On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:58 PM, 东方巽雷 dongfangxun...@gmail.com wrote:
I need to change some arguments in Makefile.
AFAIK, there is no way to pause the emerging and resume it.
Emerging is like a transaction. You need to write your own ebuild file,
maybe add a additional patch.
--
Silence is
if the package uses autoconf/automake:
ebuild /usr/portage/cat/pkg/pkg-ver.ebuild configure
[edit Makefile]
touch /var/tmp/portage/cat//pkg-ver/.configured
ebuild /usr/portage/cat/pkg/pkg-ver.ebuild install
I think it would be easier to put the package in an overlay and edit the ebuild.
2013/8/19 东方巽雷 dongfangxun...@gmail.com:
I need to change some arguments in Makefile.
You might want to use a low-level interface to the Portage system 'ebuild':
ebuild path/to/package.ebuild fetch
ebuild path/to/package.ebuild unpack
===make you changes here (where unpacked, in /tmp)===
ebuild
good! Thank you.
2013/8/19 Alexey Mishustin shum...@shumkar.ru
2013/8/19 东方巽雷 dongfangxun...@gmail.com:
I need to change some arguments in Makefile.
You might want to use a low-level interface to the Portage system 'ebuild':
ebuild path/to/package.ebuild fetch
ebuild
On 19/08/2013 05:42, Daniel Campbell wrote:
As a budding programmer I understand that a lot of the functionality
that users take for granted in sysvinit scripts is hacked together and
prone to bash upgrades breaking them
sysvinit scripts have ended up where almost every large project that
On 19/08/2013 06:52, Wang Xuerui wrote:
2013/8/19 东方巽雷 dongfangxun...@gmail.com:
libreoffice-bin needs older icu version,libreoffice need so much time to
compile
libreoffice-bin (at this time only 4.0.4.2 is present) requests
icu/51.1, while the latest is slotted 51.2. I don't know of any
When trying to eject a USB camera in thunar in xfce4, the error appears
and the device
does not umount. Here is a command that also produces the error:
# udisks --detach /dev/sdb Detach failed: Error detaching: helper exited
with exit code
1: Detaching device /dev/sdb USB device:
On 19/08/2013 09:17, Grant wrote:
When trying to eject a USB camera in thunar in xfce4, the error appears
and the device
does not umount. Here is a command that also produces the error:
# udisks --detach /dev/sdb Detach failed: Error detaching: helper
exited with exit code
1: Detaching
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
When trying to eject a USB camera in thunar in xfce4, the error appears
and the device
does not umount. Here is a command that also produces the error:
# udisks --detach /dev/sdb Detach failed: Error detaching: helper
On 08/19/2013 12:52 AM, Mark David Dumlao wrote:
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:54 AM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote:
On 2013-08-18 23:08, Mick wrote:
I honestly cannot understand why we/Gentoo are allowing the RHL
monolithic development philosophy to break what we have. Is
Poettering the only
2013/8/19 东方巽雷 dongfangxun...@gmail.com:
good! Thank you.
Manually executing phases of ebuild is certainly not a long-term
solution; changes won't persist on the next build.
You'd better patch the ebuild's src_configure section (before you
forget your exact modifications), then put them into
2013/8/19 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com:
NOT upgrading icu on a whim also comes with massive user benefits:
such as, for example, NOT having to rebuild every damn huge piece of
software on the box every other week just coz icu decided to change how
something is done and shove it into
When trying to eject a USB camera in thunar in xfce4, the error
appears and the device
does not umount. Here is a command that also produces the error:
# udisks --detach /dev/sdb Detach failed: Error detaching: helper
exited with exit code
1: Detaching device /dev/sdb USB device:
On 19/08/2013 10:25, Grant wrote:
When trying to eject a USB camera in thunar in xfce4, the error
appears and the device
does not umount. Here is a command that also produces the error:
# udisks --detach /dev/sdb Detach failed: Error detaching: helper
exited with exit code
1: Detaching
On 19/08/2013 10:10, Wang Xuerui wrote:
2013/8/19 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com:
NOT upgrading icu on a whim also comes with massive user benefits:
such as, for example, NOT having to rebuild every damn huge piece of
software on the box every other week just coz icu decided to change
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 16:00:28 +0800, Wang Xuerui wrote:
You'd better patch the ebuild's src_configure section (before you
forget your exact modifications), then put them into your overlay; If
you don't have an overlay already, it's a good opportunity to create
one.
