Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: > On Monday, 4 February 2019 22:12:16 GMT Dale wrote: >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:59:02 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > One reason I use LastPass, it is mobile. I can go to someone else's > computer, use LastPass to say make use of Paypal, Newegg, Ebay etc,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 5:12 PM Dale wrote: >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:59:02 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> > One reason I use LastPass, it is mobile. I can go to someone else's > computer, use LastPass to say make use of Paypal, Newegg, Ebay

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Mick
On Monday, 4 February 2019 22:12:16 GMT Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:59:02 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > >>> One reason I use LastPass, it is mobile. I can go to someone else's > >>> computer, use LastPass to say make use of Paypal, Newegg, Ebay etc, > >>> logoff

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 5:12 PM Dale wrote: > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:59:02 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > >>> One reason I use LastPass, it is mobile. I can go to someone else's > >>> computer, use LastPass to say make use of Paypal, Newegg, Ebay etc, > >>> logoff and

Re: [gentoo-user] Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 04 Feb 2019 11:17:13 +, Mick wrote: > >>> https://xkcd.com/936/ >> Not strictly true ... the crackers would probably use rainbow tables >> attacks first. Also, it isn't fair to compare an 11 character passwd >> against a 25 character passwd. For the *same*

Re: [gentoo-user] Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Dale
Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2/4/2019, 12:47:35 AM, Dale wrote: >> Thing is, with today's computing power, it really isn't anymore. >> While no one could just guess it, it could be cracked/hacked I'm >> sure. I need to come up with a new one that meets the requirements I >> just mentioned. Strong,

Re: [gentoo-user] Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Roger J. H. Welsh
Hi Dale, On Sun, Feb 03, 2019 at 11:47:35PM -0600 , Dale wrote: > How do you, especially those who admin systems that are always being > hacked at, generate strong passwords that meet the above? I have a script for generating passwords the way I like (basically diceware on bash). Something

Re: [gentoo-user] VRFs / Jails / Containers

2019-02-04 Thread Grant Taylor
On 02/04/2019 02:58 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: So, I think we're miscommunicating a bit here... It happens. I'm saying that an init.d script shouldn't try to do anything other than initialize a service, which should be implemented outside the init.d script. It sounds like you are saying that

Re: [gentoo-user] VRFs / Jails / Containers

2019-02-04 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/4/19 5:10 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: Consider the following commands to start the ""container: ip netns add myContainer ip link add myContainer type veth peer name myHost netns myContainer ip link set myContainer up ip addr add 192.0.2.1/24 dev myContainer ip netns exec myContainer ip link

Re: [gentoo-user] Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2/4/2019, 12:47:35 AM, Dale wrote: > Thing is, with today's computing power, it really isn't anymore. > While no one could just guess it, it could be cracked/hacked I'm > sure. I need to come up with a new one that meets the requirements I > just mentioned. Strong, easy to remember, easy to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:59:02 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > >>> One reason I use LastPass, it is mobile. I can go to someone else's >>> computer, use LastPass to say make use of Paypal, Newegg, Ebay etc, >>> logoff and it is like I was never there. >> As much as I like

Re: [gentoo-user] VRFs / Jails / Containers

2019-02-04 Thread Rich Freeman
So, I think we're miscommunicating a bit here... On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 4:10 PM Grant Taylor wrote: > > On 02/04/2019 11:55 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > IMO I would separate your container logic from your service manager logic. > > I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "container logic" vs

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 3:09 PM Dale wrote: >> I'm not sure if one can convert that to NSA time or not. o_O The >> password contains upper/lower case letters, couple symbols from up top >> of the number keys and several numbers. None of which anyone would be >> able to

Re: [gentoo-user] VRFs / Jails / Containers

2019-02-04 Thread Grant Taylor
On 02/04/2019 11:55 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: IMO I would separate your container logic from your service manager logic. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "container logic" vs "service manager logic" and how they differ. I'm assuming that the former creates / destroys the container and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:59:02 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > > One reason I use LastPass, it is mobile. I can go to someone else's > > computer, use LastPass to say make use of Paypal, Newegg, Ebay etc, > > logoff and it is like I was never there. > > As much as I like Lastpass I would never do

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 3:49 PM Dale wrote: > > One reason I use LastPass, it is mobile. I can go to someone else's > computer, use LastPass to say make use of Paypal, Newegg, Ebay etc, > logoff and it is like I was never there. As much as I like Lastpass I would never do that. It isn't magic -

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 04 Feb 2019 14:38:38 -0500, Jack wrote: > The problem I have with many of these suggestions is that I have > multiple devices (two desktops, two laptops, tablet, android phone) I > use sufficiently often that I either need to be able to remember the > passwords or have some way of

Re: [gentoo-user] VRFs / Jails / Containers

2019-02-04 Thread Grant Taylor
On 02/03/2019 11:23 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: Ultimately netifrc is just a shell script that parses another shell script to construct a third shell script. I don't think doing it with only two shell scripts is that much less elegant =) The elegance, or lack there of, is not in the number of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Dale
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 04/02/2019 07:47, Dale wrote: >> How do you, especially those who admin systems that are always being >> hacked at, generate strong passwords that meet the above?  I've googled >> and found some ideas but if I use the same method, well, how many others >> are using

