Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-11-26 Thread Dmitri Trembovetski
Just in case this hadn't been replied to: yes, we'd seen this behavior on certain video boards only on Vista with Aero enabled. I'm pretty sure this is a Vista bug, but we'll try to work around it. Thanks, Dmitri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I've been playing a few hours

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA-- another stupid question...

2007-11-26 Thread Ken Warner
I thought the first notice that was sent out about the D3D pipeline said that the OpenGl pipeline was turned on for D3D. I must have misunderstood what was said. The D3D pipeline and the OpenGL pipelines are two different pipelines with two entirely different sets of problems mostly caused by

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA-- another stupid question...

2007-11-26 Thread Dmitri Trembovetski
Ken Warner wrote: I thought the first notice that was sent out about the D3D pipeline said that the OpenGl pipeline was turned on for D3D. the OpenGl pipeline was turned on for D3D - this doesn't make any sense. Not sure how something like this can be concluded from what have been

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA-

2007-11-26 Thread java2d
Unfortunately you will not be able to force it using -Dsun.java2d.d3d=true . Couldn't this be changed at least for the operating-system checks? If someone specifies d3d he really wants D3D enabled, otherwise he/she would not specify it, or sun.java2d.d3d=true/false/force? This is like

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA-

2007-11-26 Thread Dmitri Trembovetski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately you will not be able to force it using -Dsun.java2d.d3d=true . Couldn't this be changed at least for the operating-system checks? If someone specifies d3d he really wants D3D enabled, otherwise he/she would not specify it, or

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-11-23 Thread Dmitri Trembovetski
First of all, FYI, b07 is out. It has a couple of important fixes - it significantly improves performance of Netbeans (and other applications which use LCD and grayscale AA text simultaneously) and addresses issues on Intel chips. Ken Warner wrote: I have an NVida GeForce2

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-11-23 Thread Ken Warner
More stupid design strategy decisions by SUN. Who thinks up these strategies? And then the rational that is expressed to support those stupid decisions are next to priceless. What ever you do -- never listen to the people who actually try to use Java. I give up. And while I know nobody at

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-11-22 Thread java2d
Hello, I've been playing a few hours with the 6u5 and the D3D pipeline. (I'm quite sure it is enabled, as a full-screen drawing framerate drops by a factor of about 20 when disabled, with CPU usage jumping to about 70%) Marvelous performance (thank you all for your work), however I have found

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-11-22 Thread java2d
Most of my application works great with the changes but I did find that custom painting in charts is broken throughout the application. Rendering artifacts occur in my custom charts and in JFreeChart charts as well. The artifacts go away when I disable the new pipeline. Here is the trace

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-11-22 Thread java2d
Thanks for your report. What exactly is broken - what kind of artifacts you're seeing? Do you have to do something special in order for it to reproduce (like move the window around, or expose it) Could you please send me a screenshot? (tdv at sun dot com) I can't reproduce this on my Nvidia

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-11-22 Thread java2d
After further investigation I found the necessary driver on the Dell website. After updating the graphics problems went away. Thanks for the help. [Message sent by forum member 'sjcrank' (sjcrank)] http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=245492

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-11-14 Thread java2d
Also, could you try updating the driver? The latest driver is 6.14.11.6375 on my system. Dmitri [Message sent by forum member 'trembovetski' (trembovetski)] http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=245455 === To

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-11-14 Thread java2d
nvidia does not list a driver for my card Quadro NVS 110M and I am hesitant to install a driver that is not advertised by nvidia to be compatible with my card. [Message sent by forum member 'sjcrank' (sjcrank)] http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=245460

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-11-14 Thread java2d
Screenshots have been sent. [Message sent by forum member 'sjcrank' (sjcrank)] http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=245458 === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-11-14 Thread java2d
Thanks! I have filed bug 6629891: D3D: Rendering artifacts with older driver [Nvidia Quadro NVS 110M] to track this issue (will appear on bugs.sun.com soon). We'll disable the pipeline on drivers older than 6.14.11.5665 (earliest known to work at this point). Thanks, Dmitri [Message sent by

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-10-31 Thread java2d
Dmitri I tried the release and had got all kind of paint-related problems in my java xmleditor. They did occur especially with bigger files A few examples: - My textpane is not painted correctly: when I drag with my mouse over the text I got all kind of repaint problems. The backgroundcolor

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-10-31 Thread Dmitri Trembovetski
Hi Dick, thanks for the info. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried the release and had got all kind of paint-related problems in my java xmleditor. They did occur especially with bigger files A few examples: - My textpane is not painted correctly: when I drag with my mouse over the text I

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-10-11 Thread java2d
Hello, I found another interesting performance regression in one of my applications. Scrolling in a JTable seems to be sluggish when I show a splashcreen first, rendering speed is good when I don't show the splashscreen or when the splashcreen does not exceed a width or height of 150 pixels.

