how to deal with NSFS sender verification

2008-09-06 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
I think this (or something similar) may have been discussed before, but I can't find it just now. I just got an automated reply (direct to my email address) that was evidently triggered by my post to -kooler. Thank you for your recent email. My inbox is protected by Nodens Spam Filtering

Re: kernel-panic.org: only one MX-server -- is this correct?

2008-08-04 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: We don't have a backup mail server and because all the mail is mailing list. The 0 is fine. Ahhh, ok, I see. Thanks, ..jim -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer

Re: NCAS Installfests in August, et al

2008-07-23 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Carl Lowenstein wrote: On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Robert Donovan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the interest of getting more timely Installfest information to the list, I just got the semester schedule for fall/winter at NCAS. Summer semester begins to day and ends on Aug 09, 2008. The

Re: Sparky mail delivery delays to gmail

2008-07-20 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Gus Wirth wrote: Sparky seems to be having trouble delivering e-mail to Google gmail. It has been taking almost half an hour to get messages delivered. A snip of my last message: From - Sun Jul 20 11:03:49 2008 X-Account-Key: account4 X-UIDL: GmailId11b419eba5f7268b X-Mozilla-Status: 0011

Re: where to find computer projector deal?

2008-07-14 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forgive if I'm the last person to have discovered this but Google Shopping at http://shopping.google.com finds all the best deals on any product you search for. Can't that get you the model you want at a good price? We can ever mail order it so no one has to drive

rethink picnic?

2008-07-13 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
There was talk about a picnic on Sunday, July 20, but it kinda fell quiet for a while, and it didn't even get mentioned/remembered at the last meeting. I'm thinking that we may have passed by the opportunity to drum up interest among the general membership, so maybe we ought to rethink it -- for

Re: rethink picnic?

2008-07-13 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Richard W. Ernst wrote: James G. Sack (jim) wrote: There was talk about a picnic on Sunday, July 20, but it kinda fell quiet for a while, and it didn't even get mentioned/remembered at the last meeting. I'm thinking that we may have passed by the opportunity to drum up interest among

Re: An idea for managing a PC projector....

2008-07-13 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 12:36:19PM -0700, Lan Barnes wrote: We'll have to arrange a pick up. I'm not sure we've even bought it yet. If the 'it' refers to the perceived good deal on a projector I posted a couple of weeks ago, the sale price expired a couple-weeks ago

Re: Volunteering for Aug meeting talk and request to put this on web site...

2008-06-26 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: I added it to the web site and sent an email to Ed Van Meter asking that he get us room reservations through the end of the year. == Neil- perhaps you need to correct your request to EVM? According to a past post we already have rooms through the EOY. (August: 401/402 --

Re: long time no picnic

2008-06-26 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Tracy R Reed wrote: Neil Schneider wrote: I suggest you organize a picnic planning committee and decide on the date and place. Due to my current schedule, I have little time to put into organizing such an event right now. Good idea. Jim and I are the picnic planning committee. ;) Anyone

Re: long time no picnic

2008-06-26 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Tracy R Reed wrote: .. Good idea. Jim and I are the picnic planning committee. ;) Anyone else who wants to get involved are welcome to. Hey! I kinda remember that Rich Ernst is a genius at picnic organizing. Rich -- can you contribute your wisdom here? :-) Regards, ..jim --

long time no picnic

2008-06-16 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Anybody interested? Regards, ..jim (and where can you have a picnic with beer allowed, anyway?) -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer

Re: long time no picnic

2008-06-16 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
to do so? Otherwise, I have a gas/propane grill I can bring down. Personally, I prefer the beach, and ideally somewhere there's a fire ring so we can have FIRE and stay into the evening. Rich Tracy R Reed wrote: James G. Sack (jim) wrote: Anybody interested? I'm game. It's summer. We

