[gentoo-user] Video conversion

2006-06-16 Thread JimD

Does anyone know of a good guide for converting an xvid to DVD under Gentoo?
I have previously ripped a few of my kids Disney movies.  Now one is broke so
I want to burn from the backup.

Thanks for any help,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Video conversion

2006-06-16 Thread JimD

On 6/16/06, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 21:58 +, JimD wrote:
 Does anyone know of a good guide for converting an xvid to DVD under Gentoo?
 I have previously ripped a few of my kids Disney movies.  Now one is broke so
 I want to burn from the backup.

 Thanks for any help,

 JimD

Try these. Should be a simple --target DVD

*  media-video/tovid [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 0.22
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 104 kB
  Homepage:http://tovid.sourceforge.net/
  Description: Video conversion and DVD authoring tools
  License: GPL-2

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Thanks, I will give them a whirl.  The last time I needed to convert a
divx/xivd to DVD (many moons ago) I used transcode and a bunch of
other tools.  It was a mess :-)

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[gentoo-user] Editing PDF and/or postscript

2006-06-13 Thread JimD
Are there any tools/editors to edit a pdf or ps file?  I am digitizing
some books.  I have the books as pdf and can convert that to postscript,
text, html.

I would like to be able to insert a few graphics into the PDF files.  I
could convert to plain text, edit in OOo and export to PDF.  However, I
lose all formatting doing that.

I was hoping there were tools/editors for PDF/PS.  What the heck do book
writers use?  I hope not a word processor.  I am only working with small
books and it is a pain to have to deal with layout.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Editing PDF and/or postscript

2006-06-13 Thread JimD
Justin R Findlay wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 05:54:00PM -0400, JimD wrote:
 Are there any tools/editors to edit a pdf or ps file?  I am digitizing
 some books.  I have the books as pdf and can convert that to postscript,
 text, html.

 I would like to be able to insert a few graphics into the PDF files.  I
 could convert to plain text, edit in OOo and export to PDF.  However, I
 lose all formatting doing that.

 I was hoping there were tools/editors for PDF/PS.  What the heck do book
 writers use?  I hope not a word processor.  I am only working with small
 books and it is a pain to have to deal with layout.
 
 You could open it up in vi and guess about what's going on, or you could
 learn the postscript language. (:  Otherwise, there's inkscape and
 scribus that will write to PDF.  I don't know what's so hard about
 reading in PDF files if you can write out to them.  Good luck.
 
 
 Justin

Thanks Justin.  I am going to give scribus/inkscape a shot.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Editing PDF and/or postscript

2006-06-13 Thread JimD
Vladimir G. Ivanovic wrote:
 Google for edit PDF +Linux.

Did that.  There wasn't much out there really.

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[gentoo-user] Join plain text paragraphs

2006-06-12 Thread JimD
I have an MS Word HTML file.  I used Lynx to dump it to text and now I
want to get it to pdf.  I opened it in OOo and saved as an OpenDocument.
 However, all the paragraphs are hard wrapped at 80 characters so the
text does not take up the whole page.

Is there an easy way to go through the 100+ pages and just join the
lines of each paragraph so that they will be flowed correctly in OOo?

I have the dumped text file and the OOo file and both have the
paragraphs hard wrapped at column 80.  I would think there would have to
be some simple tool out there to go through the plain text file and just
join all the lines of a paragraph, no?

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Flash and Xorg 7.1?

2006-06-09 Thread JimD
Jim wrote:
 I have the same issue.  I upgraded gcc to 4.1.x and that has been a mess
 since I rebooted.  I need to rebuild world :-)
 
 I get the same flash issue.  Simple flash sites work, flash sites with
 video mostly puke now.  I also get display issues with gnome-terminal
 where all/most of the text becomes invisible until I hit enter and then
 it is redrawn.
 
 I use the binary NVidia driver and thought it was releated to that.
 However I am currently downgrading x11-libs/libX11, x11-base/xorg-server
 and x11-base/xorg-x11 and all the installed drivers I have under
 x11-drivers/*.
 
 I hope this will fix me up because right now I cannot get into Gnome.
 
 Jim

Doing the above got me back in to Gnome.  I am now just having an issue
with gdm, but that is not a big deal.  I am going to do a quick bash
script to grep all the environment.bz2 files under /var/db/pkg and see
which ones were compiled with gcc 3.4.x so I can recompile with gcc
4.1.x.  I don't feel like rebuilding world, it takes too long and I have
rebuilt some packages already.  I should have heeded the warnings about
upgrading gcc :-)

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[gentoo-user] FTP Server

2006-06-06 Thread JimD
Does anyone have any suggestions/preferences to a secure FTP server for
Gentoo?

My 55+ year old father-in-law wants to start learning building websites.
 I am having him install Nvu and want to setup ftp to my web server and
give him his own directory to play with.

I have never had a need for ftp since I have always used ssh.  However,
I want to make it as easy as possible for him to learn web page design,
so that is why I thought ftp would be the easiest and most supported by
tools.  He uses winXP and I think Nvu can publish to ftp.  If he really
gets into building websites, he wants to purchase something like
dreamweaver.

From my perspective, I don't want an ftp server that will allow someone
to get in to my gentoo box by brute forcing a username and password.  I
guess I can install something like denyhosts if the ftp server uses tcp
wrappers.

Thanks for any guidance,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular X and xscreensaver

2006-06-06 Thread JimD
W.Kenworthy wrote:
 I have just brought my X up to date (modular Xorg 7.1) and am finding
 that xscreensaver is crashing the xserver.  Of course there is nothing
 in the logs, or onscreen as X either stops or reboots.  Eventually it
 takes out the OS and a system reboot is required.
 
 Is anyone else seeing this (in which case I'll bugzilla it, though I
 have no info on whats happening) or is it just me?
 
 This also has brought up a *BIG* disadvantage of modularising something
 like xorg - when things go wrong, how can you wind it back to a previous
 version - impossible?
 
 BillK

unmerge x11-misc/xscreensaver.

If you use Gnome emerge:
gnome-extra/gnome-screensaver


If you use KDE emerge:
kde-base/kscreensaver

and you can also add:
kde-base/kdeartwork-kscreensaver

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Re: [gentoo-user] FTP Server

2006-06-06 Thread JimD
Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
 What about sftp? You only need to have ssh running.

I have ssh.  However, How many of the typical winXP tools for website
editing support sftp?  I was just looking at Nvu and the text editing in
it stinks real bad.  I don't know what windows software he will always
use.  He may try FrontPage or Dreamweaver or some other tool.  A lot of
those tools allow publishing to a site with FTP, though I am not sure if
they support sftp.

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Re: [gentoo-user] FTP Server

2006-06-06 Thread JimD
Gerhard Hoogterp wrote:
 On Tuesday 06 June 2006 17:38, JimD wrote:
 
 From my perspective, I don't want an ftp server that will allow someone

 to get in to my gentoo box by brute forcing a username and password.  I
 guess I can install something like denyhosts if the ftp server uses tcp
 wrappers.
 
 
 Maybe winscp is a better idea? It behaves like most windows ftpclients but 
 uses scp to connect to your box with all the ssh goodness for security.. 
 
 http://winscp.net/eng/index.php
 
 Gerhard

Ohhh, it has a gui too!  I think we may have a winner ;-)

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] FTP Server

2006-06-06 Thread JimD
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Did you check out sftp?  Or programs like secure shell which do ftp also.

I use ssh/sftp exclusively.  I just have never really used any of the
windows based WYIWYG-type website editors to know if they support ssh/sftp.

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] FTP Server

2006-06-06 Thread JimD
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
 Tuesday 06 June 2006 18:01 skrev JimD:
 I don't know what windows software he will always
 use.  He may try FrontPage or Dreamweaver or some other tool.
 
 I would *really* recommend that he does not use Frontpage. It produces crap 
 code... I know nothing about Dreamweaver though.

Frontpage was just an example.  As a programmer, I will do all in my
power to prevent that junk from getting on his computer.  It is my duty
as a Linux Geek.  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Outlook MSG file conversion

2006-06-04 Thread JimD
Mick wrote:

 I also found this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/tnef/
 
 HTH

Thanks for the links ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] cvsd and Gentoo

2006-06-04 Thread JimD
Leandro Melo de Sales wrote:
 Hi,
 
   I setup cvsd as shown in http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_CVS_Server.
 When I test if I connect locally, in the shell everything works fine,
 as it is shown in /var/log/message:
 
 Jun  3 16:31:24 embedded cvsd[13679]: connection from 127.0.0.1 43619
 Jun  3 16:31:24 embedded cvsd[13679]: cvs command exited with exit-status 0
 
  But when I try this from a remote machine (in the same network
 range, no firewalls) I can't connect:
 
 Jun  3 16:42:01 embedded cvsd[13679]: connection from 192.168.0.228 1290
 Jun  3 16:42:01 embedded cvsd[13679]: cvs command exited with exit-status 1
 
 Here are the netstat -na output:
 
 Active Internet connections (servers and established)
 Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address   Foreign Address State
 tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:3306  0.0.0.0:*   LISTEN
 tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:80  0.0.0.0:*   LISTEN
 tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:443 0.0.0.0:*   LISTEN
 tcp0  0 :::2401 :::*LISTEN
 tcp0  0 :::22   :::*LISTEN
 tcp0  0 :::192.168.0.1:22  :::192.168.0.:1496
 ESTABLISHED
 tcp0  0 :::192.168.0.1:22  :::192.168.0.:1446
 ESTABLISHED
 tcp0128 :::192.168.0.1:22  :::192.168.0.:1153
 ESTABLISHED
 
 What I need to do? To certify that the remote machine can reach the
 cvs server and connect to 2401 port I telned to 2401 port:
 
 # telnet 192.168.0.1 2401
 press enter
 
 cvs [pserver aborted]: bad auth protocol start:
 
 connection reset by peer.
 
 So, what is the problem?
 
 Leandro.

Did you try to put an entry in /etc/hosts.allow?  Put a line like:

ALL : 192.168.0.

Replace the IP with your network setup and restart cvs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] FreeBSD equivalent features?

