On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 07:19:18 +0700
Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
[snip]
Sounds like you need a SAN Storage solution like NetApp or HDS :-)
I have those options too. But the team that runs the SAN charges and
the rates are not cheap.
Yeah, tell me about it.
The day after
On Sep 19, 2011 11:12 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Saturday 17 September 2011 12:34:54 Dale wrote:
Does LVM make the heads move around more or anything like that? I'm
just thinking it would depending on what lv are on what drives. I
dunno, just
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:51:03 +0700
Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
On Sep 19, 2011 11:12 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Saturday 17 September 2011 12:34:54 Dale wrote:
Does LVM make the heads move around more or anything like that?
I'm
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:51:03 +0700
Pandu Poluanpa...@poluan.info wrote:
On Sep 19, 2011 11:12 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Saturday 17 September 2011 12:34:54 Dale wrote:
Does LVM make the heads move around more or anything like that?
on 09/19/2011 11:01 AM Dale wrote the following:
What I was thinking about is this. You have two drives that is one lv.
It has to be data stored on both drives at some point. Example, you
have a data base that is 500Gbs. You have two drives that are 300Gbs
each that are in the same lv.
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 03:01:32 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not sure if LVM by itself implement striping. Most likely not
because LVM usually starts with 1 HD then gets additional PVs
added. Plus there's the possibility that the second PV has a
different size.
I might be
On Monday, September 19, 2011 03:01:32 AM Dale wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:51:03 +0700
Pandu Poluanpa...@poluan.info wrote:
I'm not sure if LVM by itself implement striping. Most likely not
because LVM usually starts with 1 HD then gets additional PVs added.
On Sep 19, 2011 2:29 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:51:03 +0700
Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
I'm not sure if LVM by itself implement striping. Most likely not
because LVM usually starts with 1 HD then gets additional PVs added.
Plus
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:26:16 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote about Re:
[gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.:
[snip]
LVM does do striping according to the man page. I've never tried it,
mostly because LVM is the wrong place to do that IMHO.
Use RAID for that instead and leave LVM
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:54:52 +0700
Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
LVM does do striping according to the man page. I've never tried it,
mostly because LVM is the wrong place to do that IMHO.
Use RAID for that instead and leave LVM to do what it's good at -
managing storage volumes
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:54:52 +0700
Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
LVM does do striping according to the man page. I've never tried it,
mostly because LVM is the wrong place to do that IMHO.
Use RAID
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:55:19 +0200
Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
My personal preference would be option 1 as I agree with Alan that
LVM should stick to managing LVs and leave striping and other options
to RAID- devices/software.
My preference is to get rid of this whole artifical
On Sep 19, 2011 10:05 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:54:52 +0700
Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
LVM does do striping according to the man page. I've never tried it,
mostly because LVM is the wrong place to do that IMHO.
Use RAID for
On Sep 19, 2011 10:07 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
My preference is to get rid of this whole artifical
disk/block-device/partition/pv/vg/lv nonsense and have one layer that
does it all. I really don't see the point in persisting with keeping
knowledge of distinct disks all
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:40:36 +0700
Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
I had high hopes that ZFS would take us to a new place where all
that would be possible.
Sounds like you need a SAN Storage solution like NetApp or HDS :-)
I have those options too. But the team that runs the SAN
On Sep 20, 2011 3:03 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:40:36 +0700
Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
I had high hopes that ZFS would take us to a new place where all
that would be possible.
Sounds like you need a SAN Storage solution like
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 00:49:21 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
A word of advice when starting from scratch, give your VG(s) unique
names. I've seen what happens when someone takes a drive from
one Fedora system and puts it in another, so there are two VGs called
vg01. It ain't nice (only one
On Saturday 17 September 2011 13:44:39 Alan McKinnon wrote:
[GUIDs] are not the best thing to work with admittedly, but they are
guaranteed to be unique for all reasonable human needs. In a world
when we plug things out of anything and plug them back into anything,
a guaranteed unique ID is a
On Saturday 17 September 2011 12:34:54 Dale wrote:
Does LVM make the heads move around more or anything like that? I'm
just thinking it would depending on what lv are on what drives. I
dunno, just curious.
I haven't thought about that, but my first impression is that LVM won't make
any
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 23:02:45 +0100
Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote:
On Saturday 17 September 2011 13:44:39 Alan McKinnon wrote:
[GUIDs] are not the best thing to work with admittedly, but they are
guaranteed to be unique for all reasonable human needs. In a world
when we
Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Saturday 17 September 2011 12:34:54 Dale wrote:
Does LVM make the heads move around more or anything like that? I'm
just thinking it would depending on what lv are on what drives. I
dunno, just curious.
