On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 12:20:29PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
No no no! LiLo, on a six year old machine actually works well. It does
exactly what it says on the packet, i.e. it boots up the machine, and
nothing more. I use LiLo, mainly to avoid the complexities of Grub.
--
Alan
On Wednesday 20 May 2015 21:35:11 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 20 May 2015 16:08:53 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
I followed the instructions in
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2_Migration, after copying my
grub.conf as you suggested, but when I rebooted, the GRUB2 menu text
was
On Thu, 21 May 2015 09:13:44 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
This is my grub.conf (copied in from my e-mail yesterday):
root (hd0,0)
timeout 10
default 0
fallback 3
color white/blue black/light-gray
splashimage /grub/splash.xpm.gz
title=Gentoo Linux 3.18.12
kernel
On Thu, 21 May 2015 12:44:42 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
If you're just going to hand-edit your config file, I don't see much
point in sticking this stuff in /etc/grub.d. Just hand-edit your
config file and forget about grub2-mkconfig.
You mean: copy grub.conf to grub.cfg and change
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 4:33 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
That's a GRUB1 file, GRUB2 uses a different syntax so your first entry
would become
menuentry Gentoo Linux 3.18.12 {
linux /boot/kernel-x86_64-3.18.12-gentoo root=/dev/md5 net.ifnames=0 irqpoll
}
Correct.
Also,
On Thursday 21 May 2015 07:34:58 Rich Freeman wrote:
If you're just going to hand-edit your config file, I don't see much
point in sticking this stuff in /etc/grub.d. Just hand-edit your
config file and forget about grub2-mkconfig.
You mean: copy grub.conf to grub.cfg and change its syntax
On Thu, 21 May 2015 07:34:58 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
Also, you need to copy 40_custom and then add your lines to that.
This is because files in /etc/grub.d are executed, so it needs to be
a shell script.
If you're just going to hand-edit your config file, I don't see much
point in
On Thu, 21 May 2015 13:10:02 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
You mean: copy grub.conf to grub.cfg and change its syntax to suit
GRUB2? I'm well used to hand editing grub.conf, so it'll be no big
change to operate on grub.cfg instead. I can cope with that.
You'd need to run grub2-mkconfig
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2015 12:44:42 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
If you're just going to hand-edit your config file, I don't see much
point in sticking this stuff in /etc/grub.d. Just hand-edit your
config file and forget
On Thu, 21 May 2015 09:19:26 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
You mean: copy grub.conf to grub.cfg and change its syntax to suit
GRUB2? I'm well used to hand editing grub.conf, so it'll be no big
change to operate on grub.cfg instead. I can cope with that.
You'd need to run grub2-mkconfig
On Sunday 17 May 2015 10:09:11 Rich Freeman wrote:
Just a few clarifications below.
One thing this discussion is missing is any mention of BIOS / EFI.
Which reminds me: can anyone here confirm whether grub-legacy can handle GPT?
I'm getting close to building my new system and I don't want to
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 5:42 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote:
No, it's only new SSDs, not the whole system, which is six years old. Does
that mean my choice is restricted to just the two versions of GRUB?
Well, you could always use syslinux or something else. However, GRUB
is
On Wed, 20 May 2015 13:01:20 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
You should really consider moving to GRUB2 though.
Last time I looked, it couldn't handle all the kernels and options I
have.
GRUB2 can handle anything GRUB1 can. You probably mean that
grub2-mkconfig couldn't do what you want,
On Wednesday 20 May 2015 06:26:08 Rich Freeman wrote:
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 5:42 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote:
No, it's only new SSDs, not the whole system, which is six years old. Does
that mean my choice is restricted to just the two versions of GRUB?
Well, you could
On Wed, 20 May 2015 06:51:53 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
You should really consider moving to GRUB2 though. I don't know about
legacy GRUB, but GRUB2 can handle your boot partition being on btrfs.