2006-06-03 Thread JimD
Jason Lixfeld wrote:

 Hi,
 
 2) pkg_version -- summarize installed versions of packages.  Outputs
 what newer ports are available to what versions are actually installed. 
 I've looked through the emerge and ebuild docs, but I can't find
 anything that operates the same way.

emerge eix gentoolkit

Then man eix and man gentoolkit.

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[gentoo-user] Outlook MSG file conversion

2006-06-02 Thread JimD
Does anyone know of an app to convert outlook *.msg files to a text
email?  I have some individual email (*.msg) files from Outlook, not a
.pst archive.

I dragged-n-dropped the emails from crappy Outlook and now have them on
my Gentoo box.  I _thought_ they would have been stored as regular old
email with one email in each file.  Nope.  Upon opening any of the MSG
email files in VIM, all I see is binary crap.

The only docs I have found on the Outlook MSG file format so far is:

MSG files are outlook messages saved as files.  They are saved as COM
stuctured storage OLE2 compound documents or DocFile, which is the
same technique used by Word, Excel and many many more.

Can't MS even do email right?

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Outlook MSG file conversion

2006-06-02 Thread JimD
Mick wrote:
 On 02/06/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Can't MS even do email right?
 
 Err, no.
 
 Have you tried importing them in a mail client (kmail, thunderbird,
 Opera)?  I haven't tried it myself, but that's how I would go about it
 in the first instance.  Should that fail, you could try Openoffice,
 Koffice and or Abiword in case they can convert it into a .doc file
 and so read it, before you save it as a .txt file.  If that works you
 could probably write a macro for doing it.

I tried opening the .msg email file in Thunderbird.  Thunderbird
actually was able to pull out the From: To: Subject: and date.  However
the body was blank and Thunderbird showed an attachment of winmail.dat.

What I have read on the net is that the Outlook MSG format is some type
of Office like format.  I will try your suggestion of OOo.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Outlook MSG file conversion

2006-06-02 Thread JimD
Richard Fish wrote:
 On 6/2/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can't MS even do email right?
 
 This was a rhetorical question, right?
 
 Anyway, the best way I have found to migrate messages from outlook is
 to setup an IMAP server, and use outlook to transfer the messages to
 the imap server.  Most linux mail clients will speak to an imap
 server, so you can use thunderbird, kmail, etc to transfer the
 messages to local folders or text files.
 
 -Richard

I am running courier-imap.  I guess I can use outlook under VMware to
transfer the emails to my IMAP server.  I was hoping to be able to do it
off-line, but oh well.

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login

2006-06-01 Thread JimD
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

 if you have used google, you wouldn't had to ask here. Saving you some time 
 and a lot of people some bandwidth.

If you are so concerned about others bandwidth, then why waste it to
troll?  If you had read the thread, you would have seen that plenty of
people responded already.  So why ad to the noise?

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Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login

2006-06-01 Thread JimD
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

 education?

I have a formal education.  I do not need any pointers from you, thanks.

 it is just plain laziness to ask a question in a mailing list or forum, that 
 could have been aswered by typing three words into google search.

Talking about education, usually one would capitalize the first word of
a sentence.

I get to make a new procmail recipe now:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null

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Re: [gentoo-user] eth1 wireless problem

2006-06-01 Thread JimD
Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
 My wireless has been working fine, I don't think I even ran any updates 
 yesturday, but this morning I get this
 
 /etc/init.d/net.eth1 start
  * Starting eth1
  *   Configuring wireless network for eth1
  * eth1 connected to ESSID ptfd at 00:06:25:D9:DC:2F
  * in managed mode on channel 11 (WEP disabled)
  *   Bringing up eth1
  * 192.168.14.102
  * 192.168.14.102 already taken on eth1  
 
 I don't get that last line, why is it reporting that the ip is already taken 
 on eth1 when I am starting eth1? 
 
 ifconfig shows no eth1 setup.
 I can run eth1 with dhcpcd and it gets a differernt ip, in teh same subnet, 
 everything else seems fine. My eth1 wireless is set at teh static ip 
 with /etc/conf.d/wireless, mostly due to using my system on several nets and 
 vpn's and vmware, I just like the static ip's better, but can't figure 
 this...
 
 here is teh applicable from my /etc/conf.d/wireless 
 
 config_ptfd=( 192.168.14.102 brd 192.168.14.255 netmask 255.255.255.0)
 routes_ptfd=(default via 192.168.14.1)
 dns_servers_ptfd=( 68.87.72.130 68.87.77.130 )
 
 Any ideas are appreciated, I must be missing something... I have been 
 suspending to ram lately, but this is with a fresh boot..
 
 Mike

Log in to your router and check what IP's are in use to what mac
addresses.  Maybe someone got on your wireless network?

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[gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login

2006-05-31 Thread JimD
I get this message when trying to do an emerge -vpuDN world:

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world dependencies  . ... done!

[blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2)

Do I need to remove sys-apps/shadow?  I thought that was part of system?

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[gentoo-user] OT: US Drivers License Search

2006-05-31 Thread JimD
Does anyone know anything about this?

http://www.license.shorturl.com/


I was wondering if it is a scam.  My sister, an AOL user, sends me the
AOL-Chain-Mail-Crap. I should .procmailrc her, but I would feel bad : )

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: US Drivers License Search

2006-05-31 Thread JimD
JimD wrote:
 Does anyone know anything about this?
 
 http://www.license.shorturl.com/
 
 
 I was wondering if it is a scam.  My sister, an AOL user, sends me the
 AOL-Chain-Mail-Crap. I should .procmailrc her, but I would feel bad : )
 
 Jim

Never mind.  I just entered a fake first and last name, picked a state
and city and did the search.

The search always shows the same thing.  A drivers license with a
picture of a monkey.  I hate AOL chain-mail :-)

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[gentoo-user] OT: Is Google getting evil?

2006-05-31 Thread JimD
Sorry for all the OT posts today.  I am having problems with my ISP and
I am not doing much work. :-)

Anyway, I just found out something about Google Groups.  I normally post
through my ISP, however as I just stated, issues caused me to look up
this gentoo group on Google groups.  It can be found here:
http://groups.google.com/group/linux.gentoo.user

Go to the link above on Google, click on any topic.  At the top of the
topic you will see the From: line.  At the end of that line there is a
link named View Profile.  Click on that.

Wow.  Google shows a list of every group it finds your email in and
displays it in a drop down.  I guess People should think twice about
using their real contact information, name/email, in a group.

Am I the only one that is bothered by this?  Or should I remove some of
the tinfoil layers from around my head? :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems configuring VMWare

2006-05-29 Thread JimD
Martin Larsson wrote:
 On 5/28/06, *JimD* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Anyway, all I had to do is remove /etc/vmware/not_configured and all is
 golden.
 
 
 Thanks, that helped. Now I can run vmware as root.
 But attempting to run it as myself, I get:
   (vmware:7809): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open pixbuf loader module
 file
   '/opt/vmware/workstation/lib/libconf/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders'
 
 I've added myselft to the vmware-group, but gdk-pixbuf.loaders is:
 # ls -la /opt/vmware/workstation/lib/libconf/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders
 -rw--- 1 root root 3324 2006-05-29 01:51
 /opt/vmware/workstation/lib/libconf/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders
 
 So something here seems to be all wrong.
 
 I probably should take the hint and just buy a new machine instead of
 playing with VMWare. :*)
 
 M.

Don't worry about that warning, I get it every time I use VMware and
have not had any issues.  I run VMware Mon-Fri for a good 8 hours.  I
use it for work.

Maybe I will look into the gdk-pixbuf.loaders issue if I find some time.
 Though as I stated, I have not had one issue because of it, I even
played a few smaller games under VMware like Heroes of Might and Magic III.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Email-based games

2006-05-29 Thread JimD
JimD wrote:
 Does anyone have any suggestions for some fun email based games?  I have
 never played any before, I don't know if any exist.
 
 I guess I have some turn-based strategy like game in mind.  I wanted to
 see If I could get a friend to play across the Net.
 
 The requirements are it needs to run on Gentoo(me) and Windows(him) (or
 be able to run fine in vmware for me).  Oh, and it needs to be fun : )
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jim

Thanks everyone.  Some of these look pretty cool.  :-)

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[gentoo-user] !GTK-Qt

2006-05-28 Thread JimD
I know of GTK-Qt which lets GTK+ look like QT under KDE.  However, is
there the opposite for Gnome?  I would like to make the few QT/KDE apps
I run look better withing Gnome.

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Google Picasa for Linux!

2006-05-27 Thread JimD
Alexander Skwar wrote:

 Well, fact is, that we can now get access to the page. And
 I wonder, why JimD posted, after it's been discovered that
 this fact is outdated (the post from Raymond Lewis and
 the replies have been sent before JimD sent his reply).
 
 Alexander Skwar

Dude, get over it!  Who cares.  I didn't read every post before I posted
a link.  After I posted the link and then I later read that it was
working for non-US people.  I live in the US so I didn't have a problem.
 Just though I would help non-US folks that wanted to try it out.

Stop being so anal about the time frame of when I sent my post.  Jeeez!

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Re: [gentoo-user] GCC 4.1.1 Problems

2006-05-27 Thread JimD
Jason Weisberger wrote:
 List,
 
 I figure upgrading to GCC 4.1.1 from 3.4.5 wouldn't be such a pain,
 right?  WRONG.  So far I've had just about every problem under the
 sun, mostly in the form of filesize errors which I wouldn't think
 would be related to GCC, but then again:
 
 app-admin/perl-cleaner
 x11-proto/xextproto
 x11-proto/xcmiscproto-1.1.2

I had this same issue with app-admin/perl-cleaner.  I think there is a
bad tarball on some of the mirrors.  I grabbed this one:

http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/distfiles/perl-cleaner-1.03.tar.gz

and saved it to /usr/portage/distfiles and then ran this (one line):

ebuild /usr/portage/app-admin/perl-cleaner/perl-cleaner-1.03.ebuild digest

Now it merged in fine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems configuring VMWare

2006-05-27 Thread JimD
Martin Larsson wrote:
 On 5/24/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well yes, he needs a -rsomething,
 
 I've installed vmware-workstation-5.5.1.19175-r3.
 But it seemed I had some old versions of vmware-files
 in various locations. So I cleaned that up, and now I
 can configure.
 
