Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread n952162
On 12/14/20 1:04 AM, Michael wrote: If you're running a stable system then you should not *need* to define a particular python version or python target manually in your USE preferences configuration and you should not need to add python or any lib packages in general, in your

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread n952162
On 12/14/20 4:54 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2020-12-13, n952162 wrote: On 12/13/20 9:18 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: Nearly 2 months, quite a long time in Gentoo update terms. Okay, is the solution then to re-install? That's _a_ solution, and might be less work. But, if you're not going to

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread n952162
On 12/13/20 10:39 PM, antlists wrote: On 13/12/2020 21:02, n952162 wrote: My problem is I can't find a diagnostic methodology.  The one I most often hear is, update more often, or trail and error solutions. Although I haven't yet had the grief of something like this python thing, I've always

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread n952162
On 12/13/20 10:31 PM, Dale wrote: I've seen some say to start at the bottom, then work your way up.  Even with that, it doesn't help me understand it most times. It would be cool if the attached vim coloration script would be useful for somebody. " vim: tw=0 syn match maskedinstalled "^-

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread n952162
That's good.  I'll do that On 12/13/20 10:40 PM, Dale wrote: n952162 wrote: On 12/13/20 10:02 PM, n952162 wrote: On 12/13/20 9:06 PM, Dale wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 12:03 PM n952162 mailto:n952...@web.de>> wrote: On 12/13/20 9:18 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: Nearly 2

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] fsck.fat 4.1 - File system couldn't be fixed [SOLVED]

2020-12-13 Thread thelma
On 12/13/2020 06:33 AM, Victor Ivanov wrote: [snip] > > Out of curiosity, do you have the "sys-fs/dosfstools" package installed? > > This is the package that provides the fsck.fat binary. It's not a > dependency of commonly installed system packages so unless you install > it manually it's

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] fsck.fat 4.1 - File system couldn't be fixed [SOLVED]

2020-12-13 Thread Thomas Mueller
Excerpt from Michael: > Right, on UEFI MoBos the ESP partition used by the UEFI firmware to locate > and > run *.EFI executables must be FAT32. Such .EFI executables stored on the ESP > may be OS boot managers/loaders, or other UEFI compatible applications. The > boot manager loaded by UEFI

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding.

2020-12-13 Thread thelma
On 12/13/2020 09:05 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2020-12-14, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > >> I removed "vfat" boot partition and created/change it to ext2 >> >> But now when i try to install grub: >> >> grub-install /dev/nvme0n1p2 >> Installing for i386-pc platform. >> grub-install: warning:

[gentoo-user] Re: grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding.

2020-12-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-14, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I removed "vfat" boot partition and created/change it to ext2 > > But now when i try to install grub: > > grub-install /dev/nvme0n1p2 > Installing for i386-pc platform. > grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding. >

[gentoo-user] Re: update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-13, n952162 wrote: > On 12/13/20 9:18 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >> Nearly 2 months, quite a long time in Gentoo update terms. > > Okay, is the solution then to re-install? That's _a_ solution, and might be less work. But, if you're not going to update more regularly, you're

[gentoo-user] Re: update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-13, Dale wrote: > I been using Gentoo for a good long while and most of the time, I still > can't understand what it spits out onto my screen. I know what you mean. I've been running Gentoo on mutliple machines for 20 years now, and I'm still baffled by much of what "emerge" spews.

Re: [gentoo-user] grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding.

2020-12-13 Thread thelma
On 12/13/2020 08:28 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 12/13/2020 08:15 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >> I removed "vfat" boot partition and created/change it to ext2 >> >> But now when i try to install grub: >> >> grub-install /dev/nvme0n1p2 Simple mistake it should be: grub-install

Re: [gentoo-user] grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding.

2020-12-13 Thread thelma
On 12/13/2020 08:15 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I removed "vfat" boot partition and created/change it to ext2 > > But now when i try to install grub: > > grub-install /dev/nvme0n1p2 > Installing for i386-pc platform. > grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding.

[gentoo-user] grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding.

