On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 11:49 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 11:13 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
I am trying to get my system(s) ready for the new (read crappy) way
mandated by udev and am having some issues.
I usually manually compile my kernels, use tuxonice and
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:20 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote:
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 11:49 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 11:13 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
I am trying to get my system(s) ready for the new (read crappy) way
mandated by udev and am
Am 13.03.2012 23:17, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 23:13:33 +0100
Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
Anyone else seeing this?
No bugreport yet, and I rebuilt and revdeped
Stefan
I'm thinking you hit send before typing up the bit where you say what
the issue
The 13/03/12, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote:
So, what qualifies for the moment a fringe program reaches critical mass
to become maistream, the probability of it needing udev (directly or
indirectly) will increase.
Again, quoting _your_ definition.
I gave you examples of programs which have
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 00:26 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:20 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au
wrote:
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 11:49 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 11:13 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
I am trying to get my
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 23:43:54 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
udev is not a device node system, it is a device manager. Requiring
drivers to handle it gets us into the same mess as Windows, where each
driver has to implement the same functionality itself. If a new modem
is released with a
V Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:24:47 -0500
Michael Sullivan msulli1...@gmail.com napsáno:
I feel really stupid asking this, but I want to use an HDMI component
to output one of my PCs to the TV set. I've followed all of the wiki
entry at http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/DisplayLink, but there's
something
On Tue, March 13, 2012 9:45 pm, Walter Dnes wrote:
I've also found one
situation where I need to take one extra step to run without udev. I
have a laptop with a Radeon GPU that requires a binary blob for the
video driver. emerging radeon-ucode downloads a whole slew of binary
blobs, to
On 03/14/2012 04:49 AM, William Kenworthy wrote:
According to the docs I have found you need to patch genkernel to
run /sbin/resume - it was a longstanding argument between two now
retired devs with the result that genkernel wont (ever) support
hibernation. I dont know from reading the bugs
Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org schrieb am [Di, 13.03.2012 20:32]:
Please report this as a bug on https://bugs.gentoo.org/ .
You could give libgcrypt 1.5.0-r2 a try. Please add to the bug report,
if the problem persists with libgcrypt 1.5.0-r2 or not.
Thanks!
I solved the problem with
Walter Dnes wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 06:22:39PM -0500, Dale wrote
I think mdev has shown it can be fixed. Given time, it just may replace
udev then the udev dev can screw up his own stuff on not bother other
distros. I'm giving mdev some thought here. I want /usr on LVM which
means
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 14:27 +0100, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
On 03/14/2012 04:49 AM, William Kenworthy wrote:
According to the docs I have found you need to patch genkernel to
run /sbin/resume - it was a longstanding argument between two now
retired devs with the result that genkernel wont
Hi, Walter.
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 04:09:46AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 06:22:39PM -0500, Dale wrote
I think mdev has shown it can be fixed. Given time, it just may replace
udev then the udev dev can screw up his own stuff on not bother other
distros. I'm giving
On Mar 14, 2012 9:45 PM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
Hi, Walter.
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 04:09:46AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 06:22:39PM -0500, Dale wrote
I think mdev has shown it can be fixed. Given time, it just may
replace
udev then the udev dev can
Hello, Canek
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 06:07:32PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
The new hardware will just work if there are the correct drivers
built in. That's as true of udev as it is of mdev as it is of the old
static
On 2012-03-13 8:07 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
You want it simple? Tha'ts fine, it is possible. It's just that it
will not solve the general problem, just a very specific subset of it.
Just as mdev is doing; Walt just posted an email explaining that if
you use GNOME, KDE,
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 2012-03-13 8:07 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
You want it simple? Tha'ts fine, it is possible. It's just that it
will not solve the general problem, just a very specific subset of it.
Just as
On Mar 14, 2012 10:30 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org
wrote:
On 2012-03-13 8:07 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
You want it simple? Tha'ts fine, it is possible. It's just that it
will not solve
On Mar 14, 2012 10:20 PM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
8 snippage
Walter is, I believe, mistaken here. I can mount and use my LVM2
partitions. Gnome looks like it comes up OK, but that could be moot,
since right now I haven't got keyboard/mouse drivers under the X server.
This
From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:14 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:54:58 +0700
Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
The idea of
On Mar 14, 2012 11:19 PM, Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org wrote:
From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:14 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:28 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote:
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 14:27 +0100, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
On 03/14/2012 04:49 AM, William Kenworthy wrote:
According to the docs I have found you need to patch genkernel to
run /sbin/resume - it was a longstanding
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
Hello, Canek
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 06:07:32PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
The new hardware will just work if there are the correct drivers
built in.
