On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 20:25:22 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
I'm lucky, I can vote with my feet. Out of 140, I have two servers
that *require* Linux. One runs Sybase ASE, the other runs Oracle.
Everything else works like a bomb on FreeBSD. kthankxbyeudev,
On 2011-09-10 03:49, Dale wrote:
If I recall correctly, Gentoo is sort of based on BSD. I don't think
using their target would solve the problem with udev tho.
FreeBSD uses Ports which Portage is based on, AIUI. The FreeBSD kernel
doesn't use udev. They do have a similar thing though called
On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 20:58:23 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Michael Mol wrote:
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
I may go the BSD route too if I leave Gentoo. So, my feet works
too. I wonder if I would even be missed here? :/
I'd hate it if you
On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:23:42 -0400
Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
Am Freitag, 9. September 2011, 19:24:06 schrieb pk:
On 2011-09-09 10:53, Dale wrote:
Can I slap whoever started
Alan McKinnon wrote:
You give me too much credit :-)
There's also Neil, Wonko, Volker, Stroller, Grant, meino.cramer, Mick,
Paul, Harry, Albert, Alex, Walter, Alan Mackenzie (awesome name!),
James, kashani, Pandu and about a 1000 more whose names I can't exactly
recall right now.
This here
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 20:25:22 -0500
Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
I'm lucky, I can vote with my feet. Out of 140, I have two servers
that *require* Linux. One runs Sybase ASE, the other runs Oracle.
Everything else works like a bomb on FreeBSD.
On Friday 09 Sep 2011 14:31:23 BRM wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless Configuration...
OK, so if you restore the two lines and this error goes away, can you
then initialise the device without any other errors?
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 02:54:58 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
That is true. There are lots who post a lot here. I just recall
seeing some stats somewhere and me and you were the top two. That
was about a year ago so it may have changed. Just had to go find
that link again. Here it
On Saturday 10 Sep 2011 08:36:59 Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:23:42 -0400
Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
Am Freitag, 9. September 2011, 19:24:06 schrieb pk:
On
Dale writes:
I know one thing, BSD is secure as heck. I installed it once on a old
rig and typed the password in wrong during setup. I never could get
into that thing again. I had to start over.
That's what you thought :) Normally, all you have to do is to boot in
single user mode, this
Dale writes:
pk wrote:
On 2011-09-09 13:35, Alex Schuster wrote:
When I switched to using an initramfs, it was not very complicated. I
simply use genkernel. With CLEAN=no and MRPROPER=no, it uses my
/usr/src/linux/.config and does not change the kernel options. Then
comes genkernel
FWIW, it seems to work with cups with the following configuration in
/etc/cups/printers.conf
(I just let the printer acquire an IP from the dhcpd server on the lan,
and let cupsd discover the new printer,
and tried gutenprint-ijs-simplified.5.2 as the driver for it from
package
My update world today produced
[nomerge ] dev-java/icedtea-6.1.10.3 USE=hs20 nsplugin nss webstart
xrender -cacao -debug -doc -examples -jamvm -javascript -nio2 -pulseaudio
-systemtap -zero
[nomerge ] dev-java/ant-nodeps-1.8.1
[ebuild NS] virtual/jre-1.7.0 [1.6.0] 0
Allan Gottlieb writes:
My update world today produced
[nomerge ] dev-java/icedtea-6.1.10.3 USE=hs20 nsplugin nss
webstart xrender -cacao -debug -doc -examples -jamvm -javascript -nio2
-pulseaudio -systemtap -zero [nomerge ]
dev-java/ant-nodeps-1.8.1 [ebuild NS]
Hi,
Allan Gottlieb wrote:
My update world today produced
[nomerge ] dev-java/icedtea-6.1.10.3 USE=hs20 nsplugin nss webstart
xrender -cacao -debug -doc -examples -jamvm -javascript -nio2 -pulseaudio -systemtap
-zero
[nomerge ] dev-java/ant-nodeps-1.8.1
[ebuild NS]
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 10:38:48 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
My update world today produced
[nomerge ] dev-java/icedtea-6.1.10.3 USE=hs20 nsplugin nss
webstart xrender -cacao -debug -doc -examples -jamvm -javascript -nio2
-pulseaudio -systemtap -zero [nomerge ]
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 02:54:58 -0500
Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
That is true. There are lots who post a lot here. I just recall
seeing some stats somewhere and me and you were the top two. That
was about a year ago so it may have changed. Just had to go find
that
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 16:50:30 Alex Schuster wrote:
Allan Gottlieb writes:
My update world today produced
[nomerge ] dev-java/icedtea-6.1.10.3 USE=hs20 nsplugin nss
webstart xrender -cacao -debug -doc -examples -jamvm -javascript -nio2
-pulseaudio -systemtap -zero
On Sat, Sep 10 2011, Alex Schuster wrote:
Allan Gottlieb writes:
My update world today produced
So I need the Oracle-BCLA-JavaSE license. But I don't see where it
tells me how to do this. Previous license requests said something like
* go to URL xxx
* click on YYY
* store it in
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:59:20 +0200
Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote:
(As an aside I had thought idedtea replaced the need for oracle/sun
's jdk. I do have installed sun/oracle 's java-sdk-docs.)