2020-12-13 Thread thelma
I removed "vfat" boot partition and created/change it to ext2 But now when i try to install grub: grub-install /dev/nvme0n1p2 Installing for i386-pc platform. grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding. grub-install: warning: Embedding is not possible. GRUB can only be

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel

2020-12-13 Thread David Haller
Hello, On Sun, 13 Dec 2020, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >dmesg |grep nvidia > nvidia: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel. > nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. ^^^ [..] >Why this error message? There is no error. See

Re: [gentoo-user] how to control "forcefsck"

2020-12-13 Thread thelma
On 12/13/2020 05:56 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > > After running in "/" directory: > touch forcefsck > > The file is gone now, but every time I reboot the system the root > partition goes into force check: > > fstab: > /dev/nvme0n1p4/ ext4noatime

[gentoo-user] how to control "forcefsck"

2020-12-13 Thread thelma
After running in "/" directory: touch forcefsck The file is gone now, but every time I reboot the system the root partition goes into force check: fstab: /dev/nvme0n1p4 / ext4noatime 0 1

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel

2020-12-13 Thread thelma
On 12/13/2020 05:48 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I'm loading nvidia via: /etc/modules-load.d/video.conf > > but when kernel boots, there is a error message: > > Failed to load nvidia > > dmesg |grep nvidia > nvidia: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel. > nvidia: module license

[gentoo-user] nvidia: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel

2020-12-13 Thread thelma
I'm loading nvidia via: /etc/modules-load.d/video.conf but when kernel boots, there is a error message: Failed to load nvidia dmesg |grep nvidia nvidia: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel. nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. nvidia-nvlink: Nvlink Core is being initialized,

Re: [gentoo-user] nouveau: gr: failed to load firmware "gr/sw_nonctx"

2020-12-13 Thread thelma
On 12/13/2020 04:33 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 11:52:51 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > >> I have "linux-firmware" installed but there is a "?" mark beside it >> >> eix linux-firmware >> [?] sys-kernel/linux-firmware >> Installed versions: 20201022-r3 >> > It means the

Re: [gentoo-user] nouveau: gr: failed to load firmware "gr/sw_nonctx"

2020-12-13 Thread thelma
On 12/13/2020 04:44 PM, Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 13 December 2020 18:52:51 GMT the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >> I have "nouveau" build into kernel but it doesn't work: >> >> Fom dmesg: >> >> nouveau :08:00.0: NVIDIA GP107 (137000a1) >> nouveau :08:00.0: gr: failed to load firmware

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 13 December 2020 21:10:14 GMT n952162 wrote: > On 12/13/20 10:55 AM, Michael wrote: > > On Sunday, 13 December 2020 08:57:53 GMT n952162 wrote: > >> $ sed -n -e '/^\s*#/d' -e '/python3_6/p' /etc/portage/package.use/* > >> > >>> =dev-python/certifi-10001-r1 python_targets_python3_6 >

Re: [gentoo-user] nouveau: gr: failed to load firmware "gr/sw_nonctx"

2020-12-13 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 13 December 2020 18:52:51 GMT the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I have "nouveau" build into kernel but it doesn't work: > > Fom dmesg: > > nouveau :08:00.0: NVIDIA GP107 (137000a1) > nouveau :08:00.0: gr: failed to load firmware "gr/sw_nonctx" > nouveau :08:00.0: gr: failed

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 22:02:44 +0100, n952162 wrote: > My problem is I can't find a diagnostic methodology.  The one I most > often hear is, update more often, or trail and error solutions. Neither of which is a diagnostic methodology. > Does all that information in emerge's output point the way

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 19:58:40 +0100, n952162 wrote: > > Nearly 2 months, quite a long time in Gentoo update terms. > Okay, is the solution then to re-install? Reinstalling is never a solution, just a way to run away from the problem, until it happens again. The solution is to work through the

Re: [gentoo-user] nouveau: gr: failed to load firmware "gr/sw_nonctx"

2020-12-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 11:52:51 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I have "linux-firmware" installed but there is a "?" mark beside it > > eix linux-firmware > [?] sys-kernel/linux-firmware > Installed versions: 20201022-r3 > It means the version you have installed is no longer in the tree.