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 3:09 PM Dale wrote: > > I'm not sure if one can convert that to NSA time or not. o_O The > password contains upper/lower case letters, couple symbols from up top > of the number keys and several numbers. None of which anyone would be > able to guess in any way. They

[gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > <<< SNIP >>> > > How do you, especially those who admin systems that are always being > hacked at, generate strong passwords that meet the above?  I've googled > and found some ideas but if I use the same method, well, how many others > are using that same method, if you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Jack
On 2019.02.04 06:10, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 04/02/2019 07:47, Dale wrote: How do you, especially those who admin systems that are always being hacked at, generate strong passwords that meet the above?  I've googled and found some ideas but if I use the same method, well, how many

Re: [gentoo-user] VRFs / Jails / Containers

2019-02-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 1:44 PM Grant Taylor wrote: > > I'm starting to wonder if I'm going to be better off writing new scripts > that will match existing init scripts and their methodology to > (re)start/stop namespaces / containers / jails. Perhaps firejail will > give me what I want or

Re: [gentoo-user] Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Lee Clagett
On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 23:47:35 -0600 Dale wrote: > Howdy, > [...snip...] > > How do you, especially those who admin systems that are always being > hacked at, generate strong passwords that meet the above?  I've > googled and found some ideas but if I use the same method, well, how > many others

Re: [gentoo-user] VRFs / Jails / Containers

2019-02-04 Thread Grant Taylor
On 02/04/2019 09:23 AM, Laurence Perkins wrote: Have you tried firejail? It gives you convenient ways to set up the container parameters consistently and is in the repo. No, I have not. Thank you for the pointer. Its invocation is also simple enough to not clutter up your startup scripts.

Re: [gentoo-user] Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Laurence Perkins
On Sun, 2019-02-03 at 23:47 -0600, Dale wrote: > > > How do you, especially those who admin systems that are always being > hacked at, generate strong passwords that meet the above? I've > googled > and found some ideas but if I use the same method, well, how many > others > are using that

Re: [gentoo-user] VRFs / Jails / Containers

2019-02-04 Thread Laurence Perkins
On Sat, 2019-02-02 at 19:32 -0700, Grant Taylor wrote: > Does Gentoo have any support for VRFs or (chroot) Jails or > Containers > without going down the Docker (et al) path? > > I'm wanting to do some things with a Gentoo router that is trivial to > do > with network namespaces via manual

Re: [gentoo-user] Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 8:21 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 04 Feb 2019 11:17:13 +, Mick wrote: > > > > https://xkcd.com/936/ > > > > Not strictly true ... the crackers would probably use rainbow tables > > attacks first. Also, it isn't fair to compare an 11 character passwd > > against

Re: [gentoo-user] Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 04 Feb 2019 11:17:13 +, Mick wrote: > > https://xkcd.com/936/ > > Not strictly true ... the crackers would probably use rainbow tables > attacks first. Also, it isn't fair to compare an 11 character passwd > against a 25 character passwd. For the *same* number of characters >

Re: [gentoo-user] Is my NVME too slow?

2019-02-04 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Helmut. On Mon, Feb 04, 2019 at 12:01:33 +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > I have a very fast Samsung NVME drive hosting my root file system. > During backup 'atop' often shows 100% usage of my NVME drive while > reading only a few MB/s and > several thousands 'Read' ops (during 10

[gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 04/02/2019 13:17, Mick wrote: You will be surprised how many people are still using passwds like: password password1 arsenal manchesterunited2018 fido on websites which store their credit card details. O_O A friend of mine used "" as a password because it matched what was being

Re: [gentoo-user] Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Mick
On Monday, 4 February 2019 10:37:03 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 04 Feb 2019 10:24:27 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > How do you, especially those who admin systems that are always being > > > hacked at, generate strong passwords that meet the above? I've > > > googled and found some

[gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 04/02/2019 07:47, Dale wrote: How do you, especially those who admin systems that are always being hacked at, generate strong passwords that meet the above?  I've googled and found some ideas but if I use the same method, well, how many others are using that same method, if you know what I

[gentoo-user] Is my NVME too slow?

2019-02-04 Thread Helmut Jarausch
I have a very fast Samsung NVME drive hosting my root file system. During backup 'atop' often shows 100% usage of my NVME drive while reading only a few MB/s and several thousands 'Read' ops (during 10 seconds). Is this normal or a measuring bug of 'atop'. Stand alone timing tests have shown

Re: [gentoo-user] Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 04 Feb 2019 10:24:27 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > How do you, especially those who admin systems that are always being > > hacked at, generate strong passwords that meet the above? I've > > googled and found some ideas but if I use the same method, well, how > > many others are using

Re: [gentoo-user] Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 4 February 2019 05:47:35 GMT Dale wrote: > How do you, especially those who admin systems that are always being > hacked at, generate strong passwords that meet the above? I've googled > and found some ideas but if I use the same method, well, how many others > are using that same