[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo and texlive

2016-02-09 Thread walt
On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 17:51:42 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Welcome back! Did you finish all your trabajo with your PhD and tenure, etc?

Re: [gentoo-user] HP Elitebook 2540p

2016-02-09 Thread siefke_lis...@web.de
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 21:34:06 + Neil Bothwick wrote: > The use of discard is discouraged in many places, because it can > impact performance. Running fstrim weekly from cron, at a time things > are quiet, is generally preferred. Okay, i change now the option in fstab and installed the cronjob

Re: [gentoo-user] HP Elitebook 2540p

2016-02-09 Thread wabenbau
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 21:42:05 +0100, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > For SSD must set special option in kernel config? > > > > No. > > > > But you should insert the "discard" option into /etc/fstab. > > Otherwise you have to use fstrim from time to time. > > The use

Re: [gentoo-user] HP Elitebook 2540p

2016-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 21:42:05 +0100, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > > For SSD must set special option in kernel config? > > No. > > But you should insert the "discard" option into /etc/fstab. > Otherwise you have to use fstrim from time to time. The use of discard is discouraged in many places,

Re: [gentoo-user] HP Elitebook 2540p

2016-02-09 Thread wabenbau
"siefke_lis...@web.de" wrote: > For SSD must set special option in kernel config? No. But you should insert the "discard" option into /etc/fstab. Otherwise you have to use fstrim from time to time. -- Regards wabe

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 11:42:55 -0600, Jc García wrote: > >> It is my overwhelming concern. NO systemd. > >> All else is optional. Where's that setting? > > > > The hierarchy is package.use > make.conf > profile > I forgot USE as environment variable, so: > USE(env) > package.use > make.conf > pr

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 17:55:54 + (UTC), James wrote: > > > The hierarchy is package.use > make.conf > profile > > I forgot USE as environment variable, so: > > USE(env) > package.use > make.conf > profile > > Hmmm. Remember I posted that this package.use setting besides > make.conf -system

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 09 Feb 2016 17:55:54 James wrote: > Jc García gmail.com> writes: > > >> What I'm > > >> missing is why the "-systemd" setting in make.conf did not overrule > > >> these missteps? Is there way to set something, anything anywhere > > >> what no packages with require systemd can be insta

[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread James
Jc García gmail.com> writes: > >> What I'm > >> missing is why the "-systemd" setting in make.conf did not overrule > >> these missteps? Is there way to set something, anything anywhere > >> what no packages with require systemd can be installed. > > The hierarchy is package.use > make.conf >

[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread James
Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > Mike and Neil help me:: rm /etc/portage/package.use/zzz-autounmask and I cleaned out package.unmask from autounmask that inserted systemd flag requirements. by deleting anything that had systemd as a flag setting forgot about those 2. dirty laundry stil

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Jc García
2016-02-09 11:39 GMT-06:00 Jc García : > 2016-02-09 11:31 GMT-06:00 James : > >> emerge -uDvtp @world >> shows just a few updates needed but nothing pulling in systemd. What I'm >> missing is why the "-systemd" setting in make.conf did not overrule >> these missteps? Is there way to set somethin

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Jc García
2016-02-09 11:31 GMT-06:00 James : > emerge -uDvtp @world > shows just a few updates needed but nothing pulling in systemd. What I'm > missing is why the "-systemd" setting in make.conf did not overrule > these missteps? Is there way to set something, anything anywhere > what no packages with r