I haven't thought about that, but my first impression is
Dale writes:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:03:20 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
A word of advice when starting from scratch, give your VG(s) unique
names. I've seen what happens when someone takes a drive from
one Fedora system and puts it in another, so there are two VGs
Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Friday 16 September 2011 17:58:11 Dale wrote:
Hmm, maybe I am thinking of ext4? Life's confusing. :/
In case it helps, here's the relevant part of my fstab:
/dev/sda1 /boot ext2 noatime,noauto 1 2
/dev/md3 / ext4 noatime 1 1
/dev/vg1/home /home ext4 noatime 1 2
William Kenworthy wrote:
On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 19:06 -0500, Dale wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
I did name it pretty well. It is called test right now. lol Right
now, I'm just having fun. The biggest difference so far is that I can
see with my new glasses. I just wish I didn't have arthritis in
Dale wrote:
William Kenworthy wrote:
On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 19:06 -0500, Dale wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
I did name it pretty well. It is called test right now. lol Right
now, I'm just having fun. The biggest difference so far is that I
can see with my new glasses. I just wish I didn't have
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 00:49:21 +0100
Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote:
On Friday 16 September 2011 23:13:27 Neil Bothwick wrote:
A word of advice when starting from scratch, give your VG(s) unique
names. I've seen what happens when someone takes a drive from
one Fedora system
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:06:40 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:03:20 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
In case it helps, here's the relevant part of my fstab:
/dev/sda1 /boot ext2noatime,noauto 1 2
/dev/md3
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 06:44:47 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Should I include the drive itself? Like sda, sdb etc. I could use
my system name too. I'm on fireball and my older rig is named
smoker. See a trend here? lol Anyway, this could work:
fireball-sda
fireball-sdb
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:49:02 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
OK. The Chief Idiot is going to experiment some. You ALL know what
this means right? Yep, I'm about to really make a mess of things so
here comes some questions. This is a result of the /usr and udev
crap. So, go to
Alan McKinnon wrote:
The basic idea is you set the boot drive in the bios and which runs grub
from that drive's mbr. When you installed that grub you hard-coded it
to know where to find it's grub.conf.
You can use the existing grub and it's config files just fine. Add a
new entry for your new
On Sep 16, 2011 5:37 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
The basic idea is you set the boot drive in the bios and which runs grub
from that drive's mbr. When you installed that grub you hard-coded it
to know where to find it's grub.conf.
You can use the existing grub
On Friday 16 Sep 2011 11:56:03 Pandu Poluan wrote:
On Sep 16, 2011 5:37 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
The basic idea is you set the boot drive in the bios and which runs grub
from that drive's mbr. When you installed that grub you hard-coded it
to know where to
Mick wrote:
You will need to patch your kernel (in your sdb test OS) and then you
will also need to make a reiser4 fs on your sdb partition(s) (for that
you'll need to emerge sys-fs/reiser4progs). If you want to be able to
mount reiser4 from within your sda OS, you will need of course to
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:47:01 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Mick wrote:
You will need to patch your kernel (in your sdb test OS) and then
you will also need to make a reiser4 fs on your sdb partition(s)
(for that you'll need to emerge sys-fs/reiser4progs). If you want
to be able
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:47:01 -0500
Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Mick wrote:
You will need to patch your kernel (in your sdb test OS) and then
you will also need to make a reiser4 fs on your sdb partition(s)
(for that you'll need to emerge sys-fs/reiser4progs). If you
On Friday, September 16, 2011 11:58:11 AM Dale wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:47:01 -0500
Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Mick wrote:
You will need to patch your kernel (in your sdb test OS) and then
you will also need to make a reiser4 fs on your sdb
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:58:11 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:47:01 -0500
Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Mick wrote:
You will need to patch your kernel (in your sdb test OS) and then
you will also need to make a reiser4 fs on your
On Friday 16 September 2011 17:58:11 Dale wrote:
Hmm, maybe I am thinking of ext4? Life's confusing. :/
In case it helps, here's the relevant part of my fstab:
/dev/sda1 /boot ext2noatime,noauto 1 2
/dev/md3/ ext4noatime1
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:03:20 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
In case it helps, here's the relevant part of my fstab:
/dev/sda1 /boot ext2noatime,noauto 1 2
/dev/md3/ ext4noatime1 1
/dev/vg1/home /home
On Friday 16 September 2011 23:13:27 Neil Bothwick wrote:
A word of advice when starting from scratch, give your VG(s) unique
names. I've seen what happens when someone takes a drive from
one Fedora system and puts it in another, so there are two VGs called
vg01. It ain't nice (only one is
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:03:20 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
In case it helps, here's the relevant part of my fstab:
/dev/sda1 /boot ext2noatime,noauto 1 2
/dev/md3/ ext4noatime1 1
/dev/vg1/home
On Saturday 17 September 2011 01:06:40 Dale wrote:
Still nervous about / on LVM tho. :/
Me too. That's why my / is on /dev/md3, which combines /dev/sd[ab]3 in
RAID-1.
--
Rgds
Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23
In linux.gentoo.user, Dale wrote:
I'm getting this LVM thing down pat tho.
cfdisk to create partitions, if not using the whole drive.
pvcreate
vgcreate
lvcreate
then put on a file system and mount.
Sounds good.
I still get them confused as to what comes first but I got some pictures
On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 19:06 -0500, Dale wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:03:20 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
In case it helps, here's the relevant part of my fstab:
/dev/sda1 /boot ext2noatime,noauto 1 2
/dev/md3/
OK. The Chief Idiot is going to experiment some. You ALL know what
this means right? Yep, I'm about to really make a mess of things so
here comes some questions. This is a result of the /usr and udev crap.
So, go to -dev and blame them, not me. ;-)
OK. I have three drives in my rig.
Dale wrote:
SNIP
What I am reading so far:
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Initramfs
I did a google search and found some others boot this is more Gentoo
oriented. So, anything wrong with this as a guide? Pointers to
others if they are better would be great.
Here starts a learning
On Sep 16, 2011 9:11 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Dale wrote:
SNIP
What I am reading so far:
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Initramfs
I did a google search and found some others boot this is more Gentoo
oriented. So, anything wrong with this as a guide? Pointers to others if
Pandu Poluan wrote:
On Sep 16, 2011 9:11 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com
mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Now usually when I boot into a dual OS, I go to a console and type
in mount and make certain of what drive / is mounted too. Example for
this, if mounted to sda* then it is my main
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