[gentoo-user] Faxing in Gentoo with Digital Phone Line
Hi Guys: I'm a little fuzzy here, so I'm asking for help. I recently subscribed to my local cable company's digital phone service. Now, I would like to send a fax from my computer. Is rp-ppoe what I need (and of course a fax client) to do this? If this is not what I need, please advise. Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] jre question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rumen Yotov wrote: On (08/01/06 02:44), C. Beamer wrote: Hi all, I did an 'emerge --sync' tonight. One of the items on my list of updates was sun-jre-bin. Of course, the procedure is to download the binary from sun and put it in /usr/portage/distfiles. Prior to downloading, I unmerge (or thought I did), the previous installation of jre. However, after downloading the new version and checking /usr/portage/distfiles/, I discovered that there are about 3 other versions of sun-jre-bin in this directory. Can these be removed? Also, despite the unmerge, there are 3 other sun-jre-bin-version directories in /opt. Can these also be safely removed? Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi, Yes, you can (i even do it ;-) remove old package sources. The single drawback is that if you need to downgrade (rarely happens) you have to download them again (i use distclean script). Check www.gentooexperimental.org for this and other usefull scripts. To your second question-just think (not sure) this are only parts of the old installs. As far as you removed (emerge -C) the previous packages, this isn't a great problem. Check the dirs content. HTH.Rumen Thanks. I did figure out that the directories in /opt were just remnants - they only had the man directory in them, so I removed them. Will check out the link. Also will take under advisement your caution regarding the removal of files in /usr/portage/distfiles. Based on what you said, I think I will keep one older version of the sun-jre-bin versions, but I'll remove the others. And this did help. Regards, Colleen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDwIVL7FsR4jhcRJoRAq7DAKCsX+hQNPE7TNU7+WKfy8rqPwvJxwCfaBYX JURBU+6BE0zaPl2x8uSwYKQ= =BN7I -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] jre question
Hi all, I did an 'emerge --sync' tonight. One of the items on my list of updates was sun-jre-bin. Of course, the procedure is to download the binary from sun and put it in /usr/portage/distfiles. Prior to downloading, I unmerge (or thought I did), the previous installation of jre. However, after downloading the new version and checking /usr/portage/distfiles/, I discovered that there are about 3 other versions of sun-jre-bin in this directory. Can these be removed? Also, despite the unmerge, there are 3 other sun-jre-bin-version directories in /opt. Can these also be safely removed? Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge update question
Rumen Yotov wrote: On (03/01/06 00:30), C. Beamer wrote: Hi all, I ran emerge --sync this evening and afterwards when I did 'emerge --pretend --update --deep world', I got the following result: These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies . ...done! [ebuild UD] media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.9a [1.0.10_rc3] [ebuild U ] media-libs/xvid-1.0.3 [1.0.2] [ebuild U ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20051216 [0.4.9_p20050226-r5] [ebuild U ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.1-r3 [1.1.1-r2] [ebuild U ] media-libs/libexif-0.6.12-r4 [0.5.12-r3] [ebuild U ] sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1 [0.23-r3] [ebuild U ] sys-apps/hal-0.4.8 [0.4.7-r2] [ebuild U ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.1 [1.2.0-r1] [ebuild U ] media-video/transcode-0.6.14-r3 [0.6.14-r2] I understand what this is telling me, but I don't understand why I would need to downgrade alsa-utils. I have alsa-driver version 1.0.10_r3 and up until today, when I synced, there wasn't a problem with alsa-utils. I assumed that the downgrade was because one of the other packages in the list. However, I did 'emerge --pretend' on each of the other packages and none listed alsa-utils as a dependency. Then, I emerged each of the packages individually and got no error messages. After emerging all other packages, my system reboots fine and there seems to be no problems. However, now if I run 'emerge --pretend --update --deep world', emerge still wants to downgrade alsa-utils. Hi, It's a question of adding one additional option to emerge: --tree (-t). It'll then display some additional packages for which the upgrades are dependencies, check the one above alsa-utils - it requires the downgrade. Rumen Since I upgraded all the packages individually, only alsa-utils remains for upgrade/downgrade. However, I did try 'emerge --pretend --update --deep --tree alsa-utils' and it didn't return any dependencies. The list as given above was the complete list, so I'm not sure what was meant by check the one above alsa-utils'. Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge update question
Hi all, I ran emerge --sync this evening and afterwards when I did 'emerge --pretend --update --deep world', I got the following result: These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies . ...done! [ebuild UD] media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.9a [1.0.10_rc3] [ebuild U ] media-libs/xvid-1.0.3 [1.0.2] [ebuild U ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20051216 [0.4.9_p20050226-r5] [ebuild U ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.1-r3 [1.1.1-r2] [ebuild U ] media-libs/libexif-0.6.12-r4 [0.5.12-r3] [ebuild U ] sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1 [0.23-r3] [ebuild U ] sys-apps/hal-0.4.8 [0.4.7-r2] [ebuild U ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.1 [1.2.0-r1] [ebuild U ] media-video/transcode-0.6.14-r3 [0.6.14-r2] I understand what this is telling me, but I don't understand why I would need to downgrade alsa-utils. I have alsa-driver version 1.0.10_r3 and up until today, when I synced, there wasn't a problem with alsa-libs. I assumed that the downgrade was because one of the other packages in the list. However, I did 'emerge --pretend' on each of the other packages and none listed alsa-utils as a dependency. Then, I emerged each of the packages individually and got no error messages. After emerging all other packages, my system reboots fine and there seems to be no problems. However, now if I run 'emerge --pretend --update --deep world', emerge still wants to downgrade alsa-utils. In other situations (like for the ati-drivers), I put '=x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r5 ~x86' in my package.keywords file to get around upgrading the driver because with the newer version of this driver, my system won't shutdown or reboot when either of those options are chosen from the menu on KDE logout. However, I tried this and I get a message about an invalid atom (even without the ~x86 at the end of the line). I don't want to downgrade the alsa-utils in case it breaks alsa-driver and as I said, I don't understand why all of a sudden I would have to. How do I prevent the downgrade during an emerge --update world without having to emerge each package individually? Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A Bit of Trivia
Philip Webb wrote: 060101 Chris White wrote: On Saturday 31 December 2005 22:35, C. Beamer wrote: Fedora: 3.45 *Gentoo: 3.75* Mandriva: 3.70 Suse: 3.40 Ubuntu: 3.90 Word of advice, things like this are generally flawed. Quite true, but I believe CB's point was simply that Gentoo is up there with the other well-known distros for usability. Exactly! :-) This rating was derived from the author's personal experience. Personally, I think that Gentoo is the best from my experience. It does have a bit of a learning curve (but because of the things I've learned, I appreciated that learning curve), but I figure if you give it a chance and can live with the long builds, it's rating is well deserved. The best distro for your needs is the one that best suits what you expect your system to do. Again, people out there should know that Gentoo may well be that distro. Gentoo is not difficult, but requires on-going attention input from users: in return, you get a system which you can tune to do just what you want. My own recent experience trying to update the OS in my back-up machine was that Mandriva 2006 wouldn't install, Kubuntu could not be configured, as it refused to recognise the password (it uses the same for user root), while Suse required downloading writing 5 ISO's; Ubuntu, of course, is only for those who are willing to use Gnome. Finally, I got Mandriva 2005 installed working well enough, but only with a lot of time effort (the machine too slow for Gentoo). OTOH I've been using Gentoo in my main box without problems since 031005 have a fully upto-date environment which does just what I want it to do. Gentoo is probably suitable for a lot more users than realise it. I couldn't have said this better myself! :-) As I said in my original post, I've used all these distros with the exception of Suse. I have the most experience with Redhat and Fedora and *personal opinion*, I would use Gentoo over any of them. Sure, all distros have their good points and bad and it all comes down to what works best for the person using it (as Chris pointed out). I didn't intend that this should be a written in blood evaluation. I just wanted to point out that a technical writer rated it well within a group of well known distros when this would surprise a lot of people (not necessarily Gentooists) and I thought you guys might find it interesting. And surely you guys must agree the the Documentation rating (this was a 5 for Gentoo, and the highest) is right on! Even an idiot like me can follow this documentation and produce a favourable end result. Happy New Year! :-) Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] A Bit of Trivia