[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread James
Mick gmail.com> writes: > James, the guidance has already been given. Can you please grep for systemd > ALL of your /etc/portage? There seems to be a USE flag set somewhere and this > is what is pulling in dbus *with* systemd. YES. I forgot Neil had told me to periodically remove this file:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Jc García
2016-02-09 11:28 GMT-06:00 Jc García : > 2016-02-09 11:21 GMT-06:00 James : > >> >> # grep -r systemd /etc/portage > ... >> /etc/portage/package.use/zzz-autounmask:>=sys-fs/udisks-2.1.4 systemd > > look at that file and that line why that was activated. and delete it, and change the useflags for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Jc García
2016-02-09 11:21 GMT-06:00 James : > > # grep -r systemd /etc/portage ... > /etc/portage/package.use/zzz-autounmask:>=sys-fs/udisks-2.1.4 systemd look at that file and that line why that was activated.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Jc García
2016-02-09 11:17 GMT-06:00 James : > Granted. But the point is it's my desktop. udisk cannot be removed without > changing the entire desktop. That a bit extreme. But if there is a cool, > minimialistic desktop (lxqt?) that avoids all derivative dependencies > on systemd && company, then that is v

[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread James
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes: > > emerge -uDtvp world reveals the same trouble:: > > > > [ebuild R] sys-apps/dbus-1.8.16::gentoo USE="X systemd* -debug > > -doc (-selinux) -static-libs {-test}" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 0 KiB > It also reveals the cause, not that you have us

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 09 Feb 2016 16:47:28 James wrote: > Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes: > > THIS is where you should be using -t, in the command that generates the > > output you are trying to explain. > > emerge -uDvtp @world > > These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: > > C

[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread James
Jc García gmail.com> writes: > > lxde-meta has no flag options to set, so this looks fixed. > > I guess I could change to another minimal desktop? > > > > I've been running this version of lxde-meta for about a year now > > and it has not been a problem before, at all, so I do not think > > this

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 16:27:34 + (UTC), James wrote: > Guidance? What's the replacement for udev? YES I am confounded. There isn't one really, just three different implementations. systemd: with udev included udev:standalone taken from systemd eudev: a fork of udev Oops, before walt kic

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Jc García
2016-02-09 10:50 GMT-06:00 James : > Jc García gmail.com> writes: > > >> It seems to me udisks is the package with the systemd USE flag >> activated that might be causing all the trouble, maybe automatically >> added by an autounmask by error, I would use grep to check the package >> use file(s),

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 16:40:47 + (UTC), James wrote: > emerge -uDtvp @world reveals the same trouble:: > > [ebuild R] sys-apps/dbus-1.8.16::gentoo USE="X systemd* -debug > -doc (-selinux) -static-libs {-test}" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 0 KiB > [ebuild N#]sys-apps/systemd-226-r

[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread James
Jc García gmail.com> writes: > It seems to me udisks is the package with the systemd USE flag > activated that might be causing all the trouble, maybe automatically > added by an autounmask by error, I would use grep to check the package > use file(s), to know wich useflags might have been activ

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 09/02/2016 18:13, James wrote: > Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes: > > >>> sys-apps/systemd is not even installed, but it shows up as a blocker? >>> gentoo-systemd-integration is not installed, but it's a blocker. > >> It's showing up because it is blocking your update, which means someth

[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread James
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes: > THIS is where you should be using -t, in the command that generates the > output you are trying to explain. emerge -uDvtp @world These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [nomerge ] sci-vis

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Jc García
2016-02-09 10:27 GMT-06:00 James : > James tampabay.rr.com> writes: > > >> > 2) Use --tree to see exactly what is pulling in the blockers, and why, >> > then deal with that. > > So I removed udisks gputils sdcc gimp > > emerge -uvtp world > > ebuild U ~] dev-vcs/git-2.7.1::gentoo > > yip

[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread James
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes: > > On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 16:13:10 + (UTC), James wrote: > > > > > sys-apps/systemd is not even installed, but it shows up as a > > > > blocker? gentoo-systemd-integration is not installed, but it's a > > > > blocker. > > > > > It's showing up because it

[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread James
James tampabay.rr.com> writes: > > 2) Use --tree to see exactly what is pulling in the blockers, and why, > > then deal with that. So I removed udisks gputils sdcc gimp emerge -uvtp world ebuild U ~] dev-vcs/git-2.7.1::gentoo yippee ? emerge -uDNvtp world Conflict: 3 blocks