I still left space on my drives for a boot partition anyway, since it
will be
On 05/20/2015 05:23 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 20 May 2015 10:16:09 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
Which reminds me: can anyone here confirm whether grub-legacy can
handle GPT? I'm getting close to building my new system and I don't
want to change too many things at once. By which I
On Wed, 20 May 2015 06:19:52 -0400, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote:
I do not find grub2 complicated, although I've never had a setup with
LVM or RAID. It's always just been:
It's not more complicated, just different.
grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
# cosmetic changes to /etc/default/grub
On Wed, 20 May 2015 10:42:41 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
No, it's only new SSDs, not the whole system, which is six years old.
Does that mean my choice is restricted to just the two versions of GRUB?
No, you could use LiLo ;-)
--
Neil Bothwick
System halted - hit any Microsoft employee to
On Wednesday 20 May 2015 11:23:21 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 20 May 2015 10:42:41 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
No, it's only new SSDs, not the whole system, which is six years old.
Does that mean my choice is restricted to just the two versions of GRUB?
No, you could use LiLo ;-)
Ho ho
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 5:42 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote:
No, it's only new SSDs, not the whole system, which is six years old. Does
that mean my choice is restricted to just the two versions of GRUB?
Well, you could always use
On Wednesday 20 May 2015 10:23:55 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 20 May 2015 10:16:09 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
Which reminds me: can anyone here confirm whether grub-legacy can
handle GPT? I'm getting close to building my new system and I don't
want to change too many things at once. By
On Wed, 20 May 2015 10:16:09 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
Which reminds me: can anyone here confirm whether grub-legacy can
handle GPT? I'm getting close to building my new system and I don't
want to change too many things at once. By which I mean that I'm going
to try btrfs (my fingers will
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, 20 May 2015 06:51:53 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
You should really consider moving to GRUB2 though. I don't know about
legacy GRUB, but GRUB2 can handle your boot partition being on btrfs.
I still left space on my drives for a
On Wed, 20 May 2015 08:21:34 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
If you want to be able to use UEFI, you need to use GPT. UEFI needs a
FAT partition at the start of the drive, type FE00, but booting a GPT
disk with MBR requires a small BIOS boot partition, type EF02, at the
start of the
On Wednesday 20 May 2015 13:55:27 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 20 May 2015 08:21:34 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
If you want to be able to use UEFI, you need to use GPT. UEFI needs a
FAT partition at the start of the drive, type FE00, but booting a GPT
disk with MBR requires a
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, 20 May 2015 08:21:34 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
If you want to be able to use UEFI, you need to use GPT. UEFI needs a
FAT partition at the start of the drive, type FE00, but booting a GPT
disk with MBR requires a small BIOS boot
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 12:56:36PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Wednesday 20 May 2015 11:23:21 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 20 May 2015 10:42:41 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
No, it's only new SSDs, not the whole system, which is six years old.
Does that mean my choice is restricted to
On Wed, 20 May 2015 14:29:27 +0100, Mick wrote:
Thanks, does the 1mb partition have to have anything in it?
No. If doesn't even need a filesystem, just create the partition with
the correct type and GRUB will work.
From what I recall gdisk just starts at sector 2048, doesn't this
On Wed, 20 May 2015 09:24:12 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
Thanks, does the 1mb partition have to have anything in it?
No. If doesn't even need a filesystem, just create the partition with
the correct type and GRUB will work.
I have been usinglilo, so till I need to go to a
On Wednesday 20 May 2015 13:08:42 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 20 May 2015 13:01:20 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
You should really consider moving to GRUB2 though.
Last time I looked, it couldn't handle all the kernels and options I
have.
