Re: [gentoo-user] [OT vmware] Installing vmware-toolbox
On 1/26/07, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not just emerge =app-emulationvmware-workstation-tools-VERSION Pfft, missed a '/'should be: =app-emulation/vmware-workstation-tools-VERSION -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT vmware] Installing vmware-toolbox
On 1/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I stumbled around in the script trying to make it work for gentoo but only succeded in reaping piles of perl errors due to my clumsyness in perl. Why not just emerge =app-emulationvmware-workstation-tools-VERSION and use the version that is already updated for Gentoo? You probably have to merge the specific version of tools that matches your vmware workstation version, so you might need to do something in /etc/portage/package.mask to keep portage from trying to upgrade to newer versions. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'
On 1/22/07, Jan Stępień [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact the radeon module conflicts with fglrx. I've unloaded fglrx, modprobed radeon (verified by lsmod) and relaunched gdm. But it's still refusing to use the new module: (EE) Failed to load module radeon (module does not exist, 0) Actually it does exist, it is loaded and besides listed in xorg.conf to be bound to my Radeon 9600XT. I'm can't get it. Any suggestions? Hmm, can you post your current xorg.conf and dmesg outputs? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [UDEV] No network on startup
On 1/22/07, Jakob Buchgraber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! I have updated my gentoo box by typing emerge --update world. This also updated udev and now I don't get any network on startup. If I want to get a network connection, I'll have to first delete /var/run/dhcpcd-eth0.pid and then run 'dhcpcd eth0'. Did you also update baselayout at the same time...or dhcpcd? I'd suspect these would be more likely to cause the problem you describe. Could you post your current /etc/conf.d/net? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [UDEV] No network on startup
On 1/22/07, Jakob Buchgraber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The content of /etc/conf.d/net is config_eth0=( dhcp ) dhcp_eth0=nodns nontp nonis nodns instructs baselayout to run the dhcp client such that it will not overwrite/update resolv.conf with settings from the DHCP server. It is equivalent to running dhcpcd with the -R option. So, try removing nodns from your settings. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [UDEV] No network on startup
On 1/22/07, Jakob Buchgraber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! So I downgraded to udev-103 again and now I get the error message (on startup) that /lib/udev/net.sh cannot be executed, because this file doesn't exist! I also tried reemerging udev, but it didn't help. What kernel version are you using. I suspect the problem with -104 may be due to using an older kernel version. Also downgrading udev can be tricky, because it may leave orphaned files around (which seems to be the problem you are having with -103). A guideline when upgrading udev: - be sure to run etc-update/dispatch-conf and accept any file modifications for /etc/udev/rules.d/. The only file you should modify in here is 10-local.rules, and udev shouldn't touch it. A guideline when downgrading udev: - run etc-update/dispatch-conf just as when upgrading - Also check each file in /etc/udev/rules.d with equery belongs to find any orphans and consider removing them. Again, your rules in 10-local.rules should be ok to keep. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'
On 1/22/07, Jan Stępień [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [drm:drm_unlock] *ERROR* Process 5256 using kernel context 0 Hmm, looks like kernel DRM is still having some issues. Try changing your xorg.conf back to Driver radeon, comment out the Option lines, and then do a full reboot. You might want to rc-update -d xdm before this so that you boot into a console, and can then try things with a plain old startx. HTH, -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'
On 1/20/07, Jan Stępień [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (/lib/modules/2.6.18-gentoo-r4/kernel/drivers/char/drm/drm.ko): Cannot allocate memory Try searching dmesg for drm. My guess is either the radeonfb module is conflicting, or the fglrx module. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering
On 1/18/07, Jan Stępień [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Is it possible to enable somehow direct rendering on Xgl, therefore allowing OpenGL apps to work as ought to. No...Xgl is always indirect. What graphics hardware are you using? If it is anything but ATI, you should be able to use the aiglx extensions in current (7.1) versions of x.org to get beryl working nicely with direct rendering and video overlays. 2. If the answer to the first questions is NO, then is there a method of choosing which Xserver to use? Can I choose whether I'd like to launch Xorg or Xgl? Or maybe I can even enable such choice in GDM login screen? I don't know how to do this with GDM, but the easiest way to accomplish this would be to have gdm manage two separate X sessions, one with XGL and the other without, to run on two virtual consoles. You could then switch between them with Ctrl-Alt-Fn sequence. Note that logging in to any display manager doesn't restart the X server, it just starts a session on whatever server the display manager itself is displayed on. So there isn't really any way to change what X server is running from the display manager. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DRI doesn't work with Radeon XPress 200M and opensource Drivers
On 1/18/07, Jerônimo Backes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (--) RADEON(0): Chipset: ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE) (ChipID = 0x5955) I don't have a .19 kernel to look at, but 0x5955 doesn't show up as a supported PCI ID in /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/drm/drm_pciids.h. In fact, no RS480 cards appear there. Until/unless the kernel DRM driver supports it, it won't matter what version of X.org or xf86-video-ati you install. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering
On 1/19/07, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/18/07, Jan Stępień [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Is it possible to enable somehow direct rendering on Xgl, therefore allowing OpenGL apps to work as ought to. No... Bah, apologies for silly answer already provided by others. This showed up as a separate thread in my gmail inbox :-( -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'
On 1/19/07, Jan Stępień [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When entering default runlevel GDM starts and launches both servers. First one, Standard, has got direct rendering turned on and OpenGL is rendered by fglrx driver. OpenGL apps work fine. On the other hand second server, Xgl, has not got direct rendering, and what is most suspicious, it uses Mesa drivers, which cause Beryl to run at an absolutely unacceptable performance. Why both servers are not rendered using fglrx? Have you got any ideas how to do it? Have you checked your /var/log/Xorg.*.log files? They should reflect why the Xgl server is not being accellerated. Also, one other option may be to try the opensource radeon driver. You can lookup your card's pci ID (use lspci lspci -n) in /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/drm/drm_pciids.h to see if it is supported or not. If so, you should be able to get aiglx working with opensource drivers. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'
On 1/19/07, Jan Stępień [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please verify my plan. I should recompile my kernel with device drivers - character devices - radeon built in (or as a module) and in xorg.conf set driver to radeon. Am I right? Yeah, I think that will work. Good luck! -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [way OT]network drivers for windows xp guest in vmware player?
On 1/14/07, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is, Windows complains the ethernet card has no drivers, so it refuses to connect. My guess is that your network card is configured for the vmware vmxnet adapter (rather than the pcnet32-compatible) in the .vmx file. This requires a vmware-supplied driver, usually installed by installing vmware-tools in the guest OS. I'm not sure how you do that with player. You could try temporarily installing/configuring vmware-server, which would let you do this. Or you could try something like [1]. -Richard [1] http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/Installing_VMware_Tools_with_VMware_Player.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Several Gentoo-Problems
On 1/11/07, chrissie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Include in your bugreport the contents of: * * /var/tmp/portage/gnutls-1.4.4-r1/temp/autoconf-31509.out balearen chrissie # cat /var/tmp/portage/gnutls-1.4.4-r1/temp/autoconf-31509.out * autoconf * configure.in:326: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_LIBOPENCDK If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. See the Autoconf documentation. Looks like http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161173 Try: WANT_AUTOMAKE=1.9 emerge --oneshot =net-libs/gnutls-1.4.4-r1 emerge --resume -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] unable to compile php-4.4.4R8
On 1/10/07, John covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: checking for Sablotron version... configure: error: Sablotron version 0.96 or greater required. Looks like this is really a problem with java on your system [1]. What does java-config -L report? Do you need php with java support? If not, you can get around this with: echo dev-lang/php -java /etc/portage/package.use -Richard [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150410 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Which Laptop is recommended for Gentoo GNU/Linux?