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 16:13:10 + (UTC), James wrote: > > > sys-apps/systemd is not even installed, but it shows up as a > > > blocker? gentoo-systemd-integration is not installed, but it's a > > > blocker. > > > It's showing up because it is blocking your update, which means > > something you

[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread James
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes: > > sys-apps/systemd is not even installed, but it shows up as a blocker? > > gentoo-systemd-integration is not installed, but it's a blocker. > It's showing up because it is blocking your update, which means something > you are installing as part of that up

Re: [gentoo-user] HP Elitebook 2540p

2016-02-09 Thread siefke_lis...@web.de
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 02:40:59 +0100 wrote: > This is ok because this file is just a symlink. Yes this has saw now, hhh is my first amd64 system. > I never used genkernel so I don't know if your home directory is the I used genkernel only when i compile the gentoo kernel with all modules, but

Re: [gentoo-user] HP Elitebook 2540p

2016-02-09 Thread siefke_lis...@web.de
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 10:03:11 + Thomas Sigurdsen wrote: > Hoy, I'm currently on one Elitebook 2540p, it's an old one though > (something close to 7 years). I've attached my current kernel config. Yes old one, for me new cause i used since 2008 only atom netbooksm, now with ssd this system run

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 13:30:04 + (UTC), James wrote: > sys-apps/systemd is not even installed, but it shows up as a blocker? > gentoo-systemd-integration is not installed, but it's a blocker. It's showing up because it is blocking your update, which means something you are installing as part of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 09/02/2016 16:42, James wrote: > James tampabay.rr.com> writes: > > > Boy this just keeps getting stranger and stranger. > So I:: > > emerge -C sys-fs/udev > emerge eudev > > no problems, > > then in /etc/portage/package.mask I masked off:: > > sys-apps/systemd > sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-

[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread James
James tampabay.rr.com> writes: Boy this just keeps getting stranger and stranger. So I:: emerge -C sys-fs/udev emerge eudev no problems, then in /etc/portage/package.mask I masked off:: sys-apps/systemd sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration On a normal, routine update, I have about 6 packag

[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread James
Jc García gmail.com> writes: > > [blocks B ] sys-fs/eudev ("sys-fs/eudev" is blocking > > sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-4, sys-apps/systemd-226-r2) > > [blocks B ] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration > > ("sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration" is blocking sys-fs/udev-225, > > sys-

Re: [gentoo-user] udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Jc García
2016-02-08 20:53 GMT-06:00 James : > Hello, > > Well I have one system I need to migrate to eudev. All sorts of things are > now calling for *systemd* and I do not want that at all. > > Here is the blockers on the latest list :: > > [blocks B ] sys-fs/eudev ("sys-fs/eudev" is blocking > sys-ap

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers using deprecated...

2016-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 11:00:07 +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > > The idea is that users should ping developers with appropriate bug > > > reports. > > > > Instead, they ask in here or on the forums. Shouldn't the devs see > > such messages anyway and already be aware of the need to update the >

Re: [gentoo-user] TOR-Browser Bundle: And the rest was silence...

2016-02-09 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 09 Feb 2016 10:38:08 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 14:13:33 -0800 Willie Matthews wrote: > > On 02/06/2016 10:08 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I got a interesting problem: > > > > > > When using Firefox 44, I can watch Videos for > > > example from

Re: [gentoo-user] udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 02:53:53 + (UTC), James wrote: > Well I have one system I need to migrate to eudev. All sorts of things > are now calling for *systemd* and I do not want that at all. > > Here is the blockers on the latest list :: > > [blocks B ] sys-fs/eudev ("sys-fs/eudev" is blocki

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers using deprecated...

2016-02-09 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 10:00:40 + Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 12:38:45 +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > > > It's nothing to worry about, deprecated only mean is will be broken at > > > some time in the future, it still works for now. IMO ebuild QA > > > messages like this should no