Re: KPLUG mailing lists question

2008-06-11 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Chris Louden wrote: If I may ask, what is the reason the various KPLUG mailing lists do not identify themselves in the subject line? e.g. [KPLUG], [KPLUG-Kooler] and etc. just curious. Non-authorative answer: Probably decided a long time ago that mail clients could easily filter on list

Re: July calendar conflicts

2008-06-08 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Carl Lowenstein wrote: Susan at That Technical Bookstore pointed out that the first Saturday of July is during the July 4 weekend. The best thing to do is slip the schedule by a week, and have the Bookstore InstallFest on July 12 and the National City InstallFest on July 19, rather than

Re: Anyone got an old style overhead projector for a crypto talk?

2008-06-04 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Carl Lowenstein wrote: On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 01:01:36PM -0700, Carl Lowenstein wrote: On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll volunteer to do a crypto talk sometime in future but I need an overhead projector

NCAS schedules avail? [was Re: June 14 Installfest at NCAS]

2008-05-31 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
[reply directed to steer] Robert Donovan wrote: I have been informed by the Principal that NCAS will be closed for summer break on June 14th and nobody will be available to open the school for the fest. we must therefore cancel the June NCAS Installfest. The July Installfest is still on as

Re: NCAS schedules avail? [was Re: June 14 Installfest at NCAS]

2008-05-31 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Carl Lowenstein wrote: On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 7:31 PM, James G. Sack (jim) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [reply directed to steer] Robert Donovan wrote: I have been informed by the Principal that NCAS will be closed for summer break on June 14th and nobody will be available to open the school

Re: KPLUG Meeting room for June 2008 meeting

2008-05-12 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Gus Wirth wrote: I was originally told that there would be no meeting room available at SDCOE for the June 2008 meeting. I found a message from Ed Van Meter dated 04/01/2008 which seems to confirm that. However, I found a later message from Ed to Neil (bcc'd to me, not the KPLUG list) dated

Meeting Room Monthly Reservation Schedules At SDCOE

2008-04-01 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Hi all, I notice that the last posting about room reservations was a confirmation email from Ed Van Meter August 30,2007. On that email the last reservations were as follows **K-PLUG LINUX STUDY GROUP SIG --- .. 04/03/2008 .. Annex 'C' **KERNEL-PANIC LINUX USER GROUP SIG --- .. 04/10/2008 ..

Re: Linux InstallFests in March

2008-02-26 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: James G. Sack (jim) wrote: [reply diverted to -steer] Carl Lowenstein wrote: February has 29 days this year, and is immediately followed by Saturday March 1. InstallFest at That Technical Bookstore Saturday March 1, 10 - 4 http://www.thattechnicalbookstore.com

March meeting (lackof) [was Re: Linux InstallFests in March]

2008-02-26 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Tracy R Reed wrote: James G. Sack (jim) wrote: Neil Schneider wrote: James G. Sack (jim) wrote: I was hoping someone would step up and volunteer to find us a space. So far no response. We don't have a space for a meeting, so at this point it's looking like there won't be a meeting

Re: Feb Meeting Topic [was Re: Can't do talk in Feb]

2008-01-28 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: Joshua Penix wrote: On Jan 24, 2008, at 4:17 PM, James G. Sack (jim) wrote: Does anyone feel comfortable comparing (or moderating) KDE vs Gnome? I don't know that a vs setup would be worthwhile, but this tickles an idea I've had in the back of my head for a year or two

Feb Meeting Topic [was Re: Can't do talk in Feb]

2008-01-24 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't do my copyright talk in Feb. I'll have to get back with everyone of acceptable months. (I have a scheduling conflict with a Tae Kwon Do class I'm taking every month.) Here's an idea to stir the pot: Does anyone feel comfortable comparing (or moderating) KDE

Re: Events this week

2008-01-09 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: Carl Lowenstein wrote: I expected to see a little blue spot on the January calendar at the 12, linked to the InstallFest page. Maybe I have been spoiled. There is on my view of the page. Hmmm, it seems that these highlights only show to logged-on users! Wonder