 But when I attempt to actually *run* it, I get:
 
vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured
for this system. To (re-)configure it, invoke the following command:
/opt/vmware/workstation/bin/vmware-config.pl.
 
 Running vmware-config.pl again just brings me back
 to that same error.
 
 M.

I get this too.  It appears to be a bug in the startup script.  If I run
/etc/init.d/vmware start and everything comes up.  If I run the startup
script again I get a some failed messages because vmware was already
started.

The startup script places an empty file in /etc/vmware named
not_configured if the startup script fails for any reason.  Being
already started doesn't seem like a good reason to me.

Anyway, all I had to do is remove /etc/vmware/not_configured and all is
golden.

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[gentoo-user] net-nntp/klibido

2006-05-27 Thread JimD
Has anyone gotten this to compile with gcc 4.x?

I just upgraded to gcc 4.1 and I also just installed kdelibs 3.5 (I am a
gnome guy and want to give kde a look).

The requirement page on the klibido site state gcc 3.x.  Would I be able
to emerge gcc 3.x and compile klibido with that?  I compiled kdelibs 3.5
with gcc 4.1.

Since I have no kde stuff on my system, I thought I would get the latest
and greatest to try out kde.  However, I would hate to spend hours
compiling kde 3.5 with gcc 4.1 to have nothing but a headache.

If the above is not doable, does anyone know of a good binary news
reader for Linux?  I have tried the older, stable version of pan, though
that is dog slow and uses HUGE amounts of memory.  Today pan sucked up
over 800MB of my 2GB and caused Firefox and Thunderbird to terminate (I
was also using VMware at the time with 768MB WinXP guest).  I now just
tried the latest unstable pan with is much faster and uses much less
memory.  However, it is too unstable to be usable for me.

I would love to find a clean binary news reader like GrabIt
(http://www.shemes.com/).  GrabIt is simple, fast and stable.  Though it
is closed source and only runs on WinXP which doesn't help me now  :-(

Thanks for any help,

p.s. sorry if this post showed up already.  I posted it close to 2 hours
ago and don't see it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] net-nntp/klibido

2006-05-27 Thread JimD
Richard Fish wrote:

 I would suggest to either use 3.4.x and rebuild all C++ programs with
 that (using revdep-rebuild --library=libstdc++.so.6), or wait for the
 above bug to get fixed.  Rebuilding all C++ programs could include
 openoffice.org, mozilla, and other long-compiling packages...

Part of me wanting to try kde again was because of the nice speed
increase with startup times and gcc 4.1.  However, I don't know if this
is try from experience.  Is kde 3.5 noticeably faster when compiled with
gcc 4.1?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Google Picasa for Linux!

2006-05-27 Thread JimD
Iain Buchanan wrote:

 I'm not saying it _does_ these things, but where does it say it
 _doesn't_?

Hey, Google has a corporate slogan of do no evil.  We can trust big
corps right? :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] net-nntp/klibido

2006-05-27 Thread JimD
Richard Fish wrote:

 I would suggest to either use 3.4.x and rebuild all C++ programs with
 that (using revdep-rebuild --library=libstdc++.so.6), or wait for the
 above bug to get fixed.  Rebuilding all C++ programs could include
 openoffice.org, mozilla, and other long-compiling packages...

By the way, do you know if Gentoo considers an ebuild with an -rX on the
end to be newer?  For example which would emerge choose:

sys-devel/gcc-3.4.6
or
sys-devel/gcc-3.4.6-r1

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[gentoo-user] net-nntp/klibido

2006-05-27 Thread JimD
Has anyone gotten this to compile with gcc 4.x?

I just upgraded to gcc 4.1 and I also just installed kdelibs 3.5 (I am a
gnome guy and want to give kde a look).

The requirement page on the klibido site state gcc 3.x.  Would I be able
to emerge gcc 3.x and compile klibido with that?  I compiled kdelibs 3.5
with gcc 4.1.

Since I have no kde stuff on my system, I thought I would get the latest
and greatest to try out kde.  However, I would hate to spend hours
compiling kde 3.5 with gcc 4.1 to have nothing but a headache.

If the above is not doable, does anyone know of a good binary news
reader for Linux?  I have tried the older, stable version of pan, though
that is dog slow and uses HUGE amounts of memory.  Today pan sucked up
over 800MB of my 2GB and caused Firefox and Thunderbird to terminate (I
was also using VMware at the time with 768MB WinXP guest).  I now just
tried the latest unstable pan with is much faster and uses much less
memory.  However, it is too unstable to be usable for me.

I would love to find a clean binary news reader like GrabIt
(http://www.shemes.com/).  GrabIt is simple, fast and stable.  Though it
is closed source and only runs on WinXP which doesn't help me now :-(

Thanks for any help,

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Re: [gentoo-user] net-nntp/klibido

2006-05-27 Thread JimD
Ryan Tandy wrote:
 JimD wrote:
 If the above is not doable, does anyone know of a good binary news
 reader for Linux?
 
 What's wrong with Thunderbird?

For binary news groups?  I could give it a shot.  However, Thunderbird
sucks up tons of memory for text-only news groups with a few hundred
posts.  I hat to see how much memory it uses for a news group with
100,000+ posts!

 GrabIt is simple, fast and stable.  Though it
 is closed source and only runs on WinXP which doesn't help me now :-(
 
 Wine ;)

It does start up fine in Wine.  I will give it a go and see if it will
download and all that jazz.

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Re: [gentoo-user] net-nntp/klibido

2006-05-27 Thread JimD
Ryan Tandy wrote:
 JimD wrote:
 By the way, do you know if Gentoo considers an ebuild with an -rX on the
 end to be newer?  For example which would emerge choose:

 sys-devel/gcc-3.4.6
 or
 sys-devel/gcc-3.4.6-r1
 
 s/Gentoo/portage ;)

Ahh, yes, I had a brain freeze.

 Yay, random portage trivia!

Mmmm, portage trivia :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] subscribe

2006-05-27 Thread JimD
David Relson wrote:
 subscribe

List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [gentoo-user] net-nntp/klibido

2006-05-27 Thread JimD
Richard Fish wrote:

 I'll let you know in a week or so once my emerge -e world finishes... :-)

Same here.  Rebuilding world should take a while.


 Actually the last time I did this, it took about 16 hours to rebuild
 everythingof course that was with openoffice-bin which I don't use
 anymore.  Building OOo from source should add about 7 hours.

Do you find any benefit from building OOo yourself?  I built OOo once
about 2 years ago, and it took ages then.  Since then I have always just
use OOo-bin.

 -Richard

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[gentoo-user] Google Picasa for Linux!

2006-05-26 Thread JimD
It is official.

http://picasa.google.com/linux/

It installs and runs well with Gentoo.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Google Picasa for Linux!

2006-05-26 Thread JimD
Ptitjack wrote:

 Hi,
 
 404 Error  Not found !
 
 - Ptitjack -

Your not in the USA.  It is blocked by Google for non-US people right
now.  However you can work around that by using NYU proxy:

http://picasa.google.com.nyud.net:8080/linux/
http://picasa.google.com.nyud.net:8080/linux/faq.h tml

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ethics of vmware use

2006-05-21 Thread JimD
Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

 On 5/20/06, *Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I like to be one of the good guys.  I'm not always sure what that
 means
 in particular cases, so I'm going to ask what I should do here. 
 Opinions
 welcome.  Flames somewhat less so.

 I got a 30-day trial license for vmware, thinking to replace my aging
 Win4Lin.  It seems to work (thanks to folks on this list).  But I
 notice
 that now that I've created my VMs, I may not need workstation any
 more.  I could do very well with the player, which is free.
 
 
 I have not used it though I plan on getting the OS X version once my
 Mac Mini arrives...
 
 There is this which fits your budget
 
 http://www.parallels.com http://www.parallels.com/
 
 Yes, the price is right, but when I tried it I could not make it work.
 
 ++ kevin

I am using VMware 4.x workstation.  The workstation performance is
better than the free versions.  I use Linux for my main desktop, however
I do MS Win C# programming for a living so I couldn't just ditch WinXP.
 I find using VMWare very acceptable performance-wise, about 90% of my
AMD64 3200+ speed, with 2GB I don't even notice I am running WinXP in a
virtual machine.

However, the 4.x version is getting a little outdated, and doesn't have
the cleanest install on a 2.6 kernel.  From time to time, I get sound
locking issues, or the VMware kernel modules won't load even though I
didn't change my kernel.  So I went to look to upgrade/purchase the 5.x
version and it is a little costly for home use.  It is dirt cheap for
corporate use though.

Thanks for the link to Parallels.  The price is great.  I will go give
it a test and and report back.


I would think that Parallels works on Gentoo.  They have a screenshot of
 it running on Gentoo with a Fedora VM.

http://www.parallels.com/files/upload/ecomfedora_gentoo.gif

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ethics of vmware use

2006-05-21 Thread JimD
JimD wrote:
 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
 
 Yes, the price is right, but when I tried it I could not make it work.

 ++ kevin
 
 I am using VMware 4.x workstation.  The workstation performance is
 better than the free versions.  I use Linux for my main desktop, however
 I do MS Win C# programming for a living so I couldn't just ditch WinXP.
  I find using VMWare very acceptable performance-wise, about 90% of my
 AMD64 3200+ speed, with 2GB I don't even notice I am running WinXP in a
 virtual machine.
 
 However, the 4.x version is getting a little outdated, and doesn't have
 the cleanest install on a 2.6 kernel.  From time to time, I get sound
 locking issues, or the VMware kernel modules won't load even though I
 didn't change my kernel.  So I went to look to upgrade/purchase the 5.x
 version and it is a little costly for home use.  It is dirt cheap for
 corporate use though.
 
 Thanks for the link to Parallels.  The price is great.  I will go give
 it a test and and report back.
 
 
 I would think that Parallels works on Gentoo.  They have a screenshot of
  it running on Gentoo with a Fedora VM.
 
 http://www.parallels.com/files/upload/ecomfedora_gentoo.gif
 
 Jim

OK, I have WinXP installed in a Parallels VM.  Parallels was *very* easy
to install.  They have an official Gentoo ebuild on their download page!