Hello and Happy New Year to all, I am so enamoured with Gentoo that I couldn't resist passing on this bit of trivia. O'Reilly recently published a book called Linux Desktop Pocket Reference. The first chapter is available for viewing on the O'Reilly website and in that chapter the author rated, from his personal experience, 5 distributions under the following categories in the process of getting Linux on the desktop: Installation, Configuration, Program Installation, Documentation (Gentoo rated 5 here, which is *totally* understandable and deserving), and finally gave a weighted average for these. The weighted averages for the 5 distros were: Fedora: 3.45 *Gentoo: 3.75* Mandriva: 3.70 Suse: 3.40 Ubuntu: 3.90 I've used all of these distros with the exception of Suse and can understand why Ubuntu rated slightly higher than Gentoo. I found it very easy to get it installed and for me, it detected all my hardware and configured everything without a glitch. However, I find it interesting to note that Gentoo scored the 2nd highest when it's supposed to be one of the most difficult distros to get installed. I admit, I did suffer some growing pains when installing Gentoo, but I still think it's the greatest because of the control it gives me and I have learned a lot about things like compiling the kernel in the process. Gentoo rocks! Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg config
John Jolet wrote: Okay, so i'm experimenting with the split kde ebuilds, having done a kde-meta the last time. However, when I did that, I got all my hardware configured and set up automatically somehow. when I just did emerge kdebase-startkde, It won't allow me to go beyond 640x480. So I ran xorgconfig, and now I've apparently picked the wrong mouse (it's a usb trackball) port and nothing works. Is there a script that will set all this for me? I really, REALLY hate mucking about in that stupid xorg.conf file. Xorg -configure See: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A few (gentoo-newbie) questions (mainly about binary packages)
Hi, Most of your questions have been answered by more knowledgeable people on the list than I. However, I do I one comment: Richard Neill wrote: 4)Does anyone know of a good resource for ex-mandriva users? I can't say enough good things about Gentoo documentation: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/list.xml It has helped me out a number of times. I'm a relatively new Gentoo user as well (Sept. 2005) and I'm not a techy. I used Redhat and then, Fedora for about 4 years. People on this list have been great and initially pointed me toward various Gentoo documentation. I've finally clued in and realized what an invaluable resource this is. Case in point: I recently installed Gentoo on my laptop. It's a 2.4 gHz with a 40 gig hard drive, so perhaps it's a little more powerful than yours. I followed the steps in the Gentoo handbook and built ACPI into the kernel. Once I got to the boot stage, I had problems because I didn't follow the ACPI guide and I should have. Once I followed the steps in that, I was able to compile xwindows and kde-meta without a hitch. And for what it's worth, I had never compiled a kernel before using Gentoo and now, I can do it without being scared out of my mind - I may not be an expert, but I'm getting better and I am learning. And as I said, I'm not a techy - I could be someones grandmother! :-) I have to say that I am totally biased - Gentoo is the best! Anyway, that's my 2 cents! :-) Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] data base program
James Ausmus wrote: On 12/19/05, capsel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any program for makeing data bases as fast as ms access (works fast, small) and free as openbase? I haven't used it much, just looked at it a time or two, but Rekall aims to be a MS Access work-alike replacement tool - it runs on top of a MySQL or Postgresql database - it just provides the pretty UI elements such as forms, reports, visually-designed queries, etc. You can also use Open Office Base, which is the data basing component of Open Office. I have it set up with an ODBC connection to a MySQL database (because Open Office didn't have a database component until recently). You can use it to create forms (for example, to create a list box from which to select values for certain fields) and edit the database from within the form. Any changes are saved in Open Office as well as back to the MySQL database. Gentoo has a MySQL startup guide if you have never used it: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/mysql-howto.xml To set up the ODBC connection (note that this document was written prior to Base being part of Open Office, but the methodology for setting up the ODBC connection still applies - except that in Gentoo the odbc.ini and odbcinst.ini are in /etc/unixODBC/ and the correct file name for the library is /usr/libmyodbc3.so): http://www.unixodbc.org/doc/OOoMySQL9.pdf Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Removing Specific Kernel Sources
Thanks, Myk Taylor wrote: emerge -C gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10 or emerge -C =gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10 -C is short for --unmerge This did what I wanted it to do. I had the command right, I was just using the wrong name - I used linux-sources. What can I say ... I'm still learning! :-) This also helped me get rid of a kernel source that had installed when I did an 'emerge --update --deep world' shortly after starting to use Gentoo, but I never did the actual upgrade. Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Minor Startup Issue
Richard Fish wrote: On 12/17/05, C. Beamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Up until now, when the computer boots and goes through its startup routine, the screen will blip and then the text that is scrolling by on the screen prior to starting the gui interface, reduces in size. Now, the screen still does a slight blip, but the screen font remains the same size as it was prior to the blip. The 'blip' is usually when the framebuffer graphics driver turns on and changes the video mode. Since you are not seeing any difference, either the framebuffer driver is failing, or you are now using just the plain vga driver instead of something more advanced (like vesafb-tng). Take a look at what you have under Device Drivers-Graphics Support, the answer is probably in there. I played with this for the better part of the afternoon. Nothing changed. I *do* have vesafb-tng enabled. This might be way out in left field, but I compared something between my laptop, which works fine loading the framebuffer device running kernel 2.6.14-r4 and my desktop which I upgraded to kernel 2.6.14-r5. Running menuconfig, the following lines show: Device Drivers --- Character Devices --- [*] Virtual terminal [*] Support for console on virtual terminal There are no such lines in running menuconfig on my desktop. The difference *could* be laptop--desktop, but I thought I would ask. Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Removing Specific Kernel Sources
Hi all, From all I've ever read and about Linux and the kernel, it has always been recommended that you keep one kernel source older than the one that you are currently running on your system. In this respect, I now have 3 kernel sources on my computer after upgrading today. I would like to remove the oldest one - specifically linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r10 The Kernel Upgrade Guide tells you how to remove the old sources using emerge -P. However, from what is stated in the manual, *all* old kernel sources are removed. The emerge man page says that a better option is to use emerge --clean. However, I haven't been able to figure out how to remove a specific source tree. Any assistance would be appreciated. Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Minor Startup Issue
Hi all, You'll probably think this is dumb, but what can I say? I'm a bit anal is some respects! :-) Today, I updated my desktop system and recompiled a new kernel. Afterwards I re-emerged alsa-driver and ati-drivers. The update solved an issue with not being able to turn off or reboot the computer when I selected either from the menu on KDE logout. Everything is working fine once KDE is launched. When I recompiled the kernel, I decided to trim it down some. I use genkernel and mostly have left all the defaults in there except for the pertinent parts for the alsa-driver and ati-drivers as outlined in the associated Gentoo Guides. However, since this is a desktop machine, I figured it was safe to remove stuff associated with laptops, so that's what I did. Anyway, the problem is not that things aren't working. It's that something is happening differently and it's driving me nuts. Up until now, when the computer boots and goes through its startup routine, the screen will blip and then the text that is scrolling by on the screen prior to starting the gui interface, reduces in size. Now, the screen still does a slight blip, but the screen font remains the same size as it was prior to the blip. I have no idea how to fix this behaviour. If someone knows and can provide direction, I would appreciate it. Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Problem after emerge --update --deep world
