40)
emerge --keep-going -j4 -1 --ask --update --deep @system @world 

it fails to upgrade e.g. kde-base/thumbnailers

eix -e kde-base/thumbnailers shows that 
   4.3.0 is installed and 4.3.1 is available
   (I have ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64 in /etc/make.conf)

What's going on - please explain.

Thanks,
Helmut.


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Off site storage solution

2009-09-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 11:12:27 +0200, Momesso Andrea wrote:

 Is anyone aware of a off site storage solution that could satisfay my
 needs?

Amazon's S3 service has proved reliable and economical for me.



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[gentoo-user] Re: emerge --update Question

2009-09-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 09/08/2009 01:45 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote:

Hi,

running (with portage 2.2_rc40)
emerge --keep-going -j4 -1 --ask --update --deep @system @world

it fails to upgrade e.g. kde-base/thumbnailers

eix -e kde-base/thumbnailers shows that
4.3.0 is installed and 4.3.1 is available
(I have ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64 in /etc/make.conf)

What's going on - please explain.


Well, please first explain why it doesn't update.  It *must* print some 
sort of error message (or else how would you know that it doesn't update?)





Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update Question

2009-09-08 Thread Dale
Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 Hi,

 running (with portage 2.2_rc40)
 emerge --keep-going -j4 -1 --ask --update --deep @system @world 

 it fails to upgrade e.g. kde-base/thumbnailers

 eix -e kde-base/thumbnailers shows that 
4.3.0 is installed and 4.3.1 is available
(I have ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64 in /etc/make.conf)

 What's going on - please explain.

 Thanks,
 Helmut.


   

You may need to provide the actual output.  Just a thought, do you have
it masked locally for some reason?  I have KDE 4.3 installed here and
that package is up to date here. 

I'm on x86 which may make a difference as well. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge --update Question

2009-09-08 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On  8 Sep, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
 On 09/08/2009 01:45 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 Hi,

 running (with portage 2.2_rc40)
 emerge --keep-going -j4 -1 --ask --update --deep @system @world

 it fails to upgrade e.g. kde-base/thumbnailers

 eix -e kde-base/thumbnailers shows that
 4.3.0 is installed and 4.3.1 is available
 (I have ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64 in /etc/make.conf)

 What's going on - please explain.
 
 Well, please first explain why it doesn't update.  It *must* print some 
 sort of error message (or else how would you know that it doesn't update?)
 

I don't know if it would update, but it doesn't show so with the --ask
option. Here is my output

emerge --keep-going -j4 -1k --ask --update --deep @system @world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies \ * A file is not listed in the Manifest: 
'/LOCAL/local/portage/layman/java-overlay/dev-java/eclipse-ecj/eclipse-ecj-3.4.1.ebuild'
 |
Invalid ebuild name: 
/LOCAL/local/portage/sys-fs/ntfs3g/ntfs3g-2009.4.4AC.11.ebuild
 \ * Missing digest for '/LOCAL/local/portage/dev-python/gmpy/gmpy-1.04.ebuild'
 | * Missing digest for 
'/LOCAL/local/portage/layman/java-overlay/dev-java/eclipse-ecj/eclipse-ecj-3.4.1.ebuild'
 | * Missing digest for 
'/LOCAL/local/portage/layman/java-overlay/dev-java/eclipse-ecj/eclipse-ecj-3.3.0-r7.ebuild'
... done!
[ebuild U ] dev-db/mysql-5.0.84-r1 [5.0.83]
[ebuild U ] sys-fs/aufs2- [0_p20090504] USE=-inotify% -kernel-patch% 
-ramfs% 

!!! The following installed packages are masked:
- media-libs/realcodecs-11.0.1.1056-r1 (masked by: package.mask)
/usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
# Steve Dibb bean...@gentoo.org (5 Nov 2008)
# Mask realplayer codecs for security bug 245662
# http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-713051.html

- app-benchmarks/phoronix-test-suite-1.8.0 (masked by: package.mask)
/usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
# Doug Goldstein car...@gentoo.org (19 Apr 2009)
# developing ebuild for phoronix-test-suite

For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.


Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] No


Thanks for your help.

And to Dale,

it's no problem to install KDE-4.3.1 on my hardware (I've done so on a
different machine from scratch). It's just that emerge --update doesn't
like to update.




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D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Making sure I am a good netizen and secure.

2009-09-08 Thread Willie Wong
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 03:27:56PM +, Penguin Lover James squawked:
 Willie Wong wwong at math.princeton.edu writes:
 
 
  On my setup, I just block almost everything (except ssh) by default
  and maintain a white-list of IPs. 
 
 
 Can you share with us how you white-list IPs via your
 iptables setup? That is your code you add to your startup
 script and your iptables syntax on those white/black listed
 IPs?

Hum? the init script for iptables automatically saves and loads the
policy, at least with SAVE_ON_STOP=yes in /etc/conf.d/iptables, so I
don't have any special configs in any start-up scripts. 

I built my tables using the commandline. A good quick intro guide is
at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml , section 5. 

The static part of the table looks something like this

Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination 
ACCEPT all  --  192.168.0.0/16   anywhere
ACCEPT all  --  localhostanywhere
general_port_block  all  --  anywhere anywhere
ssh_blacklist  all  --  anywhere anywhere

Chain general_port_block (1 references)
target prot opt source   destination 
DROP   tcp  --  anywhere anywheretcp dpt:ftp 
DROP   tcp  --  anywhere anywheretcp dpt:urd 
DROP   tcp  --  anywhere anywheretcp dpt:smtp 
DROP   tcp  --  anywhere anywheretcp dpt:http 
DROP   tcp  --  anywhere anywheretcp dpt:http-alt 
DROP   tcp  --  anywhere anywheretcp dpt:https 
DROP   tcp  --  anywhere anywheretcp dpt:783 
DROP   tcp  --  anywhere anywheretcp dpt:ipp 

If you know iptables at all, you can probably figure out what I did to
set it up(*). The 'general_port_block' chain is to just make things
tidier. So you see, I set the default policy to allow connections. I
whitelist first the LAN and localhost. Then I filter everything
through the two chains. The general_port_block chain is static, and
it blocks a bunch of services, some of which I run (but which I only
want my family to access from the LAN), some I don't. 

As you can see, I don't block ssh, because I sometimes travel a bit.
So instead, I have a separate chian that helps a bit in slowing down
brute force attacks. 

The ssh_blacklist chain is dynamically generated via a perl script.
The script monitors the ssh logs and blocks IPs for a certain period
of time after either an attempt to log-in as root, or five failed
log-in attempts. (I have locked myself out once or twice from a hotel
when I accidentaly hit the capslock...) Basically you just add a
target to be blocked to the iptables and use atd to remove it some
time later. 

(*)If you don't know iptables, man iptables. 

 What do you use to maintain these white/black lists of IPs,
 tools and philosophy.?

My philosophy is common sense. I white list those ips that I want to
be able to access the services. I black list those I don't. For
services like ssh, I pray that my efforts are secure enough. 

HTH, 

W
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Massimiliano Ziccardi
I have exactly the same problem:

I tried everything (well, everything I'm aware of :-) ) but I always get:

[blocks B ] net-wireless/bluez (net-wireless/bluez is blocking
net-wireless/bluez-libs-3.36)
[blocks B ] net-wireless/bluez-libs (net-wireless/bluez-libs is
blocking net-wireless/bluez-4.39-r1)


Any idea?

Thanks,
Massimiliano


[gentoo-user] autossh

2009-09-08 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
Hi

I am having issue with autossh host, I get

autossh[13221]: checking for grace period, tries = 0
autossh[13221]: starting ssh (count 1)
autossh[13221]: ssh child pid is 13224
autossh[13221]: check on child 13224
autossh[13221]: set alarm for 600 secs
autossh[13224]: execing /usr/bin/ssh

My Autossh setting in my .bashrc are as  below

export AUTOSSH_GATETIME=0
export AUTOSSH_POLL=100
export AUTOSSH_PORT=20020
export AUTOSSH_DEBUG=1

When i test by disconnecting and reconnecting the internet, It takes
10mins to prompt for a password. Can this time interval be reduced ?

Thanks and Regards,

Kaushal



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Chao-Rui Chang
Hello,

just remove any bluez 3.x , such as bluez-libs
the problem will be solved.

