[libreoffice-l10n] Para Hyphenation No Last Word
Source string description: 8BFum Source string location: sw/inc/inspectorproperties.hrc:209 Para Hyphenation No Last Word What does this mean?: Does para mean paragraph? Does it mean "Don't hyphenate the last word of a paragraph"? Regards Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Localized Extensions Site
I have just realized that have not been receiving stuff from the website mailing list. This must be because I had to change ISP and email address in 2018 and forgot to change my login data. Now I can't even find the page eo.libreoffice.org/admin Has the way one interacts with Silverstripe been changed? To change my email in the website mailing subscription, will I have to create a new sign-on? -- Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Spell check on translation field
On 22/07/21 8:45 pm, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos wrote: Have you tried “apt install aspell-eo”? After a restart, the browser should pick it up I have installed aspell and rebooted. No difference. -- Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Spell check on translation field
On 22/07/21 3:07 am, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos wrote: Which browser do you use? I use either Firefox or Opera on LinuxMint. They both behave the same in this regard. -- Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-l10n] Spell check on translation field
When I am translating in Weblate, the field into which I am typing my translation (the field just below the English source string field) is always spell checked as English text, but it is in my language (Esperanto). I have looked for a way to set the language of the translation field but not found anything about it. It seems to be such an obvious thing to have. Is there somewhere it can be set? -- Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] BASIC vs. basic
I totally agree. The programming language is an acronym, BASIC (Beginners' All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code), so it should be all upper case. In LO sometimes it is not obvious whether 'Basic' refers to 'basic or BASIC. Thanks, Tuomas. Donald On 13/03/21 6:54 am, Tuomas Hietala wrote: Hello all, In LibreOffice, the programming language BASIC is mostly written as "Basic". This is a source of some confusion for translators (and I imagine many English-speaking users, too) as it's not always clear whether "Basic" should be interpreted as "basic" (a normal English word) or "BASIC" (the programming language). Is there any particular reason for the current convention? Microsoft seems to be doing the same, but I don't know if that's a good enough reason for perpetuating the confusion. Cheers, Tuomas -- Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-l10n] Functionality of Glossary in Weblate
I think that I am right in saying that in the past if I selected an item from the displayed Glossary suggestions, the text chosen appeared in the long field for my language just above "Needs editing" and the cursor was placed back in the field just after the retrieved text. Now when I select a suggestion, it appears in the long field where the cursor was, but the cursor disappears and anything I type goes too. Is this a new "feature" or a bug? It is inconvenient as I have to click on the field to get the cursor back. Regards Donald -- Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translation of 7.0 announcement
Please send me the text. I shall do the EO translation. Regards Donald On 29/07/20 8:02 pm, sophi wrote: Hi all, If you want to localize the 7.0 announcement and you're not on the marketing private list, let me know, I'll send it to you. Once translated, send it back to Italo, he has an international list of journalist to send it. The more translation we have, the better :-) Cheers Sophie -- Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Combine Weblate glossaries?
Yes. It is now working. Thanks, Christian. Is there an easy way to combine all glossaries for one language into one file and eliminate the duplicates? Donald On 7/07/20 11:14 pm, Tuomas Hietala wrote: Seems to work. Thanks! BR, Tuomas Christian Lohmaier kirjoitti 7.7.2020 12:26: On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 10:52 AM Tuomas Hietala wrote: In TDF Weblate, LO UI master and LO Online are different projects. This means the glossaries could not be shared previously. Weblate 4.1, however, introduced the ability to use glossaries across projects. TDF Weblate admins should just enable it. Just did that now... ciao Christian -- Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-l10n] Combine Weblate glossaries?
