Re: [gentoo-user] Apparently 2.4 is not >= 2.2?

2021-12-21 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 at 01:28, Steven Lembark  wrote:
>
> Before I spend a lot of time backtracking all of this...
>
> Q: Are either of these issues well-known pathologies of emerge?

Python target troubles are indeed common around major python version
upgrades, which we've had quite a few of lately.

In your case, I would try running a depclean, dev-python/pytest-runner
does not seem to be in the tree at all, so complaining about not
finding a newer version satisfying the wanted python targets makes
sense there. Removing outdated packages is almost always helpful in
these instances.

Regards,
Arve



[gentoo-user] Re: Apparently 2.4 is not >= 2.2?

2021-12-21 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 22/12/2021 02:28, Steven Lembark wrote:

Q: Are either of these issues well-known pathologies of emerge?
[...]


emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy 
">=dev-lang/python-exec-2:2/2=[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)]".
(dependency required by "dev-python/pytest-runner-4.2::gentoo" [installed])
(dependency required by "@selected" [set])
(dependency required by "@world" [argument])


Post the output of:

emerge --info dev-lang/python-exec




Re: [gentoo-user] Apparently 2.4 is not >= 2.2?

2021-12-21 Thread Jack

On 12/21/21 19:28, Steven Lembark wrote:

Before I spend a lot of time backtracking all of this...

Q: Are either of these issues well-known pathologies of emerge?
  
Recently built a new Gentoo system by creating a new LV, extracting

stage3-amd64-openrc-20211205T170532Z.tar.xz and going through the
handbook stages to get a running sytem.

I then installed a variety of packages I have on the current system
like fonts, claws-mail.

Catch is that I cannot update the sytem:

# $emerge --update --fetchonly @world;
Calculating dependencies... done!

The following packages are causing rebuilds:

   (x11-base/xorg-server-1.20.14:0/1.20.14::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) 
causes rebuilds for:
 (x11-drivers/xf86-input-synaptics-1.9.1:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for 
merge)
 (x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.10.6:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for 
merge)

emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy 
">=dev-lang/python-exec-2:2/2=[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)]".
(dependency required by "dev-python/pytest-runner-4.2::gentoo" [installed])
(dependency required by "@selected" [set])
(dependency required by "@world" [argument])


It seems that I have a recent enough python-exec installed: 2.4 >= 2.2.

# emerge --search dev-lang/python-exec

[ Results for search key : dev-lang/python-exec ]
Searching...

*  dev-lang/python-exec
   Latest version available: 2.4.8
   Latest version installed: 2.4.8
   Size of files: 81 KiB
   Homepage:  https://github.com/mgorny/python-exec/
   Description:   Python script wrapper
   License:   BSD-2


I'm having a similar issue with firefox-bin:

# $emerge firefox-bin;
Calculating dependencies... done!

emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy 
">=dev-python/markupsafe-0.9.2[python_targets_python3_6(-),python_targets_python3_7(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_8(-),-python_single_target_python3_9(-)]".
(dependency required by "dev-python/mako-1.1.3::gentoo" [installed])
(dependency required by "media-libs/mesa-20.1.0::gentoo" [installed])
(dependency required by "x11-libs/gtk+-3.24.29::gentoo[X]" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "www-client/firefox-bin-95.0.1::gentoo" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "firefox-bin" [argument])


But I also seem to have a recent markupsafe, if 2.0.1 >= 0.9.2??

# emerge --search dev-python/markupsafe

[ Results for search key : dev-python/markupsafe ]
Searching...

*  dev-python/markupsafe
   Latest version available: 2.0.1
   Latest version installed: 2.0.1
   Size of files: 19 KiB
   Homepage:  https://pypi.org/project/MarkupSafe/
   Description:   Implements a XML/HTML/XHTML Markup safe string for Python
   License:   BSD
I may well be wront, but it looks like the problems are not due to 
version, but to python-target mismatches.  You may need to rebuild some 
stuff first, such as pytest-runner and mako.




[gentoo-user] Apparently 2.4 is not >= 2.2?

2021-12-21 Thread Steven Lembark
Before I spend a lot of time backtracking all of this...

