Re: Java resources

2002-03-28 Thread plussier
In a message dated: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 17:58:11 EST Tom Rauschenbach said: I find this comment to be weird, because you can do OO development in either C++ or Java (C too, if you are careful). I meant that if I was looking to learn an OO language to write OO software I would choose C++.

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-28 Thread plussier
In a message dated: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 18:32:15 EST Kurth Bemis said: At 03:33 PM 3/27/2002 -0500, mike ledoux wrote: now with RAID lets say that I have a 3 disk array. one disk blows up on Sunday morning. What happens to data that it supposed to be written that disk? I can't imagine that

Re: RH7.2 install

2002-03-28 Thread plussier
I currently have two RH 7.2 systems that boot into a GUI. Once I get throught the initial install, I boot CLI, tweak my settings, change inittab to boot GUI and I have no problems. The interesting thing is that inittab *is* tweaked. Everything seems to be as it should for booting right into

Flashing Linksys routers from Linux

2002-03-28 Thread Jerry Feldman
Has anyone had any success flashing updates to the Linksys routers from Linux. I tried using tftp, but I was not able to find a way to get it to accept a password. I did try a couple of different ways. -- Jerry Feldman Portfolio Partner Engineering 508-467-4315

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-28 Thread Benjamin Scott
On 27 Mar 2002, at 11:26pm, Rich Cloutier wrote: ... an electronic device ... either works or it doesn't. That is incorrect. It is quite possible to have solid-state components which are marginal. Such components may have intermittent problems, or may simply fail early. I have certainly

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-28 Thread plussier
In a message dated: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:34:25 EST Benjamin Scott said: Sure, a used controller from Joe's House of RAID Cards might have been treated well and work just fine. But it is equally possible that it was thrown into a cardboard box with 38 other cards and shuffled around between

Re: RH7.2 install

2002-03-28 Thread Matthew J. Brodeur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't care that it's not, I just want confirmation that if you get a copy of RH7.2 on CD, install it, ask it to boot to X, that in fact you will be unable to do so. How about if I confirm that

Re: RH7.2 install

2002-03-28 Thread Angus D Madden
Matthew J. Brodeur, Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 08:54:30AM -0500: I did just install 7.2.92b (Skipjack) on two machines and had them boot to X with no problem. However, when I swapped the video card in one and booted, it stopped at a text login with no indication of even trying X. The

VNC server used for the RPM presentation last night

2002-03-28 Thread Paul Iadonisi
As requested, here's the information on the VNC server I was using last night for the RPM presentation. It's put out by HeXoNet Support GmbH and can be located at http://forums.hexonet.com/. There are no rpms there, but I can provide a spec file and a patch for those who would like one (hey,

Re: RH7.2 install

2002-03-28 Thread plussier
In a message dated: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:04:28 EST Angus D Madden said: Have you checked the logs for gdm or X? Perhaps the display manager is having problems. I don't know where the logs are on RH but on Debian the relevant log would be /var/log/gdm/\:0.log What happens when you run

Re: RH7.2 install

2002-03-28 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, at 9:15am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm merely trying to determine if this is NORMAL for the release of the images I have. I think it is self-evident at this point that the behavior is inconsistent, depending on specifics of configuration not currently known. Since you

Re: RH7.2 install

2002-03-28 Thread Matthew J. Brodeur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about if I confirm that it IS possible to have RH7.2 boot to X immediately after install? Only if you used the original images :) Actually, yes. Since RH started using multiple CDs it's

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-28 Thread Bob Bell
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 11:26:06PM -0500, Rich Cloutier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *sigh* I fear that this is vaccuum tube mentality. Unless an electronic device has electro-mechanical parts that wear out, or has been stressed beyond its specifications (unlikely in the average computer chassis)

Re: VNC server used for the RPM presentation last night

2002-03-28 Thread Mark Komarinski
Are the slides online somewhere, or can you provide the MagicPoint source for the presentation? -Mark On Thu, 2002-03-28 at 09:14, Paul Iadonisi wrote: As requested, here's the information on the VNC server I was using last night for the RPM presentation. It's put out by HeXoNet Support