After working on LO UI Master in Weblate and entering lots of strings into the glossary, I have changed to editing LO Online. There appears to be no glossy entries available. The Help says: Glossaries are shared among all components of the same project and you can also choose to share them with another projects. Therefore I expected that the glossary entries that I have entered for the UI and for Help would be available for Online as well. Is there something I have to do for this to happen? -- Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] AoPeM strange text
Hi, Sophie I am not sure if I have the right link: Translation file eo/helpcontent2/source/text/shared/guide.po, string 719 If that is not the right one, can you find it from this text copied from the screen? French Cliquez sur l'icône Créer une requête en mode SQL id="img_id3154071" src="cmd/sc_dbnewquerysql.png" width="0.1862in" height="0.1862in">Icône ou sur Source string comment AoPeM Context: data_enter_sql.xhp par_id3151176 help.text English Click the Create Query in SQL View icon id="img_id3154071" src="cmd/sc_dbnewquerysql.png" width="0.1862in" height="0.1862in">Icon or -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-l10n] AoPeM strange text
In Weblate Source string comment AoPeM There appears to be something wrong with this text. It ends with "or", which is unlikely to be correct. Is the programmer trying to put together sentences from more than one element? I think that is to be avoided, as the resulting word order may be wrong. Click the Create Query in SQL View icon id="img_id3154071" src="cmd/sc_dbnewquerysql.png" width="0.1862in" height="0.1862in">Icon or -- Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate documentation on the wiki
I agree that the documentation should concentrate on LO in Weblate. I also want to know how Amagama fits in. The documentation that I read recently mentioned that the TM has been replaced by Amagama and that it appears under the MT button at the bottom of the edit field. I don't see that button. On the right is a section called Glossary. It seemed to have nothing in it when I started using Weblate, but now it has a few words. Maybe they are words it has deduced as I have entered them. I thought that the TM data were to be copied over to Weblate (Amagama?). That apparently did not happen for Esperanto. Regards Donald On 22/02/20 6:12 am, Tuomas Hietala wrote: Hi Sophie, I would prioritise information that is specific to LO/TDF and therefore isn't (and won't be) included in Weblate's documentation. For new translators, that would mean things like where to start, what to prioritise, who to contact in case there are problems, how the LO release process works, how/where to report errors in strings, what LO/TDF-specific settings or customisations are there in Weblate, etc. For translators who have participated in the Pootle era, a quick summary of the main differences between Pootle and Weblate might be useful. Also the names of the components can be quite confusing. It's hard to tell what something like nlpsolver/src/com/sun/star/comp/Calc/NLPSolver does, exactly. If it's not possible to add more descriptive names in Weblate, the current names should be explained in the wiki. Cheers, Tuomas sophi kirjoitti 20.2.2020 16:48: Hi all, For Pootle we had a guide here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/PootleGuide because there was no documentation on Pootle at the beginning. Do you think it's needed to have the same level of documentation for Weblate? There is already a help provided with the product, so I think to detail only our settings when they are specific or not obvious. What do you think? Cheers Sophie -- Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Esperanto spell checker
Andras, thanks for your reply. When we initiated the creation of the Esperanto and Afrikaans spelling data we were aware of one Esperanto implementation that was not actively maintained. We am now aware of three Esperanto implementations. So at this stage I will refrain from submitting a fourth Esperanto implementation. Seeing that Esperanto has regular conjugations, there can be various approaches to the creation of the ".aff" conjugation rules. A common flaw of the Esperanto spellcheck implementations is that they tend to produce false positives, especially when the ".aff" rules are complicated. Maybe some evaluation of the various Esperanto spellcheck implementations is needed ... Could you please help our participation by answering a few questions: 1) What is the "standard" way for an end-user to add/install a spellcheck language? 2) (How) Would an "upstream repository" become part of the "standard" install for an end-user? 3) What is a reasonable interval between the submission of spellcheck file updates? 4) Can these updates be submitted through the mailing list? Regards Donald On 28/03/19 12:04 PM, Andras Timar wrote: Hi Donald, On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 9:38 PM Donald <mailto:donr2...@fastmail.fm>> wrote: I noticed that there is no spell checker for Esperanto in LO. (I use the extension mentioned at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language_support_of_LibreOffice). It would be good if users could enable Esperanto spell checking in the same way that one can enable many other language. What is the relationship between (Hunspell) spell checkers and extensions in the same language? Esperanto is not mentioned on the Development/Dictionaries page: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Dictionaries or in the linked page: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/dictionaries/tree/ I can supply a pair of Hunspell files (.aff and .dic) for Esperanto based on the Esperanto thesaurus at PuzzleFoundry.com produced in collaboration with Kris van der Merwe. The .dic file contains over 26000 words. How should I proceed? You are right, there are many more dictionary extensions on various sites, than "internal" dictionaries in LibreOffice source code. For the internal dictionaries, the situation is different case by case. Sometimes the dictionary has an upstream repository, and maintainer send patch to LibreOffice or ask a developer to create a patch based on a new release. In other cases the dictionary was committed once and it is unmaintained in LibreOffice. In case of Esperanto, I see at least two upstream versions on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language_support_of_LibreOffice Did I understand you well, that you would like to submit a 3rd one? Best regards, Andras Timar -- Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-l10n] Esperanto spell checker
I noticed that there is no spell checker for Esperanto in LO. (I use the extension mentioned at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language_support_of_LibreOffice). It would be good if users could enable Esperanto spell checking in the same way that one can enable many other language. What is the relationship between (Hunspell) spell checkers and extensions in the same language? Esperanto is not mentioned on the Development/Dictionaries page: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Dictionaries or in the linked page: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/dictionaries/tree/ I can supply a pair of Hunspell files (.aff and .dic) for Esperanto based on the Esperanto thesaurus at PuzzleFoundry.com produced in collaboration with Kris van der Merwe. The .dic file contains over 26000 words. How should I proceed? Donald -- Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-l10n] Pootle discrepancy: which is wrong?