Re: KPLUG Meeting room schedule for 2008

2008-01-04 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Gus Wirth wrote: I haven't seen a meeting room schedule yet for 2008. Has anyone else seen one yet? from a previous email: .. These schedules only cover dates from September 2007 through April 2008, based upon the March 2008 exception noted herein, for each Linux SIG meeting. The specific

Re: Jim may have to wait until morning

2007-12-30 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Joshua Penix wrote: Jim, just sent another test message, and RR still rejected it. I realized that they've probably cached the NXDOMAIN result for our IP. Hopefully it should clear up by morning... if not then we've got more work to do. :) ... aand upon further log reading, it appears

can someone access sparky and send me a email from there?

2007-12-29 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
RE: no list mail, Roadrunner says they have been having problems but the message was very vague, and furthermore, well, here it is: ..we are currently experiencing server problems in your area. Our engineers are working to resolve this issue as soon as possible. We are not aware of an estimated

RE: can someone access sparky and send me a email from there?

2007-12-29 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
[header-thread-discontinuity, because I'm copying from the archives] On Dec 29, 2007, at 4:24 PM, James G. Sack (jim) wrote: I was going to log into newspark, but my ssh fails The newspark VM is currently down... only dom0 and oldspark are up. I was wondering if someone with access can

Re: can someone access sparky and send me a email from there?

2007-12-29 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Joshua Penix wrote: On Dec 29, 2007, at 5:55 PM, James G. Sack (jim) wrote: So it looks like we[you] are going through an unnecessary step just because RoadRunner is violating rfc2821 (if I understand jhriv's explanation)? Should I complain to RR? No. The chunk of RFC being discussed

Re: www.kernel-panic.org is EXTREMELY sluggish again

2007-12-19 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Christoph Maier wrote: http://www.kernel-panic.org is EXTREMELY sluggish again (it looks about as bad as it ever was with the old server), and the links into my blog are broken again. So, instead of just complaining ... what would I need to do to get into a position to fix it? Seems

Re: www.kernel-panic.org is EXTREMELY sluggish again

2007-12-19 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Joshua Penix wrote: On Dec 19, 2007, at 1:22 PM, James G. Sack (jim) wrote: So, instead of just complaining ... what would I need to do to get into a position to fix it? Seems offline now, maybe someone's working on it? Oh-wait, it's back, but longish ping times. Ahhh, 'ping -n' works

Re: www.kernel-panic.org is EXTREMELY sluggish again

2007-12-19 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Christoph Maier wrote: http://www.kernel-panic.org is EXTREMELY sluggish again (it looks about as bad as it ever was with the old server), and the links into my blog are broken again. So, instead of just complaining ... what would I need to do to get into a position to fix it? I

Re: how are things looking for the December meeting?

2007-11-27 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Lan Barnes wrote: On Mon, November 26, 2007 8:23 pm, James G. Sack (jim) wrote: Just wondering.. Calendar says: General Meeing December 13 2007 [1%] by gsmraxe, 2007-11-03 18:01 Managing your media in Linux Weren't there going to be a couple of contributors? Any slackers needing

Re: meeting tonight

2007-11-08 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Carl Lowenstein wrote: It looks like I got sidetracked for too many days. I haven't been able to put much of a presentation together for tonight. Thinking about it, a live demo would be a better way to do Customizing your shell user interface or whatever I called it. Maybe another month a

Re: Room reservation

2007-10-22 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Randall Shimizu wrote: Can someone clarify who is giving the room availability please..?? That was a cut-n-paste from the the email that originates with Ed Van Meter, our interface with SDCOE for these things. Sorry I didn't paste more of it, I thought readers of -steer would remember those

