Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-24 Thread covici
be a lot less of an issue if someone just wrote a logind ebuild (wink wink) that provides consolekit like it was originally intended. not possible, logind since systemd = 205 requires systemd and won't work on openrc, upstart, and such as in, the idea of using logind outside of systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] [systemd vs consolekit] packagekit-base

2013-07-26 Thread András Csányi
-3.8. It requires a little job to manage it. The ebuild for packagekit-base has a hard dependency on consolekit, without an option for systemd. This is because the last version of PackageKit in the tree is 0.7.4, which is more than a year older (was released in April 2012). If you use Unity

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [~amd64] Some possibly (?) helpful hints re the big gnome-3.8 update

2013-07-29 Thread Mark Pariente
/systemd-204, since 205 introduced the new cgroups management code (with systemd as the only writer of the cgroups hierarchy), and it seems to cause some minor problems with logind. Other than that, it works withouth a glitch: gnome-base/gnome-3.8.0, sys-apps/systemd-204, no consolekit at all

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-30 Thread Pavel Volkov
with only systemd, with no OpenRC installed. Really? Bug 373219 is still open.

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:34:22 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: Where is this 'INSTALL_MASK' option for opting out of systemd completely documented? man make.conf -- Neil Bothwick If at first you don't succeed, redefine success. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] [~amd64] Some possibly (?) helpful hints re the big gnome-3.8 update

2013-07-31 Thread gottlieb
On Wed, Jul 31 2013, Graham Murray wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com writes: The wiki is wrong. The script /etc/init.d/udev is part of sys-fs/udev, which you need to uninstall before installing systemd. Perhaps it's CONFIG_PROTECT'd, but anyway sys-fs/udev and sys-apps/systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] [~amd64] Some possibly (?) helpful hints re the big gnome-3.8 update

2013-07-31 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 9:28 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Wed, Jul 31 2013, Graham Murray wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com writes: The wiki is wrong. The script /etc/init.d/udev is part of sys-fs/udev, which you need to uninstall before installing systemd. Perhaps it's

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-31 Thread Stroller
On 31 July 2013, at 20:09, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: … if you used systemd, and tried to run /etc/init.d/whatever start, … Nowadays you get the following warning: * You are attempting to run an openrc service on a * system which openrc did not boot. *... So it's pretty harmless. Oh

[gentoo-user] how to tell you are using systemd?

2013-07-31 Thread covici
Can a shell script tell if systemd is the init? I have a couple of places where it would be nice to know this. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov

Re: [gentoo-user] how to tell you are using systemd?

2013-07-31 Thread Wang Xuerui
在 2013-8-1 上午10:26, cov...@ccs.covici.com写道: Can a shell script tell if systemd is the init? I have a couple of places where it would be nice to know this. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Check /proc/1/comm or something like that, IIRC...

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-03 Thread Walter Dnes
developed any features of their own udev, the red-headed stepchild of systemd, hasn't exactly had a lot of new features, either. The following FUD brought to you by Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-August/006066.html Well, we intent

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-05 Thread Samuli Suominen
-systemd systems dropped. Add those two items together, and we get systemd rammed down our throats... http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-August/006066.html (Yes, udev on non-systemd systems is in our eyes a dead end, in case you haven't noticed it yet. I am looking forward

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 19/08/2013 19:03, Yohan Pereira wrote: On 19/08/13 at 09:36pm, William Kenworthy wrote: So why not a profile so those guys who want to play can get a configuration that better suits them? - and vice versa if the whole systemd push dies and Redhat drops it as I doubt anyone else big enough

[gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-26 Thread covici
Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have not been able to find -- one for mailman and one for innd which is a shell script by itself. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
While we are at it ... I am currently migrating one of my basement servers ... it boots and runs with systemd already. I am fiddling with service-files for: mysql mythbackend tftp-hpa (more to come) working my way through ... making arch-linux-files fit etc. If someone already has those

[gentoo-user] digikam + systemd

2013-09-06 Thread Philip Webb
I just did 'emerge -pv digikam' for 3.3.0 it wants to install 54 pkgs, incl systemd ; 10 pkgs are KDE include Marble. Is my surprise justified ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel symbol HOTPLUG