I am trying to translate in LibreOffice master UI. On this page: https://translations.documentfoundation.org/eo/libo_ui/ it says that sd has 22 incomplete sfx2 has 36 incomplete wizards has 9 incomplete but when I click on one of these numbers a blue message box pops up and it says "No results". Which is wrong: the numbers or the message? When I drilled down to sd/source/ui/app.po Pootle said had 18 incomplete. I downloaded the file and viewed it. It appeared to be complete, so I think the numbers are wrong and the "No results" message is correct. I am using Linux. I have tested it in Firefox and Brave browsers and got the same results. Regards Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Guides download website
Hi, Oliver
Could you please add Esperanto (EO) and give me assistance to setup the
page with the latest versions we have.
Regards
Donald
On 29/01/17 07:19, Olivier Hallot wrote:
> Em 28/01/2017 01:50, Donald escreveu:
>> What is to be the relationship between this new site for guides and the
>> existing one:
>> wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications/... ?
>>
>> Do we need to maintain both?
>>
>> Donald
>>
> Hello Donald
>
> Yes we maintain both.
>
> The new site is expected to be easier for users to get the Guides
> directly from LibreOffice Help menu (Help - User Guides...), and without
> having to Google about LO documentation or navigate in TDF wiki pages to
> get there. We valued a clean navigation with less dense textual content.
>
> The wiki page holds all published Guides, including ancient editions. We
> want the doc website to hold the most recent publications. Anyway if
> user wants an old guide he can get to the wiki page from our doc website
> ("Older guides").
>
> We expect to add value to the Guides written (and translated) by the
> community, and also advertise to join the documentation team.
>
> What is your feeling when hundreds of thousands or perhaps millions of
> users click in the new help menu and visit our new doc website?
>
> Kind regards
>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Guides download website
What is to be the relationship between this new site for guides and the existing one: wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications/... ? Do we need to maintain both? Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] blank string
On 06/12/16 23:59, Sophie wrote: > Hi Donald, > > Le 06/12/2016 à 04:19, Donald a écrit : >> What is the point of this string? It seems to be just a single space. In >> Pootle it shows up as a yellow rectangle with a red squiggle in it. >> >> Module UI sc >> Context: notebookbar_groups.ui growb label string.text >> Locations: notebookbar_groups.ui >> Comment: 4gFGS >> >> Also: kHPcr and maybe others. > > It has already been reported as a bug to the UX team. > Cheers > Sophie > Thanks, Sophie Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] blank string
What is the point of this string? It seems to be just a single space. In Pootle it shows up as a yellow rectangle with a red squiggle in it. Module UI sc Context: notebookbar_groups.ui growb label string.text Locations: notebookbar_groups.ui Comment: 4gFGS Also: kHPcr and maybe others. Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Formula names and accents or other signs
On 01/10/16 02:21, Sophie wrote: ... > Thanks for your feedback. For the moment, there is no script, I was only > discussing the possibility to have the "no signs else than dot" as a > rule or not, it appears that some languages have to keep accents (which > is not so surprising :). But if you want to write a script you're welcome :) In Esperanto (EO) the accents are essential. Missing them out often totally changes the meaning, e.g. celo = aim, purpose; ĉelo = cell salti = to jump; ŝalti = to switch Regards Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] 4.3 and 4.4 projects removal from Pootle
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[libreoffice-l10n] Syntax error in LO Help 5.0
Context: 04020100.xhp hd_id3157557 37 help.text Locations: 04020100.xhp ID: VAZtE This string lacks the final closing tag Sekcio so it should be Sekcio Regards Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Rochade