Best regards,
Gentoo


2009/9/8 Massimiliano Ziccardi massimiliano.zicca...@gmail.com

 I have exactly the same problem:

 I tried everything (well, everything I'm aware of :-) ) but I always get:

 [blocks B ] net-wireless/bluez (net-wireless/bluez is blocking
 net-wireless/bluez-libs-3.36)
 [blocks B ] net-wireless/bluez-libs (net-wireless/bluez-libs is
 blocking net-wireless/bluez-4.39-r1)


 Any idea?

 Thanks,
 Massimiliano



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Off site storage solution

2009-09-08 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 11:47:11AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 11:12:27 +0200, Momesso Andrea wrote:
 
  Is anyone aware of a off site storage solution that could satisfay my
  needs?
 
 Amazon's S3 service has proved reliable and economical for me.
 

Looks very interesting...

Does it also provide a way to mount it as a filesystem (for example via
nfs), so that it becomes transparently part of my server?

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Massimiliano Ziccardi
Already done

localhost ~ # emerge --search bluez | egrep bluez|installed | egrep -v
Homepage|Description
[ Results for search key : bluez ]
*  dev-python/pybluez
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
*  net-wireless/bluez
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
*  net-wireless/bluez-bluefw
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
*  net-wireless/bluez-firmware
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
*  net-wireless/bluez-gnome
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
*  net-wireless/bluez-hcidump
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
*  net-wireless/bluez-hciemu
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
*  net-wireless/bluez-libs
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
*  net-wireless/bluez-utils
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
*  sec-policy/selinux-bluez
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
*  x11-plugins/gkrellm-bluez [ Masked ]
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]


So I guess I don't have bluez anymore

Any other idea?

Thanks.
Massimiliano


Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:27:41 +0200, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:

 So I guess I don't have bluez anymore
 
 Any other idea?

Tell what command you are running.
Add the --tree option to emerge
Post the output.


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Off site storage solution

2009-09-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:13:42 +0200, Momesso Andrea wrote:

  Amazon's S3 service has proved reliable and economical for me.

 Looks very interesting...
 
 Does it also provide a way to mount it as a filesystem (for example via
 nfs), so that it becomes transparently part of my server?

There's a fuse module to mount it as a filesystem, or you can access it
with DAV IIRC.


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Dienstag, 8. September 2009 schrieb Massimiliano Ziccardi:
 Already done

 localhost ~ # emerge --search bluez | egrep bluez|installed | egrep -v
 Homepage|Description
 [ Results for search key : bluez ]
 *  dev-python/pybluez
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
 *  net-wireless/bluez
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
 *  net-wireless/bluez-bluefw
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
 *  net-wireless/bluez-firmware
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
 *  net-wireless/bluez-gnome
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
 *  net-wireless/bluez-hcidump
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
 *  net-wireless/bluez-hciemu
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
 *  net-wireless/bluez-libs
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
 *  net-wireless/bluez-utils
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
 *  sec-policy/selinux-bluez
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
 *  x11-plugins/gkrellm-bluez [ Masked ]
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]


 So I guess I don't have bluez anymore

 Any other idea?

You have some thing installed that needs bluez-3. So if you do --update world, 
both bluez versions are pulled in, and then they block each other. The 
solution is to remove the need for both of them, either by removing the 
package that needs bluez-3 or by removing its dependency on bluez by settings 
its use flags to bluetooth.

$ equery d bluez
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Dienstag, 8. September 2009 schrieb Frank Steinmetzger:

 You have some thing installed that needs bluez-3. So if you do --update
 world, both bluez versions are pulled in, and then they block each other.
 The solution is to remove the need for both of them, either by removing the
 package that needs bluez-3 or by removing its dependency on bluez by
 settings its use flags to bluetooth.
^
I meant -bluetooth of course.
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Massimiliano Ziccardi
equery d bluez did not return anything...

localhost ~ # equery d bluez
[ Searching for packages depending on bluez... ]
localhost ~ #

Any other idea?

Thank you!!


Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
 The command is :
 
 emerge -uD --tree world
 
 The output is in the attached file
 
 
 Thanks you all!
 

nice wicd really pulls in a lot of crap. Or to me more accurate gksu pulls in 
a lot of crap. Nautilus? Just to ask for the root pw?

That is really, really bad.



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
 equery d bluez did not return anything...
 
 localhost ~ # equery d bluez
 [ Searching for packages depending on bluez... ]
 localhost ~ #
 
 Any other idea?
 
 Thank you!!
 

yes, get rid of wicd and its dependencies.



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Off site storage solution

2009-09-08 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 12:42:58PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:13:42 +0200, Momesso Andrea wrote:
 
   Amazon's S3 service has proved reliable and economical for me.
 
  Looks very interesting...
  
  Does it also provide a way to mount it as a filesystem (for example via
  nfs), so that it becomes transparently part of my server?
 
 There's a fuse module to mount it as a filesystem, or you can access it
 with DAV IIRC.
 

Sounds interesting, thanks for the info!

I might provide the user both a physical storage (at my place) and the
amazon s3.

This way the user will be able to use the local one for 90% of his
needs, integrated in the web interface he alredy knows and uses everyday
(or maybe a knowledgtree installation would be even better), and a link
for fast downloads, near every file that will connect directly to the
amazon server.

If I set up a script to keep in sync my local storage and the amazon
one, the user will be able to reduce the costs (only download from
amazon when really needed), and will not have to bother learning a new
interface.

Thank you again!

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:14:27 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
  equery d bluez did not return anything...
 
  localhost ~ # equery d bluez
  [ Searching for packages depending on bluez... ]
  localhost ~ #
 
  Any other idea?
 
  Thank you!!
 
 yes, get rid of wicd and its dependencies.

No, he doesn't need to do that. gksu is one of three options:

RDEPEND=

|| ( x11-misc/ktsuss x11-libs/gksu kde-base/kdesu )

So he probably wants to do this:

emerge -av1 kdesu
emerge -avuND world

This works. I know it works. I have wicd and I do not have gksu and emerge 
doesn't feel inclined to tell me to get gksu.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:14:27 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
   equery d bluez did not return anything...
  
   localhost ~ # equery d bluez
   [ Searching for packages depending on bluez... ]
   localhost ~ #
  
   Any other idea?
  
   Thank you!!
 
  yes, get rid of wicd and its dependencies.
 
 No, he doesn't need to do that. gksu is one of three options:
 
 RDEPEND=
 
 || ( x11-misc/ktsuss x11-libs/gksu kde-base/kdesu )
 
 So he probably wants to do this:
 
 emerge -av1 kdesu
 emerge -avuND world
 
 This works. I know it works. I have wicd and I do not have gksu and emerge
 doesn't feel inclined to tell me to get gksu.
 

the problem is that gksu is already installed. He has to remove that and all 
its deps or emerge will always try to pull in bluez-libs.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge --update Question

2009-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 12:58:35 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 On  8 Sep, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
  On 09/08/2009 01:45 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
  Hi,
 
  running (with portage 2.2_rc40)
  emerge --keep-going -j4 -1 --ask --update --deep @system @world
 
  it fails to upgrade e.g. kde-base/thumbnailers
 
  eix -e kde-base/thumbnailers shows that
  4.3.0 is installed and 4.3.1 is available
  (I have ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64 in /etc/make.conf)
 
  What's going on - please explain.
 
  Well, please first explain why it doesn't update.  It *must* print some
  sort of error message (or else how would you know that it doesn't
  update?)
 
 I don't know if it would update, but it doesn't show so with the --ask
 option. Here is my output
 
 emerge --keep-going -j4 -1k --ask --update --deep @system @world
 
 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

$ grep -r thumbnailers /var/portage/kde-base/*
/var/portage/kde-base/kdegraphics-meta/kdegraphics-meta-4.3.0.ebuild:   =kde-
base/thumbnailers-${PV}:${SLOT}[kdeprefix=]
/var/portage/kde-base/kdegraphics-meta/kdegraphics-meta-4.3.1.ebuild:   =kde-
base/thumbnailers-${PV}:${SLOT}[kdeprefix=]


So I'll bet that you have kdegraphics-meta-4.3.0 in world which won't pull in 
thumbnailers.

To verify: grep kde /var/lib/portage/world

And, you did check the contents of package.keywords and package.mask, right?

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:56:35 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:14:27 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
   On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
equery d bluez did not return anything...
   
localhost ~ # equery d bluez
[ Searching for packages depending on bluez... ]
localhost ~ #
   
Any other idea?
   