I grabbed the ebuild and extracted it to /usr/local/portage.  It put the
ebuild in app-emulation/parallels-workstation.

Now just do:

sudo emerge app-emulation/parallels-workstation

It downloads a tar.gz file and installs everything.  Next run:

sudo parallels-config

This sets up the main vm options and compiles kernel mods.  It took a
few seconds with no errors.

Now as a regular user just run the app:

parallels

A nice wizard walks you through setting up your VM.

I need to do a lot more testing and usage to give a better opinion.
However, I will give what I think so far.  The price is great!  The
overall speed is right up there with VMware IMO.  I use VMware
workstation 4.x 8 hours a day Mon-Fri to do dev work.  VM performance is
important to me.

Make sure you install the parallels tools inside of the VM to get better
performance.

I have noticed two negatives so far.

1.  The video performance is not as fast as VMware 4.x.  In VMware 4.x I
really don't notice I am using an OS in a VM.  With Parallels I have
noticed that the mouse can jerk a little if you move the mouse a lot,
especially on a web page with a Javascript rollover graphic.

2.  The full screen support in VMware 4.x doesn't work for me.  So I
maximize the window and then use the VMware option to set the guest to
fill the scree.  I like it this way because I get the largest possible
guest resolution while still being able to quickly get to my Linux apps
without having to switch from full screen.  Full screen support in
parallels worked perfectly.  However, I haven't found an option to make
the guest fit to the host window size.  While not a major issue, it is
an annoyance to me because I want my guest OS to be as large as possible
without being in full screen mode.  For now I set the parallels VM to
1152x864.

If parallels can speed up the video a little, it could be a real killer
to VMware workstation.  VMware workstation has great all around
performance, however the price puts it out of reach of home
users/developers.

I will keep doing some more testing.  I still have to install Visual
Studio 2005, SQL Server 200 Dev and IIS/.Net.  I have all of these
running in VMware, so I want to see the performance of the same setup in
parallels.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ethics of vmware use

2006-05-21 Thread JimD
Cliff Wells wrote:
 On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 11:52 -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
 
 I have not used it though I plan on getting the OS X version once my
 Mac Mini arrives...
 
 I have doubts about the performance of a VM on that hardware.  I've got
 a mini and it's not fast (at least running Linux).  Usable for
 general-purpose stuff but it feels pretty sluggish if I ask it to do
 anything heavy.  I don't know any benchmarks, but if I had to give you a
 feel describing it, I'd put it on par with a 1GHz PIII with a slow
 drive and not *quite* enough memory.   In short, it's great for doing
 testing on or just day-to-day stuff, but I think running a VM may be out
 of its league.
 
 If you can, replace the disk with a 5400RPM drive which will help a lot.
 
 Regards,
 Cliff

Do you have the old mini with a G4 and the dog slow 4200 RPM drive?
If so that would explain a lot.  The new Intel based ones have a much
faster processor and a much better hard drive.  The difference is
night-and-day.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ethics of vmware use

2006-05-21 Thread JimD
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:

 Yes, the mini was upgraded a few months ago.  $599 gives you a 1.5ghz
 Core Solo, 512mb, etc and $799 gives you a 1.66ghz Core Solo, 512mb,
  
That would be the Duo ;)

 etc.  You can go up to 2GB.  They have a mediocre intel inegrated
 graphics of some sort (something 950) but for the price it is fine.
 
 I ordered a refurb $1.66ghz Core Duo Mini for $699 and had a $200 Apple
 Store coupon from their Aperture price reduction rebate, so it ended up
 being $499.  Can't complain about that. :-)  (I plan on leaving OS X on
 it but you could probably run Linux on it as well.  I have a Cocoa OS X
 app I developed that I need to make run on Intel OS X)

Where can you find the refurbs?  That sounds like a very good deal.  Did
it come with a 5200 RPM SATA drive?  I have one of those in my laptop
and they are pretty speedy.  Not as fast as my 7200 RPM SATA II, but
much, much better than the old 4200 IDE laptop drives.

 http://www.apple.com/macmini/
 
 Google should help you find folks running Linux on them and how they did
 it.
 
 best
 Chad

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[gentoo-user] emerge error with sys-apps/apmd

2006-05-19 Thread JimD
I am getting this error when trying to update apmd.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] $ sudo emerge -vb sys-apps/apmd
Calculating dependencies... done!
 Emerging (1 of 1) sys-apps/apmd-3.2.2_p5 to /
 checking ebuild checksums ;-)
 checking auxfile checksums ;-)
 checking miscfile checksums ;-)
 checking apmd_3.2.2.orig.tar.gz ;-)
 checking apmd_3.2.2-5.diff.gz ;-)
 Unpacking source...
 Unpacking apmd_3.2.2.orig.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/apmd-3.2.2_p5/work
 Unpacking apmd_3.2.2-5.diff.gz to /var/tmp/portage/apmd-3.2.2_p5/work
 * Applying apmd_3.2.2-5.diff ...


...

i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++:
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4/../../../crti.o: No such file or
directory

...

The weird thing is that I have gcc 3.4.5 installed, not 3.4.4.  Is there
some system file that is telling libtool to use 3.4.4?

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge error with sys-apps/apmd

2006-05-19 Thread JimD
JimD wrote:

snip

 The weird thing is that I have gcc 3.4.5 installed, not 3.4.4.  Is there
 some system file that is telling libtool to use 3.4.4?
 
 Jim

FYI, I fixed this by re-emerging libtool.  How in the world did libtool
get out of whack?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bad mem, over heat and games

2006-05-09 Thread JimD

Jeremy Olexa wrote:


Configure ACPI to run the proc at the lowest speed unless it is under a
load. I leave my laptop on for days at a time..the longest uptime is 8
days so far. My proc speed is always set at 600mhz unless it is under a
load and then it jumps to 1.7ghz, it works well..


OK. That is how I have had it setup.  The Pentium M will go down to 800 
MHz and stay there and jump to 1.73 GHz from time to time.   I do change 
the governor to performance when I run VMWare and then drop it back down 
 when I close it.  I would think that at 800 MHz, the chip should stay 
pretty cool.


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Re: [gentoo-user] can gnome use prelink?

2006-05-09 Thread JimD

wu chuanwen wrote:

2006/5/7, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



hdparm -Tt /dev/hda



Sorry!But i just don't know what you mean by this?
I expect your reply!
Thanks again!


I meant I want you to run the command above and send the output.  The 
last parameter /dev/hda refers to the drive where you have Gentoo 
insalled.  The drive/device path that you put in /etc/fstab.  For 
example, if your 40 GB drive is the primary master, it would be 
/dev/hda.  It it were the primary slave it would be /dev/hdb, etc.  If 
the drive is an SATA drive it would be /dev/sda..


If you still do not understand, send me the contents of the file 
/etc/fstab and I will show you what command to run.


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Re: [gentoo-user] can gnome use prelink?

2006-05-09 Thread JimD

wu chuanwen wrote:

I count the time when i startx my gnome,it takes me 23 or 24 seconds.
The  specs of my machine are as follow:
Celeron(R)2.0G,Ram=512mb,disk=40Gb

Do you think it's slow or not?


Yes you should get much faster startup times of Gnome 2.14 than that. 
My laptop is a Pentium M 1.73 GHz, 1 GB memory and a 5400 RPM SATA 
laptop drive.  From startx to complete Gnome is only about 5 seconds or 
so.  On my AMD64 3200+ with 2 GB and pretty fast SATA II I get in Gnome 
in less than 5 seconds.


Something is slowing down you system.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 7.0 or 6.8. What of then is better ?

2006-05-08 Thread JimD

Ptitjack wrote:


Hi,

I backup and restore my Gentoo system with  Partimage and the
SysRescueCd live CD.
It is very easy to use and it takes about 30 minutes to restore  my
system (/ , usr/, boot and home).
http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page

Regards 



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Thanks.  I will check that out : )

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Re: [gentoo-user] A couple projects on my laptop

2006-05-08 Thread JimD

Timothy A. Holmes wrote:


Hi folks

I have a couple of issues on my laptop that I would like to get wrapped
up in the easiest method possible

1. Flashcards / memory sticks
- Right now -- in order to mount my camera cards / thumb drives
-- I have to become root -- its easy, but an annoyance - I have looked
at automount and that is FAR more problems than im willing to go through
(the shortest set of instructions ive seen so far for automount is like
3 pages), so if I could get it set up so that I can just do the mount
commands as my user instead of having to su it would be nice


Google for gentoo dbus or gentoo hal.  You want three programs. 
Hal, D-Bus and ivman.  Hal and gentoo are real easy, you basically 
emerge and have them start at boot.  ivman is the app that listens for 
events and will carry out actions in a nice and easy xml file.  There is 
a system wide config and a per-user config.  You can tell it to launch 
totem/xine/mplayer if a DVD is inserted or mount your camera, usb key, etc.


2. Energy saver thingy 
	- after about 10 minutes or so of inactivity, the screen shuts

off under power saver -- I cant seem to find how to prevent this from
happening, and could use some guidance


Is it a BIOS thing?  What kind of laptop?  I have a new Toshiba laptop 
and Toshiba did away with a real BIOS for some custom one with very few 
settings.



3. I need a good VPN Client with easy gui
- right now our school has a VPN set up on the cisco pix that
works beautifully with a Microsoft VPN connection on a windows box, I
need to be able to access this with my gentoo laptop as well


I can't help here.  I have to use a Nortel VPN client.  Their Linux 
version just doesn't work.  I paid $100 for it!  My only option has been 
to use VMWare and vpn into work that way.  I needed VMWare anyway for MS 
Dev stuff.  I think I read somewhere that it is pretty easy to connect 
to ciso VPN with Linux.  A quick eix search shows these ebuilds:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] $ eix -Ss -c cisco
[N] dev-perl/Net-Telnet-Cisco (): Automate telnet sessions w/ 
routersswitches


[N] net-analyzer/ipcad (): IP Cisco Accounting Daemon

[N] net-analyzer/ndsad (): Cisco netflow probe from libpcap, ULOG, 
tee/divert sources.


