Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd as drop-in replacement for udev?

2013-12-06 Thread Tom Wijsman
and more because at this point in time sys-apps/openrc brings the file 'functions.sh' which contains some crucial functions used by those other packages. This is tracked in https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373219 -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble emerging (*not* running) systemd on stable amd64

2013-12-06 Thread Tom Wijsman
with the output of `emerge --info`? Thank you in advance. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Is there any way out of this...?

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
-openrc-force in /etc/portage/profile/use.mask to start with and then you can toggle it as you see fit. As you don't intend to run GNOME as far as I understood, this USE flag doesn't need to be masked for you. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] dev-libs/efl-1.8.0_beta2 fails to emerge on x86

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
`? Thank you in advance. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
to be able to set up a voice call in gtalk. Is it the case that now one has to install gnome-base to be able to use gstreamer? Seems so, you'll need to check with upstream or with the code for more details; but it is just one small package though. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Is there any way out of this...?

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
(although Patrick demonstrated in a blog post you can lower it quite a lot), I'm also packaging a minimal init system soon. As for other DEs, I have simply not tried them long enough to judge them... -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
think we will never be there, because systemd is not often listed as a dependency (only on ~2 or so GNOME packages?) compared to something like ncurses that is listed all over the place... -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble emerging (*not* running) systemd on stable amd64

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 12:32:12 -0500 gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Fri, Dec 06 2013, Tom Wijsman wrote: A stable ebuild being broken is concerning, the above feels like a bug to me; can you file a bug and attach the complete build log and comment with the output of `emerge --info`? Thank you

Re: [gentoo-user] booting with kernel 3.10.17 - services fail to start. Help, please!

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
share those (attach or pastebin)? -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] NFS kernel bug

2013-12-08 Thread Tom Wijsman
. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-14 Thread Tom Wijsman
-r1:2] Out of sheer curiousity, what needs gnome-base/gconf? The output tells you; pidgin needs gst-plugins-gconf, which needs gconf. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C

Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

2013-12-16 Thread Tom Wijsman
'. Lesson learnt. :'( Yeah, you will only want to run this if you really need to run it; in common, just starting from `make` after having done configuration changes suffice. You only really need a distclean with a broken build. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail

Reply-To Munging Considered Harmful (was: Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean)

2013-12-17 Thread Tom Wijsman
such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18

Re: Reply-To Munging Considered Harmful (was: Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean)

2013-12-17 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:13:16 -0600 Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 05:49:30PM +0100, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:24:58 -0600 Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: From: Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com

Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

2013-12-17 Thread Tom Wijsman
, I'm on the list. Hope you don't get as offended as some other person. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd service file for http-replicator

2013-12-24 Thread Tom Wijsman
...@gentoo.org +files/http-replicator.service, +files/http-replicator.service.conf, +http-replicator-3.0-r4.ebuild,+http-replicator-4.0_alpha2-r4.ebuild: Add unit file (#492502 by Joerg Neikes) -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG

Re: [gentoo-user] Can not update @world

2013-12-31 Thread Tom Wijsman
is near the end of its times so it might be removed some point in the future. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-user] media-libs/harfbuzz-0.9.23::gentoo failed (compile phase)

2014-01-08 Thread Tom Wijsman
/show_bug.cgi?id=497562 so the maintainers can resolve this? You can CC yourself on that bug to keep track of its resolution. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -uD @system with lots of blocks!

2014-01-09 Thread Tom Wijsman
with no parents) or alternatively mask them if you don't want to upgrade them. But, before doing that; just trying to emerge again after resolving the block might work as well, so, try that first to spare out work. :) -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom

Re: [gentoo-user] Frustrating error message from layman

2014-01-09 Thread Tom Wijsman
everything to portage:portage but that didn't change anything. I'm stumped. Unsure if that works; but if it is an error, put it back to root or otherwise just remove and reinstall layman would help. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge failed for sys-devel/binutils-2.23.2

2014-01-11 Thread Tom Wijsman
the complete build.log. Thank you very much in advance. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Purged gnome, lost X. :-(