Reservation Schedules at SDCOE

2007-10-21 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
At least in my archives, the previous mail (2007.01.02) regarding this subject seems to go only through August. Am I missing a later missive? Or do we not have (notice of) confirmed reservations? Regards, ..jim -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org

Re: Reservation Schedules at SDCOE

2007-10-21 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Tracy R Reed wrote: Carl Lowenstein wrote: This sounds like a job for the umbrella SDCS organization. Forwarded to SDCS-board. If it has already been forwarded I didn't receive it. I haven't received any SDCS mail in ages. I fear I have fallen off the lists somehow and perhaps even missed

Re: August Meeting

2007-08-04 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Lan Barnes wrote: On Sat, August 4, 2007 2:43 pm, Neil Schneider wrote: Lan Barnes wrote: Don't know if this is fair for August Meeting, but I'm doing a house book purge this weekend, and lots of O'Reilly and other tech books are going under the knife. Does the Kplug Library still want

Re: August Meeting

2007-08-03 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: .. From Mark Wolfe: From Power on to Power off Mark Wolfe and Tracy Reed will be giving a presentation on making your life as a system admin easier. Server issues are not a problem with automated deployment tools. Be back up and running from disaster in minutes.

Re: August Meeting

2007-07-31 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: Ok, why don't two or three of us, put our heads together and starting with http://www.kernel-panic.org/Members/pacneil/beginner/node3 that's .../node3.html in the link above in case anyone got confused BTW: the _index_ actually makes a good TOC:

Re: August Meeting

2007-07-20 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
need a topic and presenters for the August Meeting. Can we come to a consensus about a topic and some presenters? I see an opportunity to refresh and update the Beginning Linux e-book http://www.kernel-panic.org/Members/pacneil/beginner James G. Sack (jim) wrote: James G. Sack (jim) wrote

Re: August Meeting

2007-07-16 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
James G. Sack (jim) wrote: Neil Schneider wrote: I think we need to figure out what we're going to do for August. There were a bunch of good topics discussed last Thursday night. Jim, I would be most grateful if you would give us a synopsis from your notes about that could kick start

Re: August Meeting

2007-07-15 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: I think we need to figure out what we're going to do for August. There were a bunch of good topics discussed last Thursday night. Jim, I would be most grateful if you would give us a synopsis from your notes about that could kick start this conversation. Willco.

Re: www.kernel-panic.org

2007-07-03 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
James G. Sack (jim) wrote: .. A little update. Response seems better as-of ~midnight. It is now up to merely very__s_l_o_w. Ummm, simply navigating around several pages seems to restore the _s__l__o__w_. I do notice some errors in the error log that I don't remember seeing before -- RSS

Re: www.kernel-panic.org

2007-07-02 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
John H. Robinson, IV wrote: John H. Robinson, IV wrote: John H. Robinson, IV wrote: Carl Lowenstein wrote: As of a few minutes ago, the KPLUG web site was not responding to a web browser. It responds to pings, and apparently the list server is working, since fresh items keep appearing.

Re: Sparky III Installation

2007-05-26 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Joshua Penix wrote: I'm heading up to the colo tomorrow around noon and bringing Sparky III with me for installation. My plan is to execute a P2V (Physical to Virtual) migration of the old server. This will mean some downtime for the website and mailing lists tomorrow. Not sure how long...

Re: Sparky III Installation

2007-05-26 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Stewart Stremler wrote: .. Oh, waitaminute, the errors seem not really continuous, but only something like a few per hour. Hm. How does one look at the logs? If you can get into the Zope Management Interface, and look at the plone site kplug_main, there is a item in the main pane called

Re: Sparky III Installation

2007-05-26 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: James G. Sack (jim) wrote: Stewart Stremler wrote: .. Oh, waitaminute, the errors seem not really continuous, but only something like a few per hour. Hm. How does one look at the logs? If you can get into the Zope Management Interface, and look at the plone site

Re: SparKPLUG III installfest

2007-05-10 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Gus Wirth wrote: .. Neil Schneider wrote: The date is Thursday May 3, 2007 7:00 - 9:00 PM All the hardware is now in and tested. So it's time to get SparKPLUG III up and running so we can replace the aging SpraKPLUG II. Anyone who is interested in seeing what the club acquired with the

Re: RAM-a-lam-a-ding-dong (Sparky III is complete!)