2013-09-12 Thread gottlieb
On Thu, Sep 12 2013, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: The premerge check for systemd complains that CONFIG_HOTPLUG is not set. grep .config does not show CONFIG_HOTPLUG make menuconfig when asked to search for HOTPLUG shows that is has the value HOTPLUG (?). It also asserts that HOTPLUG is selected

[gentoo-user] systemd and kernel symbol HOTPLUG

2013-09-12 Thread gottlieb
The premerge check for systemd complains that CONFIG_HOTPLUG is not set. grep .config does not show CONFIG_HOTPLUG make menuconfig when asked to search for HOTPLUG shows that is has the value HOTPLUG (?). It also asserts that HOTPLUG is selected by a Boolean combination of flags all of which

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and lvm

2013-09-12 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
about the initial problem then? With openrc lvcreate is no problem, with systemd it is ... (for me, on 2 machines). Stefan

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd installation location

2013-09-29 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/29/2013 02:52 PM, William Hubbs wrote: All, I can clarify one part of the systemd issue, because I have been involved in this part of the issue for months. Again, I am not trying to start a dispute here, just providing a clarification

[gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-07 Thread walt
On 09/29/2013 04:58 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: As much as I hate systemd My Alzheimer's prevents me from remembering your reasons for hating systemd. Would you *very* briefly refresh my memory, please?

Re: [gentoo-user] recent trouble with wicd and systemd (non-global ctrl_ifname)

2013-12-12 Thread wraeth
started sometime within the past month. If I have wicd started by systemd, i.e. systemctl enable wicd The wired network is started fine but not the wireless. Instead, I see in the systemd journal wicd[290]: Failed to connect to non-global ctrl_ifname: wired error: No such file

Re: [gentoo-user] cannot boot using systemd and initrd

2014-01-22 Thread covici
Mike Gilbert flop...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 7:38 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am having a problem booting using systemd and an initrd generated by genkernel. I get the message that says (may be slight paraphrase) that /dev/mapper/linux--files-64--root

Re: [gentoo-user] Restart network interface with systemd

2014-01-23 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Mansour Al Akeel mansour.alak...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I installed gnome3 few weeks ago, and had to migrate to systemd. The network init scripts are working fine. But I am not sure how to restart a specific interface. For example in the past I used

Re: [gentoo-user] Restart network interface with systemd

2014-01-23 Thread Mansour Al Akeel
Canek, Thank you. The output is attached. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:10 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Mansour Al Akeel mansour.alak...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I installed gnome3 few weeks ago, and had to migrate to systemd. The network

Re: [gentoo-user] going from systemd to udev

2014-02-04 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 02/04/2014 01:58 PM, Joseph wrote: Is it possible to go from systemd to udev? I don't like the way systemd works. I have a problem with mounting USB sick (it mounts as root:root) and I can not even change the permission. I am receiving Hylafax fax transmission reports (email) on all

Re: [gentoo-user] going from systemd to udev

2014-02-04 Thread Joseph
that it will fix everything, but I have never used Xfce, so I'm not certain. Do I need to put flag: systemd in make.conf file: USE=... to enable it globally? Supposedly, you should enable local flags per package in /etc/portage/package.use, but many does put it on make.conf

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-15 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Feb 15, 2014 11:02 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2014-02-15 10:16 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Hi all, Not to revive a flame-fest against systemd, but... I'm sure some or most of you have already heard about this, but I found a really decent thread

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-15 Thread Mick
On Saturday 15 Feb 2014 17:32:44 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Feb 15, 2014 11:02 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2014-02-15 10:16 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Hi all, Not to revive a flame-fest against systemd, but... I'm sure some or most of you

[gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-18 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 17/02/14, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: It depends; right now you can't switch back and forth between OpenRC and systemd without reemerging some stuff. Interesting. Didn't know that. What packages need to be recompiled? BTW, respect for your patience in this thread! -- Nicolas Sebrecht

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd as a Profile - practical or not?