Re: RH7.2 install

2002-03-28 Thread Matthew J. Brodeur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul said: I'm merely trying to determine if this is NORMAL for the release of the images I have. Just to make things interesting I did a test install of RH7.2 on a spare system. It was an FTP install from a server with the original ISOs

Re: VNC server used for the RPM presentation last night

2002-03-28 Thread Paul Iadonisi
[Said in the voice of Richard Dawson] And your Assignment IS: Attached is a spec file and a patch file for each of rfb and xclass. To practice a little rpm building, go grab the sources from the link below and use these spec files and patches to build rpms. Have fun! On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at

Re: VNC server used for the RPM presentation last night

2002-03-28 Thread Charlie Farinella
Are the slides online somewhere, or can you provide the MagicPoint source for the presentation? There's a tarball here: http://www.gnhlug.org/presentations.html I'll get to putting them up in html format later. --charlie -- Charlie Farinella CreditNow!, Corp.

Re: RH7.2 install

2002-03-28 Thread plussier
In a message dated: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:12:34 EST Matthew J. Brodeur said: Just to make things interesting I did a test install of RH7.2 on a spare system. It was an FTP install from a server with the original ISOs mounted. I selected Workstation and autopartitioning, and opted for

Re: RH7.2 install

2002-03-28 Thread jkubeck
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Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-28 Thread Rich C
- Original Message - From: Bob Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 2:34 PM Subject: Re: RAID Problems You would think so, wouldn't you? However, one of my Netgear FA310TX's that I've been using for about 2 years suddenly stopped working a

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-28 Thread Michael O'Donnell
Used hardware can fail. New hardware can fail. A failure is a failure. I think I saw it said here that if one's data were important enough that a RAID was being considered then the purchase of used equipment should somehow be ruled out, but I must have missed some crucial piece of that

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-28 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Michael O'Donnell hath spake thusly: because I don't see how owning a new (versus used) RAID controller saves you if it fails. If you can get a replacement controller under warranty why can't you get a replacement

Re: RH7.2 install

2002-03-28 Thread John Abreau
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The interesting thing is that inittab *is* tweaked. Everything seems to be as it should for booting right into X, yet it's not. I don't care that it's not, I just want confirmation that if you get a copy of RH7.2 on CD, install it, ask it to boot to X, that in

Java Runtime Environment?

2002-03-28 Thread plussier
Anyone know of a decent JRE for Linux (preferably one I can apt-get install :) Thanks! -- Seeya, Paul * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body.

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-28 Thread John Abreau
Rich C [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Precisely my point. Although 2 years is a long time for a design flaw to become evident, that was in fact the reason for the failure. You are not the only one who has had a Netgear card stop working. That is why I now use Linksys. While this is an unusual

Re: Java Runtime Environment?

2002-03-28 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, at 3:09pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of a decent JRE for Linux (preferably one I can apt-get install :) I was at http://www.debian.org/doc the other day, and I remember seeing a an entire document devoted to the discussion of Java on Debian. Try there. --

Re: Java Runtime Environment?

2002-03-28 Thread Alex Hewitt USG
How about: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/download.html -Alex Wirth's Law: Software gets slower faster than Hardware gets faster! On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section, it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux. - Anonymous The closest I'm

Re: MPlayer install

2002-03-28 Thread Tom Buskey
John Abreau said: --==_Exmh_-545042407P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii As I recall, the only problem I had with Redhat 7.0 was in trying to compile MPlayer, where its configure script would explicitly check the version of gcc and then loudly announce that that version was

Re: RAID Problems

2002-03-28 Thread plussier
In a message dated: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:14:59 EST John Abreau said: Funny; I had two Netgear 8-port 10/100 switches I'd been running for years, and they both just suddenly died. One about four or five months ago, and the other just a couple weeks ago. I don't remember exactly when I bought

Re: Java Runtime Environment?

2002-03-28 Thread Angus D Madden
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 03:09:16PM -0500: Anyone know of a decent JRE for Linux (preferably one I can apt-get install :) apt-get install jdk1.1 superfluous If you are looking for something that works with mozilla, I'd recommend running mozilla as root, and going to

Re: Java Runtime Environment?