2014-01-11 Thread Tom Wijsman
going on here? You'll want to start with inspecting ~/.xinitrc; from there on, look into the configuration of both your session and X itself. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge failed for sys-devel/binutils-2.23.2

2014-01-11 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 15:19:23 -0800 walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/11/2014 02:32 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 17:16:36 -0500 Andrew Penhorwood and...@coldbits.com wrote: * ERROR: sys-devel/binutils-2.23.2::gentoo failed (compile phase): * emake failed

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge failed for sys-devel/binutils-2.23.2

2014-01-11 Thread Tom Wijsman
in my other mail; you can add -mno-avx at the end of your CFLAGS in /etc/portage/make.conf to avoid the usage of AVX. This is just a wild guess, but I've seen this helping other Linode customers earlier that had similar problems; so, it might help you. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij

Re: [gentoo-user] Purged gnome, lost X. :-(

2014-01-12 Thread Tom Wijsman
/ might be of interest to investigate here as well. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg Configuration Acer Aspire One

2014-01-27 Thread Tom Wijsman
it needs some trial and error trying to trim the file down in order to get an idea what is what. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Kworker use 80% of CPU

2014-03-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
searching this online. As a second question, to figure out what '8' is; take a look at `cat /proc/interrupts` where the last one or two columns of that line give it a name. Feel free to share both `dmesg` and that output with us. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-03-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
those other patches will be in a release soon.) -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] acroread 9.5.5 segfault

2014-03-19 Thread Tom Wijsman
Segmentation fault. Relevant bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=488918 -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Kworker use 80% of CPU

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/acpi-devel -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] using git to track (gentoo) server configs ?

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
, anything between the most general and the most specific things is entirely in your control. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse dies after a few minutes

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
; they could reveal the underlying reason and/or the source of it. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
during systemd architecture process if there was any at all. For it to be claimed as ignored, you need to know about the process; given that you don't even know its presence, such claim can't be made. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
is to spare money for the rest out there. (Where winning means preventing your world from falling apart) -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
being something like a 10K line program, is easy to fix. [1] http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
prevail. Period. +1 -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
, this often happens as the result of a lack of manpower to support multiple systems. Others aren't stopped from forking and/or wrapping XFCE to (also) support other login facilities than logind; well, under the assumption that they would limit their support... -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
, some no parents messages during slot conflict output were nuked, ... If I can type that as part of this mail, people could follow logind. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C

Re: Providing a path for systemd on gentoo - 'profiles', or 'eselect module'? - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
/a13abacfb74999c10957 -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
for selecting from multiple runtime things, that it would (un)install something as part of it would be odd, kind of makes one remember the UNIX philosophy of doing one thing right. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
should do an appropriate job. It is actively being worked on from what can be seen. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
and then and *only* then should it (imnsho) ever be considered as a potential candidate for being made a new *default*. -1; unless, well, it has lost its controversial status in the future. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public

Re: Providing a path for systemd on gentoo - 'profiles', or 'eselect module'? - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 22:22:22 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 20/03/2014 20:57, Tom Wijsman wrote: Well, running systemd now I can reboot into OpenRC; it just works. How is this done? Here, two GRUB entries; alternatively, eselect init to switch symlinks. It's

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 02:27:11 +0600 Andrew Savchenko birc...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 21:00:27 +0100 Tom Wijsman wrote: OpenRC is default in Gentoo now, and it is my best hope it will be. Do you have a source that backs up this claim? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en

Re: [gentoo-user] ca-certificates: untrusted certificate messages during configure

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=475352 (QA involved) Also make sure you have read the post installation messages. Other than that, I suggest you wait until resolution; there have been reports here and there, so, I assume it'll be fixed in the near future. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
complicated migration later on. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 17:23:05 -0400 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 3/20/2014 4:00 PM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:53:51 +0400 Andrew Savchenko birc...@gmail.com wrote: OpenRC is default in Gentoo now, and it is my best hope it will be. Do

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 17:25:18 -0400 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 3/20/2014 4:14 PM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: Tom - please STOP CC'ing me on these emails. I am on the list and don't need two copies. Use 'Reply-To-List' function (or equivalent - or worst case