2014-02-18 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Tuesday 18 February 2014 10:46 PM, Yohan Pereira wrote: Burst out laughing reading this mail after reading this thread and the other systemd one. Anyways you'll find instructions here http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/lists.xml. Don't you like jokers? ;-) No offense, but RTFM!

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-18 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Andrew Savchenko birc...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:22:23 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Yet again, I respect ones right to use whatever one wants, but I ask to respect mine as well. That's why I propose a separate systemd profile for those

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-20 Thread Dale
Mark David Dumlao wrote: If udev wants systemd, and you don't, but you want to continue using udev, it's _your_ job to look for a method or patch or package or script that makes it work. That's already done. It's called eudev. :-D Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: banshee installation without systemd

2014-02-23 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:31 PM, eroen er...@falcon.eroen.eu wrote: On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:02:01 +0100, Fox halfsocial...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, after reading the thread about systemd somebody mentioned sys-fs/eudev. I decided used because I had systemd only to used udev and unmerge systemd

[gentoo-user] Re: banshee installation without systemd

2014-02-23 Thread eroen
On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 19:47:55 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:31 PM, eroen er...@falcon.eroen.eu wrote: On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:02:01 +0100, Fox halfsocial...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, after reading the thread about systemd somebody mentioned sys

Re: [gentoo-user] technical review of systemd

2014-02-25 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
systemd have configurable options for '/' so that it can run readonly rather than dropping to emergency in case of problems? I believe you can run systemd out-of-the-box with / being RO. That's why /run and /run/lock are tmpfs' and they are available basically from the very beginning

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: technical review of systemd

2014-02-25 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Feb 25, 2014 10:40 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 5:38 AM, Nicolas Sebrecht nsebre...@piing.fr wrote: [snip] The way systemd services handle network whatever network manager you enable is the last thing preventing me from using systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
the following: .. new kernel coptions Most of which you have already; beyond that, it's some minor functionality that doesn't stop the switch itself from working afaik. Only needs to be done once, not every time. .. new grub2 command line A new entry with init=/usr/lib/systemd/system suffices

[gentoo-user] converting openrc's dmesg to systemd service file

2014-04-03 Thread Douglas J Hunley
I'm sure this is way more trivial than I'm making it out to be, but how in the world would one converty /etc/init.d/dmesg to a systemd service file? Is there a good online pointer about building service files? -- Douglas J Hunley (doug.hun...@gmail.com) Twitter: @hunleyd

Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-15 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 15.05.2014 22:38, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com: image=/boot/vmlinuz-3.6.2-gentoo phew. 3.6.2 is from October 2012 ... Did you recompile it with the suggested options for systemd? Maybe it doesn't matter, but just a thought ... that kernel is quite old. Stefan

RE: [gentoo-user] Can't Get Systemd to Work

2014-05-16 Thread Hunter Jozwiak
-Original Message- From: Stefan G. Weichinger [mailto:li...@xunil.at] Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 9:40 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Can't Get Systemd to Work Am 16.05.2014 15:33, schrieb Hunter Jozwiak: -Original Message- From: Neil

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: And yes, as devs get lazier (decide to rely on systemd rather than build it to work independently of the init system), this will in fact result in *users* (read: those lacking the skills to code every program out

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: N failed logins since your last login

2014-06-12 Thread Florian HEGRON
#cat /etc/systemd/system/sklogd.service [Unit] Description=The syslogd half of sysklogd [Service] Type=forking EnvironmentFile=/etc/init.d/sysklogd ExecStart=/usr/sbin/syslogd -m 0 [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target Did you play with log-level and log-level ? see http

Re: [gentoo-user] udev upgrade 208 212-r1, openrc USE flag changed to disabled?

2014-06-14 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
flag prio to this change was to pull in udev-init-scripts? See what I mean? How am I supposed to know that? It means that openrc users should strongly consider migrate to eudev. I use eudev since its beta and never had any issue, nor systemd leaking into my system. And in addition add

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ssh rekeying slow ?