Q: Are either of these issues well-known pathologies of emerge?
 
Recently built a new Gentoo system by creating a new LV, extracting
stage3-amd64-openrc-20211205T170532Z.tar.xz and going through the 
handbook stages to get a running sytem.

I then installed a variety of packages I have on the current system
like fonts, claws-mail.

Catch is that I cannot update the sytem:

# $emerge --update --fetchonly @world;
Calculating dependencies... done!

The following packages are causing rebuilds:

  (x11-base/xorg-server-1.20.14:0/1.20.14::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) 
causes rebuilds for:
(x11-drivers/xf86-input-synaptics-1.9.1:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for 
merge)
(x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.10.6:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for 
merge)

emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy 
">=dev-lang/python-exec-2:2/2=[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)]".
(dependency required by "dev-python/pytest-runner-4.2::gentoo" [installed])
(dependency required by "@selected" [set])
(dependency required by "@world" [argument])


It seems that I have a recent enough python-exec installed: 2.4 >= 2.2.

# emerge --search dev-lang/python-exec

[ Results for search key : dev-lang/python-exec ]
Searching...

*  dev-lang/python-exec
  Latest version available: 2.4.8
  Latest version installed: 2.4.8
  Size of files: 81 KiB
  Homepage:  https://github.com/mgorny/python-exec/
  Description:   Python script wrapper
  License:   BSD-2


I'm having a similar issue with firefox-bin:

# $emerge firefox-bin;
Calculating dependencies... done!

emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy 
">=dev-python/markupsafe-0.9.2[python_targets_python3_6(-),python_targets_python3_7(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_8(-),-python_single_target_python3_9(-)]".
(dependency required by "dev-python/mako-1.1.3::gentoo" [installed])
(dependency required by "media-libs/mesa-20.1.0::gentoo" [installed])
(dependency required by "x11-libs/gtk+-3.24.29::gentoo[X]" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "www-client/firefox-bin-95.0.1::gentoo" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "firefox-bin" [argument])


But I also seem to have a recent markupsafe, if 2.0.1 >= 0.9.2??

# emerge --search dev-python/markupsafe

[ Results for search key : dev-python/markupsafe ]
Searching...

*  dev-python/markupsafe
  Latest version available: 2.0.1
  Latest version installed: 2.0.1
  Size of files: 19 KiB
  Homepage:  https://pypi.org/project/MarkupSafe/
  Description:   Implements a XML/HTML/XHTML Markup safe string for Python
  License:   BSD



-- 
Steven Lembark
Workhorse Computing
lemb...@wrkhors.com
+1 888 359 3508



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Movie editing softeware

2021-12-21 Thread William Kenworthy



On 22/12/21 04:59, Dale wrote:

Grant Edwards wrote:

On 2021-12-21, Dale  wrote:


As someone who has experimented with video editing software, I can
understand Wols on this.  What some of us needs is something similar to
'video editing for dummys' except we need the software not the book.  At
one time, I wanted to remove like 20 or 30 seconds on the beginning and
about the same on the end of a few videos.  Hours later, still couldn't
figure it out.  Heaven forbid I wanted to remove something in the middle
as well or add a second or so of black screen.

I've had pretty much the same experience with all of the GUI video
editing software I've tried:

  0. It takes at a day just to get one to build.
  
  1. The GUI is always completely baffling, and there doesn't seem to

 be any commonality from one package to the next.

  2. There's little or no documentation available other than lists of
 commands/features with descriptions that assume you already know
 how the program works. When you need to know how to accomplish a
 task, there's no help. It is always assumed you already know what
 command/feature to use.

  3. The "project" structure and paradigm always seems to be WAY too
 complex for what I want to do and does nothing for me other than
 get in the way.

  4. About 30% of the features/commands don't work at all, another 30%
 don't work they way the documentation says they do, and the rest
 have been renamed and moved to a different menu/panel/mode since
 the documentation was written.

  5. All of the ones I've ever tried crashed frequently. They crash
 when adding a source, when adding or changing an edit,
 transitions, or effect. They crash when exporting/rendering.