On 1/8/07, Nelson, David (ED, PARD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A quick bit of Googling yields: http://www.leenooks.com/Ricoh+Co+Ltd+R5C8xx+SD%252fMMC%252fMS%252fMSPro%252fxD%252fSC+Card+reader Looks like there is partial support for the SD/MMC aspect of these. I'll maybe give it a shot when I get home tonight :) Interesting. The last time I looked was around April '06, and the outlook didn't look good at that time. Nice to know things have improved here. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Core 2 duo: Building threaded program versions
On 1/8/07, Nico Schümann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thread-using way? It's not that nice to see the machine in idle at all^^ Maybe there's any hidden use flag I haven't heard of or so :) Just turn on disk encryption with dm-crypt. That will take care of the extra core is idle problem! ;- -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc slots
On 1/9/07, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: scrolltime is also wasted. Therefore, I conclude that although I respect the opinions of those who choose to bottom-post, and agree with the reasons it is nice, I also insist that there are also good reasons to top-post, and that I think the only real solution is for us all to live with each others preferences when we can't honor our own. The established community standard on this list is bottom posting. I can't recall anybody complaining about bottom-postingon any mail list*ever*. This is reason enough to adhere to the standard. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Several Gentoo-Problems
On 1/9/07, chrissie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
balearen chrissie # /lib/udev/write_net_rules all_interfaces
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules exists, persistent interface names
not saved.
Then edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules to assign the
interface names you want if they turn up wrong.
balearen chrissie # cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[...]
# PCI device 0x1106:0x3065 (via-rhine)
SUBSYSTEM==net, DRIVERS==?*, ATTRS{address}==00:0b:6a:c2:de:7f,
NAME=eth0
I think there is nothing wrong at the moment, via-rhine should be the eth0
interface. But it is the 3com at the moment (just wondering if it is
via-rhine after the next boot).
Both (er, all if you happen to have more than 2) interfaces will need
to be listed there for it to be effective. The problem is that if
some device comes up without a rule and grabs eth0, then udev won't
take eth0 away from it when a device with a matching rule comes up.
So if one is missing, remove/rename the file as Iain suggested and
re-run the script.
Any hints, also about the gnome-settings-daemon problem?
Well the other old standby advice is to remove/rename ~/.gnome, so you
end up with the default gnome settings again, and see if that helps.
-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Which Laptop is recommended for Gentoo GNU/Linux?
On 1/8/07, Nelson, David (ED, PARD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would add that I haven't got my SD card reader on my HP DV8000 series to work in Linux. Last time I investigated this for my Dell, built-in media readers unusable under Linux on all laptops, as they are all made by Ricoh, who refuses to release any programming specs to allow someone to make a driver. We need some competition on this component I think... -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] wine compilation errors
On 1/7/07, CapSel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... what else can I do? I don't see anything obviously wrong. It looks like the problem appears when autoconf/automake are run to generate the Makefiles. Searching bugzilla for similar things leads me to believe that the nls USE flag and non-english language settings could have an effect here. Another similar bug was traced to the version of sed being used, but that was quite old. However, all of the relevant bugs seem quite old. Still, you might try: LINGUAS=en en_US emerge wine If it is still broke, take a look at (and/or post) /var/tmp/portage/wine-0.9.22/work/wine-0.9.22/dlls/oleaut32/Makefile -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why does gcc depend on gtk+?
On 1/7/07, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wanted to free up some space on my server box. I was going through trying to find what packages could be safely removed. I don't have any graphical apps on my server box except gvim, which is built with -gtk. When I ran equery depends gtk+, it came up with gcc: bullet ~ # equery depends gtk+ equery depends is broken. It shows possible _dependancies_, without taking USE flags into account. Does gtk show up when you do a emerge --depclean --pretend? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting network going properly
On 1/7/07, Etaoin Shrdlu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, any reliable way to get a certain device to be eth0, etc. I saw the rename, but net.examples said that was not optional. You have to create some udev rules to tie device names to MAC addresses. Search the archives of this mailing list and you'll find a few threads about this problem (with the solutions, of course). If you have udev-103, by far the easiest way to do this is run /lib/udev/write_net_rules all_interfaces This will generate /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules that you can then edit to assign whatever names you want. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] wine compilation errors
On 1/7/07, CapSel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is going on? How can I compile wine and solve this problem? I'm running out of ideas. It just compiled fine on my system. Post your emerge --info and output of emerge -pv wine please. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] external USB harddrive
On 1/4/07, James Lockie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 00:28:06 -0500, James Lockie wrote: It mounts when I connect it but a user can't unmount it. My USB memory stick and USB card reader work fine. It is only the hard drive that I can't unmount as a user. You may need to add it to /etc/pmount.allow, as described in man pmount. I don't think pmount is installed/needed. Maybe not needed, but highly recommended, at least by me. I suggest merging it. # emerge -p pmount These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] sys-apps/pmount-0.9.13 USE=crypt hal Ok, so how are you mounting the drive under KDE? ivman? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] archiving
On 1/4/07, James Lockie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Compressing a folder doesn't work. When I right click on a folder in konqueror and select compress, a please wait dialog opens and the progress bar just moves back and forth. It is like it is in an infinite loop so end up cancelling. I've tried zip and tar.bz2 Any error messages showing up in ~/.xsession-errors? How much data is in the folders? Bzip2 at least will take a long time to compress...it processes at 1-3MB/s on most systems. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Vixie-Cron /bin/sh: root: command not found
On 1/5/07, norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am running vixie-cron, but am unable to figure out what this is all about, I have followed the http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cron-guide.xml But on the report email, I only get on the email, the following: /bin/sh: root: command not found Here is my /etc/crontab That's the system crontab, which should have a user field in it. How about your user-specific crontab from /var/spool/cron/crontabs/ ? That should *not* have a user field in it AFAIK. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] can't find eth0
On 1/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, I'm told that my usage (like I set it up) of eth0 is depreciated and I read net.example once over and multiple times in what I thought were the related areas and I can't get around this problem. This, still, is only a warning, hence its yellowiness, but then, as dhcp gets started, it fails to find the device. I've modprobed everything that might be needed within reason and ifconfig still can't find the card. Please post the outputs of lspci, lsmod, and the contents of /etc/conf.d/net.eth0. Without these we cannot help much. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] external USB harddrive
On 1/3/07, James Lockie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have one of these? :-) It mounts when I connect it but a user can't unmount it. My USB memory stick and USB card reader work fine. It is only the hard drive that I can't unmount as a user. I don't have or want an /etc/fstab entry for it, I should be able to configure KDE to handle it. So it mounts fine, but you can't unmount it? I've seen this happen, and fixed it by telling konqueror not to keep any instances pre-loaded. The problem seems to be that if you browse the drive using konqueror, it chdir()'s to the drive, and stays there, so any attempts to unmount it report busy. Konqueror-Settings-Configure Konqueror-Performance-Preloading -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Important security update for GnuPG!