2014-06-25 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 26.06.2014 00:20, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: pam_systemd is (or seems to be) the reason, see my other posting. maybe it would be also solved by upgrading to the (in terms of gentoo) unstable version 214 of systemd: # equery b pam_systemd.so * Searching for pam_systemd.so ... sys-apps

[gentoo-user] systemd warning kernel 3.10 required

2014-06-29 Thread covici
What is the significance of the warning when updating to systemd-214 that kernel 3.10 is required? I can't go to that now, what might break? Thanks. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov

Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling for different CPU but same architecture

2014-08-01 Thread wraeth
On Fri, 2014-08-01 at 13:55 +0530, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: I wouldn't have taken interest in that one if I didn't have systemd. I'm using GNOME3 on both my desktop and the laptop, so systemd is a must. Yes, well, I thought it prudent just to make sure ;) -- wraeth wra...@wraeth.id.au

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: On Friday 01 August 2014 10:00:40 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: ... just for completeness, systemd actually requires /etc/mtab as a link to /proc/self/mounts, so don't be surprised if software in the future in Linux

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 01 August 2014 10:29:17 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: On Friday 01 August 2014 10:00:40 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: ... just for completeness, systemd actually requires /etc/mtab as a link to /proc/self

[gentoo-user] sysV/openrc init script vs. systemd .service file

2014-08-11 Thread Grant Edwards
it has worked good enough. It doesn't work great with openrc [e.g. doesn't enable the init script automatically], but people seem to be able to figure it out. Now I've got a customer that runs systemd and reports that the init script doesn't work for some undefined value of doesn't work. I've

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-09-18, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: Mark David Dumlao wrote: The code is out there. Freely available. Both systemd and sysvinit. If you wanted to measure both, you could, literally, in the time it took since you first posted in this thread till now you could have

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gigabyte mobo latency

2014-10-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 12:41 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Even if we all end up migrating to systemd (which from plentiful complaints from many very bright folks about the net and the lack of a clean, useful documentation on systemd, it's likely to be a decade before systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng-3.6.1 nearly no log anymore

2014-11-16 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 04:11:56PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote USE=systemd simply means to enable support for systemd, not that it is running. Generally stuff like this should be a matter of configuration, not build options. Otherwise your life as a Gentoo user would be a living nightmare

Re: [gentoo-user] Does systemd work with mdadm?

2014-11-29 Thread Mark Pariente
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Daniel Frey djqf...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I decided I'm going to try systemd to see what all the hubbub is about. I know there are people on here that use it so I'm hoping someone's can alleviate my concerns on it with mdadm. I use an IMSM container (Intel

[gentoo-user] Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha

2014-11-29 Thread Pandu Poluan
So, I just found out that some Debian Developers decided to fork Debian, because they can no longer stand this abomination called 'systemd': https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20141127.212941.f55acc3a.en.html What do you think, people? Shouldn't we offer them our eudev project to assist

Re: [gentoo-user] Openrc now on Arch LInux

2015-01-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:32 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Anyone tested openrc on Arch linux? I have read in several places that Arch linux has moved to systemd, exclusively? Don't believe everything you read. You'll probably also read that Gentoo doesn't use systemd

[gentoo-user] Re: Openrc now on Arch LInux

2015-01-22 Thread James
Rich Freeman rich0 at gentoo.org writes: Anyone tested openrc on Arch linux? I have read in several places that Arch linux has moved to systemd, exclusively? Don't believe everything you read. You'll probably also read that Gentoo doesn't use systemd. :) https://wiki.archlinux.org

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Get off my lawn?

2015-01-24 Thread Marc Stürmer
Am 22.01.2015 um 19:06 schrieb Tom H: Sure. My point was that anyone can claim that systemd is (un)popular in the embedded space. I don't know if it is popular; in embedded systems though the last thing you need are fast moving targets IMHO, you want to use proven, reliable tools

[gentoo-user] systemd net interfaces always want a default route?

2015-02-13 Thread Adam Carter
It looks like /etc/systemd/system/network@.service requires a gateway= line, however, for a second interface I wont set another default. Is there a standard way to so this, or do i have to copy network@.service to a new name and remove the 'ip route add' line?