Melt is the only one I've ever been able to actually accomplish
something useful with. The really nice thing is that you can write a
bash (or other) program to automate stuff. If all you want to do is
concatenate a directory full of video clips with some intro, outro,
and transitions, you can write a script that does that and then run it
on as many different directories or lists of files as you want.

You don't have to set up a new project and start from scratch every time.


I never had Kdenlive to crash.  I just couldn't figure out how to make
it work.  As you say, most docs are out of date or for old versions.
I've seen that with Kicad too.  I kind of dread upgrading to Kicad 6.  I
actually masked it here until the bugs get worked out and the docs catch
up.

Maybe one day either the docs will catch up or they will make it easy to
figure out.  Maybe.  ;-)

Dale

:-)  :-)



Gotta reply here - kdelive crashes at the drop of a hat with the files I 
am using - very frustrating.  But the interface is such a crap shoot I 
have given up on it - I'll try the other suggestions over the next few 
days so I am ready next time..


BillK




RE: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-21 Thread Laurence Perkins
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Wols Lists  
>>Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 2:03 PM
>>To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>>Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware
>>
>>On 21/12/2021 19:16, Dale wrote:
>>> Spackman, Chris wrote:
 On 2021/12/21 at 05:13pm, Wols Lists wrote:
> On 21/12/2021 16:07, Spackman, Chris wrote:
>> On 2021/12/20 at 11:17am, William Kenworthy wrote:
>>> Hi, what is a usable piece of software in portage to do a quick 
>>> edit of a movie? (cut start/end and maybe splice a bit in/out of 
>>> the middle?)
>> I've not seen anyone mention OpenShot. It is in portage, but masked 
>> for some reason.
>> As someone else mentioned, you do have to create a project and then 
>> export. Really, though, the "create project, make export choices" 
>> is only like an extra minute or two of your time. I usually don't 
>> even save the project for just some simple trimming.
   
> It may be a minute or two of YOUR time.
>
> For someone who doesn't "DO" video editing, it can easily turn into 
> hours of debugging trying to work out what does (or doesn't) work.
>
> Sorry, but you can't assume we're all video whizzes like you ... :-) 
> That's why we want something dummy-proof!
 Wow, sorry, didn't realize this was such a sore issue. Especially 
 considering we've already discussed several command line programs in 
 this thread.

 To export:

 1. press the red circular "export video" button (or go to File =>
 Export Project => Export Video);

 2a. [optional] change the name of the video in the export window that
  pops up;

 2b. press the "export video" button at the bottom of the window. Here,
  for me, the defaults work fine.

 I did it three times in less than a minute, double checking the 
 accuracy for this post. So, not a huge inconvenience.

 Of course, if the defaults do NOT work for you, then you do not want 
 something "dead easy", you want something that will read your mind 
 and do what you want, somehow, automagically.

>>> 
>>> 
>>> As someone who has experimented with video editing software, I can 
>>> understand Wols on this.  What some of us needs is something similar 
>>> to 'video editing for dummys' except we need the software not the 
>>> book.  At one time, I wanted to remove like 20 or 30 seconds on the 
>>> beginning and about the same on the end of a few videos.  Hours later, 
>>> still couldn't figure it out.  Heaven forbid I wanted to remove 
>>> something in the middle as well or add a second or so of black screen.  
>>> O_O
>>> 
>>> This coming from someone who was able to figure out Kicad and get 
>>> circuit boards made.  Just saying.  LOL
>>> 
>>Yup. This coming from someone who is quite happy with the command line 
>>because when he started THAT'S ALL THERE WAS. My work experience pre-dates 
>>the IBM PC - you know the one - the one with an 8088 inside...
>>
>>Oh - and as for using the command line, it's all very well until you try and 
>>figure out where to tell the command line to cut the video file - I really 
>>don't want to have to run the command line hundreds of times, checking the 
>>output every time, and throwing away the ones that cut in the wrong place. 
>>Oh, and if I use some video editing software to find the exact millisecond I 
>>want to cut, it STILL cuts it in completely the wrong place ...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Wol
>>
>>

Note that some editing software can only cut at the iframes, and it's also 
fairly common to only be able to cut at the iframes unless it's re-encoding the 
data.  That can be a major source of frustration.