If the ebuild supports
On 18 August 2013, at 15:16, pk wrote:
...
1. Most of the time spent when cold booting is spent in the BIOS/UEFI
cycle (around 30 seconds), the time from grub display to login (I'm
using slim) is 5 seconds (max).
Blimey! You must have a slow BIOS cycle.
I mean, maybe my servers take that
On 19/08/2013 11:21, Stroller wrote:
On 18 August 2013, at 15:16, pk wrote:
...
1. Most of the time spent when cold booting is spent in the BIOS/UEFI
cycle (around 30 seconds), the time from grub display to login (I'm
using slim) is 5 seconds (max).
Blimey! You must have a slow BIOS
On 2013-08-19 00:49, Dale wrote:
Picking random message sort of. Isn't eudev still going to support a
separate /usr? That is my understanding. If eudev is not then I may
have to reconsider some things myself here.
Yes, that is my understanding as well. But the decision to not support
a
When trying to eject a USB camera in thunar in xfce4, the error
appears and the device
does not umount. Here is a command that also produces the error:
# udisks --detach /dev/sdb Detach failed: Error detaching: helper
exited with exit code
1: Detaching device /dev/sdb USB device:
On 19/08/2013 11:43, Grant wrote:
When trying to eject a USB camera in thunar in xfce4, the error
appears and the device
does not umount. Here is a command that also produces the error:
# udisks --detach /dev/sdb Detach failed: Error detaching: helper
exited with exit code
1: Detaching
pk wrote:
On 2013-08-19 00:49, Dale wrote:
Picking random message sort of. Isn't eudev still going to support a
separate /usr? That is my understanding. If eudev is not then I may
have to reconsider some things myself here.
Yes, that is my understanding as well. But the decision to not
Hi,
what binaries and libraries have to be put into an initramfs for a
system
booting with init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd ?
(I am building the initramsfs myself)
Thanks for some hints,
Helmut
On 19/08/2013 11:31, pk wrote:
On 2013-08-19 00:49, Dale wrote:
Picking random message sort of. Isn't eudev still going to support a
separate /usr? That is my understanding. If eudev is not then I may
have to reconsider some things myself here.
Yes, that is my understanding as well.
On 19 August 2013, at 10:31, pk wrote:
... The problem I have, as an engineer, is
that everybody says that a separate /usr is broken, that sysvinit is
broken without explaining why. In order to fix a problem you need to
know what is broken...
Here's a short, very in-comprehensive list
2013/8/19 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com:
webkit* updates have slowed down recently so I'm not too bothered about
that. But chromium, that thing drive me to tears, now I just use
google-chrome.
Well, I choose to temporarily mask chromium if I don't have the time.
I have a
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19/08/2013 11:31, pk wrote:
On 2013-08-19 00:49, Dale wrote:
Picking random message sort of. Isn't eudev still going to support a
separate /usr? That is my understanding. If eudev is not then I may
have to
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:17:06 +0100, Stroller wrote:
Here's a short, very in-comprehensive list of software we are aware
of that currently are not able to provide the full set of functionality
when /usr is split off and not pre-mounted at boot:
udev-pci-db/udev-usb-db and all rules
2013/8/18 东方巽雷 dongfangxun...@gmail.com:
I download LibreOffice_4.1.0_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz from
https://www.libreoffice.org/download/ and extract all the deb files.My
desktop is KDE,but libreoffice only uses gtk+ theme.