On 1/4/07, qfpvajdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm surprised that after several emerge sync and emerge --update world operations since Wed Dec 6 2006, Gentoo has still not upgraded to GnuPG version 1.4.6. It's always helpful if you tell us your arch when you post things like this. Regardless, 1.4.6 was stabilized for x86 on Dec 7th, and for amd64 on Dec 8th: http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/app-crypt/gnupg/gnupg-1.4.6.ebuild?rev=1.9view=log -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] where is PID_MAX_DEFAULT ?
On 1/3/07, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
I was just trying to compile one of my programs that includes
linux/threads.h for the #define PID_MAX_DEFAULT, however, threads.h
isn't there anymore!
Hmm, on linux the maximum PID can be changed dynamically at run time.
Wouldn't it be better to change this to read /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max?
I've just upgraded linux-headers to 2.6.19 - is this the problem?
It seems so. From kernel-2.eclass:
# 2.6.18 introduces headers_install which means we dont need any
# of this crap anymore :D
if kernel_is ge 2 6 18 ; then
env_setup_xmakeopts
emake headers_install
INSTALL_HDR_PATH=${D}/${ddir}/.. ${xmakeopts} || die
In other words, for versions previous to 2.6.18, (almost) all headers
in the tarball were installed. For 2.6.18 and later, the makefile in
the tarball defines what gets installed.
If you truly need this header, make a private copy for your source
directory, or just define PID_MAX_DEFAULT yourself. But as I
mentioned above, it can be changed at run-time, so relying on this to
be constant could be dangerous.
-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] USB freezes the machine...
On 1/1/07, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # uname -a Linux 2.6.18-gentoo-r4 #1 PREEMPT Tue Dec 19 12:25:55 CET 2006 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.80GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux and as you can see i'm using gentoo-sources. It looks like this was upgraded recently too, no? Did it work at one point with this kernel? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USB freezes the machine...
On 1/1/07, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it useful, this is my lsmod: ohci_hcd 21636 0 uhci_hcd 24648 0 ehci_hcd 33160 0 I seem to recall that loading multiple USB controller drivers can cause problems on some systems. You might try unloading all of these with rmmod, then loading just one, and see if your drive will work. I believe for most systems the ehci_hcd driver would be the preferred one. Posting your dmesg output might also help. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USB freezes the machine...
On 12/31/06, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, some days ago i've upgraded to udev-103 (stable version). Since then i've experienced complete freezes of the machine (nothing responds, even external ping on the network) when USB devices are mounted. In case nothing is connected to the USB drive the machine can stay online without *any* freeze. The only thing i've done is to create local udev rules to facilitate the mounting of these devices: this is an example of its structure. As you know as of udev-089 some keyword has changed (as SYSFS-- ATTRS). Before this upgrade everything was working correctly. All udev does is create device nodes...it cannot effect the operation of the device or cause the system to hang. I suspect a hardware problem appeared at the same time as your update. What if you unplug the device while the system is hung? Does it clear up? Have you tried other USB disks? How about other USB devices, like printers or scanners? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gtk+ wants to install xorg-server
On 12/31/06, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By reading the virtualx.eclass file, I really wonder what this is necessary for. Why is an X server needed to build gtk ? You tell us: echo x11-base/xorg-server /etc/portage/package.provided emerge --oneshot x11-libs/gtk+ Then see what breaks. Don't forget to fix your system by removing the xorg-server from package.provided when you are done. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USB freezes the machine...
On 12/31/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 31 December 2006 13:12, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] USB freezes the machine...': On 12/31/06, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: some days ago i've upgraded to udev-103 (stable version). Since then i've experienced complete freezes of the machine (nothing responds, even external ping on the network) when USB devices are mounted. All udev does is create device nodes...it cannot effect the operation of the device or cause the system to hang. Newer versions of udev (particularly 103) can also load kernel modules, which definitely can effect the operation of the device and can cause the system to hang. Well udev can load modules, but if that causes the system to hang, it is almost certainly a bug in that module. Marco, if you suspect this at all, you can set RC_COLDPLUG=no in /etc/conf.d/rc to completely disable module loading by udev. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
On 12/31/06, William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, on most of my machines system is empty (went that way soon after each install - no idea why) so all I am left with is world. What do mean? The system package set is defined by /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages, and extended by the packages file of whatever profile you are running. Does emerge -evp system really report no packages to merge? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] anti-portage wreckage?
On 12/24/06, Mike Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please tell me there's some solution to this? I haven't seen one mentioned anywhere yet. Even with Gentoo's occasional problems, I like it too much to use any other distro but I'd definitely like to see better version management than what its got, which is none. The ideal solution to this would be released tree versions...so you could use the 2006.1 tree instead of the live development tree. Note that profiles wouldn't help much here, as then the profile would have to contain a list of all the possible packages that can be installed with the relevant versions. And it creates a lot of complications for package removals, additions, etc. But to have a snapshot of the tree to which only security or other minor fixes would be applied would be ideal for the problem you describe. The usual argument against this is that most devs prefer working on the live tree. Having to maintain a released tree and backport fixes to it would take time away from things they would rather be doing (like working on new cool stuff). The fear is that the released trees could have serious security holes in them that might never get fixed. But in fact this has been discussed many times among devs. For the most recent discussion, search the gentoo-dev mail list archives for Versioning the tree (and ignore the flames). I haven't reviewed the discussion, but as I recall a couple of devs may be working on making this a reality, possibly for the 2007.X releases. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Config Manager
On 12/23/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If he has that enabled in the kernel. That can be a good thing to have around though. Especially if you accidentally erase your old config. It is also very useful for being able to check the configuration of the kernel you are _actually_ running, vs what you _think_ you are running! :-) -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM problem
On 12/24/06, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you elaborate on this? What init script? Something in /etc/init.d? Something to be managed by rc-update? /sbin/rc starts up lvm volumes, provided you have lvm in RC_VOLUME_ORDER in /etc/conf.d/rc. The actual startup of lvm occurs in /lib/rcscripts/addons/lvm-start.sh. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udev-103 and blacklisting
On 12/22/06, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks this solution is working. Will this be the solution for the future or a blacklist file will be reintroduced? If you don't want udev to load any modules at all, you can set RC_COLDPLUG=no in /etc/conf.d/rc. [1] This should restore the old udev behavior, and you can then use modules.autoload.d/ to load whatever modules you need. For preventing specific modules from loading, the modules.d/ files are the way to go. -Richard [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/44743 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel woes..
On 12/19/06, Danyelle Gragsone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you help with this please? http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3793329.html#3793329 It seems you recently updated your kernel. After every kernel upgrade, you must re-merge nvidia-drivers to rebuild them against the current kernel. Note that /usr/src/linux must point to the configured kernel sources for your running kernel (or the one you are about to reboot into) for this to work. As for the current problem, first verify that eselect opengl list shows nvidia as the current selection. If not, change it with eselect opengl set N, where N is the number for nvidia. If this doesn't help, post your Xorg.0.log file. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Changing system from single to dual CPU ?
On 12/19/06, Joel Osburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There isn't an image in /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/ either. Strange. Try running make V=1 to get verbose output. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Changing system from single to dual CPU ?
