Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.0 and oldconfig

2011-07-23 Thread Dale
Albert Hopkins wrote: On Friday, July 22 at 18:42 (-0500), Dale said: I sort of hate to hear there are no major changes. I was hoping for a fix on my kernel panic problem. Oh well. I'll upgrade anyway. Maybe it will help. Fixing a kernel bug is not considered a major change. A

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo, new computer, still a bit confused

2011-07-23 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 7/22/2011 9:53 PM, CJoeB wrote: Because this will be a new computer and I may essentially void the warranty if I alter the pre-configuration, I seriously thought about leaving the status quo and putting up with Windows 7. However, I would lose practically as much as losing my first born! I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.0 and oldconfig

2011-07-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 01:10:55 -0500, Dale wrote: I was hoping since it was a whole different numbering scheme that it was a major change. That was the reason for my question. I didn't know if this was major or a normal update or something else. I was hoping for something like when

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.0 and oldconfig

2011-07-23 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 01:10:55 -0500, Dale wrote: I was hoping since it was a whole different numbering scheme that it was a major change. That was the reason for my question. I didn't know if this was major or a normal update or something else. I was hoping for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.0 and oldconfig

2011-07-23 Thread Adam Carter
.  I was *hoping* 3.0 was going to be a whole new thing but it appears that is not.  If, big if there, it was a major change, I was hoping for a fix.  Since it is not a major change, I'm not so hopeful now. Bugs are fixed all the time without major changes. If you enlist the google's help, you

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't kill Firefox!

2011-07-23 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 22.07.2011 21:20, schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer: Maybe because you did not enable compositing in xfce4, but use it with kde4? No, disabling composition is the first thing I do. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't kill Firefox!

2011-07-23 Thread Mick
On Friday 22 Jul 2011 20:20:47 Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: On Friday 22 July 2011 18:41:26 Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 22.07.2011 16:57, schrieb Alan McKinnon: It may look like KDE is the likely culprit based on just the information you provide, but I would be more inclined to look at

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.0 and oldconfig

2011-07-23 Thread Dale
Adam Carter wrote: . I was *hoping* 3.0 was going to be a whole new thing but it appears that is not. If, big if there, it was a major change, I was hoping for a fix. Since it is not a major change, I'm not so hopeful now. Bugs are fixed all the time without major changes. If you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.0 and oldconfig

2011-07-23 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: Does anyone remember the Seamonkey or Firefox upgrades or am I the only one that does? I know fixes are done all the time. I was just *hoping* that since this was a huge number change, like Seamonkey going from Seamonkey 1 to Seamonkey 2, that there would be some major

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.0 and oldconfig

2011-07-23 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Saturday, July 23 at 01:10 (-0500), Dale said: I was hoping since it was a whole different numbering scheme that it was a major change. That was the reason for my question. I didn't know if this was major or a normal update or something else. I was hoping for something like

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.0 and oldconfig

2011-07-23 Thread Dale
Albert Hopkins wrote: On Saturday, July 23 at 01:10 (-0500), Dale said: I was hoping since it was a whole different numbering scheme that it was a major change. That was the reason for my question. I didn't know if this was major or a normal update or something else. I was hoping for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel panics and more info

2011-07-23 Thread YoYo Siska
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 12:22:32PM -0500, Dale wrote: ... using either. I clicked on the link to download and the window popped up to ask me whether to open it or save it. I selected to save it as I have done countless times before. As soon as I clicked that, the window popped up asking

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.0 and oldconfig

2011-07-23 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Saturday, July 23 at 05:33 (-0500), Dale said: But sometimes major changes can fix things and do things completely different which can lead to other issues being fixed. Seamonkey did the same when they did their major redo. Bad thing is, the kernel panics are at it again. I had a

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo, new computer, still a bit confused

2011-07-23 Thread Mick
On Saturday 23 Jul 2011 07:25:42 Mike Edenfield wrote: On 7/22/2011 9:53 PM, CJoeB wrote: Because this will be a new computer and I may essentially void the warranty if I alter the pre-configuration, I seriously thought about leaving the status quo and putting up with Windows 7. However, I