GRUB2 can handle anything GRUB1 can. You
On Wed, 20 May 2015 16:09 Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote:
I followed the instructions in https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2_Migration
,
after copying my grub.conf as you suggested, but when I rebooted, the GRUB2
menu text was minuscule, it only included one of the five kernel lines
On 20 May 2015 18:46:26 CEST, Bob Wya bob.mt@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 20 May 2015 16:09 Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote:
I followed the instructions in
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2_Migration
,
after copying my grub.conf as you suggested, but when I rebooted, the
GRUB2
menu
On Wed, 20 May 2015 16:46:26 +, Bob Wya wrote:
Personally I feel the Grub 2 OS detection script sucks really badly. So
much so that I completely re-wrote it so I got proper entries for my
various Windows installs (version accurately detected using chntpw) and
multiple Linux distros
On Wed, 20 May 2015 16:08:53 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
I followed the instructions in
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2_Migration, after copying my
grub.conf as you suggested, but when I rebooted, the GRUB2 menu text
was minuscule, it only included one of the five kernel lines it should
On Wednesday 20 May 2015 15:26:59 I wrote:
Looks like I don't have much of an excuse now. I'll think of something
though... ;-)
Never a truer word...
I followed the instructions in https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2_Migration,
after copying my grub.conf as you suggested, but when I
On 18/05/2015 20:21, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:08 AM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On the other hand, both btrfs and zfs will get you a level of data
security that you simply won't get from ext4+lvm+mdadm - protection
from silent corruption.
That's one of the
On Sunday 17 May 2015 21:36:57 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
Am 2015-05-17 um 18:05 schrieb Peter Humphrey:
Maybe I will. I suspect dodgy disks and I have a pair of new SSDs on the
way. Perhaps it's time for a rethink.
perhaps one more thought to be thought right now:
(I overlooked this at
On Tue, 19 May 2015 10:02:38 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
skip mdadm and lvm ... and try btrfs as you have the chance on shiny
new hardware
I also have a spare external hard disk, which I could experiment with
for snapshots etc.
Snapshots are subvolumes in btrfs, so they stay in the
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 6:13 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2015 10:02:38 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
skip mdadm and lvm ... and try btrfs as you have the chance on shiny
new hardware
I also have a spare external hard disk, which I could experiment with
for
On Tue, May 19 2015, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 11:22 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
On Tue, May 19 2015, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Tuesday 19 May 2015 10:53:26 Rich Freeman wrote:
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk
wrote:
Incidentally,
On Tuesday 19 May 2015 10:53:26 Rich Freeman wrote:
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk
wrote:
Incidentally, what's the received wisdom on frequency of file-system
trimming on SSDs these days? I've seen values quoted between twice a day
and once a week.
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote:
On Tuesday 19 May 2015 10:53:26 Rich Freeman wrote:
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk
wrote:
Incidentally, what's the received wisdom on frequency of file-system
trimming on
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 11:22 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
On Tue, May 19 2015, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Tuesday 19 May 2015 10:53:26 Rich Freeman wrote:
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk
wrote:
Incidentally, what's the received wisdom on frequency of
On Tuesday 19 May 2015 10:53:26 Rich Freeman wrote:
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk
wrote:
Incidentally, what's the received wisdom on frequency of file-system
trimming on SSDs these days? I've seen values quoted between twice a day
and once a week.
On Tuesday 19 May 2015 08:54:26 Rich Freeman wrote:
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 6:13 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2015 10:02:38 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
skip mdadm and lvm ... and try btrfs as you have the chance on shiny
new hardware
I also have a spare
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote:
Incidentally, what's the received wisdom on frequency of file-system trimming
on SSDs these days? I've seen values quoted between twice a day and once a
week. And how does trimming affect btrfs?
I've been trimming
Am Tue, 19 May 2015 10:53:26 -0400
schrieb Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org:
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk
wrote:
Incidentally, what's the received wisdom on frequency of file-system
trimming
on SSDs these days? I've seen values quoted between
On Tue, May 19 2015, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Tuesday 19 May 2015 10:53:26 Rich Freeman wrote:
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk
wrote:
Incidentally, what's the received wisdom on frequency of file-system
trimming on SSDs these days? I've seen values
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 11:22 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
On Tue, May 19 2015, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Tuesday 19 May 2015 10:53:26 Rich Freeman wrote:
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk
wrote:
Incidentally,
Am 2015-05-19 um 22:17 schrieb Rich Freeman:
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 12:23 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
Do you know if the Samsung 850 evo or similar are considered brain-dead?