On 12/19/06, Joel Osburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an Opteron 242 system, to which I recently added a second processor and some more memory. I figured that to take advantage of that processor, all I needed to do was recompile to kernel, reboot, and set -j3 in the make.conf file. However, there must be something else, since when I try to compile the kernel with smp, I get a whole bunch of errors like this when I run make: snip Everything you posted is just a warning, and should not cause the kernel build to fail. So no normal end to the compile. If the compile really is failing, it probably isn't due to the warnings you posted above. Try posting the last dozen or so messages you get from the build. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox, flash player, and youTube
On 12/16/06, Peter Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On restart, Firefox reports two different Flash plugins installed (via about:plugins), both 7.0, but one's r25 and the other's r69. Version 7 is too old for most youtube videos. They have moved on to version 8 (or 9?), for which there is no released player. There is a package.masked beta version, which you can merge if you unmask it: echo =net-www/netscape-flash-9.0.21.78 /etc/portage/package.unmask emerge -u netscape-flash Note that the beta is 32-bit only, so if you are using an amd64 arch, you will need to merge the 32-bit mozilla-firefox-bin, and symlink libflashplayer.so manually: cd /opt/firefox/plugins ln -s /usr/lib32/nsbrowser/plugins/ You can then start the 32-bit firefox with /opt/firefox/firefox. HTH, -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware server problem
On 12/17/06, David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking in /lib/modules/2.6.19-gentoo-r1 directory misc has newly built modules vmmon.ko and vmnet.ko You need to make sure that /usr/src/linux points to the configured sources of your currently running kernel. Otherwise vmmon and vmnet will be built for the wrong kernel version (or wrong kernel config) and fail to load. It would seem that modprobe is looking in the wrong directory. Running strace modprobe vmmon shows a read of /lib/modules/2.6.19-gentoo-r1/ke..., which is (unfortunately) an incomplete path. Use the -s option to increase the length of the strings that strace prints before truncating them...fex: strace -s256 ... -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware server problem
On 12/17/06, David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It sounds like you have a working vmware-server environment. If so, where are your copies of vmmon.ko and vmnet.ko located and are they referenced in modules.alias? Also, any additional thoughts on what I should be looking at/for to solve the modprobe issue? ~ uname -r 2.6.19-gentoo-r1 ~ find /lib/modules/ | grep -e vmmon -e vmnet /lib/modules/2.6.19-gentoo-r1/misc/vmmon.ko /lib/modules/2.6.19-gentoo-r1/misc/vmnet.ko ~ grep -e vmmon -e vmnet /lib/modules/`uname -r`/* /lib/modules/2.6.19-gentoo-r1/modules.dep:/lib/modules/2.6.19-gentoo-r1/misc/vmnet.ko: /lib/modules/2.6.19-gentoo-r1/modules.dep:/lib/modules/2.6.19-gentoo-r1/misc/vmmon.ko: /lib/modules/2.6.19-gentoo-r1/modules.symbols:alias symbol:VMX86_RegisterMonitor vmmon Try insmod'ing the drivers manually: insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/misc/vmmon.ko Also, the output of dmesg might hold some clue. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware server problem
On 12/17/06, David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since .config contains # CONFIG_BRIDGE is not set I do believe I know the cause of _this_ problem. Just to be sure, my next (newbie) question is Is bridged networking the the right option to choose? I'm not sure...I don't have that set, but also I don't use bridged networking in vmware. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why does emerge want firefox???
On 12/11/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have -firefox and -mozilla in /etc/make.conf . Why is emerge trying to pull in Firefox? I don't want Firefox. How do I make it stop? =gnome-extra/yelp-2.16 and =www-client/epiphany-2.16.1 unconditionally depend on firefox. If you want these version installed, you must install firefox also. Otherwise you can mask them, keep 2.14 versions aroundbut you probably won't be able to upgrade to gnome 2.16 either. gnome-extra/yelp has this in ChangeLog: 08 Sep 2006; Daniel Gryniewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] yelp-2.16.0.ebuild: No seamonkey support anymore; remove firefox use flag www-client/epiphany has: 08 Sep 2006; Daniel Gryniewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] epiphany-2.16.0.ebuild: Remove firefox use flag, make dep require firefox 1.5 Not sure why this is...I assume that seamonkey no longer provides whatever functionality is required for the 2.16 versions of these packages. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why does emerge want firefox???
On 12/11/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure why this is...I assume that seamonkey no longer provides whatever functionality is required for the 2.16 versions of these packages. This bug explains: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146876 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xmms lib cruft?
On 12/11/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this an xmms dependency and therefore obsolete and should be removed It is probably a file that was modified after installation (fex by fix_libtool_files), so portage didn't remove it when you unmerged xmms et al. It is safe to delete. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.19-r1 won't boot - arcmsr?
On 12/9/06, Dave Oxley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Dell server that runs Gentoo. I have been running kernel 2.6.18-r3 with the third party arcmsr add on driver without any problems. I have tried to upgrade to 2.6.19-r1 with the kernels inbuild arcmsr driver but I cannot get it to boot. It says that it cannot find the root fs on sdc3. I don't know whether its the onboard ICH5 SATA or the ARCMSR controller that it cannot find. I have 2 disks on the onboard controller (sda and sdb) and 1 raid volume on the ARCMSR (sdc). Can anyone help me please? Maybe the devices changed order? Try root=/dev/sda3. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LAN speeds
On 12/9/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I am scp-ing data between LAN machines both of which have 10/100 ethernet cards, going through a 10/100 router. Using blowfish, I get about say 55682.80 kbits/sec (as shown in iptraf). How much should I be getting considering the speed of the cards? What kind of data? If it is lots of small files, the bottleneck could be reading them from the hard drive. But ~7MB/s sounds reasonable to me...the best I've seen on a 100mbit network is about 10MB/s through TCP. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help with udev (was joliet fs)
On 12/8/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: K3B shows that it Reads DVD: Yes and it does not write on any media. I believe that it is a Compaq branded LG DVD-ROM. Is there anywhere where I can see what types of media it can read, or is this a trial error affair? According to: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/storage/lg8080b/en/specs.htm It should be able to read -R and -RW, but not +R or +RW. Of course you said it read a +R, so I don't know that I completely trust this info. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] One more time -- KDM 3.5.5 and kdesktop crash
On 12/8/06, Steve Brenneis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could not open library kwin.la: /usr/kde/3.5/lib/libkdeinit_kwin.so: undefined symbol: _ZN12NETRootInfo4C2EP9_XDisplaymPKcPmiib Try revdep-rebuild -p and see if that outputs anything needing to be rebuilt. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] One more time -- KDM 3.5.5 and kdesktop crash
On 12/8/06, Steve Brenneis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've done that twice. I guess it's time to file a bug report. Seems it's already reported. Add your info here: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155377 -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] syslog problem....
On 12/8/06, David Corbin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When an initscript says it depends on logger, how does runscript find out what tool provides logger? AFAIK, the provide settings in the init scripts themselves. Try: grep -E provide.*logger /etc/init.d/* -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help with joliet fs
On 12/7/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My /etc/fstab looks like this: /dev/hdc /mnt/dvd auto,iso9660,udf noauto,ro,user,exec 0 0 I'm not sure it is legal to specify a comma-separated list of filesystem types. Probably better to just use auto here. Could you please tell me what sort of Joliet fs options I need to select so as to be able to mount the burned fs, or what do I need to configure in my system to enable me to achieve this? I would guess just CONFIG_JOLIET=y in your kernel configuration. You can find it in Filesystems-CD-ROM/DVD Filesystems under ISO 9660 CDROM filesystem support. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] another strange alsa problem [SOLVED]
On 12/7/06, Matthias Langer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 11:24 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: thanks for your answer that would have been very, very helpful if i hadn't already fixed this problem [1] ;-) Yeah I saw that, but only after I responded. I blame both gmail, for treating messages with different subjects as different threads (so adding SOLVED caused a different thread to appear in my inbox, that I didn't read until later), and myself, for using gmail. :-P -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] syslog problem....