Thank you!!
  
   yes, get rid of wicd and its dependencies.
 
  No, he doesn't need to do that. gksu is one of three options:
 
  RDEPEND=
 
  || ( x11-misc/ktsuss x11-libs/gksu kde-base/kdesu )
 
  So he probably wants to do this:
 
  emerge -av1 kdesu
  emerge -avuND world
 
  This works. I know it works. I have wicd and I do not have gksu and
  emerge doesn't feel inclined to tell me to get gksu.
 
 the problem is that gksu is already installed. He has to remove that and
  all its deps or emerge will always try to pull in bluez-libs.

So why are you telling him to get rid of wicd?

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Dienstag, 8. September 2009 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:
 On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
  The command is :
 
  emerge -uD --tree world
 
  The output is in the attached file
 
 
  Thanks you all!

 nice wicd really pulls in a lot of crap. Or to me more accurate gksu pulls
 in a lot of crap. Nautilus? Just to ask for the root pw?

 That is really, really bad.

Hm.. I’m slightly puzzled. Wicd needs one of kdesu, gksu or ktsuss. But since 
it’s already installed (nomerge in the emerge output), this condition is 
already fulfilled. So one other solution would be to deinstall wicd, install 
kde so kdesu gets installed and then remerge wicd. Then it finds kdesu and 
won't ask for gksu and nautilus in the process. Besides, the dependency 
nautilus can be removed by using -gnome.
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:56:35 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
   On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:14:27 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
 equery d bluez did not return anything...

 localhost ~ # equery d bluez
 [ Searching for packages depending on bluez... ]
 localhost ~ #

 Any other idea?

 Thank you!!
   
yes, get rid of wicd and its dependencies.
  
   No, he doesn't need to do that. gksu is one of three options:
  
   RDEPEND=
  
   || ( x11-misc/ktsuss x11-libs/gksu kde-base/kdesu )
  
   So he probably wants to do this:
  
   emerge -av1 kdesu
   emerge -avuND world
  
   This works. I know it works. I have wicd and I do not have gksu and
   emerge doesn't feel inclined to tell me to get gksu.
 
  the problem is that gksu is already installed. He has to remove that and
   all its deps or emerge will always try to pull in bluez-libs.
 
 So why are you telling him to get rid of wicd?
 

because wicd was/is pulling in gksu on his system, which is pulling in 
nautilus, which is pulling in a lot of other stuff.



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Massimiliano Ziccardi
Thank you people!!

I'm trying Alan's tip. I'll let you know when I'll finish : it must perform
26 compilations :-( )

Just one question : how did you notice the problem was kdesu? I didn't see
any
dependency from bluez...

Thanks,
Massimiliano


Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
 Thank you people!!
 
 I'm trying Alan's tip. I'll let you know when I'll finish : it must perform
 26 compilations :-( )
 
 Just one question : how did you notice the problem was kdesu? I didn't see
 any
 dependency from bluez...
 
 Thanks,
 Massimiliano
 

kdesu is not the problem gksu is. Entirely different app.



Re: [gentoo-user] cannot d/l dmg2img ebuild

2009-09-08 Thread Xi Shen
yeah, that's the problem. the file on the mirror has a bad filename.
anyway i managed to get it installed.

thanks ;)

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Willie Wongww...@math.princeton.edu wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 04:53:05PM +0300, Penguin Lover Arttu V. squawked:
 On 9/7/09, Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu wrote:
  On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 08:19:09PM +0800, Penguin Lover Xi Shen squawked:
  when i am trying to d/l the dmg2img ebuild, i found that the filename
  trying to d/l is 'download?dmg2img-1.6.tar.gz'. since th '?' mark has
  special mean in http/ftp, i cannot d/l the file. i have check many
  mirrors around the world, the results are the same. i think there's
  some wrong on the author's server, which cause this wrong filename.
  could someone here fix this?
 
  So your really should be trying to download
 
  http://vu1tur.eu.org/tools/download.pl?dmg2img-1.6.1.tar.gz

 My guess was that OP meant that Gentoo Mirrors don't seem to carry the
 file, even if it is still directly downloadable?

 Over here portage tries downloading it from mirrors first (naturally),
 gets 404s and then goes for the real source. So, maybe OP has a gentoo
 mirror available nearby (in network topology) and just wants to reduce
 wasted international traffic?

 Ah, I didn't understand the OP correctly. I thought he was just
 looking at the ebuild and trying to download the package manually.

 Hum, it looks like that on the mirrors, the file is stored
 as 'download.pl?dmg2img-1.6.tar.gz', which may cause a problem. I
 think you should file a bug! Maybe tell them to change SRC_URI to
 something like
  SRC_URI=http://vu1tur.eu.org/tools/download.pl?${P}.tar.gz
    mirror://gentoo/download.pl%3f${P}.tar.gz
 So the the link to the version on the mirror works.

 Also... another thought. Don't know if it works:
 I vaguely remember something in EAPI-2 that may fix this problem,

 http://ciaranm.wordpress.com/2008/09/28/eapi-2-src_uri-arrows/

 It may not get acted on just yet, but it maybe better for the future.
 So perhaps you can try mentioning it in your bug :)

 W
 --
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Massimiliano Ziccardi
Yep, sorry.

Same question : how did you notice the problem was gksu? I didn't notice any
dependency from bluez...

(I'd like to be able to solve these problems without bother you)

Thanks,
Massimiliano


[gentoo-user] Xen questions

2009-09-08 Thread Xavier Parizet
Hi everyone,

I saw recently on some others threads that virtualization is being used by some
of you. So, i have a question : currently, i'm running a dedicated server under
Xen 3.3.1 and xen-sources-2.6.18-r12, with 11 domUs, all running Gentoo of
course, and on amd64. But, i was wondering about the used kernel version.

Indeed, these one begin to be very old, and i saw that on some other linux
distributions, the used kernel version is 2.6.25. So here are my questions :

  - why 2.6.21 stays masked on ~arch (last entry in changelog date of 
31/08/2008) ?
  - is someone still working on Xen in Gentoo ?
  - i know about kvm, so is there any reason to migrate to KVM instead of Xen ?

Thanks a lot for your opinion.

Best regards.

-- 
  Xavier Parizet
YaGB :   http://gentooist.com
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Re: [gentoo-user] Xen questions

2009-09-08 Thread Heiko Wundram

On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:38:16 +0200, Xavier Parizet x...@gentooist.com
wrote:
   - why 2.6.21 stays masked on ~arch (last entry in changelog date of
   31/08/2008) ?

2.6.21 was a forward-port done by some Gentoo-guys based on the
2.6.18-kernel that was part of Xen 3.1.3 (IIRC). It's _old_, really old,
that's why it's hardmasked. The current 2.6.18-based Xen-kernel ebuild is
the kernel (patch) that's included with Xen 3.3 (again, IIRC). There are no
newer _official_ Xen-kernels (at least none newer than 2.6.18), and the
Gentoo-developers decided not to include a forward-port anymore, as it
quickly becomes unmaintainable when the version difference between kernel
trunk and Xen kernel becomes larger.

There are forward-ports done by some other distributions (the 2.6.25 you're
hinting at is the Xen-kernel forward port of the Debian-guys, IIRC).
Someone is rebasing the SuSE-forward-ports of the Xen-kernels to Gentoo,
and is offering ebuilds for download here:

http://code.google.com/p/gentoo-xen-kernel/downloads/list

The kernels offered by the SuSE-developers are at most 1-2 minor revisions
behind the current vanilla kernel (as far as i can tell). I've been using
those rebased SuSE-Xen-kernels productively on a Gentoo machine since quite
some time, and they've always been very stable.

   - is someone still working on Xen in Gentoo ?

Yes. To convince you, Xen 3.4.1 took about a day (post release by the Xen
developers) to be included in ~x86-portage.

   - i know about kvm, so is there any reason to migrate to KVM instead of
   Xen ?

If you're currently using HVM, partially; HVM is in portage (and is also
maintained), so you wouldn't need to rely on outside ebuilds, but the
respective infrastructure for maintaining HVM-based machines from the
command-line is poor (there's no such thing as xm and init-scripts, which
can be a major PITA). If you're using para-virtualized kernels, then
definitely no, as HVM fully virtualizes all I/O (which degrades disk-IO
considerably more than a paravirtualized Xen instance), unless you're
adventurous and willing to play with virtio-drivers, which I could never
get completely stable.