On 13 March 2012, at 22:20, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
…
udev does a *lot* more than that, for example the persistent naming of
network interfaces. More significantly, it can run programs based on
device rules.
This is where I start getting unhappy. Is there any need for this
blurring?
On Mar 15, 2012 12:25 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
8 snip
That if I connect a USB wi-fi dongle, and it appears with the name
wlan23, I want *every* time that dongle to have the wlan23 name .Good
luck doing that without a database.
That could -- should -- be handled
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
Hello, Canek
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 06:07:32PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
On Mar 15, 2012 12:25 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
8 snip
That if I connect a USB wi-fi dongle, and it appears with the name
wlan23, I want *every* time that dongle to have the wlan23 name
Hi,
my question might seem silly, but I have reason for it:
I have heard there is way to auto-reboot linux after kernel
panic using kernel.panic=time in /etc/sysctl.conf.
This might come handy as my server is far from me and I do
not have any remote console. But I would like to test it
and see
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
my question might seem silly, but I have reason for it:
I have heard there is way to auto-reboot linux after kernel
panic using kernel.panic=time in /etc/sysctl.conf.
This might come handy as my server is far from me and
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
Hello, Canek
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 06:07:32PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés
On 03/14/12 14:23, Jarry wrote:
Hi,
my question might seem silly, but I have reason for it:
I have heard there is way to auto-reboot linux after kernel
panic using kernel.panic=time in /etc/sysctl.conf.
This might come handy as my server is far from me and I do
not have any remote
On Mar 15, 2012 1:22 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
On Mar 15, 2012 12:25 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com
wrote:
8 snip
That if I connect a USB wi-fi dongle, and it appears with
On Mar 15, 2012 2:24 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
Here's a prototype script to ensure that certain NICs will always end up
the way you want it named:
#!/bin/sh
mac=$( cat /proc/net/arp | awk -V dev=$MDEV 'NR==1{next} $6==dev {print
$4}')
name=$(cat /etc/nic.conf | awk -V mac=$mac
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
On Mar 15, 2012 1:22 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
On Mar 15, 2012 12:25 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
[ huge snip ]
Each time, you've acted as though the new stance is what you've been
arguing from all along, but because you haven't communicated that,
it's impossible to reasonably discuss specifics in practicality. I
think
Good evening, Stroller.
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 05:56:34PM +, Stroller wrote:
On 13 March 2012, at 22:20, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
…
udev does a *lot* more than that, for example the persistent naming of
network interfaces. More significantly, it can run programs based on
device
On 2012-03-14 19:45, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
BIOS is going the way of the dodo too, but that's besides the point.
I'm actually quite happy with the Linux bluetooth stack (which, if I'm
not mistaken, is used by Android). I have several bluetooth thingies,
they all work great.
Sorry, but
From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:04 PM
Huh? What's that to do with udev? You're talking at far too high a level
of
abstraction. The new hardware will just work if there are the correct
drivers built in. That's as true of udev as it is of mdev as
Hi, Gentoo.
As I've said a few times in the current threads, the only thing
preventing me from moving fully onto mdev is not having a working
keyboard and mouse (evdev??) under X.
Has anybody else tried this, and if so, what results have you had?
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
From: Pandu Poluan [mailto:pa...@poluan.info]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:13 PM
BUT, in the same message, it is stated that Xorg *can* be compiled to *not*
try to communicate with udev.
I suspect a similar situation with Gnome.
IIRC, GNOME only needs udev for auto-mount support. gvfs
From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:21 AM
As I've said a few times in the current threads, the only thing preventing
me
from moving fully onto mdev is not having a working keyboard and mouse
(evdev??) under X.
Has anybody else tried this, and if
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 02:15:52PM +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote
Wouldn't a good solution be to have the ebuild modified to only
install those binary blobs you actually need? Eg. similar to how
apache or sane modules are configured?
The tarball on the AMD website has all the binary blobs
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 03:16:20PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote
There's a difference between needed by portage and doesn't work under
mdev. As I say, it will all be moot if the evdev driver won't work
under mdev.
I don't have x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev installed and my desktops
work fine.