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-10-09 Thread Dmitri Trembovetski
Hi Martin, Thanks a lot for the detailed report. There are two issues here: - some images loaded with Toolkit.getImage() (at least, pngs) aren't accelerated - this had been addressed in jdk7 but not in 6uN. I'll file a bug on this one. - for some unaccelerated images

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-10-09 Thread Ken Warner
http://pancyl.com/debug.htm I've put some timing code in my applet. It may be useful to do a comparison between 1.5 and 1.6 with the D3D acceleration on your own machine. What you will see in the console window is -- PanCyl v0.3.2_D3DTest Interp Time = 841ms Paint Time(640, 360) = 50ms ---

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-10-09 Thread Dmitri Trembovetski
Hello, Just an update.. Dmitri Trembovetski wrote: Hi Martin, Thanks a lot for the detailed report. There are two issues here: - some images loaded with Toolkit.getImage() (at least, pngs) aren't accelerated - this had been addressed in jdk7 but not in 6uN. I'll

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-10-05 Thread java2d
I don't really know which of my operations cause hardware rendering and which perform software rendering, because I just love the ease to create fancy animations without having to deal with that questions :) So maybe I did something wrong. I extracted a simple example from my program that

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-10-05 Thread java2d
Thanks, Dmitri. I want to correct a minor detail in my problem description. I said vanish and reappear. I really should have said that the dialog came up blank (after the program ran all night) and then as I moved the mouse pointer over where the controls were supposed to be, each control

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-10-04 Thread Dmitri Trembovetski
Thanks, Roger. Yes, this is a known problem with the 945G chipset: 6612195: D3d: Netbeans editor is completely unusable with JDK 6uN [Intel 945G] You'll have to use the workaround for now, unfortunately. Thank you, Dmitri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dmitri, I've just

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-10-04 Thread Dmitri Trembovetski
Hi Ken, thank you for your comments. I don't think I can comment on the VM heap issue - this is probably a question for the deployment team. I'm not sure how it would work given that VM serves multiple applets at the same time. Thanks, Dmitri Ken Warner wrote: Hi Dmitri,

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-10-04 Thread Dmitri Trembovetski
Good to hear! Dmitri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Works smoothly on this Dell Latitude D620 with Vista Ultimate so far. In fact, it works better - the JTable headers are now much more compact and elegant compare to JavaSE6u2 (esp with the sorting icon!) :) [Message sent by forum member

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-10-04 Thread java2d
Works smoothly on this Dell Latitude D620 with Vista Ultimate so far. In fact, it works better - the JTable headers are now much more compact and elegant compare to JavaSE6u2 (esp with the sorting icon!) :) [Message sent by forum member 'alexlamsl' (alexlamsl)]

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-10-04 Thread java2d
Hi Dmitri, I was really excited to get my hands on the 6uN EA. But the performance boost of the DX9 rendering I expected didn't come. In fact, it became horribly slow :( Here is what the trace output says: [I] CheckAdaptersInfo [I] -- [I] Adapter Ordinal : 0 [I] Description

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-10-04 Thread Dmitri Trembovetski
Hi Sebastian, It is true that some operations may become slower. Mostly it is when software and hardware rendering are mixed togeter. In your case it is likely that you are causing reading from video memory to system memory, which is very slow. But to verify this and may be

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-10-04 Thread java2d
It's hopeless on a Toshiba M35-S320 with NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200. This is not surprising because QuickTime doesn't work either unless I disable D3D acceleration in QuickTime's settings. I'm stuck with the driver on Toshiba's support site because the drivers on NVIDIA's web site don't support

Re: [JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-10-04 Thread Rob Ratcliff
Dimitri, I tried the new version with the nightly build of NetBeans 6 and noticed that the status bar in the lower right hand corner of the application leaves vertical blue line remnants as it moves back and forth (indeterminate state mode) during compilations and such. I also noticed that mouse

[JAVA2D] Please try the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline in 6uN EA

2007-10-03 Thread Dmitri Trembovetski
Hello, Sun had released an Early Access of 6uN (formerly known as the Consumer Release). You can get build b04 here: http://download.java.net/jdk6/ This build contains the new Direct3D 9-based Java2D pipeline, which is enabled by default on Windows platform. It is very similar to