How should I find out the problem?
Oh... upon further reading of your
On 2013-08-19 08:35, Alan McKinnon wrote:
sysvinit, like X11, needs a massive overhaul and a sprint clean.
Yes, an overhaul is always welcome. But most people criticising these
systems (and other systems) just say that they are bad without pointing
out what is bad. How can you fix something
On 19/08/2013 14:13, pk wrote:
sysvinit, like X11, needs a massive overhaul and a sprint clean.
Yes, an overhaul is always welcome. But most people criticising these
systems (and other systems) just say that they are bad without pointing
out what is bad. How can you fix something without
On 2013-08-19 04:55, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
Probably for exactly the same reason you or anyone else uses Gentoo;
USE flags, portage, you can customize at your hearts content...
USE flags, in my mind, are there for minimising dependencies so that I
don't need to install all the crap that
On 2013-08-19 6:04 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
It's not that separate /usr is broken - it's not.
The issue is a separate /usr without an initramfs. And the issue ONLY
occurs at early-boot time.
And so, if this is the way it goes, this is the way it goes.
As long as I can
On 2013-08-18 10:55 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
And, putting aside systemd and getting back on topic to the council's
decision of (eventually) not supporting separated /usr without an
initramfs; have you ever stopped to consider that, perhaps, that's the
best *technical*
On 19/08/13 18:55, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:17:06 +0100, Stroller wrote:
Here's a short, very in-comprehensive list of software we are aware
of that currently are not able to provide the full set of functionality
when /usr is split off and not pre-mounted at boot:
On 19/08/2013 15:23, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2013-08-19 6:04 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
It's not that separate /usr is broken - it's not.
The issue is a separate /usr without an initramfs. And the issue ONLY
occurs at early-boot time.
And so, if this is the way it goes,
On 19/08/2013 15:36, William Kenworthy wrote:
I still have not seen an adequate explanation as to why systemd isn't a
profile as its far more intrusive than a gnome/kde choice and they have
profiles. That way some bad choices like polluting systems with systemd
files because they are only
On 2013-08-19 11:21, Stroller wrote:
Blimey! You must have a slow BIOS cycle.
Yes, I bought the motherboard specifically for a slow BIOS cycle... ;-)
Joke aside, I have a SAS raid card in the machine which probes the
harddrives (four mechanical ones) which takes maybe half that time. I've
been
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2013-08-18 10:55 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
And, putting aside systemd and getting back on topic to the council's
decision of (eventually) not supporting separated /usr without an
initramfs;
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Alecks Gates aleck...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2013-08-18 10:55 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
And, putting aside systemd and getting back on topic to the council's
On 2013-08-19 12:04, Alan McKinnon wrote:
It's not that separate /usr is broken - it's not.
I know.
The issue is a separate /usr without an initramfs. And the issue ONLY
occurs at early-boot time.
It is broken for *some* systems.
The problem is that with modern hardware much code that was
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Alon Bar-Lev alo...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Alecks Gates aleck...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2013-08-18 10:55 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
And,
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Alecks Gates aleck...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Alon Bar-Lev alo...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Alecks Gates aleck...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org
wrote:
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Helmut Jarausch
jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
Hi,
what binaries and libraries have to be put into an initramfs for a system
booting with init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd ?
(I am building the initramsfs myself)
You need to get your root filesystem and /usr
On 08/19/2013 10:58 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
Hi,
what binaries and libraries have to be put into an initramfs for a system
booting with init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd ?
(I am building the initramsfs myself)
Thanks for some hints,
Helmut
my 2c would be to autobuild one using genkernel or
On 08/19/2013 03:37 PM, Alecks Gates wrote:
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Alon Bar-Lev alo...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Alecks Gates aleck...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org
wrote:
On 2013-08-18 10:55 PM, Canek
On 2013-08-19 9:36 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
For me, I'm not opposed to merging /usr. I'm not opposed to other people
using systemd, I am opposed to*me* using it.