LMP


Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-21 Thread Wols Lists

On 21/12/2021 19:16, Dale wrote:

Spackman, Chris wrote:

On 2021/12/21 at 05:13pm, Wols Lists wrote:

On 21/12/2021 16:07, Spackman, Chris wrote:

On 2021/12/20 at 11:17am, William Kenworthy wrote:

Hi, what is a usable piece of software in portage to do a quick edit of
a movie? (cut start/end and maybe splice a bit in/out of the middle?)

I've not seen anyone mention OpenShot. It is in portage, but masked for
some reason.
As someone else mentioned, you do have to create a project and then
export. Really, though, the "create project, make export choices" is
only like an extra minute or two of your time. I usually don't even save
the project for just some simple trimming.
  

It may be a minute or two of YOUR time.

For someone who doesn't "DO" video editing, it can easily turn into
hours of debugging trying to work out what does (or doesn't) work.

Sorry, but you can't assume we're all video whizzes like you ... :-)
That's why we want something dummy-proof!

Wow, sorry, didn't realize this was such a sore issue. Especially
considering we've already discussed several command line programs in
this thread.

To export:

1. press the red circular "export video" button (or go to File =>
Export Project => Export Video);

2a. [optional] change the name of the video in the export window that
 pops up;

2b. press the "export video" button at the bottom of the window. Here,
 for me, the defaults work fine.

I did it three times in less than a minute, double checking the accuracy
for this post. So, not a huge inconvenience.

Of course, if the defaults do NOT work for you, then you do not want
something "dead easy", you want something that will read your mind and
do what you want, somehow, automagically.




As someone who has experimented with video editing software, I can
understand Wols on this.  What some of us needs is something similar to
'video editing for dummys' except we need the software not the book.  At
one time, I wanted to remove like 20 or 30 seconds on the beginning and
about the same on the end of a few videos.  Hours later, still couldn't
figure it out.  Heaven forbid I wanted to remove something in the middle
as well or add a second or so of black screen.  O_O

This coming from someone who was able to figure out Kicad and get
circuit boards made.  Just saying.  LOL

Yup. This coming from someone who is quite happy with the command line 
because when he started THAT'S ALL THERE WAS. My work experience 
pre-dates the IBM PC - you know the one - the one with an 8088 inside...


Oh - and as for using the command line, it's all very well until you try 
and figure out where to tell the command line to cut the video file - I 
really don't want to have to run the command line hundreds of times, 
checking the output every time, and throwing away the ones that cut in 
the wrong place. Oh, and if I use some video editing software to find 
the exact millisecond I want to cut, it STILL cuts it in completely the 
wrong place ...


Cheers,
Wol



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Movie editing softeware

2021-12-21 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2021-12-21, Dale  wrote:
>
>> As someone who has experimented with video editing software, I can
>> understand Wols on this.  What some of us needs is something similar to
>> 'video editing for dummys' except we need the software not the book.  At
>> one time, I wanted to remove like 20 or 30 seconds on the beginning and
>> about the same on the end of a few videos.  Hours later, still couldn't
>> figure it out.  Heaven forbid I wanted to remove something in the middle
>> as well or add a second or so of black screen.
> I've had pretty much the same experience with all of the GUI video
> editing software I've tried:
>
>  0. It takes at a day just to get one to build.
>  
>  1. The GUI is always completely baffling, and there doesn't seem to
> be any commonality from one package to the next.
>
>  2. There's little or no documentation available other than lists of
> commands/features with descriptions that assume you already know
> how the program works. When you need to know how to accomplish a
> task, there's no help. It is always assumed you already know what
> command/feature to use.
>
>  3. The "project" structure and paradigm always seems to be WAY too
> complex for what I want to do and does nothing for me other than
> get in the way.
>
>  4. About 30% of the features/commands don't work at all, another 30%
> don't work they way the documentation says they do, and the rest
> have been renamed and moved to a different menu/panel/mode since
> the documentation was written.
>
>  5. All of the ones I've ever tried crashed frequently. They crash
> when adding a source, when adding or changing an edit,
> transitions, or effect. They crash when exporting/rendering.
>
> Melt is the only one I've ever been able to actually accomplish
> something useful with. The really nice thing is that you can write a
> bash (or other) program to automate stuff. If all you want to do is
> concatenate a directory full of video clips with some intro, outro,
> and transitions, you can write a script that does that and then run it
> on as many different directories or lists of files as you want.
>
> You don't have to set up a new project and start from scratch every time.
>

I never had Kdenlive to crash.  I just couldn't figure out how to make
it work.  As you say, most docs are out of date or for old versions. 
I've seen that with Kicad too.  I kind of dread upgrading to Kicad 6.  I
actually masked it here until the bugs get worked out and the docs catch
up. 