Hi all, This issue is related to my desktop. Bear with me while I give some background details. A couple of months ago, I followed the MySQL Upgrade Guide to upgrade MySQL. At that time, some configuration files were changed. I don't know specifically if those changes had anything to do with a problem that developed. The problem was that when I logged out of KDE and chose to either restart or shutdown the computer, neither of these occurred. The monitor would shut off, but not the computer. A week or so ago, I did the gcc upgrade using the GCC Upgrade Guide and much to my pleasure, the problem of not being able to reboot or shutdown when I selected those choices from the menu on KDE logout disappeared. On Sunday, I started an 'emerge --update --deep world'. A number of kde 3.4.3 packages were pulled in (I orginally emerged kde-meta). The update went fine. At the end, I ran etc-update and 4 configuration files related to kde were updated. The files were: klipperrc, ksslcalist, kdmrc, and libkleopatrarc. Now, after the update, I again cannot reboot or shutdown when I select either of the choices from the menu on KDE logout. I figured that kdmrc, might be a logical file to be causing the problem and I *did* find a Shutdown section in this file with the lines related to shutdown and reboot commented out. I removed the '#' and used the suggested defaults - /sbin/halt and /sbin/reboot. Well, this didn't solve the problem, so I tried editing the related lines to /etc/init.d/shutdown.sh and /etc/init.d/reboot.sh. This didn't solve the problem either. So, in a nutshell, I still cannot shutdown or reboot when I select these from the menu on KDE logout. Any ideas here? Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Install Issue update
Devon Miller wrote: Do you have CONFIG_CPU_FREQ defined in your kernel config? I have an HP laptop where I have seen similar behavior. After dealing with it for some time, I tracked it down to a problem with changing the cpu's frequency. For a very small period after the clock is changed, the thermal sensor reads back nonsense. I've seen readings like 69... 69... 95... 70... and that's with 0.5 second sampling. I've found 2 workarounds: 1) The quick and easy way: /etc/init.d/powernowd stop Now, build x.org http://x.org /etc/init.d/powernowd start Of course you'll need to replace powernowd with what ever power management daemon you have emerged. 2) The uglier, but potentially more useful fix: I haven't tried your suggestions yet. At first, I didn't think this could be a heating issue. The reason for this was twofold. First, I hadn't explicitly followed the instructions in the ACPI Guide, so I figured that because of this maybe it was causing some wonky behaviour. Second, I had the laptop into Dell 6 months ago and they did extensive diagnostics and ultimately replaced the fan. However, I changed my thoughs after reading some of the replies in this thread, most of the unified assumption that it *was* a heating issue. Also, when I was doing the original install of the Gentoo base system, I selected to have ACPI built into the kernel, but didn't change any of the defaults that were selected in genkernel. Hence, I was trying to rebuild prior to following the remaining instructions in the ACPI Guide and the laptop shutdown in the middle of the kernel build. Luckiy, on reboot, it defaulted to the good kernel build. Anyway, because of this, I gave up last night. I guess when I initially tried to build xorg-x11 and it bombed, I never let the laptop properly cool down. I retried tonight and successfully got the new kernel to build and am now creating the scripts as directed in the ACPI Guide. Once I've done this, I will try again with building xorg-x11 and will try the above suggestions. Thanks to all who replied to this. I'm really hoping that I can get Gentoo installed on my laptop. For me, after trying Gentoo, everything else pales in comparison! Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Install Issue - Success!
Mariusz Pękala wrote: El Domingo, 11 de Diciembre de 2005 11:42, C. Beamer escribió: My issue is this: The computer powered off in the middle of the install of xorg-x11. This has happened a couple of times. I haven't been having problems with the laptop, so I'm pretty sure the issue has something to do with power management since I built power management into the kernel, but didn't emerge acpid. On 2005-12-11 17:32:46 +0100 (Sun, Dec), Rafael Fernández López wrote: I can't find any sense at that issue: I can't understand what's the reason that make your computer turn off in a compilation. Well... I'm afraid of temperature. I hope that's not the reason, but is the first thing that came to my mind. Maybe in your laptop (I've an Amilo Fujitsu Siemens, and when compiling OO or KDE it is really hot), when it reachs some temperature it turns off because of security reasons. I cannot find any other reason. I vote for temperature issues too. That is my experience with some Aristo laptop - it get very hot very easily and powers off when temperature exceeds 85 C. As it turned out, it *was* a temperature issue. But it was also an acpi issue which was my fault and my stupidity for not reading the Gentoo ACPI Guide. Once I recompiled the kernel and set up ACPI with the scripts as outlined in the Guide, I was able to emerge xorg-x11 no problem. The laptop got warm, but nowhere near hot! :-) The more I deal with Gentoo, the more I realize that the Gentoo documentation is an invaluable resource and there can't be enough said about it! :-) Thanks again to all who responded to this thread. Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Laptop Install Issue
Hi all, I've become so enamoured with Gentoo that I've decided to install on my laptop. However, I'm having a bit of a problem. I'm at the point where I can boot the system and I've been trying to install xorg-x11. However, the laptop keeps powering off on me. This wasn't a problem until I build the kernel where I built acpi support into it. However, I *didn't* read the ACPI Guide and obviously, should have. That's no big problem, I'll just recompile the kernel and follow what the Guide says. My issue is this: The computer powered off in the middle of the install of xorg-x11. This has happened a couple of times. I haven't been having problems with the laptop, so I'm pretty sure the issue has something to do with power management since I built power management into the kernel, but didn't emerge acpid. Anyway, since the emerge of xorg-x11 has bombed a couple of times, is there anything that I should do in the way of clean up before trying to emerge it again? Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Install Issue
Allan Gottlieb wrote: At Sun, 11 Dec 2005 10:42:13 + C. Beamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm at the point where I can boot the system and I've been trying to install xorg-x11. However, the laptop keeps powering off on me. This wasn't a problem until I build the kernel where I built acpi support into it. However, I *didn't* read the ACPI Guide and obviously, should have. That's no big problem, I'll just recompile the kernel and follow what the Guide says. Had you built xorg-x11 when the kernel didn't have acpi support? I ask because a long build could be raising the temperature of your laptop and it is shutting off to save itself from frying. I have had dell service replace motherboards on two laptops because of this problem. Actually, my laptop is a Dell. To answer your question, I had build acpi into the kernel prior to trying to emerge xorg-x11. However, I didn't change any of the default selections that were there when I ran genkernel --menuconfig all. The think I didn't do was emerge acpid and adjust the settings as per the instructions in the ACPI Guide. I'm going to try this now to see if that fixes the problem. Another thing, there was a choice to build Dell laptop support into the kernel and I selected this. Hopefully, that isn't 'causing anything quirky. Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] amaroK issue
Richard Fish wrote: On 12/6/05, Andrew Gaydenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Colleen, I have found a xine engine as the most stable for me. Seconded. -Richard Thanks to both Andrew and Richard for the response. I struggled with this until today. I *did* try to take your advice, but amaroK still hung after selecting to change the engine. The cure was that I emerged a newer version masked version of amaroK and that did the trick. And guess what? In version 1.3.6 of amaroK, the engine defaulted to xine! Again, thanks. Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] amaroK issue
