Re: JDEE plugins (was JUCI)

2003-02-19 Thread Phillip Lord
Paul == Paul Kinnucan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul Hi Nick, Paul I am posting my response to your idea of JUCI-based plugins Paul to the JDEE list because I am interested in getting other Paul people's Paul input on this idea. This sounds like a thoroughly good idea to me. I've

RE: JDEE plugins (was JUCI)

2003-02-19 Thread Petter Måhlén
I second those sentiments and that motion. / Petter -Original Message- From: Mark Pollack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: den 19 februari 2003 02:01 To: Paul Kinnucan; Nascif Abousalh-Neto Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: JDEE plugins (was JUCI) Hi, Just my two cents

RE: JDEE plugins (was JUCI)

2003-02-19 Thread Nic Pottier
would spend the time to do some new things. -Nic -Original Message- From: Nascif Abousalh-Neto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:35 AM To: Paul Kinnucan Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: JDEE plugins (was JUCI) Hi Paul, Just to recap: 1) The plug

RE: JDEE plugins (was JUCI)

2003-02-19 Thread James Higginbotham
snip/ Until recently I think Emacs has been unsurpassed as the editor to use for Java, but I think some of the IDE's are catching up, specifically IntelliJ which most people I work with use. There are a few features there which I think would be easy to implement as JDE plugins

RE: JDEE plugins (was JUCI)

2003-02-19 Thread Nascif Abousalh-Neto
PM To: Nic Pottier; Abousalh-Neto, Nascif [NCRTP:3X20:EXCH]; Paul Kinnucan Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: JDEE plugins (was JUCI) snip/ Until recently I think Emacs has been unsurpassed as the editor to use for Java, but I think some of the IDE's are catching up

RE: JDEE plugins (was JUCI)

2003-02-19 Thread Nascif Abousalh-Neto
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: JDEE plugins (was JUCI) snip/ Until recently I think Emacs has been unsurpassed as the editor to use for Java, but I think some of the IDE's are catching up, specifically IntelliJ which most people I work with use. There are a few features

RE: JDEE plugins (was JUCI)

2003-02-19 Thread James Higginbotham
- From: Nascif Abousalh-Neto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 11:47 AM To: James Higginbotham; Nic Pottier; Paul Kinnucan Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: JDEE plugins (was JUCI) Well, looks like I jumped the gun. There is not API to look at yet for this JSR 198. I

RE: JDEE plugins (was JUCI)

2003-02-19 Thread Paul Kinnucan
Hi, You and others have raised two related but separate issues: one is the need for plugin-in support and the other is a need for a way to extend the JDEE that requires only Java programming skills. My proposal addresses the first. I believe Nick Sieger's JUCI addresses the second. Perhaps Nick

RE: JDEE plugins (was JUCI)

2003-02-19 Thread Paul Kinnucan
Nascif Abousalh-Neto writes: Hi Paul, Just to recap: 1) The plug-in will follow the proposed directory structure; 2) It will have a lisp/plugin.el file that will be evaluated at load time by JDE (still not sure what goes here, any suggestion?); plugin.el might be useful in

RE: JDEE plugins (was JUCI)

2003-02-19 Thread Nick Sieger
MP == Mark Pollack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MP Hi, Just my two cents, I'm a lisp-wimp as I am sure are many of MP the users of JDEE, but a good Java programmer. If there was some MP way that I could write JDEE extensions in Java for at least some MP subset of plug-in functionality that would

RE: JDEE plugins (was JUCI)

2003-02-19 Thread Nick Sieger
PK == Paul Kinnucan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] 4) Based on (3), it can replace direct invocations of the JVM with jde-eval calls (which should make it much faster) PK Yes. Problem with (4) is how to get the output to a compilation buffer. When I launch a new JVM process myself,

RE: JDEE plugins (was JUCI)

2003-02-19 Thread Nick Sieger
PK == Paul Kinnucan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PK Hi, You and others have raised two related but separate issues: PK one is the need for plugin-in support and the other is a need for PK a way to extend the JDEE that requires only Java programming PK skills. My proposal addresses the first. I

RE: JDEE plugins (was JUCI)

2003-02-19 Thread Nascif Abousalh-Neto
Hi Nick, Where possible, talk in terms of emacs interface objects (buffers, windows, frames, region, point, etc.) but also express them in terms of what a Java interface might look like. What are the logical groupings for retrieving certain kinds of information? What would you name

Re: JDEE plugins (was JUCI)

2003-02-19 Thread Galen Boyer
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this plugin architecture may require enough redesign to rethink the way JDE works now. One thing that seems prevalent in these thoughts is that the JDE is the central point of focus for this plugin architecture and the plugin architecture is

RE: JDEE plugins (was JUCI)

2003-02-18 Thread Mark Pollack
To: Nascif Abousalh-Neto Cc: Paul Kinnucan; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: JDEE plugins (was JUCI) Nascif Abousalh-Neto writes: Sounds like a great idea! I would volunteer to re-write the Jalopy (http://jalopy.sourceforge.net/) integration package I put together. I could also take a stab