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc-systemd command comparison

2015-03-17 Thread Bob Wya
I've not seen any that are OpenRC specific... But this one is pretty decent for SysVInit vs. systemd... http://linoxide.com/linux-command/systemd-vs-sysvinit-cheatsheet/ On 17 March 2015 at 01:58, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Frey djqf

Re: [gentoo-user] installing gentoo with a systemd profile

2015-07-20 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jul 19 2015, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 21:00:54 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I am installing gentoo on a new laptop. I am a gnome, hence systemd, user. I also use lvm (I have / and /usr combined on a non-lvm partition). At the point where you choose a profile

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd very slow to compile?

2015-09-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 13:16:29 +0200, Marc Joliet wrote: > On Friday 11 September 2015 15:08:54 walt wrote: > >My very old and slow ~amd64 machine took 3 hours and 45-minutes to > >compile systemd-226 today. > > Just out of curiosity: exactly how old? My dual-core amd64

Re: [gentoo-user] Safe systemd "reload" command

2016-06-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
t I would still appreciate it if someone with systemd can tell me that it works.

Re: [gentoo-user] Safe systemd "reload" command

2016-06-07 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 12:59 AM, Michael Orlitzky <m...@gentoo.org> wrote: > On 06/06/2016 06:04 PM, Tom H wrote: >> 1) I've never used systemd on Gentoo but I assume that you can >> co-install openrc and systemd. So you'd want to check whether systemd >> is runni

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Change from udev to eudev?

2016-06-13 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, June 13, 2016 02:10:27 PM James wrote: > wabe gmail.com> writes: > Still, if you manage 1000 linux workstations, then systemd does have > it's merits. Serious question: What makes systemd more suitable to manage 1000 linux workstations when compared to, for inst

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Jc García
2016-02-09 11:28 GMT-06:00 Jc García <jyo.gar...@gmail.com>: > 2016-02-09 11:21 GMT-06:00 James <wirel...@tampabay.rr.com>: > >> >> # grep -r systemd /etc/portage > ... >> /etc/portage/package.use/zzz-autounmask:>=sys-fs/udisks-2.1.4 syste

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Jc García
2016-02-09 11:21 GMT-06:00 James <wirel...@tampabay.rr.com>: > > # grep -r systemd /etc/portage ... > /etc/portage/package.use/zzz-autounmask:>=sys-fs/udisks-2.1.4 systemd look at that file and that line why that was activated.

[gentoo-user] Systemd good or bad?

2017-01-08 Thread Dominus Mundi
I read in the history feeds that the universal init system (formerly known as systemd) was controversial when introduced. I would like the opinions of people from your time. -- Securely sent with Tutanota. Claim your encrypted mailbox today! https://tutanota.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage spokes again...

2016-12-20 Thread Philip Webb
161221 Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 05:25:20AM +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote >> sys-apps/systemd:0= required by (sys-apps/dbus-1.10.12:0/0::gentoo, ebuild >> scheduled for merge) >> I have no systemd installed...my Linux is running good ole openrc... >

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage spokes again...

2016-12-21 Thread Matthias Hanft
Corbin Bird wrote: > > The "sys-fs/eudev" package is the Gentoo fork of "sys-fs/udev" for > people who don't want systemd. Ehm... I still use "sys-fs/udev" (not eudev) without systemd. No problems so far. Do I have to worry? -Matt

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage spokes again...

2016-12-21 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Corbin Bird <corbinb...@charter.net> wrote: > > ( PulseAudio is also being merged into systemd. Think about it. ) Unless the systemd developers have decided to stop targeting the non-desktop use-case, this is pure delirium.

Re: [gentoo-user] network interface names in gentoo

2017-06-11 Thread Simon Thelen
On 17-06-11 at 16:33, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > Without tweaking anything in particular (as far as I remember), I get > the "predictable" names. For example, on the desktop box where I'm > writing this, the main interface is enp3s0. > > But, of course, there's no systemd o

[gentoo-user] Re: Why I can't I build systemd without ipv6?

2017-10-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2017-10-13, Daniel Frey <djqf...@gmail.com> wrote: > And is there a way to build systemd without ipv6? Or am I going to have > to revert these three systems back to openrc? ^^ You misspelled "upgrade". ;) -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards

[gentoo-user] Systemd

2017-11-04 Thread siefke_lis...@web.de
Hello, I have a short question to systemd. I would like to ask your experience in the changeover. Was it easy? Were there problems? Change or reinstall? What mean the profis here? Thank you for help and have nice weekend. Silvio pgpPdmay_r_Vp.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-user] start ntpdate after network....