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 11:07:42AM +0100, n952162 wrote > > If rust, llvm, firefox or thunderbird is in that list, I'll go crazy. You can "unmerge rust", followed by "emerge rust-bin" as a drop-in replacement. The same option is possible with firefox-bin, but firefox-bin is hard-coded to

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread Dale
n952162 wrote: > On 12/13/20 10:55 AM, Michael wrote: >> On Sunday, 13 December 2020 08:57:53 GMT n952162 wrote: >>> On 12/13/20 9:18 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: There's a lot to trawl through here, it looks like you haven't updated >> for quite some time. > The (compressed) log of 

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread Dale
n952162 wrote: > On 12/13/20 10:02 PM, n952162 wrote: >> On 12/13/20 9:06 PM, Dale wrote: >>> Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 12:03 PM n952162 >>> > wrote: > On 12/13/20 9:18 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> Nearly 2 months, quite a long time in

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread antlists
On 13/12/2020 21:02, n952162 wrote: My problem is I can't find a diagnostic methodology.  The one I most often hear is, update more often, or trail and error solutions. Although I haven't yet had the grief of something like this python thing, I've always found that unmerging everything that

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread Dale
n952162 wrote: > On 12/13/20 9:06 PM, Dale wrote: >> >> I agree.  I update once a week.  It seems a pretty good balance between >> not having to do it to often and not having such drastic changes that it >> makes things hard to work through. >> >> That said, when the tree is in the process of huge

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread n952162
On 12/13/20 10:02 PM, n952162 wrote: On 12/13/20 9:06 PM, Dale wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 12:03 PM n952162 mailto:n952...@web.de>> wrote: On 12/13/20 9:18 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: Nearly 2 months, quite a long time in Gentoo update terms. Okay, is the solution then

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread n952162
On 12/13/20 10:55 AM, Michael wrote: On Sunday, 13 December 2020 08:57:53 GMT n952162 wrote: On 12/13/20 9:18 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: There's a lot to trawl through here, it looks like you haven't updated for quite some time. The (compressed) log of a system and world update from 20.

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread n952162
On 12/13/20 9:06 PM, Dale wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 12:03 PM n952162 mailto:n952...@web.de>> wrote: On 12/13/20 9:18 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: Nearly 2 months, quite a long time in Gentoo update terms. Okay, is the solution then to re-install? Personally I

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 at 20:52, n952162 wrote: > > I have this funny pkg entry in the emerge log: > > dev-python/setuptools[python_targets_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-)] > required by (dev-python/ipaddress-1.0.23:0/0::gentoo, installed) USE="" > ABI_X86="(64)"

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 12:03 PM n952162 > wrote: > > > > On 12/13/20 9:18 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > > > Nearly 2 months, quite a long time in Gentoo update terms. > > > > > > > > > > Okay, is the solution then to re-install? > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread cal
On 12/13/20 11:31 AM, n952162 wrote: On 12/13/20 1:09 AM, Dan Egli wrote: Have to agree with Neil on this one. You've got a LOT of updates. World is great, but start with emerge -UDuv @system, after you find the culprit that is still setting python3_6 as a target. Once the system emerge is done

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread n952162
I have this funny pkg entry in the emerge log: dev-python/setuptools[python_targets_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-)] required by (dev-python/ipaddress-1.0.23:0/0::gentoo, installed) USE="" ABI_X86="(64)" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" Where does the python2_7 come from?  The ebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 12:03 PM n952162 wrote: > > On 12/13/20 9:18 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > Nearly 2 months, quite a long time in Gentoo update terms. > > > > > > Okay, is the solution then to re-install? > Personally I wouldn't start with a reinstall. I'd start with my world file and

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread n952162
On 12/13/20 1:09 AM, Dan Egli wrote: Have to agree with Neil on this one. You've got a LOT of updates. World is great, but start with emerge -UDuv @system, after you find the culprit that is still setting python3_6 as a target. Once the system emerge is done then you can try world again and

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread n952162
On 12/13/20 9:18 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: Nearly 2 months, quite a long time in Gentoo update terms. Okay, is the solution then to re-install?