Re: [gentoo-user] No keyboard or mouse with X after upgrade

2011-07-23 Thread Mick
On Saturday 23 Jul 2011 03:53:44 Jeff Cranmer wrote: On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 22:39 -0400, Jeff Cranmer wrote: On Sat, 2011-07-23 at 10:18 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 22:00 -0400, Jeff Cranmer wrote: Hi All, I recently ran an emerge -NDuav on my system and

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo, new computer, still a bit confused

2011-07-23 Thread Philip Webb
You've had some very good advice from Mike + Mick, but you can have a bit more re-assurance from me. You shouldn't have a warranty problem if you keep Windows 7 installed. For that, you can easily install Gentoo alongside it. I did that with my Asus netbook, which came with XP : I got XP to tell

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo, new computer, still a bit confused

2011-07-23 Thread CJoeB
On 07/22/11 23:07, Mark Knecht wrote: On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 6:53 PM, CJoeB colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, Because this will be a new computer and I may essentially void the warranty if I alter the pre-configuration, I seriously thought about leaving the status quo and

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't find reiser4 patch for kernel-2.6.39

2011-07-23 Thread Stroller
On 21 July 2011, at 00:32, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: ... I really do not care about your esteem for me. Or what anybody else on this list think about me. If you don't care that you offend people here on a regular basis, then you have no right to be offended by others. So just shut up.

Re: [gentoo-user] New computer and Gentoo

2011-07-23 Thread Stroller
On 22 July 2011, at 07:45, Florian Philipp wrote: Every native setting is just resolved by gcc at compile time to some concrete setting like core2. Perfectly correct. On 21 July 2011, at 15:05, Florian Philipp wrote: ... (unless, of course, if the GCC guys get their switch-case logic

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't kill Firefox!

2011-07-23 Thread Stroller
On 21 July 2011, at 19:48, Dale wrote: ... I would try to kill it as root. The -9 option should work. That hasn't failed me yet. I always run kill commands as root and DOUBLE check the PID after typing it in. I believe that `kill -9` is bad practice - doesn't it leave memory allocated

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't kill Firefox!

2011-07-23 Thread Todd Goodman
* Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk [110723 09:21]: On 21 July 2011, at 19:48, Dale wrote: ... I would try to kill it as root. The -9 option should work. That hasn't failed me yet. I always run kill commands as root and DOUBLE check the PID after typing it in. I believe

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.0 and oldconfig

2011-07-23 Thread Dale
Albert Hopkins wrote: On Saturday, July 23 at 05:33 (-0500), Dale said: But sometimes major changes can fix things and do things completely different which can lead to other issues being fixed. Seamonkey did the same when they did their major redo. Bad thing is, the kernel panics are at

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel panics and more info

2011-07-23 Thread Dale
YoYo Siska wrote: On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 12:22:32PM -0500, Dale wrote: ... using either. I clicked on the link to download and the window popped up to ask me whether to open it or save it. I selected to save it as I have done countless times before. As soon as I clicked that, the window

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't kill Firefox!

2011-07-23 Thread Mick
On Saturday 23 Jul 2011 14:31:23 Todd Goodman wrote: * Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk [110723 09:21]: On 21 July 2011, at 19:48, Dale wrote: ... I would try to kill it as root. The -9 option should work. That hasn't failed me yet. I always run kill commands as root and

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo, new computer, still a bit confused

2011-07-23 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 7/23/2011 7:47 AM, Mick wrote: On Saturday 23 Jul 2011 07:25:42 Mike Edenfield wrote: I seem to recall a case where a user wiped their drive clean and installed Ubuntu or some such. The laptop went faulty and the person asked for it to be repaired/replaced under warranty, only to be told

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't kill Firefox!