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
that fits those needs. Also: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/configure.ac#n798 -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
expect an export option providing the same detail level as I currently find in /var/log/messages. That's what you can control with the various options of -o. A timestamp is a minimum required for logging system output. Depends on how you are processing that output. -- With kind regards, Tom

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
Event-viewer has very nice filtering capabilities; beyond that, the detailed information gives you the error code that you can look up in the documentation. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/openrc.git;a=shortlog -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
and/or summary as they come online; for further details, you can read up here: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
replies. Yes, I saw that after sending this mail; for most replies I do I check up on it in advance, in this case I missed and/or forgot. Sorry. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
. Lots of people appear to respond to me. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:27:09 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:13:28 +0100, Tom Wijsman wrote: Use 'Reply-To-List' function (or equivalent - or worst case, delete my direct email manually yourself) in your email program. Like everyone else, use

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 13:41:54 +0100 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Fri, March 21, 2014 12:59, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:50:23 +0100 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: Tom, Please reply to list. No need to include me in the recipient list. Please

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: How about the gentoo server or cluster in production environment?

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
unlimited (other than by available manpower). :) -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple package instances ..... Help me understand this emerge error, please.

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
? -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple package instances ..... Help me understand this emerge error, please.

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
that you need to increase the backtracking value and try again (if no blocker). -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Compiles take much longer than in the past

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
... it is hardware. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: banshee installation without systemd

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
; Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org + +files/mate-settings-daemon-1.2.0-syndaemon-mode.patch, + +files/mate-settings-daemon-1.4.0-netfs-monitor.patch, + +mate-settings-daemon-1.6.2.ebuild, +metadata.xml: + New ebuild for mate-base/mate-settings-daemon, MATE Settings Daemon; + imported from the mate

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
that I can count on my fingers insist on not being CC-ed) is a minority. Regardless of both being a minority, they'll continue to be present. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Unable to access USB3 HDD / Pen drive

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
? If so, please file a bug at https://bugs.gentoo.org -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.18 build problem

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
if it is still reproducible today. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] World update and dev-lang/python-exec weirdness...

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
` in the installation; it is a slotted package, it only brings in the latest visible version. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
, pick the one that respects our etiquette; and along that, the same one guarantees that my time is spent wise. Similarly, would you spend time to keep asking this everytime it happens by one or another individual or just simply filter it once and for all? -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
this for details. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] No motherboard beep since kernel upgrade

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Wijsman
of both do that here. Do you see what I'm getting at? No; I don't see why I should stop following the mailing list etiquette, start relying on possibly wasting time as well as break what is fixed. But yes; for convenience, I've dropped you from CC. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Wijsman
want to be CC-ed in follow-up mails. Similarly; if someone is off-list; it takes a single mail to keep me from sending additional mails. As it clarifies a disengagement; that unsubscribing is meant to be a disengagement, I can't find that rule... -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Wijsman
they are still awaiting a reply; the only respectful guarantee that works for the both of us is if the user states a solution was found and/or addresses me to send no further emails, that gives guarantees. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Wijsman
MATE to the Portage tree; if I would work on a logind implementation, there wouldn't be MATE. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:56:17 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 13:15:49 +0100, Tom Wijsman wrote: Here's something that works for the both of us: Request someone to not CC you in a follow-up mail when you catch them do it, they'll respect that; that's

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Wijsman
. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] *** STOP misuing this list for personal attacks ***

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Wijsman
. That said, I've never been know for being tactful... ;) But what have you been known for? :) -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:28:25 -0300 luis jure l...@internet.com.uy wrote: el 2014-03-22 a las 15:50 Tom Wijsman escribió: How to set this up per folder? rigth-click on the folder, Properties... - Compose - default to: Thank you very much +1; I see some other features there too

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 16:38:54 +0100 Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:28:25 -0300 luis jure l...@internet.com.uy wrote: el 2014-03-22 a las 15:50 Tom Wijsman escribió: How to set this up per folder? rigth-click on the folder, Properties... - Compose