[N] net-misc/cisco-aironet-client-utils (): Cisco Aironet Client Utilities

[N] net-misc/cisco-vpnclient-3des (): Cisco VPN Client (3DES)

[N] net-misc/vpnc (): Free client for Cisco VPN routing software


4. I need to be able to use a USB to Serial dongle to talk to my
switches -- the adapters that I have are Triplite ones and I do have the
driver disk for windows -- along with this, I need a good communications
program (equivalent to hyperterm ) to use with them to talk to my
switches and to my UPS


I never used one.  However I just compiled my kernel and there seems to 
be a whole bunch.  Run make menuconfig and take a look at:


Device Drivers - USB support - USB Serial Converter support


Thanks folks - any pointers and/or suggestions are gladly welcomed

TIM

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Re: [gentoo-user] ltmodem - is there one installed?

2006-05-08 Thread JimD

Mick wrote:


The logs don't show anything.  lshw and lspci don't list a modem.  Yet
the laptop comes with a built in winmodem, I just have no proof that

   

Right there is your answer.  The *win* in winmodem should give you a hint ;)

Some will work, though don't count on it, especially from Dell.  If you 
want a modem, spend a couple bucks and get a PCMCIA modem.  You should 
have no problems getting one to work.  However if you like to torture 
yourself, just Google for linxu and your winmodem name.


Do you know what winmodem it is?  lspci -v should show something.  How 
about in the product specs?  Once you have the specific winmodem, post 
it here.  Maybe someone has experience with the same winmodem as you.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Bad mem, over heat and games

2006-05-08 Thread JimD

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Laptops are NOT meant to run 24/7.  They don't have the cooling to survive for 
more than a few hours.  Get some fans or something to save it before you fry 
something.


Oh, great!  Now you tell me ; )
For the last week I have been running it from about 9:00 AM until 2:00 
AM and then I hibernate it.



What games?


Well, I tried to compile wesnoth and the system could lock up.  However 
now that I am using the single 1GB stick, it has been very stable again. 
 Though I guess I am still using it for too long.  I knew I should have 
lugged my desktop along.


Some guys I eat lunch with have gotten a amazing amount of enjoyment out of a 
game called KBounce.


Hmm, I am a Gnome guy, but I will still check it out.

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] ATI and Linux

2006-05-08 Thread JimD

Richard Fish wrote:


Well, I had done this previously without good results.  But I just
tried it again in response to your question, fully expecting to post
back yep, it craps out at   But it actually seems to be working
now...I've been through a half-dozen suspend-resume cycles without a
hiccup.

So, thanks for the prompting to try again! :-

-Richard


Cool beans ; )

My suspend is almost perfect.  The only issue I have is that 
mixer_applet2, the little volume control, crashes when I come back up 
and I get prompted to restart it.  I am not sure if I can kill it before 
suspend and bring it back up.  I would need to start it as the logged in 
user not as root.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Network is not working after emerge world

2006-05-08 Thread JimD

Goran Dubajic wrote:

Hi guys,

I am running Gentoo on Toshiba M45-S369 laptop, with unstable x1. When
I did emerge world and carelessly etc-update (most of the cfg
files were for x11)  and try to boot my laptop today,  I got message
that eth1 is not found (eth0 is wireless)
Today I tried to recompile the kernel but it did not help...
Any suggestions?

Best wishes,
Goran.


What module do you use for eth1?  Is it loaded?  Does your wireless 
work?  Do you use dhcp for eth1?  Post a little more info about how you 
had it setup when it worked and then we can work backwards from there


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Re: [gentoo-user] New USE flags???

2006-05-08 Thread JimD

Justin Findlay wrote:


Honestly, I think USE flags, as powerful as they are, are the
cruftiest part of Gentoo and could be so much more powerful and ought
to be so much less clumsy.


Justin


How would you recommend changing USE flags or making them better?  You 
should post suggestions to the devs.  I think they need some fixing as 
well.  However, I haven't really thought much about it and so have no 
real useful suggestions, yet.


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Re: [gentoo-user] can gnome use prelink?

2006-05-07 Thread JimD

Alexander Skwar wrote:


Does anyone know, when 2.14 will finally be unmasked?

Alexander Skwar


Don't worry about the mask status.  2.14 is the official stable release 
from Gnome.


Just follow this guide until it is unmasked;
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Update_to_GNOME_unstable

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Re: [gentoo-user] can gnome use prelink?

2006-05-07 Thread JimD

wu chuanwen wrote:


Celeron(R)2.0G,Ram=512mb,disk=40Gb


That is not bad at all.


yeah!I am using Gnome2.14.I konw it's nice.I am just trying to find
some ways to make it more fast! Is it possible.


What is slow about it?  Just the startup or the use of applications or 
both?  One thing I noticed is memory usage and swap can kill 
performance.  You can run free to see how much memory/swap you have in 
use.  What is the output from this command:


top -b -n 1


yes!I am trying to use xfce4 and i have already installed it.
It' s faster and also beautiful.But maybe not so easy to use.
Besides, do you konw how to creat a desktop.link just as in gnome or
kde?I know it's possible but i can find the way in handbook of xfce4.


The development version of xfce supports desktop icons.  You would need 
to unmask the latest version of xfce in Gentoo.


The specs of your computer seem fine to run the latest gnome.  What is 
the RPM speed of your hard drive.  I am suspecting the problem is that 
with 512MB of memory, you are using up swap.  Your hard drive is 
probably only 5200 RPM which can make a big difference on swap speed.


Send me the output of the top command above, the output of free and  the 
output of:


hdparm -Tt /dev/hda

Replace hda with your correct drive.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6 and OpenGL

2006-05-07 Thread JimD

marcin wrote:


Can anyone tell me how to increase priority for OpenGL?

Thanks, Marcin


I am using gentoo-sources with the Anticipatory I/O sched and did not 
notice a slow down when I ran glxgears and nbench.  I get about 980 fps 
on my laptop with or without nbench running.  What kernel sources are 
you using?  Have you tried the anticipatory i/o scheduler?  Also under 
Processor Type and Features set the Preemption Model to Low-latency 
desktop and make sure you check Preempt the Big Kernel Lock.  Scroll 
down to Timer Frequency and set that to 1000 HZ.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6 and OpenGL

2006-05-07 Thread JimD

marcin wrote:

On 5/7/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

marcin wrote:

 Can anyone tell me how to increase priority for OpenGL?

 Thanks, Marcin

I am using gentoo-sources with the Anticipatory I/O sched and did not
notice a slow down when I ran glxgears and nbench.  I get about 980 fps
on my laptop with or without nbench running.  What kernel sources are
you using?  Have you tried the anticipatory i/o scheduler?  Also under
Processor Type and Features set the Preemption Model to Low-latency
desktop and make sure you check Preempt the Big Kernel Lock.  Scroll
down to Timer Frequency and set that to 1000 HZ.



At the moment I'm using ck-sources with CFQ I/O scheduler and voluntary 
kernel
preemption. It's possible that this is the problem. I will try our 
settings.


Marcin


Ah.  CFQ stinks compared to Anticipatory.  Google the Kernel mailing 
list for CFQ vs Anticipatory.  There is a thread where Andrew Morton 
show how Anticipatory blows everything else away.  You basically want 
Anticipatory for everything but true server system that runs multiple 
server apps and you want them to get equal time.


I just installed the latest ck-sources, I usually use gentoo-sources.  I 
compiled ck-sources with the Anticipatory scheduler, low-latency 
desktop, and 1000HZ and get about the same results as with the gentoo 
sources.  Running nice -10 nbench didn't slow down glxgears much at all. 
 Maybe 5 fps.  I did notice that I get about an extra 125 fps with 
ck-sources as compared to gentoo-sources.  So it looks like I will stick 
to ck-sources for a while and see how they do.


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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 7.0 or 6.8. What of then is better ?

2006-05-07 Thread JimD

Robert Persson wrote:


Stick with 6.8.2 for the time being. 7 works a little
better with wine, but overall it is the kind of pain
in the arse that shoots most of the way back up your
digestive tract.

Robert


Or stick with xorg-7 and don't do all the little updates?  If i have a 
working package, I won't do an update unless the *package* changes.  For 
example I wouldn't update a working foo-1.0-r1 to foo-1.0-r2.  I would 
(probably) do an update to foo-1.0.1 or something.


The approach I have learned to take with Gentoo is to keep my important 
apps stable.  I don't update courier or postfix often.  I will go and 
see what the update does and if it is something I need.  If it is a 
minor update that corrects handling of Chinese characters during a full 
moon, I won't grab it.  I keep gnome at the latest official stable 
version.  For apps that are beta quality, I keep those that the latest 
version.  For example I unmask and use the latest monodevelop.


Gentoo can be a very nice stable system or a 
pulling-out-your-hair-why-did-I-do-that-upgrade system.  Pick which one 
you want  :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6 and OpenGL

2006-05-07 Thread JimD

marcin wrote:


I have tried some other tests

If I set export __GL_SYNC_TO_VBLANK=1 then everything is OK!
glxgears has 75  (as my vertrefresh) even if cpu burns

Without VBLANK
I have noticed that glxgears takes a lot of sys time.
$ watch -n 0,1 cat /proc/stat | grep cpu0 | cut -d' ' -f4
and then when I run nbench sys time drops and fps as well.

I hope this helps

Marcin



Good deal.

I can't get to my NVidia system at home right now.  I am on my laptop 
which has an Intel i915 in it and I did not get this issue.


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[gentoo-user] ATI and Linux

2006-05-07 Thread JimD
I am looking to get a new video card.  I have used an NVidia with Linux 
for a *long* time now.  I can't recall when I last bought an ATI card, 
at least 6 years or more.


Anyway I want to get some feedback on the current ATI driver state.  Are 
they stable and pretty easy to use/install?  Any problems with games? 
How about commercial OpenGL games ported to Linux like Call of Duty and 
Doom 3?


I am asking because Newegg has some nice deals on ATI X1600 series 
starting at $99 USD:


http://images10.newegg.com/UploadFilesForNewegg/NEemail/promo050706/index.htm 



I probably will just go with NVidia.  NVidia's Linux support has always 
been rock-solid for me and installation is as easy as executing the 
NVIDIA script, or using the ebuild with Gentoo.