Hi all, I've finished rebuilding my system after upgrading gcc. I had to fix a couple of things, but everything is working fine except amaroK. amaroK will start and as normal, put its icon in the system tray, but if I hover the mouse over the icon, I get a timer displayed, which remains there and I can't start the program. I just discovered that kde-base/artsplugin-akode is masked and ergo, did not get installed on my system. Does anyone know if this is what might be causing the problem that I'm having? If not, does anyone have any other suggestions? Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Strange ALSA issue
Hi, I'm certainly not an authority here, but I suffered some minor pains getting alsa to work after upgrading gcc. I referred to the Alsa Gentoo Linux Guide. Marc Morrisette wrote: I just got done following the GCC migration guide on 3 computers. It went smoothly on 2 of them, everything works fine, but on the third, after I recompiled the kernel, alsa-driver won't compile. I'm using vanilla-sources 2.6.14.2 http://2.6.14.2, the kernel options are all identical to what they were before I did the GCC migration. It's getting stuck very early in the ALSA compile: In file included from /var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.10_rc3/work/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc3/include/adriver.h:765, from /var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.10_rc3/work/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc3/acore/sgbuf.c:13: include/linux/pci.h:392: error: parse error before numeric constant make[4]: *** [/var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.10_rc3/work/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc3/acore/sgbuf.o] Error 1 make[3]: *** [/var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.10_rc3/work/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc3/acore] Error 2 make[2]: *** [_module_/var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.10_rc3/work/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc3] Error 2 make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.14.2 http://2.6.14.2' make: *** [compile] Error 2 !!! ERROR: media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.10_rc3 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 96, Exitcode 2 !!! Make Failed !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. From this, it looks like you are trying to install alsa-driver and according to the guide, if you install the driver, you do not compile alsa with the kernel. At least that's what worked for me. I selected to compile sound into the kernel and then emerged alsa driver and followed the remaining steps in the Guide and alsa works fine. HTH. Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] gcc Upgrade Problem
Hi all,
I was upgrading gcc using the directions in the GCC Upgrade Guide. All
was going well. I was user what the Guide refers to as the safer
method. I got to the 321 of 642 mark and the upgrade bombed.
The specific upgrade being done was cyrus-sasl. Early in the output it
complained about both gdbm and berkdb USE flags being set. Then, a
message was displayed that it would be best to build this package with
berkdb and told me how to set this in my package.use file. The build
waited 10 seconds and then proceeded. This occurred overnight, so I'm
just finding this out.
Immediately after waiting the 10 seconds for a response to the db issue,
the build process displayed this message:
* If you are still using postfix-sasl-saslauthd-pam-mysql for
* authentication, please edit /etc/conf.d/saslauthd to read:
* SASLAUTHD_OPTS=${SASLAUTH_MECH} -a pam -r
* Don't forget to restart the service: `/etc/init.d/saslauthd restart`.
I'm not exactly sure what this means. I do have mysql on my system and
have to provide a password when I use the database associated with it,
but beyond that, I don't know if I should be doing what this message is
telling me or not. Assistance here would be appreciated.
Again, a pause for 10 seconds occurred while waiting for a response, but
since I was asleep and didn't give one, the build went ahead.
The configure process completed and the make started.
The last few lines before the make process bombed and the first couple
of lines of the error message are as follows:
ar cru .libs/libsasldb.a db_gdbm.o allockey.o
ar: allockey.o: No such file or directorymake[2]: *** [libsasldb.a] Error 1
make[2]: *** [libsasldb.a] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/cyrus-sasl-2.1.20/work/cyrus-sasl-2.1.20/sasldb'
If I am interpreting this correctly, it the configure and build went
ahead using gdbm rather than berkdb and the correction would be to edit
my package.use file as previously indicated and rebuild.
However, my issue is that since I was at the 321/642 point of doing the
'emerge -e' world' portion of the upgrade, I don't know how to rectify
the problems and continue with the upgrade. Or do I have to start from
scratch with the 'emerge -e world'?
Can someone offer some guidance here?
I apologize for the length of this, but wanted to make sure that I
included all the details that might be relevant.
Regards,
Colleen
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[gentoo-user] xmms crashes
Hi, Up until the day before yesterday, xmms worked fine and I was able to play audio files. On the weekend, I updated the kernel following the instructions in the Kernel Upgrade Guide. Everything went fine. When I rebooted the computer my kmix icon was x'd out, so I unmerged alsa-driver and reinstalled it and then things were fine. At this point, xmms still worked. Then, I upgraded x11 and although xmms opens, it crashes whenever I try to play an audio file. I tried totally unmerging it and all it's dependencies, but that didn't work. I've tried looking on the forums and in the bug list, but can't see anything that appears the same. Any ideas? Take care, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms crashes
Thanks for the response, but . :-) Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: Hi, try removing the config and menurc in ~/.xmms, Actually, I removed the whole ~/.xmms directory after the fresh install. Did you use any visual plugins? I have the blursk and blur-scope plugins installed, but they are disabled. I don't know if this means anything, but I did notice a message when xmms and its dependencies were installing - something about that I should run aclocal. I tried running aclocal and I got this message: aclocal-1.9: `configure.ac' or `configure.in' is required I'm at a loss as to what this means. I *do* have a 'configure.ac' in the /usr/share/libtool/libltdl/ directory. Take care, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms crashes - solved
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: Hi, try removing the config and menurc in ~/.xmms, Did you use any visual plugins? Because this are a little brittle and break easily after any upgrade. Just though I'd let the list know, I've solved the problem. Seems that xmms didn't like mikmod. When I installed modplugxmms, it worked fine. Take care. Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get spellchecking to work on evolution
Hi, Alex Bennee wrote: Although its enabled evolution never picks up any mis-spelled words. I suspect its something to do with the fact no dictionaries are selectable in the preferences dialog. I have aspell-en installed but that doesn't seem to be enough. Any ideas? I don't know if this will help, but make sure that you've emerged ispell and/or aspell. I had aspell installed, but couldn't spell check in another application because I needed ispell installed. HTH. Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown/Restart Issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philip Webb wrote: On Friday 04 November 2005 20:49, C. Beamer wrote: Recently, when trying to restart or shutdown my computer using the K menu "Log Out" selection, which gives the options to "End Current Session", "Restart the Computer", "Turn of the Computer". If I select to restart or turn off, my monitor shuts down, but the computer itself neither restarts or shuts off. For "shut off", the problem could result from a recent kernel update, if you didn't activate the config line to allow power management. I'm not sure if that would affect "restart" as well. That's just 1 suggestion: HTH. Not the case in this situation. True, when I did an emerge recently, it downloaded new kernel sources, but I haven't installed them yet. (This is because I am working on something that has a deadline and I've never updated the kernel in Gentoo before. Despite the fact that the Gentoo documentation is excellent, I don't want to risk making a "boo-boo" and then being at a point where I might have to spend days correcting my mistake.) Regards, Colleen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDbH937FsR4jhcRJoRAk/1AKC4nqAfcYWdFnwOtPe2owM3SkkGxQCg1yzN rt2jAuqqvbYrUFGdn5dC9Qc= =gI0v -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown/Restart Issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martins Steinbergs wrote: On Friday 04 November 2005 20:49, C. Beamer wrote: Hi All, Recently, I've started to experience an issue when trying to restart or shutdown my computer using the K menu "Log Out" selection, which gives the options to "End Current Session", "Restart the Computer", "Turn of the Computer" and of course, "Cancel". If I select to restart or turn off the computer, the computer will do neither. My monitor shuts down, but the computer itself neither restarts or shuts off depending on which selection I've made. i,v run into this problem few weeks ago too with no luck fixing it. yes, and sometimes shutdown from console fails too. only guess in list was - "It seems X f***s up your video memory, or something of this kind". Anyway should check forums and bugs for something similar. Well, I'm certainly not an authority here, but based on your comment, I do recall that when I did a recent update (either the emerge of Open Office 2.0 or the upgrade of MySQL), one of them changed some files that were related to X and QT (sorry, this isn't a very good description - I just saw the listing go by on the screen). At the end of the emerge, I got told that some configuration files in /etc had changed and what to do to find out out the files were. When I ran etc-update, it then gave me 3 choices regarding what to do -1, -3, and - -5. I chose the -3 options, which replaces the config files. However, even knowing this, and surmising that this might be the problem, I have no idea what to do to correct it. Regards, Colleen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDbINb7FsR4jhcRJoRAizDAKDFaHqCqjWzypohH/4Z3rbrjLsRhQCgx7ZD 2UKDOF/UhVAd3TS7kmZyJfA= =hG2/ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] Visited web sites
Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, My wife is asking if there is an easy way to keep a list of all web sites visited on a specific computer in the house. I don't know about such stuff. Is there any way to do that for either Mozilla or Firefox? In Firefox: Edit -- Preferences -- Select the Privancy Icon and then click the + sign beside History. You can enter the number of days that you want to retain history for sites visited. Enter a number of days that you think is appropriate. Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] MySQL issue
John Jolet wrote: On Nov 3, 2005, at 1:15 PM, Jeff Smelser wrote: On Thursday 03 November 2005 07:49 am, C. Beamer wrote: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111) I I do have the file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock Thats a connection refused message.. Make sure the proper mysql files are there, and you may need to restart it to load your versions of the grant tables. you might also shut down mysql, verify that all processes are gone, and make sure that file is gone. that file should ONLY exist while mysql is running. Both of the above tips helped. I'm not sure what happened, but I think that mysql was not shutting down properly. Anyway, I finally gave up, unmerged the upgraded mysql depcleaned and then deleted a few files that did not get removed with the unmerge process, did a fresh install of mysql and everything seems to be working again. Just wanted to say thanks! :-) Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Shutdown/Restart Issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, Recently, I've started to experience an issue when trying to restart or shutdown my computer using the K menu Log Out selection, which gives the options to End Current Session, Restart the Computer, Turn of the Computer and of course, Cancel. If I select to restart or turn off the computer, the computer will do neither. My monitor shuts down, but the computer itself neither restarts or shuts off depending on which selection I've made. I *can* restart or shutdown properly if I do it from the command line in a terminal window. This probably isn't a specific Gentoo issue. It *could* be a KDE issue, but I haven't done anything to KDE. When I installed KDE in September, I emerged kde-meta. I don't recall if there have been updates since then, but I know that I could shutdown or restart using the menu selection and no changes were made to KDE since before this behaviour started. This seemed to start around the same time as I upgraded mysql. I don't know specifically if that had anything to do with it. I'm just saying that this behaviour started around that time and up until then, everything was fine. Any ideas? Regards, Colleen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDa60h7FsR4jhcRJoRAh8uAJ9jLGfiwOKvEOSUIM/ZT68athfCNACguDYZ wfiSmWu9NoIINEgEgJPY/pM= =XoUS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] MySQL issue
Hi, Without going into a long drawn out explanation, I was having a problem with something on my system and though that maybe it was because of the upgrade I did to MySQL. So, I decided I was going to unmerge MySQL and emerge it again. That may have been a dumb move, but what the heck, you learn by your mistakes right? Anyway, that seemed to be fine, but now, I'm getting an error message: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111) I googled for this and gather that it has something to do with the placement of the mysqld.sock file. The problem is the only post that I found that was specific to Gentoo was in German. Since I don't want to screw things up any more than they already are, I'm turning here for help. I do have the file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock How do I fix this? Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] MySQL Upgrade
Jeff Smelser wrote: On Tuesday 01 November 2005 04:58 pm, C. Beamer wrote: The database that I had created by creating a directory that was named after the database that I had created when using FC4 and then copying my database related files into it, did not back up. Hence my assumption that because the database was *not* created in MySQL under Gentoo, perhaps this was the reason that the backup did not pick up (for lack of a better description) this database. How were you backing/restoring it from, if you were not using mysqldump then? I have done the above several times, and its always backed it up. This is probably more of an explanation than you require, but I'm going to give it anyway. :-) Back a couple of years ago, I was looking for a database program that I could use in Linux. The database that I'm speaking about in this thread was originally created in Microsoft Access. At that time, it was the last hurdle that kept me regularly going into Windows on my home computer. I read a bit about MySQL and since I had taken a basic DB2 course a number of years ago, I figured that I could get the database into MySQL by exporting it as a text file and then using that to create the MySQL database. So, that tells you that I am not a database guru by any means. Up until now, what I needed to do in MySQL, I could do just fine and never even knew about mysqldump until recently. As I previously stated, I've only been using Gentoo since September. When I used to use FC4, all I ever did was make a copy of the database files that had the extensions of .MYI, .MYD and .frm and then when I needed to because of an upgrade where I wiped my system, I would just create a directory in the appropriate place that was named after the database and then copy these files back into the directory. Then, all I would have to do was set up the appropriate permissions for access and I could use the database. This is how I did it to get the database into Gentoo originally as well. This works and is not a big deal. As I said, I'm just curious if there is a way to fix things so that my database will be backed up properly with the mysqldump process that is run when upgrading. As I also stated, I haven't had the chance to try dumping the existing database alone using mysqldump. Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] MySQL Upgrade
Hi, Jeff Smelser wrote: On Sunday 30 October 2005 05:15 pm, C. Beamer wrote: The instructions on the Gentoo website for upgrading gave a step by step to create a backup of my database. However, when I went to restore the database after the upgrade, the restore didn't work. I'm thinking that it was because of the way I got my database files into MySQL when I initially installed MySQL under Gentoo. The problem here, is your not giving us enough to say what really went wrong with the restore. If you have innodb tables, for example, you can't just restore them in all cases, without tweaking things a bit.. Your just assuming what the issue was, and telling us, then saying we should tweak things based off something you really dont know.. Nothing went wrong with the restore per se. And you're right, I am assuming the problem. A better description would have been that the restore worked. However, the only database that was restored was the test database. The database that I had created by creating a directory that was named after the database that I had created when using FC4 and then copying my database related files into it, did not back up. Hence my assumption that because the database was *not* created in MySQL under Gentoo, perhaps this was the reason that the backup did not pick up (for lack of a better description) this database. This is not a real big deal. I can perform the same workaround that I did this time. I was just curious if there was a way to fix this so that my database would back up properly. A suggestion was made that I try to dump this database using mysqldump. It was stated that if I can use the database, which I can, I should be able to dump it. I haven't had a chance to try this yet. Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] MySQL Upgrade