YMMV, and HTH!

-- 
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Gehrkens.IT GmbH

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FAX 0511-59027957 | http://www.xencon.net

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Massimiliano Ziccardi
Thanks a lot!

Massimiliano


Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
 Yep, sorry.
 
 Same question : how did you notice the problem was gksu? I didn't notice
  any dependency from bluez...
 
 (I'd like to be able to solve these problems without bother you)
 
 Thanks,
 Massimiliano
 

from your emerge-log.txt:


[nomerge  ] net-misc/wicd-1.5.9-r1 
[nomerge  ]  x11-libs/gksu-2.0.2 
[nomerge  ]   gnome-base/nautilus-2.24.2-r3 
[nomerge  ]gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.24.3-r1 
[nomerge  ] dev-python/libgnome-python-2.22.3 
[nomerge  ]  gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.24.1 
[nomerge  ]   gnome-base/libgnome-2.24.1 
[nomerge  ]gnome-base/gvfs-1.0.3-r2 
[ebuild  N] net-wireless/bluez-libs-3.36  USE=-debug 

wicd is installed and needs/wants gksu.

gksu is installed and needs nautilus (wtf?)
nautilus is installed and needs gnome-desktop
...

gnome gvfs is installed and wants bluez-libs.

bluez-libs are not installed, so they are pulled in.



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Massimiliano Ziccardi
Hmmm.. It seems that uninstalling firefox did solve the problem

Thank you all!!

Today you teched me a lot of things about gentoo!!!

Thank you,
Massimiliano


Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 15:14:40 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:56:35 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
   On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:14:27 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
  equery d bluez did not return anything...
 
  localhost ~ # equery d bluez
  [ Searching for packages depending on bluez... ]
  localhost ~ #
 
  Any other idea?
 
  Thank you!!

 yes, get rid of wicd and its dependencies.
   
No, he doesn't need to do that. gksu is one of three options:
   
RDEPEND=
   
|| ( x11-misc/ktsuss x11-libs/gksu kde-base/kdesu )
   
So he probably wants to do this:
   
emerge -av1 kdesu
emerge -avuND world
   
This works. I know it works. I have wicd and I do not have gksu and
emerge doesn't feel inclined to tell me to get gksu.
  
   the problem is that gksu is already installed. He has to remove that
   and all its deps or emerge will always try to pull in bluez-libs.
 
  So why are you telling him to get rid of wicd?
 
 because wicd was/is pulling in gksu on his system, which is pulling in
 nautilus, which is pulling in a lot of other stuff.

Which conflicts with this prior statement of yours:

the problem is that gksu is already installed

If it's already installed, it will pull in bluez. It's in the dep tree not 
because he wants wicd, but because it is already present.

wicd works just fine without gksu. It will use kdesu, which is also fine as he 
wants to merge kde-meta

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Virtualization

2009-09-08 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 07 September 2009 22:29:31 walt wrote:
 On 09/07/2009 02:02 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
  I tried it, but on my box it can't detect either of the DVD drives, so
  I can't install a client.

 Hm, never tried that.  The reason is that I've always just used an iso
 file 'mounted' on the virtual machine's CD/DVD player to install a guest.
  Most open-source OS's supply the install disk in the form of an iso
 file, and to install Windows I create an iso file from the original
 CD/DVD first.

The trouble is that there isn't a CD or DVD player on the vm at all; 
only /dev/fd0, which isn't a lot of use to me.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Making sure I am a good netizen and secure.

2009-09-08 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 07 September 2009 19:09:25 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Monday 07 September 2009 17:39:06 Dale wrote:
  Peter Humphrey wrote:
   On Sunday 06 September 2009 21:12:37 Alan McKinnon wrote:
   On Sunday 06 September 2009 19:31:27 Peter Humphrey wrote:
   On Sunday 06 September 2009 10:49:13 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  
   Um, dude grub selects a kernel. Or an OS. But never a DE.
   The dm does that.
  
   Depends how you have it set up. On this box I have two separate
   installations: one with kde:3 and one with kde:4. I select the one I
   want with grub entries.
 
  Could you post your grub.conf?  I'd like to see how you do that.

 Well, I'd do it with a customized init that launches a dm preset to a
 specific xsession. Or selects a specific .xinitrc.

In answer to Dale, here's my grub.conf. Do you (Alan) think your way is 
better, or simpler? (Hope you can sort the wrapping out.)

[...]
title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.30-r6
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/kernel-x86_64-2.6.30-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/md0 vga=0x31A 
video=vesafb:mtrr:3,ywrap fbcon=scrollback:128k splash=silent 
memory_corruption_check=1

title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.30-r6, no X
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/kernel-x86_64-2.6.30-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/md0 vga=0x317 
video=vesafb:mtrr:3,ywrap splash=silent softlevel=no-x 
memory_corruption_check=1

title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.30-r6, no network
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/kernel-x86_64-2.6.30-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/md0 vga=0x317 
video=vesafb:mtrr:3,ywrap splash=silent softlevel=nonetwork 
memory_corruption_check=1

[...]

title=Gentoo Test System 2.6.30-r6
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/kernel-x86_64-2.6.30-gentoo-r6-testsys root=/dev/sdc3 
vga=0x31A video=vesafb:mtrr:3,ywrap splash=silent

title=Gentoo Test System 2.6.30-r6, no X
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/kernel-x86_64-2.6.30-gentoo-r6-testsys root=/dev/sdc3 
vga=0x317 video=vesafb:mtrr:3,ywrap splash=silent softlevel=no-x

title=Gentoo Test System 2.6.30-r6, no network
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/kernel-x86_64-2.6.30-gentoo-r6-testsys root=/dev/sdc3 
vga=0x317 video=vesafb:mtrr:3,ywrap splash=silent softlevel=nonetwork

[...]

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Massimiliano Ziccardi
I hate this Now I get this error:

Calculating dependencies... done!

 Verifying ebuild manifests

!!! Digest verification failed:
!!! /usr/portage/dev-python/PyQt4/ChangeLog
!!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size
!!! Got: 11925
!!! Expected: 11928


Have you any idea?

Thanks a lot,
Massimiliano

On 9/8/09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tuesday 08 September 2009 15:14:40 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:56:35 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
   On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:14:27 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
  equery d bluez did not return anything...
 
  localhost ~ # equery d bluez
  [ Searching for packages depending on bluez... ]
  localhost ~ #
 
  Any other idea?
 
  Thank you!!

 yes, get rid of wicd and its dependencies.
   
No, he doesn't need to do that. gksu is one of three options:
   
RDEPEND=
   
|| ( x11-misc/ktsuss x11-libs/gksu kde-base/kdesu )
   
So he probably wants to do this:
   
emerge -av1 kdesu
emerge -avuND world
   
This works. I know it works. I have wicd and I do not have gksu and
emerge doesn't feel inclined to tell me to get gksu.
  
   the problem is that gksu is already installed. He has to remove that
   and all its deps or emerge will always try to pull in bluez-libs.
 
  So why are you telling him to get rid of wicd?

 because wicd was/is pulling in gksu on his system, which is pulling in
 nautilus, which is pulling in a lot of other stuff.

 Which conflicts with this prior statement of yours:

 the problem is that gksu is already installed

 If it's already installed, it will pull in bluez. It's in the dep tree not
 because he wants wicd, but because it is already present.

 wicd works just fine without gksu. It will use kdesu, which is also fine as
 he
 wants to merge kde-meta

 --
 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com





Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 17:11:33 Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
 Still no luck...
 
 Attached my new log...
 
 Any other idea?

From your log:

[nomerge  ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.0.13  USE=dbus gnome startup-
notification xulrunner -bindist -custom-optimization -iceweasel -java -
mozdevelop -restrict-javascript LINGUAS=-af -ar -be -bg -bn -bn_IN -ca -cs -
cy -da -de -el -en -en_GB -en_US -eo -es -es_AR -es_ES -et -eu -fi -fr -fy -
fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gl -gu -gu_IN -he -hi -hi_IN -hu -id -is -it -ja -ka -kn -ko 
-ku -lt -lv -mk -mn -mr -nb -nb_NO -nl -nn -nn_NO -oc -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -
pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -si -sk -sl -sq -sr -sv -sv_SE -te -th -tr -uk -zh -zh_CN 
-zh_TW 
[nomerge  ]  gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.24.1  USE=-doc 
[nomerge  ]   gnome-base/libgnome-2.24.1  USE=esd -debug -doc 
[nomerge  ]gnome-base/gvfs-1.0.3-r2  USE=bluetooth gnome hal -archive 
-avahi -bash-completion -cdda -debug -doc -fuse -gnome-keyring -gphoto2 -
samba 
[ebuild  N] net-wireless/bluez-libs-3.36  USE=-debug 0 kB

The basic problem is that bluez version 3 and 4 are incompatible. You can have 
one or the other but not both. If packages want to give you both, you have to 
persuade them to not give you the undesired one.