2011-07-23 Thread Todd Goodman
* Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [110723 10:20]: On Saturday 23 Jul 2011 14:31:23 Todd Goodman wrote: * Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk [110723 09:21]: On 21 July 2011, at 19:48, Dale wrote: ... I would try to kill it as root. The -9 option should work. That hasn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo, new computer, still a bit confused

2011-07-23 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Fri, Jul 22 2011, CJoeB wrote: Because this will be a new computer and I may essentially void the warranty if I alter the pre-configuration, I seriously thought about leaving the status quo and putting up with Windows 7. You have already received much good advice. I would add that dell

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo, new computer, still a bit confused

2011-07-23 Thread Mick
On Saturday 23 Jul 2011 14:28:32 CJoeB wrote: The thing is, I don't want Windows on the computer at all. My laptop is 4 years old and it was booted into Windows once and that was only because I didn't hit the F2 key fast enough to get into the bios to change the boot order. Then, Windows

Re: [gentoo-user] NEW idea: Kernel panics and more info

2011-07-23 Thread Dale
OK. New theory here. This came about in another thread about the shiney new kernel, that isn't new by the way. Anyway, look at this crap: root@fireball / # ls -al /home/dale/ total 640 drwxr-xr-x 61 dale users 2672 Jul 23 10:14 . drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 208 Jun 17 03:01 .. drwx--

Re: [gentoo-user] NEW idea: Kernel panics and more info

2011-07-23 Thread Mark Shields
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: OK. New theory here. This came about in another thread about the shiney new kernel, that isn't new by the way. Anyway, look at this crap: root@fireball / # ls -al /home/dale/ total 640 drwxr-xr-x 61 dale users 2672 Jul

Re: Re: [gentoo-user] NEW idea: Kernel panics and more info

2011-07-23 Thread Alex Schuster
Dale writes: OK. New theory here. This came about in another thread about the shiney new kernel, that isn't new by the way. Anyway, look at this crap: root@fireball / # ls -al /home/dale/ total 640 drwxr-xr-x 61 dale users 2672 Jul 23 10:14 . drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 208 Jun 17

Re: [gentoo-user] NEW idea: Kernel panics and more info

2011-07-23 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: Dale writes: OK. New theory here. This came about in another thread about the shiney new kernel, that isn't new by the way. Anyway, look at this crap: root@fireball / # ls -al /home/dale/ total 640 drwxr-xr-x 61 dale users 2672 Jul 23 10:14 . drwxr-xr-x 7 root

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo, new computer, still a bit confused

2011-07-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:55:11 -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: I'm actually speaking from experience here: the first thing I did on my Inspiron was wipe the HD and install Gentoo, only to learn that the wireless card was faulty. And since I could not run the standard Windows diagnostics they

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo, new computer, still a bit confused

2011-07-23 Thread Mick
On Saturday 23 Jul 2011 17:49:53 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:55:11 -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: I'm actually speaking from experience here: the first thing I did on my Inspiron was wipe the HD and install Gentoo, only to learn that the wireless card was faulty. And since I

Re: [gentoo-user] NEW idea: Kernel panics and more info

2011-07-23 Thread Dale
I think I typed in something wrong and sort of made a mess of it. I had to copy a backup file for group and passwd to get things working again. Here is what I have right now: root@fireball / # cat /etc/passwd root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash bin:x:1:1:bin:/bin:/bin/false

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel panics and more info

2011-07-23 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 09:45:07AM -0500, Dale wrote: YoYo Siska wrote: I guess it starts to download it to a temp file, than moves it to the file you choose (never looked into it)... so the problem would be most likely in that operation.. I just find it downright odd that a browser causes a

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't kill Firefox!

2011-07-23 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Saturday 23 July 2011 09:28:43 Mick wrote: Well, have a look at http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu- b...@lists.ubuntu.com/msg1483058.html for an example how the open source atidrivers can hang X with firefox. Note that compositing was enabled here (compiz). And here's another one:

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't kill Firefox!