Agreed, and that is precisely the concern here...
For your other question, you don't need an initramfs if
On 2013-08-19 9:36 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote:
I rather suspect that they are going after the cloud/VM market ...
having VM's boot quickly and simply along with no desire/need to fault
find and repair ... just rm it and spin up another instance.
Nothing to 'suspect'... they
On 19/08/13 at 09:36pm, William Kenworthy wrote:
So why not a profile so those guys who want to play can get a
configuration that better suits them? - and vice versa if the whole
systemd push dies and Redhat drops it as I doubt anyone else big enough
will pick it up (they have a foot in both
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:17 AM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote:
On 2013-08-19 04:55, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
Probably for exactly the same reason you or anyone else uses Gentoo;
USE flags, portage, you can customize at your hearts content...
USE flags, in my mind, are there for minimising
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2013-08-19 9:36 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote:
I rather suspect that they are going after the cloud/VM market ...
having VM's boot quickly and simply along with no desire/need to fault
find and
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2013-08-18 10:55 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
And, putting aside systemd and getting back on topic to the council's
decision of (eventually) not supporting separated /usr without an
initramfs;
Hi,
I tried to emerge 7zip natively on a Beaglebone black.
Which CPU is a ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l) with the
features swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp thumbee neon vfpv3 tls.
The gcc is:
gcc (Gentoo 4.6.3 p1.13, pie-0.5.2) 4.6.3
Copyright (C) 2011 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free
On 2013-08-19 19:05, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
snipped a whole lot of bollocks
I'm beginning to think you are a troll since you consistently
misinterpret what I'm trying to say. This is the last thing I will say
in this matter: Your technical arguments are bogus. Yes, I agree that
my point is
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:55 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote:
On 2013-08-19 19:05, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
snipped a whole lot of bollocks
I'm beginning to think you are a troll since you consistently
misinterpret what I'm trying to say. This is the last thing I will say
in this matter:
On Mon, August 19, 2013 12:55, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:17:06 +0100, Stroller wrote:
Here's a short, very in-comprehensive list of software we are aware
of that currently are not able to provide the full set of functionality
when /usr is split off and not pre-mounted at
On 19/08/2013 19:03, Yohan Pereira wrote:
On 19/08/13 at 09:36pm, William Kenworthy wrote:
So why not a profile so those guys who want to play can get a
configuration that better suits them? - and vice versa if the whole
systemd push dies and Redhat drops it as I doubt anyone else big enough
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19/08/2013 14:13, pk wrote:
sysvinit, like X11, needs a massive overhaul and a sprint clean.
Yes, an overhaul is always welcome. But most people criticising these
systems (and other systems) just say that they are bad without
pointing
out what is
On 19/08/2013 16:20, Alecks Gates wrote:
Can someone please explain to me what's so hard and/or complicated
about making an initramfs? At this point in time it's extremely
simple for me, but I only manage relatively simple systems (although
I'd like that to change soon). All I do is add one
On 19/08/2013 22:32, jo...@antarean.org wrote:
X11, well that's another story and probably way off topic. It was
designed for hardware and architectures that haven't existed for 20+
years. Almost all factors that made X11 awesome in the 80s and 90s
simply are not there anymore.
X11 was still
On 19/08/2013 18:39, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2013-08-19 9:36 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
For me, I'm not opposed to merging /usr. I'm not opposed to other people
using systemd, I am opposed to*me* using it.
Agreed, and that is precisely the concern here...
For your other
On 19/08/2013 16:33, pk wrote:
Using an initramfs means you duplicate parts of your OS and copy them
into the kernel or using a tool (like dracut or genkernel). If you need
it from a technical point of view (bluetooth keyboard), that's fine but
if I don't have any hardware that requires it
On 19/08/13 22:20, Alecks Gates wrote:
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
...