You need to learn to read the emerge output and see what is causing bluez-
libs-3 to be emerged. In this case it is gvfs. That ebuild says this:

RDEPEND=
...
bluetooth? (
dev-libs/dbus-glib
=net-wireless/bluez-libs-3.12


And bluez-libs is part of the version 3 package. The only way to solve this is 
to stop gvfs from wanting bluez-libs. Several options:

You are installing kde-meta, do you really want all of gnome? Put -gnome in 
USE.

Do you really want gnome support in Firefox? Put -gnome in package.use for 
firefox

Do you use gvfs to access filesystems over bluetooth? Put -bluetooth in 
package.use for gvfs

Do you actually use bluetooth at all? Put -bluetooth in USE

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 17:20:23 Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
 Hmmm.. It seems that uninstalling firefox did solve the problem

Now you don't have Firefox.

fifty bucks says you want it back tomorrow :-)

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 15:12:57 Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
 Am Dienstag, 8. September 2009 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:
  On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
   The command is :
  
   emerge -uD --tree world
  
   The output is in the attached file
  
  
   Thanks you all!
 
  nice wicd really pulls in a lot of crap. Or to me more accurate gksu
  pulls in a lot of crap. Nautilus? Just to ask for the root pw?
 
  That is really, really bad.
 
 Hm.. I’m slightly puzzled. Wicd needs one of kdesu, gksu or ktsuss. But
  since it’s already installed (nomerge in the emerge output), this
  condition is already fulfilled. So one other solution would be to
  deinstall wicd, install kde so kdesu gets installed and then remerge wicd.
  Then it finds kdesu and won't ask for gksu and nautilus in the process.
  Besides, the dependency nautilus can be removed by using -gnome.

That won't work. He already has gksu installed

The references to wicd are irrelevant, pure coincidence that wicd can use gksu

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Massimiliano Ziccardi
hmm... an emerge-webrsync seems to have solved it

Thank you a lot!!!


On 9/8/09, Massimiliano Ziccardi massimiliano.zicca...@gmail.com wrote:
 I hate this Now I get this error:

 Calculating dependencies... done!

 Verifying ebuild manifests

 !!! Digest verification failed:
 !!! /usr/portage/dev-python/PyQt4/ChangeLog
 !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size
 !!! Got: 11925
 !!! Expected: 11928


 Have you any idea?

 Thanks a lot,
 Massimiliano

 On 9/8/09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tuesday 08 September 2009 15:14:40 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:56:35 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
   On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:14:27 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
  equery d bluez did not return anything...
 
  localhost ~ # equery d bluez
  [ Searching for packages depending on bluez... ]
  localhost ~ #
 
  Any other idea?
 
  Thank you!!

 yes, get rid of wicd and its dependencies.
   
No, he doesn't need to do that. gksu is one of three options:
   
RDEPEND=
   
|| ( x11-misc/ktsuss x11-libs/gksu kde-base/kdesu )
   
So he probably wants to do this:
   
emerge -av1 kdesu
emerge -avuND world
   
This works. I know it works. I have wicd and I do not have gksu
and
emerge doesn't feel inclined to tell me to get gksu.
  
   the problem is that gksu is already installed. He has to remove that
   and all its deps or emerge will always try to pull in bluez-libs.
 
  So why are you telling him to get rid of wicd?

 because wicd was/is pulling in gksu on his system, which is pulling in
 nautilus, which is pulling in a lot of other stuff.

 Which conflicts with this prior statement of yours:

 the problem is that gksu is already installed

 If it's already installed, it will pull in bluez. It's in the dep tree
 not
 because he wants wicd, but because it is already present.

 wicd works just fine without gksu. It will use kdesu, which is also fine
 as
 he
 wants to merge kde-meta

 --
 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com






Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 17:42:26 Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
 Hi Alan... Thank you... No, I don't want gnome at all...
 
 Is a 'set USE=-gnome' enough?

No. Doing that is not persistent.

I recommend you need to re-read the Gentoo docs, the chapter about USE flags.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Virtualization

2009-09-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Nick Khamissym...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Guys,

 I really apperciate your help but as it sits I am unable to compile
 vmware-server 1.x or XEN. I have attached the build log. Basically I know I
 can larman the new version of vmware-server2 but I heard it is a clunker. I
 really need to get virtual servers up on the server before I get fired ;) :)
 lol.

Hi,

vmware is very touchy when it comes to the kernel version you're
using. If you want to use an older vmware you should use an older
kernel, too. If you want to use the newest kernels you should use
vmware overlay and emerge the latest vmware stuff. :) At least that's
my experience with it.



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Massimiliano Ziccardi
Thank you all a lot.
I won't bother you for some time :-)

Just one thing: people often thinks gentoo is harder than other
distributions to use.

Well, maybe that's true, however here I found the best support I've ever
found for a linux distribution (and for softwares in general...).

Keep on this way.

Thanks,
Massimiliano


On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Tuesday 08 September 2009 17:42:26 Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
  Hi Alan... Thank you... No, I don't want gnome at all...
 
  Is a 'set USE=-gnome' enough?

 No. Doing that is not persistent.

 I recommend you need to re-read the Gentoo docs, the chapter about USE
 flags.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Making sure I am a good netizen and secure.

2009-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 17:23:37 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Monday 07 September 2009 19:09:25 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Monday 07 September 2009 17:39:06 Dale wrote:
   Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Sunday 06 September 2009 21:12:37 Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Sunday 06 September 2009 19:31:27 Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Sunday 06 September 2009 10:49:13 Alan McKinnon wrote:
   
Um, dude grub selects a kernel. Or an OS. But never a DE.
The dm does that.
   
Depends how you have it set up. On this box I have two separate
installations: one with kde:3 and one with kde:4. I select the one I
want with grub entries.
  
   Could you post your grub.conf?  I'd like to see how you do that.
 
  Well, I'd do it with a customized init that launches a dm preset to a
  specific xsession. Or selects a specific .xinitrc.
 
 In answer to Dale, here's my grub.conf. Do you (Alan) think your way is
 better, or simpler? (Hope you can sort the wrapping out.)

I don't see anything there that selects KDE-3 versus KDE-4

Apparently, you have two gentoo installs on the same machine:

a regular one with / on /dev/md0
a test system with / on /dev/sdc3 

I presume you have KDE-3 on one and KDE-4 on the other. This is purely and 
only a happy circumstance and has nothing to do with selecting a DE from grub. 
The entry you select at boot-time runs whatever system you configured, which 
in turn runs whatever it has on it. You could remove KDE-3 and install OpenBox 
instead, you are still not selecting OpenBox from the grub screen.







 
 [...]
 title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.30-r6
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /boot/kernel-x86_64-2.6.30-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/md0 vga=0x31A
 video=vesafb:mtrr:3,ywrap fbcon=scrollback:128k splash=silent
 memory_corruption_check=1
 
 title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.30-r6, no X
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /boot/kernel-x86_64-2.6.30-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/md0 vga=0x317
 video=vesafb:mtrr:3,ywrap splash=silent softlevel=no-x
 memory_corruption_check=1
 
 title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.30-r6, no network
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /boot/kernel-x86_64-2.6.30-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/md0 vga=0x317
 video=vesafb:mtrr:3,ywrap splash=silent softlevel=nonetwork
 memory_corruption_check=1
 
 [...]
 
 title=Gentoo Test System 2.6.30-r6
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /boot/kernel-x86_64-2.6.30-gentoo-r6-testsys root=/dev/sdc3
 vga=0x31A video=vesafb:mtrr:3,ywrap splash=silent
 
 title=Gentoo Test System 2.6.30-r6, no X
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /boot/kernel-x86_64-2.6.30-gentoo-r6-testsys root=/dev/sdc3
 vga=0x317 video=vesafb:mtrr:3,ywrap splash=silent softlevel=no-x
 
 title=Gentoo Test System 2.6.30-r6, no network
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /boot/kernel-x86_64-2.6.30-gentoo-r6-testsys root=/dev/sdc3
 vga=0x317 video=vesafb:mtrr:3,ywrap splash=silent softlevel=nonetwork
 
 [...]
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xen questions

2009-09-08 Thread Xavier Parizet
Heiko Wundram a écrit :
 On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:38:16 +0200, Xavier Parizet x...@gentooist.com
 wrote:
   - why 2.6.21 stays masked on ~arch (last entry in changelog date of
   31/08/2008) ?
 