Hi all, I just upgraded MySQL using the instructions on the Gentoo website. For the most part, everything went fine and now everything works, but I had to make a couple of adjustments. My question now is if there is a proper way to do what I did as a workaround. In September, when I wiped Fedora Core off my main system and installed Gentoo, I had a MySQL database that I used for one reason and one reason only. To get my database files from the FC4 system to Gentoo, I just copied them to a ZIP drive. When I installed MySQL, in /var/lib/mysql/ I created a directory with the name of my database and copied my database related files into that directory. Then I set up the users allowed to access to the database. This worked fine and is the workaround that I had to do today after upgrading MySQL. The instructions on the Gentoo website for upgrading gave a step by step to create a backup of my database. However, when I went to restore the database after the upgrade, the restore didn't work. I'm thinking that it was because of the way I got my database files into MySQL when I initially installed MySQL under Gentoo. Is there a way to rectify this so that the backup will work for future upgrades? Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] MySQL Upgrade
Qian Qiao wrote: The instructions on the Gentoo website for upgrading gave a step by step to create a backup of my database. However, when I went to restore the database after the upgrade, the restore didn't work. I'm thinking that it was because of the way I got my database files into MySQL when I initially installed MySQL under Gentoo. Is there a way to rectify this so that the backup will work for future upgrades? What was the error message, if it was about the key length exceeding 1000, then you hit a known bug. No, I didn't get any error messages on restoring the database that was created by the backup process that was included in the instructions. Also, the process for fixing the grant tables was fine. However, when I started mysql and tried to use the database, I was told that the database didn't exist and upon checking, I discovered that the only database that was there was test. So, in essence, the restore *did* work, but the backup just didn't pick up my database. Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] MySQL Upgrade
Qian Qiao wrote: On 10/30/05, C. Beamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Qian Qiao wrote: What was the error message, if it was about the key length exceeding 1000, then you hit a known bug. No, I didn't get any error messages on restoring the database that was created by the backup process that was included in the instructions. Also, the process for fixing the grant tables was fine. However, when I started mysql and tried to use the database, I was told that the database didn't exist and upon checking, I discovered that the only database that was there was test. So, in essence, the restore *did* work, but the backup just didn't pick up my database. So the mysqldump you did on the 4.0 didn't dump the databases other than test, hmmm. That's correct. And as stated in my original post, I think it might have something to do with the way I got the database into Gentoo - a mkdir named after the database and then copy the related database files into the directory. Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Open Office and ODBC Connection to MySQL
Hi all, I'm tearing my hair out by the roots on this one. First, I had a bit of a problem getting the the ODBC connection to my MySQL database set up. That was my own fault though 'cause a couple of files that I though were supposed to go in /etc (that's where they went in Fedora Core) were actually supposed to go in /etc/unixODBC/. So, I got the connection set up okay. The issue that I'm having is that once I got the ODBC connection working, I can view the data source in Open Office, but cannot edit the table. I took a look on Gentoo Forums and I found one similar issue except that it turned out that the person did not have a primary key set. I have a primary key set in the MySQL database, but I still can't edit the table in Open Office. I have no idea what to try next. I'm using the ebuild openoffice-bin-1.1.5. However, I tried the openoffice-ximian ebuild and had no better luck with that. I don't think its a permission problem 'cause I checked this and I am a member of the mysql group. Any ideas? Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: ODBC Connection to MySQL and necessary packages
Hi, I have further info to that listed below. As stated below, I followed the same instructions to set this up in Gentoo as I did in Fedora Core. However, this morning, I was doing a google search to see if I could find more information. The document that I followed has had a revision and now to create an ODBC connection to a MySQL database, you need 2 things: 1) MyODBC, which I have installed, and 2) MySQL-shared The documentation that this was taken from was using an rpm based system for the example, and ergo, the MySQL-shared referenced was an rpm package. I've tried googling for 'mysql-shared and gentoo', but I can't figure out what Gentoo package this might refer to. Does anyone know? Regards, Colleen C. Beamer wrote: Hello all, I am trying to set up an ODBC connection to a MySQL database. I have done this before when I used Fedora Core, but when I tried to do it today on my Gentoo system, I got an error message when I tested the connection. I have both UnixODBC and myodbc installed. The instructions that I previously followed to set this up in Fedora were as follows: create 2 files - odbcinst.ini and odbc.ini These files were supposed to be in /etc. In Fedora Core, there were templates to use, but I had to completely create the files in Gentoo. In the odbcinst.ini file, the line for the driver when I did this in Fedora Core was: Driver = /usr/lib/libmyodbc.so In Gentoo, there is no libmyodbc.so. There is, however, a libmyodbc3.so which is a symlink to libmyodbc3-3.51.11.so Therefore, I used /usr/lib/libmyodbc3.so as the driver. In the odbc.ini file, the proper name of the database was listed. After creating the odbcinst.ini and odbc.ini files,, I ran 'isql MySQL-home home' which was supposed to test the connectivity to the database and I got the error [ISQL]ERROR: Could not SQLConnect When I did a google search for the error message, I came across a post where it was asked what the output of isql -v was. I ran this on my system and got the following message: [IM010][unixODBC][Driver Manager]Data source name too long I've posted to the UnixODBC support list, but my reason for posting here is to ask if anyone knows whether the instructions that I used to set this up should have been done differently in Gentoo. And for what it's worth, although the database was created when I used Fedora Core and then, copied into the appropriate place in Gentoo, the database works fine when I use it from within MySQL. Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Omitting blocked package when updating world
Rumen Yotov wrote: On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 19:09 -0400, C. Beamer wrote: Hi, I've had Gentoo installed on my main computer for about a month now and want to update world. When I did 'emerge --pretend --update --deep world' I got told that a package that I had installed was blocking another package. I want to update but omit the blocked package from the update, which incidentally is not installed on my system. Regards, Colleen Hi, Think it mostly depends on which is the package in question. Seen three types of package blocking: 1.a new version blocking the old version of the same package - remove it then add again; 2.A new package wants to install but there is another package serving the same role, e.g mail-server: qmail, postfix, exim all provide - virtual/mta (IIRC), so only one could get installed; 3.Think it's your case. Some other package (which is installed) has a *new* dependency on another one (not installed), which provides the same 'virtual/...' as third one (installed). This could happen when using -D/--deep flag - try without it to check and use -t/-tree option to see the deps. But it depends on the package in question friends. HTH.Rumen I went to the painstaking effort of updating each package on my system that required updating individually and am left with this, which is the result of 'emerge --pretend --update --deep world': Calculating world dependencies ...done! [blocks B ] mail-client/pine-4.64-r1 (is blocking net-mail/uw-mailutils-2004g) [ebuild N] net-mail/uw-mailutils-2004g [ebuild U ] mail-client/pine-4.64-r1 [4.63-r2] From this, I assume that the installed package, Pine, is blocking the package nw-mail-utils-2004g, which is *not* installed. So, how do I prevent uw-mailutils-2004g from being installed so I can update Pine? Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Omitting blocked package when updating world
Holly Bostick wrote: C. Beamer schreef: I went to the painstaking effort of updating each package on my system that required updating individually and am left with this, which is the result of 'emerge --pretend --update --deep world': Calculating world dependencies ...done! [blocks B ] mail-client/pine-4.64-r1 (is blocking net-mail/uw-mailutils-2004g) [ebuild N] net-mail/uw-mailutils-2004g [ebuild U ] mail-client/pine-4.64-r1 [4.63-r2] From this, I assume that the installed package, Pine, is blocking the package nw-mail-utils-2004g, which is *not* installed. So, how do I prevent uw-mailutils-2004g from being installed so I can update Pine? Regards, Colleen You can't-- this is a normal block: Remove (unemerge) Pine, then merge the updated version, so the dependencies will be installed prior to the program they depend on. Thank you, Holly .. :-) For the right answer, for your patience with a newbie to Gentoo and for always seeming to have the right answer to any post that you reply to. I learned something new today. I *did* try using equery to determine the dependencies of pine and uw-mailutils-2004g, but didn't get any dependencies listed. Anyway, next time, I won't have to bother the list with a like problem. :-) Take care, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] ODBC Connection to MySQL database