Maybe one day either the docs will catch up or they will make it easy to
figure out.  Maybe.  ;-)

Dale

:-)  :-) 



[gentoo-user] Re: Movie editing softeware

2021-12-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-12-21, Dale  wrote:

> As someone who has experimented with video editing software, I can
> understand Wols on this.  What some of us needs is something similar to
> 'video editing for dummys' except we need the software not the book.  At
> one time, I wanted to remove like 20 or 30 seconds on the beginning and
> about the same on the end of a few videos.  Hours later, still couldn't
> figure it out.  Heaven forbid I wanted to remove something in the middle
> as well or add a second or so of black screen.

I've had pretty much the same experience with all of the GUI video
editing software I've tried:

 0. It takes at a day just to get one to build.
 
 1. The GUI is always completely baffling, and there doesn't seem to
be any commonality from one package to the next.

 2. There's little or no documentation available other than lists of
commands/features with descriptions that assume you already know
how the program works. When you need to know how to accomplish a
task, there's no help. It is always assumed you already know what
command/feature to use.

 3. The "project" structure and paradigm always seems to be WAY too
complex for what I want to do and does nothing for me other than
get in the way.

 4. About 30% of the features/commands don't work at all, another 30%
don't work they way the documentation says they do, and the rest
have been renamed and moved to a different menu/panel/mode since
the documentation was written.

 5. All of the ones I've ever tried crashed frequently. They crash
when adding a source, when adding or changing an edit,
transitions, or effect. They crash when exporting/rendering.

Melt is the only one I've ever been able to actually accomplish
something useful with. The really nice thing is that you can write a
bash (or other) program to automate stuff. If all you want to do is
concatenate a directory full of video clips with some intro, outro,
and transitions, you can write a script that does that and then run it
on as many different directories or lists of files as you want.

You don't have to set up a new project and start from scratch every time.








Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-21 Thread Wols Lists

On 21/12/2021 18:49, Spackman, Chris wrote:

Wow, sorry, didn't realize this was such a sore issue. Especially
considering we've already discussed several command line programs in
this thread.

To export:

1. press the red circular "export video" button (or go to File =>
Export Project => Export Video);

2a. [optional] change the name of the video in the export window that
 pops up;

2b. press the "export video" button at the bottom of the window. Here,
 for me, the defaults work fine.


The problem is 2b. For me, it's an extremely simple case of "I gave you 
a dot ts file, I want a dot ts file back".


The act of importing the ts file into the project seems to throw that 
information away. I know a .ts is some sort of a container, with streams 
and whatnot, but I don't have a clue what's in it. Why should I?


All I know is I want to end up with EXACTLY the same sort of file I 
started with, and this seems exactly what most video editors don't have 
a clue how to do!


(Like a word .docx - I don't give a monkeys what's inside it, I don't 
need to, word takes care of all that. Why can't any half-decent video 
editor do the same?)


And yes, I have tried. You're hearing the screams of frustration from 
countless failed attempts.