That's what I'm using, and I couldn't find anything too useful on
Google, so I might just test it out.
wow,
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 12:23 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
Do you know if the Samsung 850 evo or similar are considered brain-dead?
That's what I'm using, and I couldn't find anything too useful on
Google, so I might just test it out.
--
Rich
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote:
Hmm. Looks like I'm hijacking Nuno's thread. Apologies if that's ruffled any
feathers, but I think I'm still on-topic, more or less, and he may still be
interested in the conversation.
No sweat, i intend to get an SSD
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:08 AM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On the other hand, both btrfs and zfs will get you a level of data
security that you simply won't get from ext4+lvm+mdadm - protection
from silent corruption.
That's one of the advantages i see in ZFS. Do you use it
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt wrote:
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:08 AM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On the other hand, both btrfs and zfs will get you a level of data
security that you simply won't get from ext4+lvm+mdadm - protection
from
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 10:35 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
Just a few clarifications below.
One thing this discussion is missing is any mention of BIOS / EFI.
Most of the discussion below seems most relevant to a legacy BIOS
installation. Many
Just a few clarifications below.
One thing this discussion is missing is any mention of BIOS / EFI.
Most of the discussion below seems most relevant to a legacy BIOS
installation. Many specialized Gentoo install docs, like mdadm+lvm,
don't really make mention of EFI, or other more recent
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
Just a few clarifications below.
One thing this discussion is missing is any mention of BIOS / EFI.
Most of the discussion below seems most relevant to a legacy BIOS
installation. Many specialized Gentoo install docs, like mdadm+lvm,
don't really make
On Sunday 17 May 2015 10:09:11 Rich Freeman wrote:
---8
Most people using openrc are also using systemd-udev (and there is a
good chance you do too). The latter was previously named udev and
long predates what most people call systemd. Eudev is a fork of udev,
which comes from after it came
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
There were problems with btrfs and the kernel a few months ago (Rich
Freeman was hit by that, maybe he chimes in here), but in general for me
it is still a very positive experience.
It is nowhere near the stability
On Sun, 17 May 2015 12:48:58 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
I want to use mdadm to create a RAID1 with 2 SATA disks. From what i
gather, i'll need (bootable) 0xFD partitions, i'll use full disk for
them and no separate /boot (unless required). Is GPT required or can i
stick to MBR? Is fdisk
On 17.05.2015 22:48, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 8:36 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
tl;dr ... maybe you listed some reason to stick with mdadm/lvm2/xfs etc
... sorry in that case
I didn't. 2 disks with RAID1/LVM, 2 disks (maybe) with ZFS. Pairs
because by
btrfs... ZFS... dunno... we'll see ;)
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
As you ordered 2 ssds right now this seems a perfect opportunity to
start over and test something new (btrfs is in the linux kernel since
2009).
SSDs? Nope... not yet, maybe
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 8:36 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
tl;dr ... maybe you listed some reason to stick with mdadm/lvm2/xfs etc
... sorry in that case
I didn't. 2 disks with RAID1/LVM, 2 disks (maybe) with ZFS. Pairs
because by board has 2 SATA channels, otherwise i'd go
Hello Gentoo World,
TL;DR warning
I've tested Gentoo and liked it, tried to tune it a bit and borked it. :)
I want to use mdadm to create a RAID1 with 2 SATA disks. From what i
gather, i'll need (bootable) 0xFD partitions, i'll use full disk for
them and no separate /boot (unless required).
Am 2015-05-17 um 18:05 schrieb Peter Humphrey:
Maybe I will. I suspect dodgy disks and I have a pair of new SSDs on the way.
Perhaps it's time for a rethink.
perhaps one more thought to be thought right now:
skip mdadm and lvm ... and try btrfs as you have the chance on shiny new
hardware
On Sunday 17 May 2015 12:48:58 Nuno Magalhães wrote:
I want to use mdadm to create a RAID1 with 2 SATA disks. From what i
gather, i'll need (bootable) 0xFD partitions, i'll use full disk for
them and no separate /boot (unless required). Is GPT required or can i
stick to MBR? Is fdisk safe?
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