That's true. You can unmerge the sun-jdk and emerge icedtea instead.
In my
Michael Schreckenbauer writes:
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 16:50:30 Alex Schuster wrote:
What you need to do is to tell portage you accept the license by
putting the =dev-java/... line into /etc/portage/package.license. Or
you could add the --autounmask-write switch to your emerge
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 11:13:29 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
Why do I need this sun/oracle jdk when I already have
icedtea installed? Indeed, the next step in my normal procedure is
to run emerge --depclean --ask, which then wanted to remove the just
installed package. I will report this
My daily update world caused the merging of oracle-jdk-bin-1.7.0
(after wonko explained how to handle a license question).
But my next step is emerge --depclean --ask
This wanted to unmerge the above package and, if permitted to
do so, caused a subsequent update word to remerge it.
I then wisely
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 11:28:07 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
My daily update world caused the merging of oracle-jdk-bin-1.7.0
(after wonko explained how to handle a license question).
But my next step is emerge --depclean --ask
This wanted to unmerge the above package and, if permitted to
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 17:19:36 Alex Schuster wrote:
Michael Schreckenbauer writes:
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 16:50:30 Alex Schuster wrote:
What you need to do is to tell portage you accept the license by
putting the =dev-java/... line into /etc/portage/package.license.
On Sep 10, 2011 10:06 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 02:54:58 -0500
Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
That is true. There are lots who post a lot here. I just recall
seeing some stats somewhere and me and you were the top two. That
was
Alex Schuster wrote:
Dale writes:
pk wrote:
On 2011-09-09 13:35, Alex Schuster wrote:
When I switched to using an initramfs, it was not very complicated. I
simply use genkernel. With CLEAN=no and MRPROPER=no, it uses my
/usr/src/linux/.config and does not change the kernel options. Then
Michael Schreckenbauer writes:
Thanks. The difference is, that package.license is per package.
So one could set ACCEPT_LICENSE in make.conf and override this setting
for some packages in package.license.
Now I wonder, what the use-cases would be?
Why would one accept a specific license for
On Sat, Sep 10 2011, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 11:28:07 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
My daily update world caused the merging of oracle-jdk-bin-1.7.0
(after wonko explained how to handle a license question).
But my next step is emerge --depclean --ask
This
Mick wrote:
I've flirted with Slackware before I came over to Gentoo and the
reason I chose Gentoo is because it gave me more freedom to built and
configure an OS exactly as I wanted it. I was at the time thinking of
trying BSD with portage, but when I was keeping an eye on it there was
this
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Mick wrote:
From my understanding, the dev is not listening. That is another thing that
bothers me. When devs stop listening to users, that causes a problem.
Remember hal? How many people complained early on about the
Dale writes:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 02:54:58 -0500
Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
That is true. There are lots who post a lot here. I just recall
seeing some stats somewhere and me and you were the top two. That
was about a year ago so it may have changed.
On Sep 10, 2011 11:22 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
As I understand it, nothing of udev itself is in /usr, but instead
packages and scripts which plug themselves into udev to be triggered
by various events.
Perhaps the real solution is to circumvent udev and get those other
Michael Mol wrote:
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Mick wrote:
From my understanding, the dev is not listening. That is another thing that
bothers me. When devs stop listening to users, that causes a problem.
Remember hal? How many people complained
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
On Sep 10, 2011 11:22 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
As I understand it, nothing of udev itself is in /usr, but instead
packages and scripts which plug themselves into udev to be triggered
by various events.
On 09/08/2011 05:51 PM, Grant wrote:
I just noticed this at the end of my openssl emerge:
* Running 'c_rehash /etc/ssl/certs/' to rebuild hashes #333069 ...
WARNING: Skipping duplicate file cert_igca_rsa.pem [ ok ]
dev-libs/openssl-1.0.0e merged.
Since SSL is so critical I thought I
I just noticed this at the end of my openssl emerge:
* Running 'c_rehash /etc/ssl/certs/' to rebuild hashes #333069 ...
WARNING: Skipping duplicate file cert_igca_rsa.pem [ ok ]
dev-libs/openssl-1.0.0e merged.
Since SSL is so critical I thought I should run it by you guys. Is
this
On Sat, 2011-09-10 at 02:54 -0500, Dale wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
You give me too much credit :-)
There's also Neil, Wonko, Volker, Stroller, Grant, meino.cramer, Mick,
Paul, Harry, Albert, Alex, Walter, Alan Mackenzie (awesome name!),
James, kashani, Pandu and about a 1000 more whose
On Sun, 2011-09-11 at 01:33 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
On Sat, 2011-09-10 at 02:54 -0500, Dale wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
You give me too much credit :-)
There's also Neil, Wonko, Volker, Stroller, Grant, meino.cramer, Mick,
Paul, Harry, Albert, Alex, Walter, Alan Mackenzie
William Kenworthy wrote:
Actually, thats a bit optimistic - 2002
moriah ~ # ls -alth /var/backups/rattus/20110710/tree/etc/
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 104 Sep 6 2003 hsf
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root80 May 13 2003 sysconfig
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root72 Jan
Hi All,
I have managed to delete /var/db. I know this was a very stupid thing to be
done, but now it is done and /var/db is gone for good.