2007-04-29 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Andrew Lentvorski wrote: Gregory K. Ruiz-Ade wrote: On Apr 29, 2007, at 2:16 AM, markw wrote: I've been doing all my installs over Gigabit lately. :) I've found that installing RHEL over an NFS share (of the ISO files) over gigabit ethernet is actually faster than installing off of

Re: RAM-a-lam-a-ding-dong (Sparky III is complete!)

2007-04-27 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Joshua Penix wrote: On Apr 26, 2007, at 8:56 PM, James G. Sack (jim) wrote: An LPSG field trip .. I like it. :) Oh if LPSG still has conference rooms on the first Thursday of the month, we could do it there too. Also I realized I didn't specify a time, but would figure on starting

Re: RAM-a-lam-a-ding-dong (Sparky III is complete!)

2007-04-27 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Gus Wirth wrote: Joshua Penix wrote: On Apr 26, 2007, at 8:56 PM, James G. Sack (jim) wrote: An LPSG field trip .. I like it. :) Oh if LPSG still has conference rooms on the first Thursday of the month, we could do it there too. Also I realized I didn't specify a time, but would figure

Re: RAM-a-lam-a-ding-dong (Sparky III is complete!)

2007-04-27 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
James G. Sack (jim) wrote: Joshua Penix wrote: .. And we could order food. :) Food, good! I'll put in my share (even a bit more, if needed). That was ambiguous .. I meant /of the cost/. Of course, I'll take back my share of the food (or..) :-). ..j -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http

Re: meeting plan for April 12

2007-04-10 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: Neil Schneider wrote: I forgot, until I started thinking about Jim and George's suggestions, we don't have a projector in room 401 402 that we can use, unless the repaired it since last month. What are the odds of that? I don't think we'll be able to resolve this by

Re: meeting plan for April 12

2007-04-09 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Gregory K. Ruiz-Ade wrote: On Apr 9, 2007, at 3:37 PM, Neil Schneider wrote: How difficult and expensive is it to replace the bulbs? Depending on the unit, the bulb can be anywhere from $500-$700. They're not cheap. They're more likely to die the more the unit is handled/transported, so

Re: Helge has a gripe AND a point

2007-04-05 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Gregory K. Ruiz-Ade wrote: The mailing list are a public forum. Let that sink in for a moment. As such, Helge should have been more careful, and not (presumably) put an email address in the Subject: header of an email sent to a mailing list. I can't seem to find the email in

Re: Helge has a gripe AND a point

2007-04-05 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Gregory K.Ruiz-Ade wrote: .. I still haven't found the message (dated today, not the original thread) which you say included me in the recipients. To be clear, if someone can cough up the Message-ID for today's message, not the original thread, that'd be great. Todays message was direct, NOT

Re: Helge has a gripe AND a point [added [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]

2007-04-05 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
James G. Sack (jim) wrote: .. I can envision an argument that diddling email-addresses within the body might have unforseen (undesirable) consequences, but.. Looking at the archive of todays messages shows that email addresses within body text *do get obfuscated*. But it looks like it didn't

Re: Helge has a gripe AND a point

2007-04-05 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Gus Wirth wrote: .. Although you are correct in that the lists are a public forum, it is evident that we do try to do some minimal obfuscation to protect e-mail addresses. Evidently, the list manager doesn't look in the subject line since that's not an obvious place to look. That's the main

Re: Sparky's coming together

2007-04-02 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
John H. Robinson, IV wrote: Joshua Penix wrote: The original order specs were for a pair of 2.0GHz dual core Xeon 5130's, and the cost for those is about $350/ea. Now we have the option of choosing the 2.0GHz quad core Xeon E5335 for about $730. This would leave one socket free for