2011-07-23 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Saturday 23 July 2011 10:24:17 Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 22.07.2011 21:20, schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer: Maybe because you did not enable compositing in xfce4, but use it with kde4? No, disabling composition is the first thing I do. Ah, thanks. Without a backtrace it's hard to tell

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.0 and oldconfig

2011-07-23 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Saturday, July 23 at 09:35 (-0500), Dale said: Albert Hopkins wrote: [...] Anyway, here's something... did you actually report a bug? If a tree falls in the forest... I haven't filed a bug because at the moment we have not been able to figure out exactly what is causing

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel panics and more info

2011-07-23 Thread Dale
Willie Wong wrote: On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 09:45:07AM -0500, Dale wrote: YoYo Siska wrote: I guess it starts to download it to a temp file, than moves it to the file you choose (never looked into it)... so the problem would be most likely in that operation.. I just find

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo, new computer, still a bit confused

2011-07-23 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 7/23/2011 12:49 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:55:11 -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: I'm actually speaking from experience here: the first thing I did on my Inspiron was wipe the HD and install Gentoo, only to learn that the wireless card was faulty. And since I could not run

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.0 and oldconfig

2011-07-23 Thread Dale
Albert Hopkins wrote: On Saturday, July 23 at 09:35 (-0500), Dale said: Albert Hopkins wrote: [...] Anyway, here's something... did you actually report a bug? If a tree falls in the forest... I haven't filed a bug because at the moment we have not been able to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel panics and more info

2011-07-23 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 23 July 2011 19:45:50 Dale wrote: I have tested all sorts of things including running memtest. Which version? The latest in Gentoo predates the introduction of support (whatever that is) for the i-5 and i-7 CPUs. That was version 4.19 if I remember aright. You can get the latest

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel panics and more info

2011-07-23 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 23 July 2011 19:45:50 Dale wrote: I have tested all sorts of things including running memtest. Which version? The latest in Gentoo predates the introduction of support (whatever that is) for the i-5 and i-7 CPUs. That was version 4.19 if I remember

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel panics and more info

2011-07-23 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 23 July 2011 20:46:41 Dale wrote: I have a AMD CPU. Just not a Intel guy. Oh, sorry. My mistake. -- Rgds Peter Linux Counter number 5290

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel panics and more info

2011-07-23 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 23 July 2011 20:46:41 Dale wrote: I have a AMD CPU. Just not a Intel guy. Oh, sorry. My mistake. No problem. If you hadn't mentioned it, I would have been sitting on one that the test don't work on. lol Dale :-) :-)

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo, new computer, still a bit confused

2011-07-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-07-23, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: If things break you'll have to replace components yourself - to be honest unless a CPU/MoBo goes bad on you it is relatively cheap to by a drive or PSU these days. If something breaks (aside from the hard drive), send it in for repair

[gentoo-user] [HEADS UP] New kernel version 3.0 breaks build of latest python updates

2011-07-23 Thread walt
This will affect (I think) only ~arch users. If you are running the new linux kernel version 3.0, you will find that today's update of python will fail with the error plat-linux2 not found. That's because the python configure scripts will detect the version 3 kernel and will try to use

Re: [gentoo-user] [HEADS UP] New kernel version 3.0 breaks build of latest python updates

2011-07-23 Thread Dale
walt wrote: This will affect (I think) only ~arch users. If you are running the new linux kernel version 3.0, you will find that today's update of python will fail with the error plat-linux2 not found. That's because the python configure scripts will detect the version 3 kernel and will try to

Re: [gentoo-user] mysqld invoked oom-killer

2011-07-23 Thread Grant
...        Next I'd look at tuning your Mysql config. If you've never touched my.cnf, by default it's set to use 64MB IIRC. You may need to raise this to get better performance. key_buffer and innodb_buffer_pool_size are the only two I'd modify without knowing more. kashani I'm running

Re: [gentoo-user] [HEADS UP] New kernel version 3.0 breaks build of latest python updates

2011-07-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 23 July 2011 16:32:39 Dale did opine thusly: walt wrote: This will affect (I think) only ~arch users. If you are running the new linux kernel version 3.0, you will find that today's update of python will fail with the error plat-linux2 not found. That's because the

Re: [gentoo-user] [HEADS UP] New kernel version 3.0 breaks build of latest python updates

2011-07-23 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 23 July 2011 16:32:39 Dale did opine thusly: walt wrote: This will affect (I think) only ~arch users. If you are running the new linux kernel version 3.0, you will find that today's update of python will fail with the error plat-linux2 not found.

Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade query

2011-07-23 Thread john
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:01:31 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thursday 21 July 2011 10:01:10 j...@jdm.myzen.co.uk wrote: A little advice please? I am about to build a new box going from athlon dual core to phenom six core. Including new sata drives and

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo, new computer, still a bit confused

2011-07-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 23 July 2011 16:11:20 Mick did opine thusly: So, if I choose the amd64 iso and Stage 3, it doesn't have to be on an AMD machine? Correct, you will use this iso (or systemrescueCD or Knoppix) and a Staqe 3 equivalent to build a system on an Intel 64bit CPU. Just to flesh it

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo, new computer, still a bit confused

2011-07-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 23 July 2011 18:35:20 Mick did opine thusly: On Saturday 23 Jul 2011 17:49:53 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:55:11 -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: I'm actually speaking from experience here: the first thing I did on my Inspiron was wipe the HD and install Gentoo,

[gentoo-user] Re: [HEADS UP] New kernel version 3.0 breaks build of latest python updates

2011-07-23 Thread walt
On 07/23/2011 02:09 PM, walt wrote: To finish today's update of python2 and python3, just boot with any kernel-2.6.x and repeat the python update. Well, not just any kernel-2.6.x. Python needs the kernel sources for your 2.6.x kernel to be installed and configured. And (maybe) needs the

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo, new computer, still a bit confused

2011-07-23 Thread CJoeB
On 07/23/11 18:24, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 23 July 2011 16:11:20 Mick did opine thusly: So, if I choose the amd64 iso and Stage 3, it doesn't have to be on an AMD machine? Correct, you will use this iso (or systemrescueCD or Knoppix) and a Staqe 3 equivalent to build a system on an

[gentoo-user] Error on freemind execution

2011-07-23 Thread akio.tam...@gmail.com
Hello, Just emerged freemind package and installation was fine, but when I try to run freemind it gives me the error as follows: $ freemind Looking for user properties: /home/akio/.freemind/user.properties User properties found. Default (System) Look Feel:

[gentoo-user] root fs moved, but no init

2011-07-23 Thread Adam Carter
Summary; Copied / from sda3 to sdb3 Updated the fstab in the new disk (/dev/sdb3 / btrfs noatime,compress=lzo0 0) Updated the kernel line's root=/dev/sda3 to /dev/sdb3 in grub.conf, but left the root (hd0,0) as it is. So, kernel is loaded from sda but init should run from sdb.

Re: [gentoo-user] mysqld invoked oom-killer

2011-07-23 Thread Grant
... If my main rig starts using swap a lot, I'm going to be very curious.  I even used 8Gbs to put portages work directory on tmpfs.  I still didn't use any swap.  By the way, that doesn't seem to make the compiles any faster.  o_O CPU bottleneck? - Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] mysqld invoked oom-killer

2011-07-23 Thread Grant
... That all makes perfect sense.  So the reason a swap larger than maybe 1GB is not usually implemented is because idle processes don't normally have more than a few hundred MB of pages in memory? That's not entirely true, either.  For example, My laptop has 4GB of swap. Why?  Well, because

Re: [gentoo-user] Error on freemind execution

2011-07-23 Thread Srdjan Rakic
It looks like freemind looks for Look and Feel properties in /home/akio/.freemind/user.properties. user.properties is set to use java swing GTK library (GTK.LookAndFeel). Not sure how exactly that works but that is my guess. You might want to backup user.properties file and try to edit it

Re: [gentoo-user] Error on freemind execution

2011-07-23 Thread akio.tam...@gmail.com
Hi Srdjan, Thank you, but *user.**properties* has all lines commented so I believe it is not the cause of this issue... USE=-gtk does not make any difference as well. Anyway I will keep trying to find out what is wrong... Regards, On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Srdjan Rakic srk...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] eselect for managing virtuals

2011-07-23 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote: However, what you want can still be done without touching the ebuilds because it would really just be an alias for `emerge --one-shot new_alternative emerge --depclean old_alternative revdep-rebuild` (in the easiest, non-blocking case). No,