Well, that is a good opportunity to have everything built again, time to try
new CFLAGS, and so on.
But there is a circular dependency that I do not know
Hi,
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 16:41:39 Francisco Ares wrote:
Hi All,
I have managed to delete /var/db. I know this was a very stupid thing to be
done, but now it is done and /var/db is gone for good.
*bummer*
Well, that is a good opportunity to have everything built again, time to
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.dewrote:
Hi,
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 16:41:39 Francisco Ares wrote:
Hi All,
I have managed to delete /var/db. I know this was a very stupid thing to
be
done, but now it is done and /var/db is gone for good.
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:41:39 -0300
Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
I have managed to delete /var/db. I know this was a very stupid thing
to be done, but now it is done and /var/db is gone for good.
Well, that is a good opportunity to have everything built again, time
to
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.dewrote:
Hi,
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 16:41:39 Francisco Ares wrote:
Hi All,
I have managed to delete /var/db. I know this was a very
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:41:39 -0300
Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
I have managed to delete /var/db. I know this was a very stupid thing
to be done, but now it is done and /var/db is gone for
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 17:29:21 Francisco Ares wrote:
Well, --nodeps did no work, as portage claims that it is incompatible with
--emptytree , that it is forcing as there is no more /var/db
Ok. Did not know, that portage forces emptytree in this situation.
I have also tried to
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:34:51 +0200
Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote:
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 17:19:36 Alex Schuster wrote:
Michael Schreckenbauer writes:
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 16:50:30 Alex Schuster wrote:
What you need to do is to tell portage you accept
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 18:34:42 +0200
Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote:
Me either. That's when I had to accept that I was a true chatter
box. O_O I wonder if Neil knows this? He may not realize how many
he sends either.
Since I am on this list, I tend to confuse Alan and Neil.
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 12:19:10 -0400
Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Mick wrote:
From my understanding, the dev is not listening. That is another
thing that bothers me. When devs stop listening to users, that
causes
Alan McKinnon wrote:
Since I am on this list, I tend to confuse Alan and Neil. Is this only
me? girlfriend says that Alan and Neil are both male bald middle-aged
pedantic old gits with a fascination for the writing of Douglas Adams.
And they are both grammar Nazis. She is not in the least
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 23:15:19 Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:34:51 +0200
Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote:
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 17:19:36 Alex Schuster wrote:
Michael Schreckenbauer writes:
On Saturday, 10. September 2011 16:50:30 Alex
=== On Fri, 09/09, Alex Schuster wrote: ===
What I fear much more is when good old grub is no longer supported
and I have to use grub2, which I tried to understand, but failed.
===
Ya, it's horrid. But the {sys,ext}linux bootloader is still there and
maintained and I like it better. I use
Alan McKinnon writes:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 18:34:42 +0200
Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote:
Since I am on this list, I tend to confuse Alan and Neil. Is this
only me?
At least I know by now that you are the South Africa guy.
Alan's girlfriend says that Alan and Neil are both male
Francisco Ares writes:
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:41:39 -0300
Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com wrote:
I have managed to delete /var/db. I know this was a very stupid
thing to be done, but now it is done and
Keith Dart writes:
=== On Fri, 09/09, Alex Schuster wrote: ===
What I fear much more is when good old grub is no longer supported
and I have to use grub2, which I tried to understand, but failed.
Ya, it's horrid. But the {sys,ext}linux bootloader is still there and
maintained and I like
On 09/10/2011 10:31 AM, Grant wrote:
I just noticed this at the end of my openssl emerge:
* Running 'c_rehash /etc/ssl/certs/' to rebuild hashes #333069 ...
WARNING: Skipping duplicate file cert_igca_rsa.pem [ ok ]
dev-libs/openssl-1.0.0e merged.
Since SSL is so critical I thought I should
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote:
Francisco Ares writes:
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:41:39 -0300
Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com wrote:
I have managed to delete
=== On Sun, 09/11, Alex Schuster wrote: ===
Interesting. What are the advantages?
Mainly that it's simpler, as a bootloader should be. However it does
have some nice features, such as making nice looking, interactive
menus. You can also edit the config file by hand, if you need to, and
it's all
I converted two machines from icedtea (java6) to oracle-jdk-bin
(java7).
I did in effect
emerge --depclean icedtea icedtea-web =virtual/jdk-1.6.0 =virtual/jdk-1.6.0
On one machine portage now claims that I basically don't need java (see
the output of --depclean below). Can this be right?
On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 07:24:06 PM pk wrote:
On 2011-09-09 10:53, Dale wrote:
Can I slap whoever started this? The more I think on this, the worse it
Yes Dale, you have my permission! And while you're at it, slap him from
me too! ;-)
It _may_ be this guy that's responsible for this crap:
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