 2.6.21 was a forward-port done by some Gentoo-guys based on the
 2.6.18-kernel that was part of Xen 3.1.3 (IIRC). It's _old_, really old,
 that's why it's hardmasked. The current 2.6.18-based Xen-kernel ebuild is
 the kernel (patch) that's included with Xen 3.3 (again, IIRC). There are no
 newer _official_ Xen-kernels (at least none newer than 2.6.18), and the
 Gentoo-developers decided not to include a forward-port anymore, as it
 quickly becomes unmaintainable when the version difference between kernel
 trunk and Xen kernel becomes larger.
 
 There are forward-ports done by some other distributions (the 2.6.25 you're
 hinting at is the Xen-kernel forward port of the Debian-guys, IIRC).
 Someone is rebasing the SuSE-forward-ports of the Xen-kernels to Gentoo,
 and is offering ebuilds for download here:
 
 http://code.google.com/p/gentoo-xen-kernel/downloads/list
 
 The kernels offered by the SuSE-developers are at most 1-2 minor revisions
 behind the current vanilla kernel (as far as i can tell). I've been using
 those rebased SuSE-Xen-kernels productively on a Gentoo machine since quite
 some time, and they've always been very stable.

Hmmm for me it's quite ok to keep on with the 2.6.18 series, because i have
s much things to deal with the servers (my pipe is full twice ^^),
getting on the way with a new kernel compilation and having a downtime is no
more a possible thing as i've (for the moment, my pipe is full remember ?) no
backup servers for my dns/mail/etc... I'm just wondering if this can be a
security issue ? Or is the productivity gain good enough to motive me for
this, i take your words, pita ?

 
   - is someone still working on Xen in Gentoo ?
 
 Yes. To convince you, Xen 3.4.1 took about a day (post release by the Xen
 developers) to be included in ~x86-portage.

You're learning me something, i was not aware of such a release... This makes me
rethinking about the productivity gain of this new version ? I really love
having last versions of a software, if it implies a speedup...

 
   - i know about kvm, so is there any reason to migrate to KVM instead of
   Xen ?
 
 If you're currently using HVM, partially; HVM is in portage (and is also
 maintained), so you wouldn't need to rely on outside ebuilds, but the
 respective infrastructure for maintaining HVM-based machines from the
 command-line is poor (there's no such thing as xm and init-scripts, which
 can be a major PITA). If you're using para-virtualized kernels, then
 definitely no, as HVM fully virtualizes all I/O (which degrades disk-IO
 considerably more than a paravirtualized Xen instance), unless you're
 adventurous and willing to play with virtio-drivers, which I could never
 get completely stable.

I'm not using HVM at all. All my guests are Gentoo ones, so no need for this.
I'm using around one guests by provided services like name resolution, web
server, mail, etc, etc...

 YMMV, and HTH!

Until now, very good results with this architecture ! And this helped me, so
keep on going ;)

Many thanks.

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[SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] hal and keyboard layout switching

2009-09-08 Thread pat
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 00:39:25 +0200, Pat wrote
 Hello,
 
 I want to setup hal to enable me switching between two keyboard layouts.
 My original configuration in xorg.conf is:
 Section InputDevice
 Identifier  Keyboard0
 Driver  kbd
 Option  XkbModel pc104
 Option  XkbLayout us,cz
 Option  XkbOptions grp:shift_toggle,grp_led:num
 EndSection
 
 I've searched web and got some information, but I'm doing something wrong.
 
 I've created file /etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-input.fdi and configure it 
 like: device match key=info.capabilities contains=input.keyboard
 merge key=input.x11_options.XkbModel type=stringpc104/merge
 merge key=input.x11_options.XkbLayout type=stringus,cz/merge
 merge key=input.x11_options.XkbOptions
 type=stringgrp:shifts_toggle/merge
 /match
 /device
 
 I have installed hal and running hald. The xorg-server version is 
 1.5.3-r6.
 
 Thanks for help
 
   Pat
 


Sorry !!! I have to restart hald and not only X server !!!

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 17:28:46 Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
 I hate this Now I get this error:
 
 Calculating dependencies... done!
 
  Verifying ebuild manifests
 
 !!! Digest verification failed:
 !!! /usr/portage/dev-python/PyQt4/ChangeLog
 !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size
 !!! Got: 11925
 !!! Expected: 11928
 
 
 Have you any idea?
 


1. Wait an hour, resync, try again

2. Wait 24 hours, resync, try again

3. File a bug

4. [For the truly brave only]
   ebuild /usr/portage/dev-python/PyQt4/PyQt4-4.4.4-r5 manifest

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Massimiliano Ziccardi
Hi Alan... Thank you... No, I don't want gnome at all...

Is a 'set USE=-gnome' enough?

Thanks,
Massimiliano


Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:42:26 +0200, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:

 Is a 'set USE=-gnome' enough?

No, you need to add it to make.conf, either manually or by running
flagedit -gnome


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Re: [gentoo-user] mp3splt-gtk, hearts and hwinfo fails to emerge

2009-09-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Arttu V. wrote:
 On 9/7/09, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 OK.  It finished recompiling boost and Scribus.  Both hearts and
 mp3splt-gtk still fail with the same error as before.

 Any ideas?


 Ok, let's first take back the hearts compiles on amd64. It compiled.
 Once. On the absolutely-minimal, stable-only amd64 chroot I use when
 testing weird things (and then immediately roll back with emerge
 --depclean).

 On x86 and more usable amd64 desktop setup I get a similar error as
 you did. And I wouldn't be surprised if it is bug #273560 -- which
 will need a patch.

 mp3splt-gtk, however, compiles fine on two desktop amd64 setups. I
 cannot test it on x86 right now, hopefully tomorrow I'll again
 remember to reboot to 32-bits and try some more. Maybe even get
 something done for the hearts, if the hints in the bug report are
 sufficient for fixing it.



 Yea, hearts is already installed but if I needed to reinstall for some
 reason, I would be in a mess.  I just hope they will fix it since it is
 KDE 3.

 I could send mp3splt-gtk to the dustbin for a while, I guess.  Just hope
 no one else needs it.  ;-)

I'm using without problems: media-sound/mp3splt-gtk-0.5.6 with
USE=nls -audacious -gstreamer

Can't help you with hearts because I'm not going to emerge kdelibs-3
to try that :) it looks like something Qt-related, though.



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Tuesday 08 September 2009 17:11:33 Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
  Still no luck...
 
  Attached my new log...
 
  Any other idea?
 
 From your log:
 
 [nomerge  ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.0.13  USE=dbus gnome startup-
 notification xulrunner -bindist -custom-optimization -iceweasel -java -
 mozdevelop -restrict-javascript LINGUAS=-af -ar -be -bg -bn -bn_IN -ca
  -cs - cy -da -de -el -en -en_GB -en_US -eo -es -es_AR -es_ES -et -eu -fi
  -fr -fy - fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gl -gu -gu_IN -he -hi -hi_IN -hu -id -is -it
  -ja -ka -kn -ko -ku -lt -lv -mk -mn -mr -nb -nb_NO -nl -nn -nn_NO -oc -pa
  -pa_IN -pl -pt - pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -si -sk -sl -sq -sr -sv -sv_SE -te
  -th -tr -uk -zh -zh_CN -zh_TW
 [nomerge  ]  gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.24.1  USE=-doc
 [nomerge  ]   gnome-base/libgnome-2.24.1  USE=esd -debug -doc
 [nomerge  ]gnome-base/gvfs-1.0.3-r2  USE=bluetooth gnome hal
  -archive -avahi -bash-completion -cdda -debug -doc -fuse -gnome-keyring
  -gphoto2 - samba
 [ebuild  N] net-wireless/bluez-libs-3.36  USE=-debug 0 kB
 
 The basic problem is that bluez version 3 and 4 are incompatible. You can
  have one or the other but not both. If packages want to give you both, you
  have to persuade them to not give you the undesired one.
 