2002-03-28 Thread plussier
In a message dated: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:33:22 EST Angus D Madden said: apt-get install jdk1.1 Hmmm, thought I did that. Yup, dpkg -l jdk1.1 show it's there. Thought that was just a dev kit though, not the JRE. Aren't they separate things? superfluous If you are looking for something that

Re: Java Runtime Environment?

2002-03-28 Thread Michael O'Donnell
My /etc/apt/sources.list looks like this: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testingmain contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free ...and when I did this: apt-cache search java | fgrep -i run ...I saw this: kaffe

RE: Java Runtime Environment?

2002-03-28 Thread Mansur, Warren
JDK stands for Java Developer's Kit, and I *believe* it includes the JRE. The JRE is the Java Runtime Environment, containing enough to execute Java applications, but nothing to develop them. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday,

Re: Java Runtime Environment?

2002-03-28 Thread John Abreau
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmmm, thought I did that. Yup, dpkg -l jdk1.1 show it's there. Thought that was just a dev kit though, not the JRE. Aren't they separate things? Actually, I'm trying to install OpenOffice, and the screen keeps telling me there's no JRE installed. Any

Re: Java Runtime Environment?

2002-03-28 Thread Angus D Madden
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 03:38:44PM -0500: Hmmm, thought I did that. Yup, dpkg -l jdk1.1 show it's there. Thought that was just a dev kit though, not the JRE. Aren't they separate things? In the package description: This package contains Sun's Java Runtime Environment,

ypxfrd

2002-03-28 Thread Robert Casey
Under Redhat Linux 7.2 I can't seem to get ypxfrd to start on the NIS server. When watching the system boot there is an error when ypxfrd tries to start and it says starting yp map server:execvp:no such file or directory so of course it fails. The man page for ypxfrd mentions that this daemon

Re: ypxfrd

2002-03-28 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Robert Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The man page for ypxfrd mentions that this daemon starts slowly so make sure it starts after ypserv. When I look in the rc. directories it appears to be S26ypxfrd and ypserv also says S26ypserv. Does anyone know if this is okay or should ypxfrd start

Re: Java resources

2002-03-28 Thread Richard Soule
Oracle JDeveloper recently got an award from Javaworld readers as the best Java IDE (not exactly sure of the actual name of the award, and I might have the name of the mag wrong). It's written in Java and can be downloaded from otn.oracle.com for free for personal use (like learning Java). If

Re: ypxfrd

2002-03-28 Thread plussier
In a message dated: 28 Mar 2002 17:30:23 EST Kevin D. Clark said: Robert Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The man page for ypxfrd mentions that this daemon starts slowly so make sure it starts after ypserv. When I look in the rc. directories it appears to be S26ypxfrd and ypserv also says

Can't boot scsi timeout

2002-03-28 Thread Charles Farinella
I'm trying to install RH 7.2 on a dual processor server with an Adaptec scsi card and after the install (which goes routinely), it tries to boot, and I get the following: scsi: aborting command due to time out : pid 0, scsi 0, channel 0, id4, lun 0, Inquiry 00 00 00 ff 00 This goes on, and

Re: Can't boot scsi timeout

2002-03-28 Thread Paul Iadonisi
Intel 440GX Chipset? If so, it's a known problem with buggy bioses on these boards. The only known fixes/workarounds are to enable IO_APIC in the kernel, which should be enabled in the install kernel, or use the smp kernel. But, unfortunately, it's been reported that it doesn't always work.

Re: ypxfrd

2002-03-28 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Kevin D. Clark hath spake thusly: it appears to be S26ypxfrd and ypserv also says S26ypserv. Does anyone know if this is okay or should ypxfrd start later than it is. Well if ypxfrd should start after ypserv (I'm going

Re: Can't boot scsi timeout

2002-03-28 Thread Rich Payne
On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Paul Iadonisi wrote: Intel 440GX Chipset? If so, it's a known problem with buggy bioses on these boards. The only known fixes/workarounds are to enable IO_APIC in the kernel, which should be enabled in the install kernel, or use the smp kernel. But, unfortunately,

Re: RH7.2 install

2002-03-28 Thread Paul Iadonisi
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 03:42:37PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I've installed RH7.2 (no erratas) 4 times today. Not once has it come up with X running, yet each time I specifically stated that I wanted to use GNOME and wanted it to be started at boot time. Sorry I didn't