Re: Public notification: was Re: Server quote

2007-02-22 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: Gus Wirth wrote: Andrew Lentvorski wrote: [snip] That looks good to me. Me too. I agree. OK, so I'll post it to the regular list. Whoever makes the meeting announcement: Should it me mentioned there? And/Or: how about pasting it into an event of it's own? Oh

Re: Public notification: was Re: Server quote

2007-02-21 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: James G. Sack (jim) wrote: Here's my first try at composing an announcement that could be posted to the main list, sometime before the next meeting. Presumably the sooner the better -- but let's have a critique first. It looks great to me. Might it be useful

Re: Public notification: was Re: Server quote

2007-02-20 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: ..It probably would be a good thing to summarize the discussion and reasoning for our choice. Perhaps you should post it here for review and comment, before posting it to the main list... Here's my first try at composing an announcement that could be posted to the main

Re: Public notification: was Re: Server quote

2007-02-18 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: Andrew Lentvorski wrote: James G. Sack (jim) wrote: I have a strong bad feeling about making the expenditure (of such a large fraction of our treasury) without general-group notification and allowing some reaction time. I think I agree. Notifying the group

Re: Public notification: was Re: Server quote

2007-02-18 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Richard W. Ernst wrote: .. I would suggest that the function of this steering list be advertised on the general list(s?), as well as at the meetings. Good reminder. ..j -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer

need a steer-committee report to the whole group? [was Re: Server quote]

2007-02-16 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: Joshua Penix wrote: Here's what I recommend for a server. Thanks for putting this together. As you know I have bought a previous generation of these servers and though I don't personally like the phoenix bios, all the pieces of the systems are first class. .. Since we

Re: [Fwd: Server]

2007-02-16 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: Joshua Penix wrote: Neil Schneider wrote: Any volunteers? I already get backups of other hosts located in the same cabinet as sparky using rdiff-backup to an offsite data dump. I'm in the process of adding more space this week and will be adding Sparky to the

Server software planning [was Re: Server quote]

2007-02-16 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: .. Seems that starting with a 64-bit OS will be a wise thing to do. What are the issues we'll have to contend with? Will things we run like apache, php, zope, plone, spamassassin, postfix and mailman all have 64 bit versions or 32 bit versions that run on a 64 bit OS?

Re: Server software planning [was Re: Server quote]

2007-02-16 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: ..We don't really need much in the way of development tools, and from a security point of view, there shouldn't be any on a web server/mail server. It only makes it easier for the crackers to compile their tools, if they break in to the server. That raises a side point:

Re: [Fwd: Server]

2007-02-15 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Andrew Lentvorski wrote: Neil Schneider wrote: I wish more people would participate in the discussion. I don't think we need to rush, but sometime in the next month would probably be a good time for coming to a consensus. I agree. A little more participation would be nice. However,

Re: Bugs on the existing server

2007-02-14 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Christoph Maier wrote: Hi, may I temporarily steer your attention away from getting a new server to getting the PLONE bugs on the existing one fixed? Re the error in blog archives (leaf-links fail to point to document, always point to portal-catalog): All I've found so far is a somewhat

Re: proposal: KPLUG ssl CA to sign members cert

2007-02-13 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
John H. Robinson, IV wrote: James G. Sack (jim) wrote: Let's have a KPLUG (self-signed) CA KPLUG can/will sign member certs CAcert already does this, I am a CAcert assurer, and CAcert root certificates already exist in open source browsers. OK. it turns out I joined some time ago