However, a nice new ATI at those prices is tempting if ATI has gotten 
their Linux act together.  Do the proprietary ATI Linux drivers have 
*all* of the features that the proprietary ATI Windows drivers have? 
One thing I like about NVidia's driver is that it is a unified driver 
model and the drivers are basically feature for feature identical on the 
different oses.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6 and OpenGL

2006-05-07 Thread JimD

W.Kenworthy wrote:

I have just set up a Sony Vaio with an i915 that runs ~850-900fps -
acceptable, but how does this compare with your i915?

Sorry if you already mentioned this, but I have come on this thread
late.

Billk


My laptop is a Pentium M 1.73GHz with 1GB memory.

With gentoo-sources I got about 950-980fps.
With the ck-sources I get 1,100fps.

Install the ck-sources and give them a shot.  You might be able to get 
an extra 100 fps out of them.  I configured my ck-sources with the 
Anticipatory scheduler, low-latency desktop and 1000HZ.


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Re: [gentoo-user] ATI and Linux

2006-05-07 Thread JimD

Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

Hi,

this is with their windows drivers, and their linux drivers are even worse:

http://www.3dnature.com/ati.html


Uuuggh.  I thought ATI would have gotten better by now.  I guess I can 
check in on them in another 5 years or so.


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Re: [gentoo-user] ATI and Linux

2006-05-07 Thread JimD

Jerônimo Backes wrote:


NO! (expand the fontsize to 100 pt or something to get the meaning)

ATI support for linux is the crapiest thing on earth!


I guess it is safe to assume you don't like ATI : )

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Re: [gentoo-user] ATI and Linux

2006-05-07 Thread JimD

Richard Fish wrote:


The biggest complaint I have (and that I see frequently on the nvnews
forums) with NVidia's drivers is the time between releases.  They used
to do a release about every two months, but lately that has slid to 4
or even 5 months sometimes!!  Which means I will probably have no
usable suspend-to-disk until September or October.

-Richard


Have you tried editing /etc/hibernate/hibernate.conf and make the nvidia 
driver module unload when you hibernate and reload it when it comes up?


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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 7.0 or 6.8. What of then is better ?

2006-05-07 Thread JimD

Robert Persson wrote:

On Sunday 07 May 2006 11:31 JimD was like:

Or stick with xorg-7 and don't do all the little updates?  If i have a
working package, I won't do an update unless the *package* changes.  For
example I wouldn't update a working foo-1.0-r1 to foo-1.0-r2.  I would
(probably) do an update to foo-1.0.1 or something.

The approach I have learned to take with Gentoo is to keep my important
apps stable.  I don't update courier or postfix often.  I will go and
see what the update does and if it is something I need.  If it is a
minor update that corrects handling of Chinese characters during a full
moon, I won't grab it.  I keep gnome at the latest official stable
version.  For apps that are beta quality, I keep those that the latest
version.  For example I unmask and use the latest monodevelop.

Gentoo can be a very nice stable system or a
pulling-out-your-hair-why-did-I-do-that-upgrade system.  Pick which one
you want  :)



One problem with gentoo is that there is no easy way to distinguish a 
security-related upgrade from something less important. It's not a problem 
you get with SuSE or Ubuntu. This is one of the reasons why I have just gone 
along with whatever emerge -avu world threw my way, though, as it happens, 
the xorg update that caused me all this trouble was just such a security 
update. The problem seems to have ironed itself out now, after two upgrades 
and one rollback, but it was not nice to have a non-functioning system for a 
few hours. And I got a pretty useless response to my bug report.


Generally I am finding administering gentoo way too time-consuming, while the 
theoretical benefits in terms of performance are not materialising. For 
instance I am sure that with a lot more tweaking I can get great low-latency 
performance, but I am beginning to think that I would be better off simply 
changing distro to Demudi or Fedora/Planet CCRMA and getting the low-latency 
stuff pre-packaged and ready to roll. Perhaps it might be useful to build 
glibc and a few other libraries from source, but do I really need to build 
gimp from source when I don't use it that much? I think it's time I stopped 
spending all my time tweaking and troubleshooting my system and actually got 
some work done.


That said, the plus side to gentoo is excellent documentation (particularly 
the howtos), a very down-to-earth and helpful user community, and the ability 
to install all kinds of bleeding edge or obscure packages if I really need 
them (which often I do).


Hmm. Decisions decisions.

Robert


I agree 100%  I did the Linux from scratch thing for a while.  Then I 
realized I spend *more* time maintaining linux from scratch then 
actually using it.


I then did Fedora for a while.  I will always like Fedora because RH was 
my first distro and I am use to the RH-way of things.  However I got 
tired the bloat and rpm repo conflicts.  I couldn't get MP3, mplayer and 
other media stuff from fedora so I would have to use different repos and 
run in to conflicts.


In between the above two I did Gentoo for a while.

I then did Ubuntu and loved apt.  So simple.  I was a happy camper until 
I ran into the one big issue with binary distros I call the 
out-dated-package syndrome.  The mono packages including mod_mono for 
apache were old and required apache1 while I wanted apache2.  After 
running into issues with wanting newer versions of packages under 
ubuntu, I came back to Gentoo about 3 months ago.  So far I don't spend 
too much time maintaining.  I just don't do an update too often.


I did just try the newest version of Ubuntu and have to say it is *very* 
nice.  Everything on my laptop worked OTB.


However, I do like being able to customize my system and Gentoo gives me 
a very nice way to do that.  The only current issue I with Gentoo that I 
want to address is a recovery option.  I will probably post a thread on 
that topic soon.  I have about 1GB in /usr/portage/packages so I guess I 
can back that up.  However, I want a faster method to restore than I 
currently can do with Gentoo.  If I lost my system now, it would mean 
rebuilding my base system and the would leave me without a functioning 
system for a while.  With Ubunutu, I would be back up with a base system 
in 30 mins.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Bad mem, over heat and games

2006-05-06 Thread JimD

Mick wrote:


Laptops generally get warm/hot to the touch.  What sort of
temperatures does it show?


That is one of the problems with the blasted laptop.  Speedstep and 
sensors are not working.  I don't know if it is an Intel thing or a 
Toshiba thing.  I should have gotten an AMD laptop.  My AMD64 desktop 
runs great and everything works, especially the Cool-n-Quite.  I have 
been trying to see if there is a patch for speedstep.  The laptop is 3 
months old and has a Pentium M - Sonoma:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] $ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 13
model name  : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHz
stepping: 8
cpu MHz : 1729.164
cache size  : 2048 KB
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 2
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca 
cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss tm pbe nx est tm2

bogomips: 3466.07

I looked at speedstep-centrino.c in the kernel source and added the 
Sonoma.  However it still does not work and I just get:


FATAL: Error inserting speedstep_centrino 
(/lib/modules/2.6.16-gentoo-r6/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.ko): 
No such device




memetest should run overnight to get a reliable result.  I remember
reading either in this list or in the Gentoo forums why memtest is not
the best test for memory integrity.  There's a script somewhere which
will also put your memory controller under some pressure.  I'll post
back if I can find it.


I tried that.  Last night memtest got through the first 4 tests.  When 
test 5 came the screen got all garbaled, though the test kept running. 
I let the laptop cool overnight and this morning ran just test #5 and it 
completed.  I then booted to Gnome and the screen got garbaled.



If as you say your video card is sharing the system memory and the
memory is suspect, then that would explain why you are getting all
these video display problems.  Does reverting back to the old memory
chip improve matters?


Could different memory modules from different manufacturers not work 
well together, though work well alone?  I just took out the 512MB DDR2 
that came with the laptop and put just the 1GB DD2 in that  I bought and 
this is the longest it has stayed running since yesterday.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Card reader weirdness

2006-05-06 Thread JimD

Thierry de Coulon wrote:

Hello,

I've got an usb multi-card reader. The device does work, however since I run 
Gentoo it behaves a little different than before. Previously the reader would 
be indentified on boot (usually reserving /dev/sda to /dev/sdd). I set up 
those drives in /etc/fstab and created devices on the desktop to mount them 
as user.


Since using Gentoo the reader apparently is not seen on boot (if no card is 
plugged in). When I plug a card in and try to mount it I get an error message 
(no such device). However, if I open a shell, fdisk the device, quit fdisk 
and close the shell, I can mount the card...


So my guess is that I am missing a small something in my setup but I can't 
find what.


Note that this is annoying, not much more :)

Thierry



Plug the card in and try to mount it and get the error then run:

lsmod | sort  /tmp/before

Then do the fdisk thing that gets it to work and run:

lsmod | sort  /tmp/after

Now you can use vimdiff (or another diff)

vimdiff /tmp/before /tmp/after

This will show you if any module gets loaded that makes it work.  If you 
find a module in after but not in before, add it to 
/etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6


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Re: [gentoo-user] Bad mem, over heat and games - update

2006-05-06 Thread JimD

JimD wrote:
Ok, this is a three part question.  I am on vacation and I am using my 
wife's laptop that used to have winxp and now has Gentoo.   Starting 
today I started to get garbled video output followed by a lock-up.  I 
have been using the laptop as my dev platform and keeping it running 
24x7.  I am not sure if this is messing it up or not.  It seems to stay 
pretty warm.  I bought an extra 1GB of mem for the laptop and put that 
in today after the first lockup.  I ran memtest for about 10 minutes and 
didn't see any issues.


I took out the OEM 512MB DDR2 and left in just the 1GB DDR2 and things 
seem stable now.  I was able to run abuse.sdl without any lockups.


I have never had two different memory modules give me problems before.

I would have liked to have 1.5GB, but oh well.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bad mem, over heat and games - update

2006-05-06 Thread JimD

Richard Fish wrote:


One possibility may have to do with the memory timings of the old vs
new memory.  If the BIOS gives any manual control over the CAS, RAS,
etc timings, you might try increasing them.  I had to do this with my
AMD64 desktop system, even though the memory modules were matched. They 
just would not run stable at the rated settings...