Hello all, I am trying to set up an ODBC connection to a MySQL database. I have done this before when I used Fedora Core, but when I tried to do it today on my Gentoo system, I got an error message when I tested the connection. I have both UnixODBC and myodbc installed. The instructions that I previously followed to set this up in Fedora were as follows: create 2 files - odbcinst.ini and odbc.ini These files were supposed to be in /etc. In Fedora Core, there were templates to use, but I had to completely create the files in Gentoo. In the odbcinst.ini file, the line for the driver when I did this in Fedora Core was: Driver = /usr/lib/libmyodbc.so In Gentoo, there is no libmyodbc.so. There is, however, a libmyodbc3.so which is a symlink to libmyodbc3-3.51.11.so Therefore, I used /usr/lib/libmyodbc3.so as the driver. In the odbc.ini file, the proper name of the database was listed. After creating the odbcinst.ini and odbc.ini files,, I ran 'isql MySQL-home home' which was supposed to test the connectivity to the database and I got the error [ISQL]ERROR: Could not SQLConnect When I did a google search for the error message, I came across a post where it was asked what the output of isql -v was. I ran this on my system and got the following message: [IM010][unixODBC][Driver Manager]Data source name too long I've posted to the UnixODBC support list, but my reason for posting here is to ask if anyone knows whether the instructions that I used to set this up should have been done differently in Gentoo. And for what it's worth, although the database was created when I used Fedora Core and then, copied into the appropriate place in Gentoo, the database works fine when I use it from within MySQL. Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Omitting blocked package when updating world
Hi, I've had Gentoo installed on my main computer for about a month now and want to update world. When I did 'emerge --pretend --update --deep world' I got told that a package that I had installed was blocking another package. I want to update but omit the blocked package from the update, which incidentally is not installed on my system. I looked in the Gentoo documentation which told me that I had 2 options - to omit the blocked package or remove the blocked package. Since the blocked package is not installed on my system, my only option is to omit, but I couldn't find how to omit it in the documentation. Nor, could I figure out from the man page how to do it. So what do I use to omit a package from being updated when I want to run 'emerge --update --deep world' Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Scanner Trouble
Hi, When I first installed Gentoo on my main machine about a month ago, my scanner was working just fine. I don't use it that much, but today when I went to use it (using xsane), I got a message that no devices were found. I checked dmesg and as far as I can tell, there doesn't seem to be anything wrong. The only thing that I did that might have affected it (although it doesn't seem to have affected anything else) is: emerge --update --deep mozilla-firefox (because there was an updated Firefox package) When I did this, emerge updated 26 packages including some x packages, so I don't know if this is what is causing the problem. The scanner works in Window - I tested it to be sure that it wasn't a scanner problem. Additionally, I used to have this problem when I ran FC4 all the time. I have a USB printer, zip drive and game pad all connected to my system and all work fine. The scanner is USB as well and in FC4, I used to always have to remove the usb cable and plug it back in again and then I could get xsane to recognize the scanner. However, I tried that and had no luck. Any ideas? Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Scanner Trouble - Solved (I think)
Hi all, I honestly don't know what I did. I was playing around checking different settings and now xsane works fine. Sorry for the bother. Regards, Colleen C. Beamer wrote: Hi, When I first installed Gentoo on my main machine about a month ago, my scanner was working just fine. I don't use it that much, but today when I went to use it (using xsane), I got a message that no devices were found. I checked dmesg and as far as I can tell, there doesn't seem to be anything wrong. The only thing that I did that might have affected it (although it doesn't seem to have affected anything else) is: emerge --update --deep mozilla-firefox (because there was an updated Firefox package) When I did this, emerge updated 26 packages including some x packages, so I don't know if this is what is causing the problem. The scanner works in Window - I tested it to be sure that it wasn't a scanner problem. Additionally, I used to have this problem when I ran FC4 all the time. I have a USB printer, zip drive and game pad all connected to my system and all work fine. The scanner is USB as well and in FC4, I used to always have to remove the usb cable and plug it back in again and then I could get xsane to recognize the scanner. However, I tried that and had no luck. Any ideas? Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Cups does not see devices
Hi, I had a situation when I was trying to get my Laser Jet printer recognized. I was fine with the ink jet, which was connected via usb, but the laser was connected to a parallel port. I had to recompile the kernel and select Device Drivers -- Parallel Port Support -- *Parallel Port Support * PC-Style Hardware Don't know if this is a solution to your problem, but thought I would post anyway. Regards, Colleen Paweł Madej wrote: Hello, I got problem with my FreeBSD box. I installed cups cups-base and other stuff for it and when i try to add printer via webinterface it don't see any device (like parallel, usb, http and so on). Anybody got idea what could cause it? And how to resolve that problem? Thanks for any help Pawel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Mail configuration problem
Hi all, Yesterday, I posted asking for a Gentoo equivalent of something I was able to do in Fedora, I got some answers which were of assistance, one being to check my logwatch.conf file to see what the frequency was set at. This helped because it was set weekly and since I had just installed logwatch the day before, I would have had to wait a week to see if it was working, so I changed the frequency to daily. As it turns out, logwatch is working. However, what I want to be able to do is to fire up Pine and be able to view the emails sent by logwatch to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and this isn't working - I have a dead.letter file in my /root directory. I cat'ed the dead letter file and at the end, the following appears: send-mail: RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (504 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sender address rejected: need fully-qualified address) Can't send mail: sendmail process failed with error code 1 My computer is stand alone except that it has a router which is connected to my cable modem because my son connects wirelessly to the internet through that. However, his laptop and my PC have no network attachment. My resolve.conf file has proper ip information. In my hosts file, localhost is set to 127.0.0.1 My /etc/conf.d/domainname does not have a FQDN set because when I installed Gentoo, I was under the impression that I didn't need one because the computer is not networked and I obtain my ip address using dhcp Sorry, I know I'm a bit verbose here, but I have no idea where I'm going wrong, so I figure that the more details that I can provide might better enable someone to guide me in the right direction. Any help would be appreciated. Oh, and as far as I can tell, my /etc/mail/aliases file looks okay. Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mail configuration problem
Dave Nebinger wrote: I cat'ed the dead letter file and at the end, the following appears: send-mail: RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (504 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sender address rejected: need fully-qualified address) Can't send mail: sendmail process failed with error code 1 What MTA are you using, Colleen? That will be the first step to helping you to configure to allow deliveries to localhost. I'm using the Gentoo default, ssmtp. I tried to emerge sendmail, but it is blocked by ssmtp. I didn't know if I should go ahead and unmerge ssmtp and emerge sendmail or not. I only really need it for this one function. Take care, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ntsysv equivalent
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 23:11:02 -0400, C. Beamer wrote:
Is there a default length of time before logrotate will rotate the log
files?