On 12/7/06, David Corbin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I try to start exim, I get this: * Caching service dependencies ... * Service 'sysklogd' already provided by 'logger'!; * Not adding service 'syslog-ng'... [ ok ] * sysklogd - start: syslogd ... /sbin/start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/sbin/syslogd: No such file or directory (No such file or directory) * Failed to start syslogd I don't have exim installed, but I'm guessing it depends on logger, which can be provided by either sysklogd or syslog-ng. Probably: 1. You had sysklogd installed at one point (thus got an init file for it) 2. You emerge -C'd it (thus why /usr/sbin/syslogd doesn't exist) 3. You have /etc in CONFIG_PROTECT but don't have /etc/init.d in CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK, so portage left the sysklogd init file on your system. I'm guessing you should be able to resolve this with: 1. rc-update -d sysklogd 2. rm /etc/init.d/sysklogd Then add /etc/init.d to CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK in /etc/make.conf if you want portage to automatically remove init files when you remove the associated package. HTH, -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] X11 screen saver
On 12/7/06, David Corbin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a recently upgrade my gentoo system, including X11. Now, instead of my KDE screen saver, I get a giant X11 logo. I cannot find where this should be turned off. Any pointers? What does xset -q report for Screen Saver. Xorg has it's own built in screen saver that defaults to activating after 10 minutes. The built-in screen saver displays a large X pattern, unless Xorg determines that the hardware is capable of blanking the screen, in which case it will prefer to do that instead. You should be able to disable the built-in screensaver by running either xset s 0 0, or setting 'Option BlankTime 0' in the ServerLayout section of your xorg.conf. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help with udev (was joliet fs)
On 12/7/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As soon as I run udevstart (or at boot) I get this error about a dozen times: Dec 7 20:45:29 lappy udevd[2187]: lookup_group: specified group 'cdrw' unknown That's because the cdrw group is needed by udev just-in-case you have a cdrw drive. I groupadded cdrw to make sure that I get no more complaints from udev. Then I tried mounting a data DVD but all I get is: $ mount /mnt/cdrom mount: No medium found Is this the same DVD you wrote as before? Can you try writing a different DVD, or a different brand of media. Just write some random small files to it and try that. I'm thinking one of two possibilities here: 1. (unlikely) the 3GB file is confusing things, possibly only files up to 2GB are supported. Note that DVD movies usually split things up into 1GB chunks, probably for these kinds of issues. 2. (likely) your DVD ROM drive is not capable of reading some or all writeable media. Just because it can read a printed DVD, doesn't mean it can read a DVD+R, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW, or DVD-R-DL, etc... So you might try different types and different brands of media to see if you can find something it will read. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] hibernation and various programs.
On 12/7/06, Xamindar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dang this is stupid. You are right, vmware stays up if I hibernate without restarting alsasound. But for me I have no sound when I start up again. Oh well. You could disconnect vmware from the sound device while the virtual machine is still running, which should allow you to restart alsasound without it killing vmware. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udev_run_{hotplugd,devd} failed
On 12/6/06, Mark Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Gorden wrote: I think you should run etc-update once... I'm seeing this as well (udev-103 and have run etc-update). I notice that 50-udev.rules has references to /sbin/udev_run_devd|hotplug Nope, the helper programs moved to /lib/udev/ in udev-103. etc-update should take care of the files that udev currently supplies (like 50-udev.rules). You might have some orphaned files though in /etc/udev/rules.d. Use equery belongs to identify these. -Richard These files do not exist - however /lib/udev/udev_run_devd|hotplug do - is this just a set of typos in the rules files? regards Mark emerge-info Portage 2.1.1-r2 (default-linux/x86/2006.0, gcc-4.1.1, glibc-2.4-r4, 2.6.18-gentoo-r3 i686) = System uname: 2.6.18-gentoo-r3 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) III CPU family 1266MHz Gentoo Base System version 1.12.6 Last Sync: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 11:00:01 + app-admin/eselect-compiler: [Not Present] dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.30 dev-lang/python: 2.4.3-r4 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5 dev-util/ccache: [Not Present] dev-util/confcache: [Not Present] sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.60 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2 sys-devel/binutils: 2.16.1-r3 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.13-r4 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.22 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.17-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 AUTOCLEAN=yes CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/share/X11/xkb CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/gconf /etc/java-config/vms/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/web2c CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=autoconfig distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/gentoo/ ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/gentoo/ http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/Gentoo ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/Gentoo PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude='/distfiles' --exclude='/local' --exclude='/packages' PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=x86 X alsa apache2 apm arts berkdb bitmap-fonts cdr cli cracklib crypt cups dlloader dri dvd eds elibc_glibc emboss encode esd foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif gpm gstreamer gtk2 iconv imlib input_devices_evdev input_devices_keyboard input_devices_mouse ipv6 isdnlog jpeg kde kernel_linux libg++ libwww mad mikmod motif mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nptl nptlonly ogg opengl oss pam pcre perl png pppd python qt qt3 qt4 quicktime readline reflection sdl session spell spl ssl tcpd truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts udev userland_GNU video_cards_apm video_cards_ark video_cards_ati video_cards_chips video_cards_cirrus video_cards_cyrix video_cards_dummy video_cards_fbdev video_cards_glint video_cards_i128 video_cards_i740 video_cards_i810 video_cards_imstt video_cards_mga video_cards_neomagic video_cards_nsc video_cards_nv video_cards_rendition video_cards_s3 video_cards_s3virge video_cards_savage video_cards_siliconmotion video_cards_sis video_cards_sisusb video_cards_tdfx video_cards_tga video_cards_trident video_cards_tseng video_cards_v4l video_cards_vesa video_cards_vga video_cards_via video_cards_vmware video_cards_voodoo vorbis xml xorg xv zlib Unset: CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, MAKEOPTS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] DVD drives
On 12/6/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking at these right now. Can someone help me pick from these four? I don't see much difference myself. Well the two NEC models are identical hardware, just different colors. If I were making a choice between those 4...er 3...I would probably go with the LG for no reason other than the slightly better access times. Either one supports every format that you could care about currently. Also, correct me if I am wrong here, these will still burn CD-R and CD-RWs right? Yes. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] One more time -- KDM 3.5.5 and kdesktop crash
On 12/6/06, Steve Brenneis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had this under a title related to nVidia drivers, but I have determined that my KDM problems probably aren't related to that. After upgrading to KDE 3.5.5, I can no longer start KDE from KDM. Kdesktop crashes and leaves no trail. I rebuilt kdestop with the debug USE flag, but I have no idea where to look for debugging information. I can start KDE from a regular terminal session using startx. Any ideas? There are two possible locations to look at for error messages. Errors before the session starts should show up in /var/log/kdm.log. Errors from the session itself should be in ~/.xsession-errors. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xfce update with wrong versions
On 12/6/06, Bertram Scharpf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ebuild U ] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.3.99.2 [4.3.90.2] USE=-debug -doc 292 kB Since versions =4.3.90.1 are p.masked, I'm guessing you've got a problem between /etc/portgage/package.mask and /etc/portage/package.unmask. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM boot problem
On 12/6/06, Mirco Bakker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi For the archives: Problems solved. The missing ethernet interface resulted from two missing links in /sbin (udev_run_devd, udev_run_hotplugd). I've created them now manually. I think they should get installed when emerging udev. A this point I have no idea why they were missing on my system (if someone has an idea please reply). Anyway it works fine again. No, you should not have any udev utilities in /sbin now. They now live in /lib/udev. In the udev rules files, you should not specify any path for any utilities that you want to run (use PROGRAM=foo instead of PROGRAM=/path/foo). Also rules files owned by udev (like 50-udev.rules) should show an update required when you run etc-update, and you should accept the new file, rather than keeping any changes you made. You should only make changes to 10-local.rules. Also, there might be some orphans in /etc/udev/rules.d. You can find these with equery belongs /etc/udev.d/rules.d/filename. Anything that doesn't belong to a package (other than 10-local.rules, and 70-persistent-*.rules) could probably be removed. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM boot problem
On 12/6/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, you should not have any udev utilities in /sbin now. Bah. s/utilities/helpers/g -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s
On 12/5/06, Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12/5/06, Leandro Melo de Sales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
# date
Tue Dec 5 10:12:01 BRT 2006
# emerge openoffice
{ in other terminal }
# date
Tue Dec 5 15:24:01 BRT 2006
and portage continues to compile openoffice, it didn't finished yet.