Toshiba replaced the real BIOS with their own crappy BIOS.  The 
options are very limited to enable/disable NIC, screen brightness, etc. 
 Nothing that would confuse your typical Winders user.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Bad mem, over heat and games

2006-05-06 Thread JimD

Richard Fish wrote:


Speedstep should definitely work out-of-the-box here.  My 3 mo old
Core Duo processor works great with the speedstep-centrino module. And 
my previous 6mo old laptop on Sonoma also worked great.  Maybe you

are missing some ACPI options? (ACPI processor is the big one I can
think of that you might need.)

Speaking of ACPI, you should also enable and load the 'fan' module. Some 
laptops will _not_ run the CPU fan unless this is built and

loaded!!!


Did you use genkernel?  I have always built my own kernel and compile 
the minimum needed.  I may have left something out.  I will give 
genkernel a try and build almost everything.


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Re: [gentoo-user] can gnome use prelink?

2006-05-06 Thread JimD

wu chuanwen wrote:

 Hi!
 I know kde can use prelink to accelerate.
 Can gnome do it?
 If it can,how?I know in kde we should change the file 99kde-env in
 /etc/env.d,but here i can't see any file relate gnome.

 Thank you in advance!

From http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/prelink-howto.xml:

Most common applications make use of shared libraries. These shared 
libraries need to be loaded into memory at runtime and the various 
symbol references need to be resolved. For most small programs this 
dynamic linking is very quick. But for programs written in C++ and that 
have many library dependencies, the dynamic linking can take a fair 
amount of time.


Gnome is written in C and doesn't have this issue.  Gnome startup is 
pretty fast.  If you upgrade to the latest Gnome 2.14.x, startup is 
*very* fast.  My AMD64 3200+ logs in to Gnome in only about 2 seconds 
from startx.  I am really impressed with the speed improvements in Gnome 
2.14 vs 2.12.


So to answer your question, no, it is not needed in Gnome since gnome is 
not written in C++ like KDE is.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Bad mem, over heat and games

2006-05-06 Thread JimD

Richard Fish wrote:


Nope, never have.

If you like, I can email you the relevant global, power management,
and processor parts of my .config.


Please send the .config, that could come in handy.  I am probably just 
leaving out something.


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[gentoo-user] Bad mem, over heat and games

2006-05-05 Thread JimD
Ok, this is a three part question.  I am on vacation and I am using my 
wife's laptop that used to have winxp and now has Gentoo.   Starting 
today I started to get garbled video output followed by a lock-up.  I 
have been using the laptop as my dev platform and keeping it running 
24x7.  I am not sure if this is messing it up or not.  It seems to stay 
pretty warm.  I bought an extra 1GB of mem for the laptop and put that 
in today after the first lockup.  I ran memtest for about 10 minutes and 
didn't see any issues.


The laptop has an Intel Extreme graphics chip.  Every time before the 
lockup, the video gets all messed up with vertical and horizontal 
lines.  I just went in the bios and changed the CPU speed to LOW which 
is now 800Mhz Pentium M instead of 1.73GHz, changed the screen 
brightness to the lowest.  I also switched the X driver from i810 to 
vesa.  So far it seems a little more stable.  However, after a recent 
startx, when X first comes up I see a quick flash of my previous desktop 
on the screen.  It seems like the memory wasn't cleared and the junk 
left in it is displayed for a second while X is initializing.  This 
Extreme chip uses system memory.  Has anyone had issue like this?


I have always been a desktop person so I am not used to these tender 
laptops.  Do these issues sound like they are caused by over heating?  
Or could it be hardware?  This thing is only 2-3 months old.  I better 
not have to send it to Toshiba already.  I have a Satellite M45-S2692.


Now for the games part.  I can't compile/play some of the bigger games 
and now I am POed : )
Are there any recommendations for fun games in Gentoo that could run 
fine with the vesa drive?  I am trying to find some game to help pass 
the time on my vacation at my in-laws ; )


Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Web mail

2006-05-03 Thread JimD

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:


The output of ASP.Net is trash.  Most notably it doesn't gracefully degrade 
as the browser loses features, and generates unnecessary round-trips to 
the server.


That was true for *Microsoft's* ASP.Net 1.1.  The output HTML for the MS 
supplied controls was pretty ugly and non-standard.  ASP.Net 2.0 is much 
improved.  I also use Mono.  Mono's .Net 1.1 has better output than MS's 
 .Net 1.1.


I agree that event-driven programming generally a better fit for GUIs, 
however it's not really a good fit for HTTP.  I prefer a middle ground 
that removes the spew of markup (which is bad) but doesn't work against 
HTTP/HTML.  In general, the goal is for php/java/vb/c#/your language 
here to not generate much markup, but to generate the content inside the 
markup.


Middle ground is very good.  I do like event driven programming and 
doing web apps with it seems natural to me.  However, there are some 
things that do seem clunky and not to fit well with event oriented web apps.


Code separation is easily done without writing event-driven code.  You can 
define procedure libraries and/or Class (and object) hierarchies that 
don't deal with markup but use their results in the markup.


True.  However some models lend better to more separation.  There is no 
one *true* method for every purpose.  I have done the markup-with-code 
crap; The extremely complex abstractions Java crap for a simple web app; 
the make everything like a VB form MS C# web app crap; etc, etc.  They 
all have had pros and cons.


Writing an event-driven dynamic webpage is a little questionable to begin 
with since the underlying protocol is request-driven.  If your 
applications are request driven, you'll find they are much easier to 
debug.  Work *with* the tools you are given, not against them.  On top of 
that, you have very little control over the other side of the protocol, 
most of the time.  This is basically a requirement for layer another 
framework on a protocol and changing how it works.  E.g. TCP 
[stream-oriented with delivery guarantees] over IP [packet-oriented with 
no delivery guarantees] has fairly specific behavior for both sides of the 
TCP connection.


The protocol is not important and that is why it is OK to abstract it 
away.  Event oriented web apps are not the answer for everything.  They 
have pros and cons.


All I know is I don't want to ever have to do stuff like this again:

echo tabletrtd.$foo./td/tr/table\n;
Response.write tabletrtd  foo  /td/tr/table  vbCrLf

: )


The SquirrelMail source code is trash.


I haven't gone through all of it, or even much of it to really know. 
Though the compose.php page was a real mess.   All I wanted to do was 
line the form buttons up nicely : )


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Re: [gentoo-user] Web mail

2006-05-03 Thread JimD

Nick Rout wrote:

you could take a look at roundcube.net


Your the second person to mention roundcube.  Has everyone heard of 
Roundcube but me? : )


It looks nice and I will go check it out.


I am connecting to courier imap on the same box with some very large
(read: owned by a lazy b'stard) mailboxes. The performance hit seems to
be equally divided between courier and apache (which will be the php
stuff no doubt). I may try dovecot which is held out by some as a better
performer.


I am running courier as well.  I haven't tried dovecot.  My largest 
folder has about 75 emails so I guess performance should be fine.
I am the opposite and delete everything.  It has come to bite me in the 
bum many times.  I need to start saving emails.


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Re: [gentoo-user] eix corruption?

2006-05-03 Thread JimD

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

This was caused by a change to the portage metadata format.  I believe the 
solution is to add 'PORTDIR_CACHE_METHOD=backport' to your /etc/eixrc.


That was the ticket : )

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Re: [gentoo-user] Web mail

2006-05-03 Thread JimD

Michael Sullivan wrote:


I know about event-driven programming (I wrote in VB for years before I
achieved the enlightenment of Linux), but I didn't know that it was
possible with PHP.  I use event-driven techniques in Gambas and qt.  I
always thought squirrelmail code was like that for security purposes...


You can do event-driven programming in just about any language.

Here is the good Wiki article on it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event-driven_programming

At the bottom there are links to some good frameworks/libraries.  PHP 5 
has a nice one called PRADO.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Web mail

2006-05-03 Thread JimD

Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:


I never heard of it as event driven programming, but I think what it
should refer to is the MVC pattern. The events for web applications
are of such a homogenuous nature that it has no worth to think of it as
event driven. One needs a good understanding of MVC and the
Doc/Controller model (and serialization of state data) for building
fine complex webapps whose overall logic should keep being
understandable.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event-driven_programming


On the opposite, if you've just a plain simple page to display, MVC is
definitely way too heavy.


Very true.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Web mail

2006-05-03 Thread JimD

Manuel McLure wrote:


I *just* (as in an hour or so ago) upgraded from courier-imap to dovecot.
On large folders (1000+ messages) dovecot is *much* faster. I'd say around
5x faster when bringing up the folder in Squirrelmail.


Any major changes in setup?  Any quirks with your fav. client?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Web mail

2006-05-03 Thread JimD

Martin Richardson wrote:


Hi Jim,
I have not actually installed a web mail client, so I can't talk
from experience, but I was considering doing so a while back. Have You 
had a look at horde or more specifically horde-imp? Looked good for me 
at the time.


Good luck.


No I have not.  However I will check it out.

Thanks for the tip,

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Re: [gentoo-user] eix corruption?

2006-05-02 Thread JimD

JimD wrote:
After running eix-sync, I now get corrupted output.  I no longer get 
the correct information in the ebuilds.  This has happened to me a few 
times.  Has this ever happened to anyone?  Is there some quick fix?

snip

I don't know if this is eix or emerge causing the problem.  I just did 
emerge --sync and then deleted /var/cache/eix and ran update-eix.  I 
still get the corrupted display for any package I search for.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Web mail

2006-05-02 Thread JimD

Michael Sullivan wrote:

What other style is there besides procedural?  


A much better way IMO is to separate the presentation from the code like 
you can do with ASP.Net with Mono/MS.  ASP.Net makes web app development 
*event* oriented.  You write event handlers to handle certain events 
like a page loading or a button being clicked, just as you would do with 
a GUI app, and you don't have to have all the markup spewed about in the 
code.


I will never go back to that old style of coding again.  When I looked 
at the SquirrelMail php I got the willies from how ugly it looked.  All 
I wanted to do was fix up the the ugly compose form.  With an 
event-driven web app, the code would have been separated and it would 
have been real easy to make changes to.