Re: Fwd: InstallFests in February

2007-02-12 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: Carl Lowenstein wrote: Do we need to remove this person from the KPLUG mailing list, or just let him dangle in the wind? In case you missed it on the other list, I found this email address and unsubscribed the mailing list member. Ummm, did you unsubscribe the real

proposal: KPLUG ssl CA to sign members cert

2007-02-10 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Let's have a KPLUG (self-signed) CA KPLUG can/will sign member certs Possible uses: * client-cert authentication at our site for some (future) special access members may exchange certs for similar mutual auth (eg stunnel) nebulus KPLUG membership _status_ benefit == what else? there

Plone bug? [Fwd: www.kernel-panic.org hiccup]

2007-02-10 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
I've forwarding this from the main list to the steer list, in hopes of catching the eyes of Josh Tracy, and to allow for further discussion probably not of general interest to the main list subscribers. ---BeginMessage--- Since I'm maintaining a blog on the (hideously slow) KPLUG server, I notice

Re: missing object in plone

2007-01-08 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: I went into the site to create a document for a job posting sent to me, and there no longer is a document object. Tracy (or ?) can correct me if I have it wrong, but I believe you can use page wherever you used to use document. As I understand it, document and page were

Re: BookReview object

2007-01-04 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Carl Lowenstein wrote: On 1/4/07, James G. Sack (jim) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tracy R Reed wrote: Neil Schneider wrote: Thanks. We will have to keep an eye out to make sure we don't get a huge number of spamers setting up accounts on the site again. Is there a way that we can set

Re: January Meeting Topic

2006-12-30 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Gus Wirth wrote: John H. Robinson, IV wrote: Wow, what a horrible subject line. Sorry about that. At least I remembered to take out the In-Reply-To: header. -john John H. Robinson, IV wrote: Steerage, Do we have a topic for January? If so, is it on the website? (I never look at the

Re: Replacement KPLUG server

2006-12-21 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Gregory K. Ruiz-Ade wrote: On Dec 20, 2006, at 2:40 PM, James G. Sack (jim) wrote: New is definitely nice, but I agree with RE that we should consider simpler upgrade possibilities, and do some cost comparisons. The current KPLUG server is old enough that upgrades would likely cost enough

Zope/Plone got rolled back? -- was Re: BookReview object

2006-12-20 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: Tracy R Reed wrote: I finally got a round tuit and created us a nifty little BookReview object for the website in the form of a zope Product. It has fields for title, author, publisher, ISBN, a 1-5 rating, name of the reviewer, and of course a place for the body of

Re: Zope/Plone got rolled back? -- was Re: BookReview object

2006-12-20 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Tracy R Reed wrote: James G. Sack (jim) wrote: Did the database get rolled-back? Did the zope/plone updates go away? I think what happened is I was not aware that there were two fully functional zope installations on the site with a kplug instance in them. Zope 2.7 and Zope 2.8

Re: Replacement KPLUG server

2006-12-20 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
John H. Robinson, IV wrote: I have LogWatch logs going back to March 17. I suggest that such data might be of interest to future kplug-it-thropologists, and as such should be preserved, if the cost is not too great. ..j -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org

Re: Replacement KPLUG server

2006-12-20 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: Joshua Penix wrote: On Dec 18, 2006, at 8:14 PM, Andrew Lentvorski wrote: Personally, I would think that Joshua probably has the best perspective on ordering and maintaining a small server. Just to confirm, we're talking about replacing the current web server that I

Re: Replacement KPLUG server

2006-12-20 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the current one prone to failure? Hardware or software? Or not up to tasks it handles? If it's just a space issue, perhaps just replacing or adding disk space would be better for now? It's getting long in the tooth. I don't remember

Re: Treasurers report......??