[gentoo-user] nouveau: gr: failed to load firmware "gr/sw_nonctx"

2020-12-13 Thread thelma
I have "nouveau" build into kernel but it doesn't work: Fom dmesg: nouveau :08:00.0: NVIDIA GP107 (137000a1) nouveau :08:00.0: gr: failed to load firmware "gr/sw_nonctx" nouveau :08:00.0: gr: failed to load gr/sw_nonctx nouveau :08:00.0: DRM: failed to create kernel channel, -22

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] fsck.fat 4.1 - File system couldn't be fixed [SOLVED]

2020-12-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:02:10 +, Victor Ivanov wrote: > > NOTE: The UEFI firmware can boot natively linux kernel images without > > chainloading some 3rd party Boot Manager's .EFI executable like > > GRUB, > rEFInd, > > syslinux, etc., as long as the EFI stub support has been enabled in

[gentoo-user] Re: No logging output to tty12

2020-12-13 Thread nunojsilva
On 2020-12-12, Walter Dnes wrote: > I used to get stuff going to tty12, e.g.when attaching a USB drive, > etc. My recent fresh install doesn't have this output. What am I doing > wrong? Have you installed something for syslog? In my installs, I think it is syslog-ng that does this. At least

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] fsck.fat 4.1 - File system couldn't be fixed [SOLVED]

2020-12-13 Thread Victor Ivanov
On 13/12/2020 14:17, Michael wrote: Pre-UEFI /boot on a single partition/filesystem used to be formatted as ext2, primarily because /boot is a small fs in size, is written to only occasionally and unless it happened to crash while writing to it not much benefit would be had by adding the journal

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] fsck.fat 4.1 - File system couldn't be fixed [SOLVED]

2020-12-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 14:17:18 +, Michael wrote: > Gentoo is thankfully flexible enough to allow you to make your own > choices on configuring your system. Whatever works for you best is a > valid choice to make. :-) Whatever works for most other people is a good choice if you may need

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] fsck.fat 4.1 - File system couldn't be fixed [SOLVED]

2020-12-13 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 13 December 2020 07:42:11 GMT the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 12/12/2020 11:00 PM, Victor Ivanov wrote: > > On 13/12/2020 03:07, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > >> if you have UEFI system most likely your "boot" partition is some form > >> of "vfat" > > > > I strongly disagree with

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] fsck.fat 4.1 - File system couldn't be fixed [SOLVED]

2020-12-13 Thread Victor Ivanov
On 13/12/2020 07:42, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: I was following the Gentoo handbook, maybe I didn't read it correctly and/or miss the information on alternative setting. I didn't see any explanation that I need to have support for "fsck.fat". I better stay away from any "vfat" format on boot

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread n952162
(sorry Neil, that you got directly addressed again, wasn' intentional, don't know how it happened)

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread n952162
On 12/13/20 9:18 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 08:14:04 +0100, n952162 wrote: ... There's a lot to trawl through here, it looks like you haven't updated for quite some time. The (compressed) log of  a system and world update from 20. October (2020!) is attached. Nearly 2

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 13 December 2020 08:57:53 GMT n952162 wrote: > On 12/13/20 9:18 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > There's a lot to trawl through here, it looks like you haven't updated > > > >>> for quite some time. > >> > >> The (compressed) log of a system and world update from 20. October > >> (2020!)

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread n952162
On 12/13/20 9:18 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: There's a lot to trawl through here, it looks like you haven't updated for quite some time. The (compressed) log of  a system and world update from 20. October (2020!) is attached. Nearly 2 months, quite a long time in Gentoo update terms. !!! 

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 08:14:04 +0100, n952162 wrote: You sent this to me personally instead of the list. > > There's a lot to trawl through here, it looks like you haven't updated > > for quite some time. > > > The (compressed) log of  a system and world update from 20. October > (2020!) is