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 02:15:52PM +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote
Wouldn't a good solution be to have the ebuild modified to only
install those binary blobs you actually need? Eg. similar to how
apache or sane modules are
From: Pandu Poluan [mailto:pa...@poluan.info]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:28 PM
This email [1] (and the correction email right afterwards) should give some
much-needed perspective on
why we're driving full-speed toward an overturned manure truck (which some of
us, e.g., Walter and
On 2012-03-14 20:45, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
Actually, a Lego brick is a good analogy for mdev (in its current
state). It's a beautiful toy; but again, nobody has pointed out how to
make it work with bluetooth devices, for example. From Walt's mail
(his words, not mine):
You're completely
On Monday 12 Mar 2012 18:34:37 Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2012-03-12, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
On 12 March 2012, at 14:59, fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 02:22:34PM +0100, Andr??s Cs??nyi wrote:
On 11 March 2012 13:49, Stroller
On 15/03/2012, at 0:54, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:28 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote:
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 14:27 +0100, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
On 03/14/2012 04:49 AM, William Kenworthy wrote:
According to the docs I have found
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 04:09:33PM -0600, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote
You could use an use-expand variable, like INPUT_DEVICES or
VIDEO_CARDS for xorg-drivers, or DRACUT_MODULES for dracut. It sounds
like the smart thing to do.
The VIDEO_CARDS variable might be RADEON, but there are many
On Mar 15, 2012 7:04 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 04:09:33PM -0600, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote
You could use an use-expand variable, like INPUT_DEVICES or
VIDEO_CARDS for xorg-drivers, or DRACUT_MODULES for dracut. It sounds
like the smart thing to
On Mar 15, 2012 3:52 AM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
Hi, Gentoo.
As I've said a few times in the current threads, the only thing
preventing me from moving fully onto mdev is not having a working
keyboard and mouse (evdev??) under X.
Has anybody else tried this, and if so, what
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 04:09:33PM -0600, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote
You could use an use-expand variable, like INPUT_DEVICES or
VIDEO_CARDS for xorg-drivers, or DRACUT_MODULES for dracut. It sounds
like the smart
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 05:56:34PM +, Stroller wrote
I'm assuming, then, that you're happy opening a terminal and typing
`mkdir /mnt/diskname` and mounting the device every time you plug a
new disk in? Wouldn't it just be nice to plug in your USB devices -
hard-drives and flash drives -
This reference I found:
http://docs.blackfin.uclinux.org/doku.php?id=uclinux-dist:mdev
Can someone look into it? It seems that uclinux defaults to using mdev
instead of udev, and the page provides interesting ... things we can try,
e.g., mdev -s, plug/unplug helper script, etc.
Rgds,
Hello,
my neighbor gave me the notebook. First, I installed Sabayon, as a test.
Now i has installed direct Gentoo and the Xorg.Server. When i run Xorg
-configure and test the config i become error messages.
No Screen found and No devices detected. On the system run a gen Kernel,
because i not
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 06:15:03PM -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote
Every machine I run Linux on is a huge desktop system running behemoth
software (Eclipse, GNOME, Chromium, LibreOffice, etc.).
I have Abiword, Gimp, Gnumeric, Firefox, etc, running just fine, thank
you, on ICEWM.
He seems to be
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 03:20:48PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote
Hi, Gentoo.
As I've said a few times in the current threads, the only thing
preventing me from moving fully onto mdev is not having a working
keyboard and mouse (evdev??) under X.
Has anybody else tried this, and if so, what
On Mar 15, 2012 8:19 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 03:20:48PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote
Hi, Gentoo.
As I've said a few times in the current threads, the only thing
preventing me from moving fully onto mdev is not having a working
keyboard and
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:43 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote:
I am trying to get my system(s) ready for the new (read crappy) way
mandated by udev and am having some issues.
I usually manually compile my kernels, use tuxonice and dont use an
initrd/initramfs.
As ToI is not
Walter Dnes wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 06:15:03PM -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote
Every machine I run Linux on is a huge desktop system running behemoth
software (Eclipse, GNOME, Chromium, LibreOffice, etc.).
I have Abiword, Gimp, Gnumeric, Firefox, etc, running just fine, thank
you, on
Hi, Gentoo.
Yes, I've got Gnome going under mdev. Thanks to Mike Edenfield for the
tip about needing to configure things in xorg.conf.
Here's how I did it:
(i) Rebuild xorg-server without udev.
* Insert this line into /etc/package.use:
x11-base/xorg-server -udev
* build the
On Mar 15, 2012 11:22 AM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
Hi, Gentoo.
Yes, I've got Gnome going under mdev. Thanks to Mike Edenfield for the
tip about needing to configure things in xorg.conf.
Here's how I did it:
(i) Rebuild xorg-server without udev.
* Insert this line into
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