2019-03-10 Thread Tamer Higazi
Hi people, I have my gentoo system running with systemd. I figured out that ntpdate is getting started before network is up. I am not yet very familiar with systemd. Can somebody of you tell me how to fix that, that "ntpdate" is started the moment network devices are up ? for an

[gentoo-user] Re: switch from gnome/systemd to xfce/openrc borked my system - I GIVE UP

2019-08-20 Thread nunojsilva
On 2019-08-20, Raffaele Belardi wrote: > Raffaele Belardi wrote: [...] > - I grub-loaded a different kernel, one built for systemd. It stops in > the exact same place as the openrc-built one. What are the kernel command lines for both kernels? -- Nuno Silva

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd crashes when I try to mount a USB drive

2019-08-01 Thread Jack
On 2019.08.01 09:59, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, since the upgrade from systemd-242-r6 to systemd-243_rc1 I cannot mount my (external) USB drive any more. I get kernel: sd 10:0:0:0: [sde] Assuming drive cache: write through kernel: sde: sde1 sde2 sde3 sde4 sde5 sde6 sde7 kernel: systemd-udevd

[gentoo-user] custom mount fstab

2020-07-03 Thread Tamer Higazi
Hi people, I had a problem with docker on gentoo and found the solution for all my problems with a custom mount command: |sudo mount -t cgroup -o none,name=systemd cgroup /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd Can anybody of you tell me how to add that one in /etc/fstab file ? best, Tamer |

[gentoo-user] Re: Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way.

2020-12-06 Thread Martin Vaeth
Michael wrote: > > Given M.Orlitzky's comments and discussions with systemd devs he shared, > what's the optimal solution for OpenRC users, who want to avoid systemd? Simply stay with opentmpfiles. > Rely on ebuild creators and maintainer checks to guard against these inherent >

[gentoo-user] openrc install possible systemd too complex

2020-11-13 Thread Jude DaShiell
This was even following the steps in that systemd gentoo wiki article. I'm glad I tried it since if I hadn't I'd never know. -- United States has 633 Billionaires with only 10 doing any annual significant giving.

Re: [gentoo-user] network do not come up after booting, only manual reloading (systemd-networkd)

2021-09-06 Thread antlists
On 06/09/2021 20:45, Tamer Higazi wrote: Dear Dr. Valdés, /etc/systemd/network/20-wirded.network: ^ Typo? Unimportant? Significant? Cheers, Wol

Re: [gentoo-user] A couple of problems with systemd

2022-05-27 Thread John Covici
On Fri, 27 May 2022 17:49:24 -0400, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > [1 ] > On Fri, 27 May 2022 17:03:29 -0400, John Covici wrote: > > > I have one service which always times out, but slows down the boot > > process. It is > > /lib/systemd/system/systemd-networkd-wait-onl

[gentoo-user] systemd-boot on openrc

2022-04-17 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list, I've been using bootctl from sys-boot/systemd-boot for several years, with some success, but I'm stuck after today's --sync. First I was told I had to keyword sys-apps/systemd-utils, so I did that, but now I get this, which I can't decode: Calculating dependencies

[gentoo-user] Re: systemd-boot on an openrc system

2022-09-29 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 28/09/2022 15:20, Peter Humphrey wrote: Looking more carefully, I see only one machine has an /etc/machine-info. I'm on systemd (openrc is not installed at all), and I don't have /etc/machine-info. And /etc/kernel/install.d/ is empty.