Is it so slow or there are something wrong? My machine is a P4 (with
HyperThreading enabled), 512Mb.
You may expect something between 5 and 10 hours of compilation...
/home/rjf genlop -t openoffice
* app-office/openoffice
Mon Nov 13 01:35:33 2006 app-office/openoffice-2.0.4
merge time: 2 hours, 39 minutes and 34 seconds.
Fri Nov 17 05:21:32 2006 app-office/openoffice-2.0.4
merge time: 2 hours, 33 minutes and 31 seconds.
That's on an Athlon X2 4400+ with 2GB of RAM, with MAKEOPTS=-j2 and
WANT_MP=true in the environment. (Hmm, I should time this on my Core
Duo laptop also...)
But yeah, on a single-core P4 with 512MB, I'd expect on the order of
5-10 hours too. You might want to shutdown memory-consuming apps
(like X!) while the compile is running.
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Re: [gentoo-user] kdelibs
On 12/4/06, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm having trouble with a routine update on a system. [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.4-r2 (is blocking kde-base/kde-env-3-r4) [ebuild N] kde-base/kde-env-3-r4 0 kB I've unmerged kde-base/kdelibs several times and then tried to install kde-env. But then I cannot update kdelibs. Since it takes forever to compile kdelibs, I'm curious the steps to take to get this routing upgrade completed. I get this after removal of kdelibs and emerging kde-env: [blocks B ] kde-base/kde-env (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r5) [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.4-r2 (is blocking kde-base/kde-env-3-r4) any ideas how to fix this catch 22? kde-env is superseded by current kdelibs versions. You should add the --tree option to your routine update command to see what is wrongly trying to pull in kde-env. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerging nis-utils
On 12/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should have read the email before i sent it. Sorry. I am installing nis on my network of gentoo machines. During the compilation step I keep having the error in the original message. I performed a find / -name mp.h on my system and couldn't find it. If you need it, i can supply the call stack. What version of nis-utils are you merging? Also, what version of dev-libs/gmp do you have installed? Perhaps this bug may give you an idea: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135102#c10 -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SATA
On 12/3/06, Alan E. Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as kernel setup, I am using gentoo sources, 2.6.18 r3. These SATA configs: Did you also remember SCSI disk (CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD) support? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can Neon be slotted?
On 12/3/06, Michael Crute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to run both davfs2 and subversion which depend on different and incompatible versions of neon. Can neon be slotted so I can run both at the same time? What versions of these are you trying to run? davfs2-1.1.3-r1 and subversion-1.4.2 both depend on just net-misc/neon, without any version deps, so I presume they both work with the current neon-0.26.1-r1. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Daylight Savings Time patch ...
On 12/2/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think a better solution would be to get rid of the DST and be done with it. What exactly is that for anyway? I agree. In fact, we should just do away with timezones altogether and all start using UTC. :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Changing the CHOST variable
On 12/2/06, Randy Barlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # ls -L /usr/bin/as # ls -L /usr/bin/as ls: cannot access /usr/bin/as: No such file or directory The bizarre thing is that I can use the tab completion to see that there is an entry for /usr/bin/as there... This means that /usr/bin/as is a broken symlink, since -L is the dereference option. But binutils-config should fix that... # env-update /usr/bin/python: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot handle TLS data ...unless glibc is broken in which case nothing will work... I have a suspicion that changing the ntpl/ntplonly use flags at the same time as changing CHOST wasn't a good idea. :-( At this point, you probably need to boot from a liveCD and restore /lib/libc-2.4.so and /lib/libc.so.6 from a backup, or copy them from the liveCD. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Update - HowTo
On 12/2/06, Helmut Jarausch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The next step which I'm afraid of is upgrading to glibc-2.5 Having destroyed (the system) of my machine some years ago by upgrading glibc (on Suse), I know that this is not a trivial step. Actually the glibc-2.4 to 2.5 upgrade is pretty trivial, *if* you already have nptl/nptlonly USE flags set. If you are using a i386 CHOST (vs i686 or x86_64), then you end up having to change CHOST before you can upgrade since glibc-2.5 is nptlonly, and that is not trivial unfortunately. See the current thread on this list. So, the question: Is there a general source of information about warnings, actions to be taking, etc to be followed when upgrading certains critical packages. Generally speaking, if you set in make.conf: PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES=warn error log PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM=save then any ebuilds that want to warn you or give you actions to take will create files in /var/log/portage/elog/ for you to read. You can just delete these once you've taken whatever action is required. More complicated upgrades (like the switch to modular-X, or gcc upgrades) usually have some kind of guide created before they reach stable. But at this point, there isn't any single-page reference for these guides...probably something we should have. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading tetex, not finding crti.o [solved]
On 12/2/06, Bertram Scharpf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - remove the 3.4.6 version by emerge -C ... (almost nothing works now) - create symlinks /usr/i386-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin - ..i686... /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/3.4.6 - ... /4.1.1 - re-emerge gcc, glibc and several other packages This was probably too much effort, but I'm happy that it works at all. Ok, it sounds like you just upgraded gcc versions. So an emerge -e world is called for if you want to be safe. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XMMS: Bye, Bye Gentoo
On 12/1/06, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: · Mike Huber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There are plenty of packages within portage which have no longer been maintained for just as long as xmms (see cgoban for an example). Possible, yes. But even if that occurs, it really isn't a big deal. You'll just need to copy the ebuild to your local overlay and preserve the distfiles. Portage makes it really simple to manage packages outside of the main portage tree. And if you have a problem with the ebuild, it is fairly easy to find someone willing to help. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Changing the CHOST variable
On 12/1/06, Randy Barlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So my compiler is broke. Any pointers on how to fix this? One thing I just thought of is that I could add the executables installed by binutils to my $PATH so that it can find them to build the new compiler - perhaps that will work? etc-update source /etc/profile should take care of that for you. HTH, -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Changing the CHOST variable