Do you have a config file for syslog-ng in /etc/logrotate.d? This should
have been installed when you merged syslog-ng. If not, you'll find the
file at /usr/portage/app-admin/syslog-ng/files/syslog-ng.logrotate, copy
it to /etc/logrotate.d/syslog-ng.
Yes, I have /etc/logrotate.d/syslog-ng. This is what it says, but I
have no idea what it means (I'm not a programmer):
/var/log/messages {
sharedscripts
postrotate
/etc/init.d/syslog-ng reload /dev/null 21 || true
endscript
Regards,
Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] ntsysv equivalent (and logrotate frequency)
John Myers wrote: On Saturday 17 September 2005 20:11, C. Beamer wrote: Is there a default length of time before logrotate will rotate the log files? check in /etc/logrotate.conf. I believe the default is weekly. Also, if your system is not run continuously, you may want to look into anacron, as logrotate is run as a daily cron job Actally, I think the problem was that I didn't have a logrotate.conf file. I copied the one from /usr/portage/app-admin/logrotate/files/ and put it in my /etc directory. For future reference, it is generally best to send separate messages to the list for separate topics. i.e. one message for logrotate, and one message for the service viewer. Makes it easier for potential responders to find interesting questions, and for people searching for answers to find them. Sorry! :-( I'll remember this in future. Thanks! :-) Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. (Thanks to Neil Bothwick, too! :-) ) Gentoo is terrific, but a bit of a learning curve when you come from a distro that does all the configuration for you. However, I aspire to be a geek like Holly (and that's meant as a sincere compliment, although I'll never be that good, but one can dream!), so I'm determined to learn this stuff. Once I've done it once, I'll know for the next time. Take care, Colleen Also, does Gentoo have an equivalent to ntsysv where you can set services to stop and start? I assume that when you issue the command rc-update add program name default that this essentially is telling some service to start at boot time. Correct. However, if there is something like ntsysv available where you can see the services that are running, I would appreciate being told what it is. as Daevid Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: rc-update show also rc-status -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] A Gentoo Equivalent
Hi all, I'm not sure how to do the equivalent of the following in Gentoo, so any help would be appreciated. When I used Fedora Core, on a daily basis, I could fire up Pine (or Mutt) and would get an e-mail that was essentially the output from my log files. One of the things that would be listed is the listing for the cron jobs that I had set up (and the outcome), for instance, running the perl script that updates the virus definitions for F-prot. In Pine, which is what I use, the mail would be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] How would this be accomplished in Gentoo? Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] ntsysv equivalent
Hi all, When I installed Gentoo, I chose syslog-ng as my system logger. It was suggested that I install logrotate to prevent my logfiles from becoming unmanagageably large. I did this. However, my /var/log/messages file includes logging from the first day that Gentoo was running on my system and that's now about 2 weeks. Is there a default length of time before logrotate will rotate the log files? This is a gentoo user list, right? That's what I am - a user. So don't laugh at this question. I was using Fedora Core, so all these things were automatically set up for me. I'm not stupid. Heck, I got Gentoo installed with only a few hitches, so I can be taught. However, if logrotate requires some configuration, I have no idea how to do it, so would appreciate some help. Also, does Gentoo have an equivalent to ntsysv where you can set services to stop and start? I assume that when you issue the command rc-update add program name default that this essentially is telling some service to start at boot time. However, if there is something like ntsysv available where you can see the services that are running, I would appreciate being told what it is. Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opinions?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Arkady Grudzinsky wrote: I would compare GUI to helper wheels for bycicles. You may need them if you can't ride, but once you know how to ride they start limiting you and getting in your way. In my experience, time spent to learn the text interface is much better invested than time spent to learn which button to push, which box to check and where the menu item is located. Text commands combined with the arsenal of standard UNIX tools (awk, sed, Perl, piping, regular expressions, output redirection, shell scripting, job scheduling) are way more powerful and flexible than any imaginable GUI. Image processing tools are exceptions (to certain extent) to which portage does not belong. Just an opinion... (you asked for one). Yes, I did ask for an opinion. :-) Just for the record, this isn't an issue of not being able to use the command line. I *love* the command line. That's one of a number of reasons that I moved to Linux. :-) However, I am still learning Gentoo and haven't yet figured out all the nuances of portage. I was just curious to find out if anyone had tried the program. I was not necessarily suggesting that I was about to jump on the bandwagon. Thanks for the opinions. As of now, I think I'll just stick to learning portage! :-) Regards, Colleen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDKeuW7FsR4jhcRJoRAnKFAKCDbB4xUxH2XQe02ozhL6xOwOJUFwCbBmpG NueM6ndzRTlHFg22MoLWNs0= =RPHq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Opinions?
Hi All, A friend (non-Gentoo user) sent me this Gentoo-related url: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=16002 I got Gentoo installed with only a few hitches and it's running like a charm since the install, but I'm still a newbie when it comes to Gentoo, so I bow to the superior knowledge of the people on this list. The url is about a KDE app called Kuroo that is supposed to be a frontend to the portage tree. You are supposed to be able to search for installed packages, among other things. Has anyone heard of this? Any opinions? Take care, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Printing Problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, Well, I'm progressing with Gentoo. I now have it on my main computer and am *very* pleased. I even managed to get my Radeon 8500 graphics card working with 3D acceleration. However, I am having problems with getting printing to work. I emerged both hal and cups. Using kde's print manager, I was able to configure my DeskJet printer - the printer was recognized in the 'Add Printer' interface. However, when I send a print job to the printer, nothing happens. Second problem is that I have another printer connected to my system. The DeskJet is connected via usb. However, I have a Laser Jet connected to the parallel port. I built parallel support into the kernel, but in the kde print manager, the printer does not appear in the 'Add Printer' interface. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Colleen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDIxAS7FsR4jhcRJoRAlB2AKCl2lqNTshfIkQb8b4iXNteRZP1IwCgjSX3 SRIqVYaNjr6+4GHwLw3pEYk= =MjyK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Printing Problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks John, Boy, do I have egg on my face with the first issue! John Jolet wrote: On Sep 10, 2005, at 11:55 AM, C. Beamer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I emerged both hal and cups. Using kde's print manager, I was able to configure my DeskJet printer - the printer was recognized in the 'Add Printer' interface. However, when I send a print job to the printer, nothing happens. On the first problem, do a tail -f on /var/log/cups/error_log and send a job. see what it says. When I did this, I discovered that user colleen was denied. In the kde printer configuration, you set users for allowed and denied. Well, I set my users okay, but didn't know that they went into the denied list instead of allowed. Once I fixed this, I was able to print just fine. The second problem is still an issue. Second problem is that I have another printer connected to my system. The DeskJet is connected via usb. However, I have a Laser Jet connected to the parallel port. I built parallel support into the kernel, but in the kde print manager, the printer does not appear in the 'Add Printer' interface. Regards, Colleen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDIykP7FsR4jhcRJoRAuFWAKCKxjdByX5bSusIM8hFvyiLWgSp+gCgsOxA arq/Kul3oMRWeRwHiz274nk= =1pMV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