2006-12-20 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: Randall Shimizu wrote: Has anyone given much thought to a informal audit showing the expenditures. We have to file a tax return annually or bi-annually. What kind of informal audit are you suggesting? If we create onerous auditing, those who volunteer to take care of

Re: Replacement KPLUG server

2006-12-20 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: James G. Sack (jim) wrote: .. ..something that provides value to the general community. That's another discussion, I guess. /aside Well, the point of the site, is to provide value to the general community. It's a place to save old presentations, howtos and other

Re: BookReview object

2006-12-20 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Tracy R Reed wrote: I finally got a round tuit and created us a nifty little BookReview object for the website in the form of a zope Product. It has fields for title, author, publisher, ISBN, a 1-5 rating, name of the reviewer, and of course a place for the body of the review. Let me know if

Re: BookReview object

2006-12-19 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Tracy R Reed wrote: I finally got a round tuit and created us a nifty little BookReview object for the website in the form of a zope Product. It has fields for title, author, publisher, ISBN, a 1-5 rating, name of the reviewer, and of course a place for the body of the review. Let me know if

December14 Meeting (was: InstallFest)

2006-12-03 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: No one has volunteered yet to do presentation(s) for December, .. Anyone want to volunteer for a presentation? The meeting is two weeks from tommorrow. Should be plenty of time to prepare. If no one has spoken up, I think I could ramble a bit about graphics tools

Re: Future of Pandora2

2006-11-15 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Carl Lowenstein wrote: I would like some suggestions for future use of Pandora2, the CD/DVD duplication system. Its current 60GB hard drive can hold 56 CD images, at the moment there are 49 installed. About half

Re: website -- new-user (join) still disabled

2006-11-06 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Joshua Penix wrote: On Nov 5, 2006, at 1:35 PM, James G. Sack (jim) wrote: Hmmm, anybody remember why this is still disabled? I know of at least one real person who wants in. Umm I think we were still just getting bulk robot signups that you were having to clear out, even though once

website -- new-user (join) still disabled

2006-11-05 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Hmmm, anybody remember why this is still disabled? I know of at least one real person who wants in. ..jim -- KPLUG-Steer@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer

Re: Web site configuration

2006-11-02 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: .. As long as the fonts are pretty similar in size throughout the site, then the visitor can adjust on their end, if they want the font larger or smaller. That's really is my point exactly. Many websites try to set absolute fontsizes, which in some cases defeats or

Re: Web site configuration

2006-11-01 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
James G. Sack (jim) wrote: Carl Lowenstein wrote: .. Comment on the general state of the web site as seen by the casual viewer. I just went there to verify the date of the next InstallFest. I find that the default font size is awfully small. I am looking at the page in a window about 12

Re: Web site configuration

2006-10-31 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Carl Lowenstein wrote: On 10/30/06, James G. Sack (jim) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James G. Sack (jim) wrote: .. A bit more on keywords: Keywords seems to be a somewhat immature feature. Keywords can be associated with (certain) objects by the object's _owner_ (not a siteadmin/manager

Re: Web site configuration

2006-10-30 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: .. In some views, specifically when clicking on the caledar to bring up an event, a related panel appears on the left. If there was a feature that connected related pages in a navigation panel, that might be useful to anonymous users coming to the site. Ummm

Re: Web site configuration

2006-10-30 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
James G. Sack (jim) wrote: .. A bit more on keywords: Keywords seems to be a somewhat immature feature. Keywords can be associated with (certain) objects by the object's _owner_ (not a siteadmin/manager or the site owner, I guess), in the properties tab shown to a user that has edit rights

Re: Web site configuration

2006-10-27 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
Neil Schneider wrote: Tracy R Reed wrote: Neil Schneider wrote: Any suggestions or instructions? I don't want to spend a day figuring out plone well enough to add this feature. Yes indeed. Move /jobs to some other name, create a smart folder called jobs to take its place. Go into the

Re: Web site configuration

2006-10-27 Thread James G. Sack (jim)
James G. Sack (jim) wrote: Neil Schneider wrote: Tracy R Reed wrote: Neil Schneider wrote: Any suggestions or instructions? I don't want to spend a day figuring out plone well enough to add this feature. Yes indeed. Move /jobs to some other name, create a smart folder called jobs to take

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