On 12/1/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/1/06, Randy Barlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So my compiler is broke. Any pointers on how to fix this? One thing I just thought of is that I could add the executables installed by binutils to my $PATH so that it can find them to build the new compiler - perhaps that will work? etc-update source /etc/profile should take care of that for you. er, I meant env-update source /etc/profile. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SegFault while compiling gcc 4.1.1
On 11/29/06, Vladimir G. Ivanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Have you seen this error message in an emerge? Yes. 2. Have you subsequently identified a hardware problem, fixed the hardware problem, and have not seen the message since? Yes. The problem was memory timings...or more specifically the RAM didn't really work as fast as its manufacturer claimed. Dropping the memory timings, and later replacing the RAM, fixed the problem. 3. Have you re-run the emerge and not seen the message in a while (please indicate how long a while is.) No. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading tetex, not finding crti.o
On 11/30/06, Bertram Scharpf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, the output of '... 21 myfile' seems not to happen in the correct order. Just for future reference, you want myfile 21. The order is significant, as the command that you ran first redirected stderr to the same location as stdout, _then_redirected stdout to the file, leaving stderr pointing at whatever stdout was going to. Reversing the order first redirects stdout to the file, then redirects stdout to the same place. http://www.bertram-scharpf.de/tmp/emerge-info http://www.bertram-scharpf.de/tmp/emerge-vuD-tetex Ok, a few things: 1) in your original message, you stated that you had a directory /usr/lib/gcc/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.6 In fact, based on your emerge --info, you should have: /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.6 Was this a typo in your original message, or do you have both i386- and i686- compilers installed? (gcc-config -l) 2) Assuming you don't have multiple compilers installed, I don't understand why you have an i386-pc-linux-g++ command. Where is this located (which i386-pc-linux-g++), and what owns it (equery belongs i386-pc-linux-g++)? 3) It looks like you changed from a i386 CHOST to i686, in addition to changing compiler versions. In this case, you need to do: fix_libtool_files.sh 3.4.5 --oldarch i386-pc-linux-gnu Just a quick explanation of libtool and why that command is needed: normally when a program is compiled and linked against dynamic libraries, the link command must include all dependent libraries as well. So if I link prog against liba.so, and liba.so requires libb.so, I must include both liba and libb on the link command for prog or I will end up with unresolved symbol errors. But this is really a nightmare, because liba may only /sometimes/ depend on libb, depending upon what options liba was compiled with. Determining which systems needs to link against libb and which ones do not was very problematic. This is the problem that libtool is intended to solve, and it does it fairly well. If prog and liba both use libtool, then when liba is compiled and installed, there is a libtool archive (.la) file that is generated and installed at the same time. This archive contains the link options required to successfully link against liba, including any dependent libraries. So when the build process for prog is linked, it uses libtool, and tells libtool to link prog against liba. Libtool looks in the .la file for liba, and sees that linking against libb is also required, and adds it automatically. The problem that gcc-upgrades introduce to this system though is that the libtool files contain references to object (.o) files located in the gcc installation. When you upgrade gcc, the directory structure changes, and the libtool files now reference files that do not exist. So, fix_libtool_files.sh was created for gentoo systems to correct all libtool archives. HTH, -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SegFault while compiling gcc 4.1.1
On 11/30/06, Vladimir G. Ivanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have done nothing to my hardware and I've seen this error, oh, a half a dozen times, the last time 3 months (?) ago. I ran memtest when I installed new memory, and it did not report problems even when run for hours. memtest is basically useless these days. It can only tell you if you have a bad memory cell, which almost never happens today. Most memory problems are the result of timing issues between the processor(s) and DMA controllers. This script [1] seems to be a much better memory test for modern systems, although you may have to make some tweaks to run it on Gentoo. And I do not get random segfaults with other programs. Yes, compiling is very unique in this regard. The memory access pattern of a compiler, reading and writing to locations on different rows, or even different modules, under high CPU load and using lots of memory, with some IO thrown in for good measure, tends to reveal hardware problems quite nicely. Finally, I don't think my hardware fixed itself. Given all of this, my suspicion is that these errors are software bugs, not hardware problems. If we were talking about a driver, or an event-based GUI program, I might agree. But a compiler is going to take the exact same actions given the same input and options. The compiler isn't going to do something different between 2 different executions over the _exact_ same sources because it feels like it. The other thing that I don't really believe is the part about this bug not being reproducible as reported by portage/emerge/make/gcc. Then you should read the gcc sources. One of the patches applied by Gentoo adds a retry loop when the compiler is about to exit with an internal compiler error (ICE). It retries the compile twice, and if either of those succeeds, you get the The bug is not reproducible message. It doesn't output anything because that would possibly obscure the original error. The gentoo devs probably added this loop to avoid more duplicates of [2]. -Richard [1] http://people.redhat.com/dledford/memtest.html [2] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20600 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading tetex, not finding crti.o
On 11/30/06, Randy Barlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something that's been bugging me about my system - I accidentally used an i386 stage 3 when I installed, and didn't notice until long after the machine was configures. Can I just change the CHOST setting to i686 and use fix_libtool_files.sh along with an emerge world or something like that? You end up recompiling *everything*. But there is a guide to help you: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/change-chost.xml Would this destroy my system? It should be possible to do safely, but I would make a backup just in case, and since you are about to emerge -e world anyway, make sure you have some down time available. Is there any benefit at all to using an i686 CHOST as opposed to i386? Yes. For one thing it allows you to use nptl which is more efficient for threading than pthreads. In fact, glibc-2.5 is nptl _only_, so upgrading to glibc-2.5 will require CHOST to be i486 or better. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Best method for automounting...
On 11/30/06, Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, I've looked into using hal,dbus and media:/ in konqueror... It works to a degree, but the hal daemon has a nasty habit of polling the cd card/pcmcia to such a degree that autofs won't unmount the then when you're done... I've had very good results just using the hal+dbus+pmount method with KDE. I haven't had any issues with Unmount/Eject options from the KDE device menu popups, or noticed any signfiicant polling by hal. Are you sure it is hald, and not something else (like ivman or autofs) that is polling? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] switching X.org resolution - how ???