Re: [gentoo-user] kde-misc/synaptiks crashes immediately

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Wijsman
a debugger on that Python script if the trace, strace and/or ltrace are insufficient to reveal the cause. When you have found the cause, can you file the details in a bug at https://bugs.gentoo.org such that the maintainers are aware of this? Thank you very much in advance. -- With kind regards, Tom

Re: [gentoo-user] *** STOP misuing this list for personal attacks ***

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Wijsman
-list; that way, the topic can remain. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] No motherboard beep since kernel upgrade

2014-03-23 Thread Tom Wijsman
again; if that's the case, I suggest you to consider a git bisect between the two releases to find the bad commit: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel_git-bisect -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG

Re: [gentoo-user] *** STOP misuing this list for personal attacks ***

2014-03-23 Thread Tom Wijsman
etiquette requires people to CC all the people involved in a particular thread in replies to the mailing list, in case any of them is not subscribed. — http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Procmail -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key

Re: [gentoo-user] issue 2973

2014-03-23 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 13:35:06 +0100 Karol bgu...@gmail.com wrote: -- listname+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org B.S. Replace listname by gentoo-user; to unsubscribe, send that mail to: gentoo-user+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E

Re: [gentoo-user] *** STOP misuing this list for personal attacks ***

2014-03-23 Thread Tom Wijsman
. Sorry; I hope you see where this approach came from, I'm not trying to override a majority or intentionally act different than the community. Sorry again; thank you for your understanding. PS: To make it clear that I stopped: The last 15 mails were without CC. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman

Re: [gentoo-user] No motherboard beep since kernel upgrade

2014-03-23 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 18:35:20 +0100 null_ptr rhan...@gmx.de wrote: On 23/03/14 11:06, Tom Wijsman wrote: Switching to the old kernel fixed it so I bisected the linux-stable sources (as in the wiki) and the first bad commit is bd450dcc357. Attached is the bisect.log. Since it seems like it's

Re: [gentoo-user]

2014-03-23 Thread Tom Wijsman
with the output of `emerge --info` and attach build.log as well as config.log? Thank you in advance. If needed, resources with extra details about filing bug reports: - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Beautiful_bug_reports - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Bugzilla_HOWTO -- With kind regards, Tom

Re: [gentoo-user] rubygems-1.9.1 error

2014-03-24 Thread Tom Wijsman
Apr 20 2012 /usr/lib64/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb What now? It can't load what is on line 30 of that file; there'll be a require instruction, and that require instruction would bring in another file. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-user] rubygems-1.9.1 error

2014-03-24 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 22:44:23 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 24 Mar 2014 21:28:56 Tom Wijsman wrote: On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 20:23:55 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: /usr/lib64/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:30:in `require': cannot load such file -- rubygems

Re: [gentoo-user] How to get rid of Python2 (where possible)

2014-03-28 Thread Tom Wijsman
it is based on Python3. Why is this? Can you share us the log or output of that? -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] How to get rid of Python2 (where possible)

2014-03-28 Thread Tom Wijsman
. (Backtracking 9001 so it is sufficiently high to not cause conflicts) -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] How to get rid of Python2 (where possible)

2014-03-29 Thread Tom Wijsman
too for it to be able to function. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] How to appoint python version for a package

2014-04-02 Thread Tom Wijsman
Can you attach the complete build.log? PS: Note that I'm the maintainer of app-editors/retext. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] How to appoint python version for a package

2014-04-02 Thread Tom Wijsman
the build log such that I can reproduce and fix it. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] How to appoint python version for a package

2014-04-03 Thread Tom Wijsman
filed about this: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470962 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=489198 -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD

Re: [gentoo-user] Perl-cleaner failing

2014-04-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
instances within a single package slot have been pulled !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict: Did you upgrade your system (`emerge -auvDN @world`) prior to this? -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key

Re: [gentoo-user] Perl-cleaner failing

2014-04-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
to drive with your car (use Perl apps); you need a certificate that your car is alright (perl-cleaner), but for that to be in order you need to work on fixing up your car (upgrade). -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key

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