Cheers,
Wol



Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-21 Thread Dale
Spackman, Chris wrote:
> On 2021/12/21 at 05:13pm, Wols Lists wrote:
>> On 21/12/2021 16:07, Spackman, Chris wrote:
>>> On 2021/12/20 at 11:17am, William Kenworthy wrote:
 Hi, what is a usable piece of software in portage to do a quick edit of
 a movie? (cut start/end and maybe splice a bit in/out of the middle?)
>>> I've not seen anyone mention OpenShot. It is in portage, but masked for
>>> some reason.
>>> As someone else mentioned, you do have to create a project and then
>>> export. Really, though, the "create project, make export choices" is
>>> only like an extra minute or two of your time. I usually don't even save
>>> the project for just some simple trimming.
>  
>> It may be a minute or two of YOUR time.
>>
>> For someone who doesn't "DO" video editing, it can easily turn into 
>> hours of debugging trying to work out what does (or doesn't) work.
>>
>> Sorry, but you can't assume we're all video whizzes like you ... :-) 
>> That's why we want something dummy-proof!
> Wow, sorry, didn't realize this was such a sore issue. Especially
> considering we've already discussed several command line programs in
> this thread. 
>
> To export:
>
> 1. press the red circular "export video" button (or go to File =>
>Export Project => Export Video);
>
> 2a. [optional] change the name of the video in the export window that
> pops up;
>
> 2b. press the "export video" button at the bottom of the window. Here,
> for me, the defaults work fine.
>
> I did it three times in less than a minute, double checking the accuracy
> for this post. So, not a huge inconvenience.
>
> Of course, if the defaults do NOT work for you, then you do not want
> something "dead easy", you want something that will read your mind and
> do what you want, somehow, automagically.
>


As someone who has experimented with video editing software, I can
understand Wols on this.  What some of us needs is something similar to
'video editing for dummys' except we need the software not the book.  At
one time, I wanted to remove like 20 or 30 seconds on the beginning and
about the same on the end of a few videos.  Hours later, still couldn't
figure it out.  Heaven forbid I wanted to remove something in the middle
as well or add a second or so of black screen.  O_O 

This coming from someone who was able to figure out Kicad and get
circuit boards made.  Just saying.  LOL 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-21 Thread Spackman, Chris
On 2021/12/21 at 05:13pm, Wols Lists wrote:
> On 21/12/2021 16:07, Spackman, Chris wrote:
> > On 2021/12/20 at 11:17am, William Kenworthy wrote:
> >> Hi, what is a usable piece of software in portage to do a quick edit of
> >> a movie? (cut start/end and maybe splice a bit in/out of the middle?)

> > I've not seen anyone mention OpenShot. It is in portage, but masked for
> > some reason.

> > As someone else mentioned, you do have to create a project and then
> > export. Really, though, the "create project, make export choices" is
> > only like an extra minute or two of your time. I usually don't even save
> > the project for just some simple trimming.
 
> It may be a minute or two of YOUR time.
> 
> For someone who doesn't "DO" video editing, it can easily turn into 
> hours of debugging trying to work out what does (or doesn't) work.
> 
> Sorry, but you can't assume we're all video whizzes like you ... :-) 
> That's why we want something dummy-proof!

Wow, sorry, didn't realize this was such a sore issue. Especially
considering we've already discussed several command line programs in
this thread. 

To export:

1. press the red circular "export video" button (or go to File =>
   Export Project => Export Video);

2a. [optional] change the name of the video in the export window that
pops up;

2b. press the "export video" button at the bottom of the window. Here,
for me, the defaults work fine.

I did it three times in less than a minute, double checking the accuracy
for this post. So, not a huge inconvenience.

Of course, if the defaults do NOT work for you, then you do not want
something "dead easy", you want something that will read your mind and
do what you want, somehow, automagically.

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ESL Coordinator The Graham Family of Schools
ESL EducatorColumbus State Community College
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Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-21 Thread Wols Lists

On 21/12/2021 16:07, Spackman, Chris wrote:

On 2021/12/20 at 11:17am, William Kenworthy wrote:

Hi, what is a usable piece of software in portage to do a quick edit of
a movie? (cut start/end and maybe splice a bit in/out of the middle?)

I've not seen anyone mention OpenShot. It is in portage, but masked for
some reason.

As someone else mentioned, you do have to create a project and then
export. Really, though, the "create project, make export choices" is
only like an extra minute or two of your time. I usually don't even save
the project for just some simple trimming.



It may be a minute or two of YOUR time.

For someone who doesn't "DO" video editing, it can easily turn into 
hours of debugging trying to work out what does (or doesn't) work.


Been there done that!

Sorry, but you can't assume we're all video whizzes like you ... :-) 
That's why we want something dummy-proof!