Re: [gentoo-user] NetworkManager problem after migrating to systemd

2012-10-30 Thread João Matos
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Systemd#PAM_support:_su.2C_sudo.2C_screen. .. . Now everything is fine :) About the packages you mentioned, you've ran 'equery uses pambase polkit udisks upower', and none of them has the userflag systemd. # equery uses pambase polkit udisks upower

Re: [gentoo-user] NetworkManager problem after migrating to systemd

2012-10-30 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
...@gmail.com wrote: I found the solution a few hours ago here http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Systemd#PAM_support:_su.2C_sudo.2C_screen... . Now everything is fine :) About the packages you mentioned, you've ran 'equery uses pambase polkit udisks upower', and none of them

Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about systemd logging

2013-01-09 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
mean by main console? tty1? tty12? /dev/console? All I can see is a few kernel messages which cease after the lvm service completes. There are no service starting messages and no login prompt appears. The other ttys have a banner and prompt as usual. systemd by default only spawns 1 (one) tty

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd-197-r1 starts gdm-3.6.2

2013-01-30 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 30.01.2013 18:36, schrieb Hinnerk van Bruinehsen: I've just installed systemd on one of my systems to give it a test and I had similar problems due to the systemd useflag on policykit being hardmasked (it also

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd-197-r1 starts gdm-3.6.2

2013-01-31 Thread Alecks Gates
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Alecks Gates aleck...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: [snip] I switched to systemd not too long ago and I have the same

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-31 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2013-07-31 11:20 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: If you don't use the systemd USE flag (and never install anything that depends on systemd), you will not get systemd installed, but many packages

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-08-01 Thread covici
) From sys-fs/eudev/eudev-1_beta4-r1.ebuild = PDEPEND==virtual/udev-180 openrc? ( =sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-18 ) udev/eudev are special cases: the first is systemd with systemd removed at make install time; the second is a fork of systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-17 Thread Daniel Campbell
), but this comment from HaakonKL probably sums it up: ... I will give Upstart this though: Should something better come along, you could replace upstart. I guess this holds true for OpenRC as well. You can't say that about systemd. I had read that blog entry before. Is full of errors, like

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-22 Thread Andrew Savchenko
development teams and even more users that don't get the most basic bugs fixed. Quantity is not equivalent to Quality. I also agree with that. My point is that the systemd project has enough numbers of *talented* developers to do it. You can disagree, of course. Talented developer

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-03 Thread Dutch Ingraham
On 06/03/2014 07:24 PM, Jim Burwell wrote: FWIW, on my system, I had to mask sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration for it to merge the udev update w/o trying to pull in systemd, et al. i didn't deep dive on what was trying to pull that in, but masking it (plus a ton of other stuff I have

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-power/upower with systemd

2014-06-25 Thread gottlieb
On Tue, Jun 24 2014, Marc Joliet wrote: Am Mon, 23 Jun 2014 20:39:13 -0400 schrieb gottl...@nyu.edu: I think I had first misinterpreted the news msg, but want to be sure I do understand it correctly now. The message ends with All non-systemd users are recommended to choose between

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
in this thread that's imposing on everyone to produce anything. You're the only one in this thread that SHOULD be producing anything. That's how open source works and that's how it's supposed to work. We're not your unpaid researchers. I'm sorry, Volker pointed out that the pro systemd folks came

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Root can't write to files owned by others?

2022-03-10 Thread Grant Taylor
On 3/9/22 11:50 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: This is normal, at least when using systemd. How is this a /systemd/ thing? Is it because systemd is enabling a /kernel/ thing that probably is otherwise un(der)used? I ask as someone who disliked systemd as many others do. But I fail to see

Re: [gentoo-user] OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-16 Thread Wols Lists
On 16/10/2023 08:51, Dale wrote: Anyone here have ideas?  Keep in mind, that thing uses systemd.  I thought I hated that before.  I truly hate that thing now.  Trying to figure out how to restart something is like pulling teeth with no pain meds. systemctl restart servicename? I like

Re: [gentoo-user] A couple of problems with systemd

2022-05-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 27 May 2022 17:03:29 -0400, John Covici wrote: > I have one service which always times out, but slows down the boot > process. It is > /lib/systemd/system/systemd-networkd-wait-online.service. Because > many jobs wait in queue for a while, till this fails. Are you u

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-boot on openrc

2022-04-17 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 17 April 2022 17:05:18 -00 Martin Vaeth wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 16:42:35 -00 Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 14:54:50 -00 Rich Freeman wrote: > >> >> Can't y

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