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Re: [gentoo-user] x86 Install CD - Success

2006-04-29 Thread JimD
Jeremy Olexa wrote:
 
 Yup, ipw2200 works fine with Gentoo. I have never tried installing with
 wireless though. Have you tried networkless install to get it working
 and then once gentoo is running update the system? Or perhaps install on
 a wired connection (I'm sure you would try this if you have the ability
 to =)
 
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2006.0/handbook-x86.xml?full=1
 (includes instructions for networkless install)
 
 Sry, I can't help on the installer issue, I haven't ever used the LiveCD
 to install, only console.
 
 -Jeremy

Thanks for the tips Jeremy.

I did get it to work.  I will file a bug with Gentoo about the install
CD missing the ipw2200 firmware.

For those interested here is what I needed to do.  My laptop is a new
Toshiba and has an Intel Pro ipw2200 based wireless along with a wired
eth0.  However the wired nic is a Marvell Tech. piece of junk and does
not work.  So the only two options I had were to get my ipw2200 working,
which I knew worked under Ubuntu or try my D-Link pc card.  The PC card
did not work.

What I did was boot with the latest Ubuntu install CD.  It is very nice
and is a full working Gnome system.  That CD did have the needed ipw2200
firmware binaries so I could get to the net.  However, it did not have a
compile tool chain so I could not build Gentoo chroot with it.  I used
the Ubuntu CD to cfdisk my partitions just like I would with Gentoo.  I
then downloaded the firmware (I grabbed every version to be safe) to the
new partitions and booted with the Gentoo install CD.  I then modprob -r
ipw220, turned off the hardware switch for my wireless card and
extracted all the firmware tarballs.  Flipped the wireless switch on,
modprobe ipw2200 and net-setup eth1.  I then had to manually us iwconfig
and then I was able to ping my gateway and get to the net.

I get to have Gentoo on my vacation!

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Re: [gentoo-user] x86 Install CD

2006-04-29 Thread JimD
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 
 You must not have the correct CD.  A stage (among other things) is a 
 requirement for networkless install.  There's been a stage on the full 
 (not minimal) install CDs of gentoo in the 2004.3, 2005.0, 2005.1 and 
 2006.0 releases.
 
 I don't know about that crazy CD with the new graphical installer, from 
 what I've seen on the list it's added confusion and fails to install in a 
 number of situations.  Maybe it doesn't have a stage3, but if it doesn't 
 it's not going to be able to install Gentoo w/o network support.

I did grab the graphical CD.  The graphical CD is nice for systems that
it fully supports like my desktop.  Using the graphical CD I was able to
have a gnome desktop with FF to browse while I waited for Gentoo to get
installed.  I guess because of space constraints, there is not room for
a stage.  That is normally not a problem if you have a fast connection.

The regular install CD seems to be the best bet though, especially for
non-network installs.

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[gentoo-user] How to make Gentoo more Ubuntu like

2006-04-29 Thread JimD
Does anyone have any good link on making Gentoo a little more
user-friendly like Ubunut?  I am looking for basic home user stuff for
my wife such as:

Automount/play a music CD, DVD
Automout a USB camera

Little basic things like that.  I personally just mount /mnt/cdrom, but
trying to get my wife to do that or anything manual gets me in trouble

: )

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[gentoo-user] Broken install?

2006-04-29 Thread JimD
OK, something weird is going on with a new install I just did.  I might
have hosed /dev.  I though udev takes card of /dev?

When I boot the new install, I get a kernel panic about the root= line
in my grub.conf.  So from the grub boot menu I press c and entered:

root (hd0,0)
Filesytem type is reiserfs...

kernel /boot/kern[TAB] (grub auto-completes) root=/dev[TAB]
Error 11: Unrecongnized device string.

Did I break something or forget something?

I booted into the gentoo install CD and mounted /dev/sda1 and /dev on my
disk is empty.  I started to mknod some devices, however that could take
all night.  Besides, I thought udev handles that?  Or do I need a base
set of device files for the kernel until udev kicks in?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Broken install? - Fixed

2006-04-29 Thread JimD
John Jolet wrote:
 that should not have been necessary.  my grey hairs are telling me you'll 
 encounter other problems down the road is udev enabled in the kernel?

I thought udev was just userland?  What option would I need in the kernel?

I followed the guide in the gentoo install handbook:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=7

I don't see anythign for 2.6 kernels that says udev.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Broken install?

2006-04-29 Thread JimD
Ryan Tandy wrote:
 JimD wrote:
 OK, something weird is going on with a new install I just did.  I might
 have hosed /dev.  I though udev takes card of /dev?

 When I boot the new install, I get a kernel panic about the root= line
 in my grub.conf.  So from the grub boot menu I press c and entered:

 root (hd0,0)
 Filesytem type is reiserfs...

 kernel /boot/kern[TAB] (grub auto-completes) root=/dev[TAB]
 Error 11: Unrecongnized device string.

 Did I break something or forget something?

 I booted into the gentoo install CD and mounted /dev/sda1 and /dev on my
 disk is empty.  I started to mknod some devices, however that could take
 all night.  Besides, I thought udev handles that?  Or do I need a base
 set of device files for the kernel until udev kicks in?

 Jim
   
 A truly empty /dev is a bad thing.  /dev needs to contain AT LEAST
 /dev/null and /dev/console in order for the kernel and baselayout to do
 their thing until udev kicks in.  Those two files are all my /dev has,
 and it works fine.
 
 HTH.

Hmm, my kernel would not boot when I created just /dev/null,
/dev/console and /dev/sda* in the empty /dev.  Once I did the steps I
listed previously, the system booted fine.

Did I miss some step with setting up udev?  I have sys-fs/udev
installed.  What kernel options are required?

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to make Gentoo more Ubuntu like

2006-04-29 Thread JimD
Ryan Tandy wrote:
 Make sure your GNOME packages (esp. gnome-volume-manager and related)
 are compiled with USE=hal, and make sure the hal and dbus services are
 started.  With those in place, it should Just Work(tm).

Ah, OK.  I will give those a try.  I hope I don't have too much
recompiling  : )

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Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare on Gentoo?

2006-04-29 Thread JimD
Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
 I just got an evaluation copy of VMWare Workstation 5.5, and I'm
 momentarily glad
 I didn't pay for this thing.  It seems to expect a RedHat style
 runlevel system.
 Has anybody successfully fooled with this thing to make it work on Gentoo?

 At the moment, its problems seem to be related to the daemon management
 features.  I could clone them, but it would be a lot of work.

 -- 
 Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
It looks like there is an ebuild.

However, I use VMWare workstation 4.x.  All it really needs is
/etc/rc.[0-6] directories and a symlink.
Try the ebuild or just do what I did:

cd /etc
mkdir rc.d
for i in $(seq 0 6); do echo mkdir rc${i}.d; done
ln -sf ../init.d

After that you should be able to run the installer.  The installer will
place a file named vmware in /etc/init.d/.  I just run that file before
I want to start VMWare.  All the startup script does is bring up the
virtual network that vmware uses.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DHCP and Deny specific Mac Addr IPs

2006-04-27 Thread JimD
Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 
 Yes, while those are perfectly valid solutions and I do utilise such a
 solution for me when I switch from Home to Work/Work to Home. (which
 does not cover yet DHCP)
 
 I'm hoping that there is a better way via a deny script for mac addrs.

Do you reboot when you go from work to home?  If so, have two grub
kernel entries.  Label one entry Home and the other Work.  Have the Home
kernel entry have an extra kernel command line option like so:

title=Gentoo Linux (Home)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.15-gentoo-r1 root=/dev/sda1 NO-DHCP
  extra boot option ^^^

Now just modify your /etc/init.d/ script for DHCP to look for NO-DHCP in
/proc/cmdline.  Now you can use grep:


grep NO-DHCP /proc/cmdline
FOUND=$?
if [ $FOUND -eq 0 ]; then
# NO-DHCP was found in boot cmdline, don't start DHCP
else
# NO-DHCP was NOT found in boot cmdline, start DHCP
fi


I have never had a need to run a DHCP server so there is probably a way
to do it with DHCP.  However, this is Linux and Linux was made for
tinkering, so use whatever you like best.  : )

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Re: [gentoo-user] stopping screen going blank

2006-04-27 Thread JimD
Geoff wrote:
 My screen keeps going blank after about 5 miniutes. I have DPMS turned off 
 and still my screen goes blank. I dont have a screen saver set. Does anybody 
 know how to stop this?
 
 Geoff.
 
 REMEMBER:- Those that get what they want, are the ones who show up to get 
 it

Check if your monitor has some built-in option to switch off after a
certain period.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Network usage monitor

2006-04-24 Thread JimD
JimD wrote:
 Are there any network monitoring apps in gentoo that will show processes
 and how much network usage they are using?
 
 I don't need anything fancy, just something like:
 
 PID   COMMAND  Bandwidth
 7866  mplayer  55kbs
 7899  rufus198kbs
 ...
 

Thanks for the tips Mick and James.  I will check the two out.

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Re: [gentoo-user] bash completion

2006-04-24 Thread JimD
fire-eyes wrote:
 Hi, i'm trying to use bash completion. That is, the extended bash completion.
 
 I merged bash-completion, and it tells me to do the following:
 
 einfo Add the following to your ~/.bashrc to enable completion support.
 einfo NOTE: to avoid things like Gentoo bug #98627, you should set 
 aliases
 einfo after sourcing /etc/profile.d/bash-completion.
 einfo
 einfo [[ -f /etc/profile.d/bash-completion ]]  \\ 
 einfo source /etc/profile.d/bash-completion
 
 I have done this as root, and also done an eselect bashcomp enable modules , 
 log out, back in, yet i am not able to complete modprobe -v ipw2[tab] which 
 should expand to ipw2200.
 
 Any ideas?

try the following:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] $ source /etc/bash_completion

[EMAIL PROTECTED] $ modprobe -v snd-inte[tab][tab]
snd-intel8x0   snd-intel8x0m   snd-interwave   snd-interwave-stb


I have to hit tab twice to get a list.  Replace snd-inte with any module
you have.  I didn't compile ipw2200.  You could also just try:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] $ modprobe[space][tab][tab]
Display all 385 possibilities? (y or n)

Do you get something like the above?

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