 You need to learn to read the emerge output and see what is causing bluez-
 libs-3 to be emerged. In this case it is gvfs. That ebuild says this:
 
 RDEPEND=
   ...
 bluetooth? (
 dev-libs/dbus-glib
 
 =net-wireless/bluez-libs-3.12
 
 And bluez-libs is part of the version 3 package. The only way to solve this
  is to stop gvfs from wanting bluez-libs. Several options:
 
 You are installing kde-meta, do you really want all of gnome? Put -gnome in
 USE.
 
 Do you really want gnome support in Firefox? Put -gnome in package.use for
 firefox
 
 Do you use gvfs to access filesystems over bluetooth? Put -bluetooth in
 package.use for gvfs
 
 Do you actually use bluetooth at all? Put -bluetooth in USE
 

That covers pretty much all bases.

 If you don't wnat gnome - just put -gnome in make.conf (btw -alsa, are you 
sure about that? you have -alsa, -oss - you don't want sound?

set -gnome, if you don't want gnome. Then do an emerge -a --newuse world. Then 
emerge -a --depclean, and then retry. 

As long as gvfs with bluetooth flag is around, you will have that blockers. As 
long as several packages of you have the gnome flag, they will pull in gvfs.



[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Virtualization

2009-09-08 Thread walt

On 09/08/2009 08:16 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:

On Monday 07 September 2009 22:29:31 walt wrote:

On 09/07/2009 02:02 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:

I tried it, but on my box it can't detect either of the DVD drives, so
I can't install a client.


Hm, never tried that.  The reason is that I've always just used an iso
file 'mounted' on the virtual machine's CD/DVD player to install a guest.
  Most open-source OS's supply the install disk in the form of an iso
file, and to install Windows I create an iso file from the original
CD/DVD first.


The trouble is that there isn't a CD or DVD player on the vm at all;
only /dev/fd0, which isn't a lot of use to me.


You've confused me there.  We're talking about VirtualBox, right? Every
time I create a new virtual machine it automatically has a virtual CD/DVD
player on which I can mount ISO files.  Just tell vbox which ISO image you
want mounted on the virtual CD player and start the vm.

Are you seeing something very different at your end?






Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mpd issues

2009-09-08 Thread Maxim Wexler
Doing it again. Only change is to tell the conf to get debuggy. Unit
boots; last three lines before login:

Starting Music Player Daemon
Starting local
Stopping Music Player Daemon

This after several successful boots with no problem.

Nothing in mpd.log

A clue? Seems to occur when I'm mobile(this is an Asus netbook BTW)
and I have to enter the BIOS to turn the wifi on(I know, there's a key
to do this but it doesn't work, yet).

If you think it would help to login to my machine, I'm game. Send me
the details, pls

On 9/3/09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thursday 03 September 2009 21:04:06 Maxim Wexler wrote:
  NAFC.

 New anagram for me. Not As Far...?

 Not A F..king Clue

 :-)

 But if you give me an account on that box I can have a look for you.
  I'll send you a public key.

 Can't grok. If I have an account on this box it's news to me. How
 and what would you be looking for?

 Well, you basically said mpd doesn't work. Why?

 To which the best answer is I haven't the foggiest idea. But, if I could
 log
 into the machine in question and run a shell, I'd be in an excellent
 position
 to give a sane answer.

 Don't read too much into it. I felt like taking the mickey out of someone
 and
 today was your turn :-)

  Or, you could look in your logs and tell us what you see. You might have
  to tell mpd to start logging errors first.

 Not doing it now. I followed the wiki and made the log_level verbose
 did a restart and just got a lot of 'database: get song' lines.

 I've heard this from others. mpd known to change it's behavior from
 boot to boot.

 Without some form of sane output message or a well-known bug, it's not
 possible to diagnose what you might be running into.

 I personally have never heard of mpd doing different things between boots.
 Changing configs and not restarting mpd - yes. Random changes - no.

 mpd works just fine for me and is rock-solid here.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sSMTP write error...?

2009-09-08 Thread Jarry

Adam Carter wrote:

2009-09-03T17:30:15+00:00 obelix sSMTP[7233]: 421 4.3.0 collect:
 Cannot write ./dfn83HUEom007670 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=209):
 Permission denied
2009-09-03T17:30:15+00:00 obelix )

I suppose it comes from mail-mta/ssmtp, but I do not understand.
Some persmission problem? Where does ssmtp want to write?


You could try 'strace -p 7233' to see if it shows where the attempted write is 
occuring. Uid=0 means root and I don't imagine there's many places root cant 
write.


The problem is, there is no more any process with id 7233,
so strace finds nothing. BTW, I have found a following file
in /root :

# ls -l /root/
-rw-r--r-- 1 root ssmtp4 Sep  8 19:00 dead.letter

There are only 4 or 5 empty lines in it, nothing more.
It has been created at the time of the last such an entry
in /var/log/messages :

2009-09-08T19:00:13+00:00 obelix sSMTP[27923]: 421 4.3.0 collect:
 Cannot write ./dfn88J0CTX028212 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=209):
 Permission denied
2009-09-08T19:00:13+00:00 obelix )

I think these two events are somehow tied together. Any more ideas?

Jarry

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[gentoo-user] Why is apps-misc/gnuit blocked by dev-util/git?

2009-09-08 Thread Grant Edwards
I'm trying to install gnu interactive tools (apps-misc/gnuit),
but it is being blocked by the git source code management
application (dev-util/get):

   alpha grante # emerge -av gnuit
   
   These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
   
   Calculating dependencies... done!
   [ebuild  N] app-misc/gnuit-4.9.5  874 kB
   [blocks B ] dev-util/git[gtk] (dev-util/git[gtk] is blocking 
app-misc/gnuit-4.9.5)

I can't figure out what the two have to do with each other.  I
rarely use git, so I guess I could uninstall it -- but why
would gnuit be blocked by git?

Does this have something to do with the fact that
apps-misc/gnuit used to be called apps-misc/git?
   
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[gentoo-user] Re: Mythtv ATSC WinTV 1600

2009-09-08 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Neal Hogannealho...@gmail.com wrote:
 I hope you receive the stuff below with a grain of appreciation. I've
 asked for help on the mythtv forum, but have yet to get it.


 I recently acquired a new Hauppauge WinTV 1600 and have successfully
 gotten the analog side working with the analog channels (1-99). That
 is, I can plug my (Comcast) cable from the wall to the tuner card's
 analog input and get the basic cable channels.

 However, the whole reason for getting tv tuner card and mythtv was to
 record japanTV, which is beyond channel 99 and requires a set top box
 to watch it on the TV. I've read the installation instructions for the
 ATSC input of the card but I'm having problems and am aware of the IR
 blaster option.

 I suppose the main problem . . . the one causing the other problems
 like not getting any channels is that mythtv is not seeing my card.
 When I go to configure the capture card there is not DVB DTV card type
 offered, which suggests to me that card is not being seen.

 Suggestions?


First, I want to apologize for the double post the other day. I, for
some reason, had forgotten that I'd already posted the day before.

Anyway, my situation is much better. I am able to capture japanTV. The
thing is that I'm not sure how. Here is what I did.

1) Connected the tuner card's analog side to the cable box/set-top-box.

2) Set the cable box to japanTV (in this case, channel 674)

3) Attempted to gather channels at mythtv-setup, which it did . . . a
handful (16,17,18,19, etc).

4) Just to see what channels it claimed to have found, I started
recording 1 minute bits of each.

5) To my surprise, tuner card channels 17,18, and 19 captured japanTV
with varying degrees of quality (18 being the best).

So, for now I feel better because I can put this project down for a
while. I guess part of my confusion comes from the fact that I didn't
set the tuner channel like I would the TV (channel 3). Although,
japanTV seems to be the only thing getting though.



[gentoo-user] Re: Why is apps-misc/gnuit blocked by dev-util/git?

2009-09-08 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-09-08, Dirk Heinrichs dirk.heinri...@online.de wrote:
 Am Dienstag 08 September 2009 21:32:42 schrieb Grant Edwards:

 Both packages install (unrelated) executables named gitview.

 Yeah, just seen it in the ebuild:

 # dev-util/git[gtk] installs the gitview tool which collides with this
 # package.

I should have known to look in the ebuild file.

 Just remove the gtk flag from git and you can install both.