Cheers,
Wol



Re: [gentoo-user] Ktorrent using a lot of memory recently

2021-12-21 Thread computers with nikita nikita
I dont use Ktorrent, While what you are describing sounds like a memory
leak,
have you considered it could be the active downloads connecting to a large
number of peers? Or it could be it building a very large dht index (not
sure what the proper terminology for this is)

You should double check your settings and make sure everything has sane
limits

On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 11:07 PM Dale  wrote:

> Howdy all,
>
> I been using Ktorrent for several months now.  When I started using it,
> it used only a few hundred megabytes of ram and was running for a week
> or so without a restart.  It rarely even showed up in top when sorted by
> memory usage.  Certainly true when several Firefox browser profiles are
> open and running.  Recently tho, it is using a lot more memory.  Once it
> was several GBs and I had to close and restart Ktorrent to clear it up.
> It runs with a more normal memory usage for a while but then starts
> building up again.  Once I get something downloaded, I copy it from the
> folder it downloads to over to other directories where I rename and
> organize things.  Only active downloads remain listed within Ktorrent.
> This is from top. This is after less than a day of run time, likely
> around 12 hours or so.
>
>
>   PID USER  PR  NIVIRTRESSHR S  %CPU  %MEM TIME+
>
> COMMAND
>
>  5604 dale  20   0 3262804   1.0g  81648 S   0.0   3.3  45:40.05
> /usr/bin/ktorrent
>
>
> This is my version and USE flags.
>
>
> [ebuild   R] net-p2p/ktorrent-21.08.3:5::gentoo  USE="bwscheduler
> downloadorder handbook infowidget ipfilter logviewer magnetgenerator
> mediaplayer scanfolder stats upnp webengine zeroconf -debug -rss
> -shutdown -test" 0 KiB
>
>
> Entries in /etc/portage for ktorrent:
>
>
> root@fireball / # grep -r ktorrent /etc/portage/
> /etc/portage/package.use/package.use:net-p2p/ktorrent -search -shutdown
> -rss
> root@fireball / #
>
>
> I checked and I'm on the same version as I have been using since I
> installed Ktorrent.  I suspect the problem may be a dependency of
> Ktorrent and not Ktorrent itself, even tho it shows Ktorrent using the
> memory.  I'm not quite sure how that could be but since Ktorrent itself
> hasn't changed, well, makes me wonder.
>
> Anyone else having this problem or have a idea of the cause?  Could it
> be a USE flag that I can disable?  I can disable things I don't use if
> needed.  Is it something Ktorrent depends on that is causing this?
>
> Ideas? Thoughts?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>
>


Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 11:07:39 -0500, Spackman, Chris wrote:

> > Hi, what is a usable piece of software in portage to do a quick edit
> > of a movie? (cut start/end and maybe splice a bit in/out of the
> > middle?)  
> 
> I've not seen anyone mention OpenShot. It is in portage, but masked for
> some reason.

I considered mentioning it, but its a bit much for what the OP needed,
Avidemux is much simpler and faster.

I have used openshot for creating a video from multiple sources and found
it good for that. I had to add "media-video/openshot **" to
package.accept_keywords.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten per cent of its capacity
... the rest is overhead for the operating system.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Movie editing softeware

2021-12-21 Thread Spackman, Chris
On 2021/12/20 at 11:17am, William Kenworthy wrote:
> Hi, what is a usable piece of software in portage to do a quick edit of 
> a movie? (cut start/end and maybe splice a bit in/out of the middle?)

I've not seen anyone mention OpenShot. It is in portage, but masked for
some reason.

As someone else mentioned, you do have to create a project and then
export. Really, though, the "create project, make export choices" is
only like an extra minute or two of your time. I usually don't even save
the project for just some simple trimming.

Alternatively, there are sites that do video editing. I like veed.io
just because it can add and then translate subtitles (which I need for
my job), but I'm sure there are many others.

-- 
Chris Spackman (he / him)   ch...@osugisakae.com

ESOL CoordinatorThe Graham Family of Schools
ESL EducatorColumbus State Community College
Japan Exchange and Teaching Program   Wajima, Ishikawa 1995-1998
Linux user since 1998 Linux User #137532