Can someone please explain to me what's so hard and/or complicated
about making an initramfs? At this point in time it's extremely
simple for me, but I only manage
Hi all,
For the duration of my MSc thesis (and for my job) I have lent a laptop from my
university. This laptop happens to be a 2007 model Macbook (plus a new SSD,
since somebody else has the original drive because his data is still on there),
and chances are slim that I will be able to lend a
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:30:16 +0300, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
The files within the initramfs generation tool are compiled using
different tool than portage, they are not updated when distribution is
updated, and they are not even at same version within portage tree.
It may be acceptable for
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:11:46 +0100, thegeezer wrote:
i almost would like to request tighter integration between
portage/kernel building/initrd
The kernel build system can also build the initramfs if you give it the
location of the config file. That way the initramfs is built for each
kernel,
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 22:51:38 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I'm also lucky in that when I managed to foist all the oracle with java
installers off onto some other team of luckless suckers, I was left with
just the best remote interface ever - ssh and bash. So I can afford to
be smug :-)
Those
I used Linux on a couple of different MacBooks. Usually I had the best
experience not using rEFInd as an intermediate layer, but as the EFI
boot loader loading the kernel file directly. My setup is based on the
ArchLinux Wiki article about it. Every time you update your kernel, you
just need to
J. Roeleveld wrote:
On Mon, August 19, 2013 12:55, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:17:06 +0100, Stroller wrote:
Here's a short, very in-comprehensive list of software we are aware
of that currently are not able to provide the full set of functionality
when /usr is split off
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
On 08/19/2013 12:52 AM, Mark David Dumlao wrote:
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:54 AM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote:
On 2013-08-18 23:08, Mick wrote:
I honestly cannot understand why we/Gentoo are allowing the RHL
During upgrade a got a message:
!! The following installed packages are masked:
- dev-lang/python-3.1.5-r1::gentoo (masked by: package.mask)
/usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
# Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org (07 Aug 2013)
# These outdated versions of Python are no longer updated or maintained
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
J. Roeleveld wrote:
On Mon, August 19, 2013 12:55, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:17:06 +0100, Stroller wrote:
Here's a short, very in-comprehensive list of software we are
aware
of that currently are not able to provide the full set of
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 08:55:35PM -0600, Joseph wrote
During upgrade a got a message:
!! The following installed packages are masked:
- dev-lang/python-3.1.5-r1::gentoo (masked by: package.mask)
/usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
# Micha?? Górny mgo...@gentoo.org (07 Aug 2013)
# These
On 8/19/2013 21:55, Joseph wrote:
During upgrade a got a message:
!! The following installed packages are masked:
- dev-lang/python-3.1.5-r1::gentoo (masked by: package.mask)
/usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
# Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org (07 Aug 2013)
# These outdated versions of Python
On Mon, August 19, 2013 23:24, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 19/08/2013 16:33, pk wrote:
Using an initramfs means you duplicate parts of your OS and copy them
into the kernel or using a tool (like dracut or genkernel). If you need
it from a technical point of view (bluetooth keyboard), that's fine
On Mon, August 19, 2013 22:51, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 19/08/2013 22:32, jo...@antarean.org wrote:
X11, well that's another story and probably way off topic. It was
designed for hardware and architectures that haven't existed for 20+
years. Almost all factors that made X11 awesome in the 80s
On Tue, August 20, 2013 00:33, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 22:51:38 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I'm also lucky in that when I managed to foist all the oracle with java
installers off onto some other team of luckless suckers, I was left with
just the best remote interface ever -
On 17/08/13 22:00, Grant wrote:
This is actually a portage question. How can I install udisks-2 in a
way that will fix this problem? I'm confused by how to handle the
slotting behavior.
I think the issue here is that we are not understanding what the
problem is. It happens with an
On Tue, August 20, 2013 00:20, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:11:46 +0100, thegeezer wrote:
i almost would like to request tighter integration between
portage/kernel building/initrd
The kernel build system can also build the initramfs if you give it the
location of the config
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