Yup.  Just did that.  I'm surprised this sort of name collision
doesn't happen more often.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why is apps-misc/gnuit blocked by dev-util/git?

2009-09-08 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag 08 September 2009 21:32:42 schrieb Grant Edwards:
 Both packages install (unrelated) executables named gitview.

Yeah, just seen it in the ebuild:

# dev-util/git[gtk] installs the gitview tool which collides with this
# package.

Just remove the gtk flag from git and you can install both.

Bye...

Dirk



Re: [gentoo-user] Why is apps-misc/gnuit blocked by dev-util/git?

2009-09-08 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag 08 September 2009 21:24:52 schrieb Grant Edwards:
 Does this have something to do with the fact that
 apps-misc/gnuit used to be called apps-misc/git?

I'd rather say it has something to do with the fact that both packages provide 
a binary called /usr/bin/git,

Bye...

Dirk



[gentoo-user] Re: Why is apps-misc/gnuit blocked by dev-util/git?

2009-09-08 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-09-08, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:

alpha grante # emerge -av gnuit

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N] app-misc/gnuit-4.9.5  874 kB
[blocks B ] dev-util/git[gtk] (dev-util/git[gtk] is blocking 
 app-misc/gnuit-4.9.5)

 I can't figure out what the two have to do with each other.  I
 rarely use git, so I guess I could uninstall it -- but why
 would gnuit be blocked by git?

Both packages install (unrelated) executables named gitview.

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Re: [gentoo-user] autossh

2009-09-08 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Kaushal Shriyankaushalshri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 I am having issue with autossh host, I get

 autossh[13221]: checking for grace period, tries = 0
 autossh[13221]: starting ssh (count 1)
 autossh[13221]: ssh child pid is 13224
 autossh[13221]: check on child 13224
 autossh[13221]: set alarm for 600 secs
 autossh[13224]: execing /usr/bin/ssh

 My Autossh setting in my .bashrc are as  below

 export AUTOSSH_GATETIME=0
 export AUTOSSH_POLL=100
 export AUTOSSH_PORT=20020
 export AUTOSSH_DEBUG=1

 When i test by disconnecting and reconnecting the internet, It takes
 10mins to prompt for a password. Can this time interval be reduced ?

 Thanks and Regards,

 Kaushal

Where are you starting autossh from? The AUTOSSH_POLL variable in your
.bashrc is, it would appear, being disregarded in whatever context
autossh is starting in, otherwise you'd be seeing an up to 1 minute,
40 second delay on reconnecting, not 10 minutes.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 18:02:09 Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
 Thank you all a lot.
 I won't bother you for some time :-)
 
 Just one thing: people often thinks gentoo is harder than other
 distributions to use.

That's mostly because Gentoo forces you to think about what you want to do :-)

This isn't a bad thing, people have to think all the time. Like choosing a 
wife - men should consider very carefully if the girl is a good choice, then 
marry her if the answer is yes. Software choices are like that too. 

 Well, maybe that's true, however here I found the best support I've ever
 found for a linux distribution (and for softwares in general...).

Probably because we remember all too well what it was like for us in the early 
days. I remember my first Gentoo install in 2004, I just blindly followed the 
handbook without a clue what I was doing! That machine still runs, I fixed all 
my initial mistakes (no reinstall!), but it's no longer my primary machine. 
It's right next to me at this desk, as a file sever


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] mp3splt-gtk, hearts and hwinfo fails to emerge

2009-09-08 Thread Arttu V.
On 9/8/09, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm using without problems: media-sound/mp3splt-gtk-0.5.6 with
 USE=nls -audacious -gstreamer

Yes, it would seem that the 0.5.6 version compiles, while 0.5.4
(stable on amd64 and x86) won't on x86. And then there is already
0.5.7a out since months ago:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/mp3splt/files/

Who likes to interact with b.g.o? =)

-- 
Arttu V.



[gentoo-user] mplayer and sound in firefox during playback

2009-09-08 Thread Harry Putnam
I've installed mplayer and am able to play back online vidoes like
quicktime.   However, I get no sound.

Playing the same file retrieved from browser cache, directly with
mplayer, works with sound.  

What do I need to do with firefox to get the sound of videos?

I have the gecko-media player installed but I noticed in firefox
options/applications that *.mov files are not mentioned there.
Although quite a few other formats are listed as using gecko.





[gentoo-user] Re: mplayer and sound in firefox during playback

2009-09-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 09/09/2009 02:49 AM, Harry Putnam wrote:

I've installed mplayer and am able to play back online vidoes like
quicktime.   However, I get no sound.

Playing the same file retrieved from browser cache, directly with
mplayer, works with sound.

What do I need to do with firefox to get the sound of videos?

I have the gecko-media player installed but I noticed in firefox
options/applications that *.mov files are not mentioned there.
Although quite a few other formats are listed as using gecko.


Right-click on the video while it plays and go to the settings dialog. 
there, make sure you're using an appropriate sound back-end.





Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 01:02:33 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 This isn't a bad thing, people have to think all the time. Like
 choosing a wife - men should consider very carefully if the girl is a
 good choice, then marry her if the answer is yes. Software choices are
 like that too. 

Except software can be free, wives rarely are :(


-- 
Neil Bothwick

A bit of tolerance is worth a megabyte of flaming. -- Henry Spencer


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[gentoo-user] Re: Why is apps-misc/gnuit blocked by dev-util/git?

2009-09-08 Thread walt

On 09/08/2009 12:24 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:

I'm trying to install gnu interactive tools (apps-misc/gnuit),
but it is being blocked by the git source code management
application (dev-util/get):

alpha grante # emerge -av gnuit

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N] app-misc/gnuit-4.9.5  874 kB
[blocks B ] dev-util/git[gtk] (dev-util/git[gtk] is blocking 
app-misc/gnuit-4.9.5)

I can't figure out what the two have to do with each other.  I
rarely use git, so I guess I could uninstall it -- but why
would gnuit be blocked by git?

Does this have something to do with the fact that
apps-misc/gnuit used to be called apps-misc/git?


The collision was caused by Linus himself.  He decided to name his
new version control system 'git' without checking to see if anyone
else was using the name, and by the time the gnu-interactive-tools
devs got around to objecting, Linus just plowed right over them,
saying (literally) tough.

It was really rather rude, and the only time I've been disappointed
by Linus.




[gentoo-user] running e2fsck pre-mount

2009-09-08 Thread Maxim Wexler
Hi group,

On an Asus netbook during boot after the line

*checking all filesystems

there'll be a message something like 'filesystem mounted 36 times
without being checked. Check forced' then something like '17.1%
non-contiguous' then a long delay. Then one of two things, either a
message saying 'errors fixed' or a forced reboot.

What does it mean 'without being checked' Does the boot process expect
a filesystem check, in this case e2fsck? Why should their be errors. I
shut the machine like this '#shutdown -h(or -r) now' Everything is
unmounted and the machine turns off without a glitch that I''m aware
of.

How can I run e2fsck on the drives *before* they are mounted, if that
is what is required here?

Maxim



Re: [gentoo-user] Where are the following LVS kernel modules

2009-09-08 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 03:14 +, Nick Khamis wrote:
 I have included in my kenrel configuration the following:
 M IP virtual server support
 - [*] TCP load balancing
 - [*] UDP load balancing
 
 
 I have added to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 the follwing
 #lvs 
 ip_vs 
 ip_vs_rr 
 ip_vs_wrr 
 ip_vs_lc 
 ip_vs_wlc 
 ip_vs_lblc 
 ip_vs_lblcr 
 ip_vs_dh 
 ip_vs_sh 
 ip_vs_sed
 ip_vs_nq 
 ip_vs_ftp
 When I modprobe any of them I recieve module not found.
 
 What am I doing wrong.

$ find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name ip_vs*.ko





[gentoo-user] Where are the following LVS kernel modules

2009-09-08 Thread Nick Khamis
I have included in my kenrel configuration the following:
M IP virtual server support
- [*] TCP load balancing
- [*] UDP load balancing


I have added to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 the follwing

#lvs
ip_vs
ip_vs_rr
ip_vs_wrr
ip_vs_lc
ip_vs_wlc
ip_vs_lblc
ip_vs_lblcr
ip_vs_dh
ip_vs_sh
ip_vs_sed
ip_vs_nq
ip_vs_ftp

When I modprobe any of them I recieve module not found.

What am I doing wrong.


Your help is greatly apprecated,

Thanks In Advanced,
Ninus.