On 11/28/06, krgn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh ok, that might be it. I use the open source nvidia driver (nv). But I would expect that to work with it, right? Yeah, it should work, unless you are using the Option Rotate in your xorg.conf, in which case the extension gets disabled. Check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Something like: grep -i randr /var/log/Xorg.0.log -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev upgrade and non-working eth0
On 11/27/06, Mrugesh Karnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 28 November 2006 07:31, Richard Fish wrote: can see a 75-persistent-net-generator.rules file in there.. Hmm, not sure how I got a 70-persistent-net.rules. There is some interaction between that and 75-persistent-net-generator.rules (and the /lib/udev/write_net_rules script), but I'm a bit too tired to figure it out ATM. It looks like 70-... should be created by the write_net_rules script... RULES_FILE='/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules' That's the first line of write_net_rules. Right. I just wasn't able to figure out why you didn't already have this file created, nor why my laptop had it but not my desktop. So the story is that 75-persistent-net-generator.rules will call the script when ethernet devices are added, and it is up to the write_net_rules script to generate 70-persistent-net.rules. The problem is that when udev starts very early in the boot process, your root filesystem may still be mounted read-only, preventing this file from being created. This worked on my laptop, because I added module aliases to prevent udev from coldplugging the ipw3945 driver, since it requires a daemon to be running in order to work and that required /var to be mounted. The module is loaded later in the boot process, after all of the filesystems are mounted read-write, and that allowed udev to create the rules file for me, but only for that adapter. The upshot of this is this: by far the easiest way to solve the net-naming problem is to run /lib/udev/write_net_rules all_interfaces This will generate the rules for all interfaces, and then you can just edit the file to change the names as you like. So I guess I'll know that for the next person that asks. :-P -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading tetex, not finding crti.o
On 11/29/06, Bertram Scharpf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am trying to upgrade teTex using `emerge -pvuD tetex'. The compiling process aborts with an error message saying that this file could not be found: /usr/lib/gcc/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/../../../crti.o Can you post your emerge --info, and the everything between the make command that caused this error to the end of the emerge output. The last 20-30 lines of build output should suffice if you can identify the make command that caused the problem. Thanks, -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
On 11/29/06, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, the point is: what browser now? IMO konqueror rocks. The split-window browsing feature is something that every other browser should adopt _now_! But there are still sites that don't fully support it, so I keep firefox/bon echo around for those. A nice thing in konqueror is that you can right-click on any link and open it in firefox, opera, or whatever. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] browser advice
On 11/29/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you use the split window feature for browsing (as opposed to file manager actions)? I typically use it for something like google or bugzilla search results. I drag links from the browser pane that has the search results to the other pane to display each item and browse from there. Much easier than hitting the back button several times and much tidier than opening new windows or tabs. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new udev (?) loading ipw3945 without starting ipw3945d
On 11/29/06, Daniel Barkalow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I switched to udev-103 recently, and now when I boot I find that ipw3945d is not getting started, which causes my wireless card to not appear at all. rmmod ipw3945; modprobe ipw3945 once the system has started works. Any advice? my /etc/modules.d/ipw3945 file contains the following: install ipw3945 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install ipw3945 ; sleep 0.2; /sbin/ipw3945d --quiet remove ipw3945 /sbin/ipw3945d --kill ; sleep 0.2; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove ipw3945 alias pci:v8086d4222sv*sd*bc*sc*i* off alias pci:v8086d4227sv*sd*bc*sc*i* off The alias lines are necessary to prevent udev from coldplugging the driver which otherwise would occur at a very early point in the boot sequence...in fact before /var is mounted on my system. Without /var mounted and read-write, ipw3945d cannot start. I then /sbin/modprobe ipw3945 in /etc/conf.d/local.start to load the module near the end of the boot sequence. Perhaps you need to do something similar? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] switching X.org resolution - how ???
On 11/28/06, karlos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get: Xlib: extension RANDR missing on display :0.0. what is necessesary in config to get this extension working? I have libXrandr / randrproto / xrandr installed. It is a built-in extension (you should see (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR in /var/log/Xorg.0.log), but the GPU driver needs to support it. What GPU and driver are you using? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package.keywords
On 11/27/06, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, due to a human error I've deleted my package.keyowrd file... (echo package ~x86 /etc/portage/package.keywords) How may I find which packages were in the file? I'm afraid of doing an update... Option 1: # emerge -DNvp world Look for things with a 'D' for downgrade in front of them. Option 2: # cd /var/db/pkg # grep -l ~x86 */*/KEYWORDS | sed s/\/KEYWORDS// HTH, -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev upgrade and non-working eth0
On 11/27/06, Mrugesh Karnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
# ethernet devices
ACTION==add, SUBSYSTEM==net, SYSFS{address}==00:13:d3:60:4a:a5,
NAME=eth0
ACTION==add, SUBSYSTEM==net, SYSFS{address}==00:0d:88:45:c1:c9,
NAME=eth1
No go. They didn't swap.
Just in case, you did make those 2, not 4, lines right? Silly gmail
word-wrapping... :-(
What do udevtest /class/net/eth0 and udevtest /class/net/eth1
report? Also udevinfo -a -p /class/net/eth0 and udevinfo -a -p
/class/net/eth1.
-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: wlan0 is sssloooow
On 11/27/06, Sergio Polini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NB: ping www.google.com is slow, ping 192.168.2.1 is either too much slow or blocked. route is slow, route -n is fast. Ok, two things to try. First, remove the 192.168.2.1 nameserver from resolve.conf. That nameserver may be broken and unable to resolve names on the internet. This should help the ping www.google.com case. Second, does ping -I wlan0 192.168.2.1 work better? Oh, one last thingyou don't have any firewall rules enabled, right? (iptables --list) -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Disk going a lot slower now...
On 11/27/06, Chris Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: showed a write speed as quoted above, and a read speed of about 280 MB per second... This seems more like the SATA-II interface speed of ~300MB/s... Though the same one reported a read speed of about 900+ MB per second for my USB drive (not really possible, since the maximum speed for USB 2.0 is about 480 MB / second). Yeah, bogus. And remember that 480 is megabits/sec (Mb/s)...actually more like 60MiB/s maximum throughput (although I have yet to get more than 29MiB/s from any USB drive). This is very frustrating. At first the drive was quite fast, under windows and now it is extremely slow... I asked about this in a windows xp pro group, and so far no one is touching it. Well I would first poke around in the device manager for the SATA interface and make sure it is not in PIO mode. Then check the property pages of the disk and make sure that write caching is enabled. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev upgrade and non-working eth0
On 11/27/06, Mrugesh Karnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
udevd-event[3110]: rename_netif: error changing net interface name eth0_rename
to eth1: No such device.
Hmm, haven't seen this error, but these rules (based on
70-persistent-net.rules) might work better:
SUBSYSTEM==net, ATTRS{address}==00:13:d3:60:4a:a5, NAME=eth0
SUBSYSTEM==net, ATTRS{address}==00:0d:88:45:c1:c9, NAME=eth1
/me thinks about setting RC_DEVICE_TARBALL=yes
This won't help for ethernet naming. There is no /dev/eth* device
node, after all.
-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] udev 103, alsa dual soundcard problem
On 11/27/06, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even worse is that udev seems to discover the sound cards in the reverse order to coldplug. My Audigy card becomes /dev/dsp1 and the Intel card is /dev/dsp0. Unfortunately, Audacious, my music player of choice, doesn't seem to offer any choice of which dsp to use. A couple of notes: 1. any application using /dev/dsp* is _not_ using alsa. It is using the legacy oss emulation mode of alsa. Real alsa device names are things like hw:0,0, or virtual device names like default. 2. The only way to set the card order is to load the drivers in the desired order. udev unfortunately has no control over which card becomes hw:0 vs hw:1. 3. You can prevent udev from coldplugging drivers automatically by aliasing the PCI ID of the hardware to off. For example, my ipw3945 wireless card will not work when coldplugged by udev, so I have the following in /etc/modules.d/ipw3945: alias pci:v8086d4222sv*sd*bc*sc*i* off alias pci:v8086d4227sv*sd*bc*sc*i* off This inhibits udev from loading the ipw3945 module when it scans the PCI bus (ok, technically the pci device entries in /sys). If you do something similar, adding alias entries to /etc/modules.d/alsa, you should be able to have the modules loaded in the correct order when the alsasound script runs. You can get the list of pci aliases for a module with: grep module_name /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.alias Remember to run modules-update after making changes in /etc/modules.d/ for the changes to take effect. HTH, -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