On 30/12/15 09:25, valterm...@libreoffice.org wrote: > Il 29/12/2015 10:33, Sveinn í Felli ha scritto: >> Þann þri 29.des 2015 06:53, skrifaði Donald: >>> What is Rochade? Is it translatable or a name? >>> >>> ID WKvMA >>> module UI officecfg >> >> It's one of the slide transitions in Impress, commented as >> "Effects.UserInterface.TransitionSets.rochade" in the po file. >> >> "Rochade" is a word from chess game, also called "castling", where you >> move together King and Rook and exchange their positions. Maybe >> "Rochade" is more used in international/European context, since it seems >> to be of French origin. >> >> The transition seems to imitate the movement involved. >> >> I translated this to the equivalent Icelandic chess definition >> "Hrókering". >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> Sveinn í Felli >> >> >> > > "Arrocco" in Italian > > Ciao > Thank you, Sveinn and Walter. I'll use "aroko" which is Esperanto for castling. Donaldo -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] Rochade
What is Rochade? Is it translatable or a name? ID WKvMA module UI officecfg Donaldo -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] emoji uniqueness?
Does each emoji string have to be unique? (I suppose so). Is there an automated test for uniqueness that will show up in the Fix critical errors column? The reason that I ask is that some of the English terms are so similar in meaning that I may have translated them to the same thing. I may need to add a digit to one of them. Regards Donaldo -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] ampersand translation, placeholders, arbitrary line breaks
On 18/06/15 18:37, Andras Timar wrote: Hi Donaldo, On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Donald donr2...@clear.net.nz wrote: 1. IMO translating amp; to a word which means and in the localization 2. In previous versions we took it that [None] was translatable. The You can silence warnings in Pootle. Press the (-) mark next to the error message beside the segment, and it will disappear and won't come back for that segment. Naturally, a human can judge better corner cases than a simple regexp matching algorithm. 3. What is the point of the second \n in this? I thought that the These are very old strings in source code, and breaking lines manually makes little sense today. You don't have to break your lines in your translation, of you don't like. Just silence the Pootle warning next to the segment. (I'm sure that someone will correct these en-US strings sometimes, giving work to all translator again ;) ). Regards, Andras Thank you, Andras. That hint is very useful. Donaldo -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] ampersand translation, placeholders, arbitrary line breaks
1. IMO translating amp; to a word which means and in the localization should not be categorized as a critical error. It is my understanding that ampersands are not used universally in all languages. We translated it as kaj in Esperanto, and I noticed that in the French localization, it has been translated as et. Pootle will not let me proceed unless I leave it as amp; This refers to element CgBtA 2. In previous versions we took it that [None] was translatable. The French tema have it as [Aucun(e)] Now we get the critical error message Placeholders e.g. Et2VB, LzHLo Also jWHaS [All] 3. What is the point of the second \n in this? I thought that the system itself would format the line in the optimum way depending on the user's font size, the width of the box etc. The page size and orientation have been modified.\n Would you like to save the new settings in the\n active document? This is element xFQ8K and nGgL8 Similarly: ene6E Regards Donaldo -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle test server - you absolutely must try to login
On 04/06/15 23:40, Dwayne Bailey wrote: Hi All, Thanks so much for the testing so far. The server has proved quite robust and we've fixed a few issues. We've made one last change which is an improvement to the login system. It's quite a large change and ideally we'd like to know what problems we face before we migrate next week. So if you currently have a login on the current Pootle server please try login on the new one. We expect some problems and we'd like to fix then on the current Pootle server if possible first. Note: 1. Require email validation - the new server requires email validation, we'd like to know that that works correctly. 2. Only one email - you can only have one account linked to one email address in our current setup. If you have duplicates we'd like to clean those up in the old server. So please one last round of testing to exercise the login system. I successfully logged in after I received the link by email. I then edited a few strings. All OK. Donaldo -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] meaning of scaled depth?
In UI svx/uiconfig/ui.po scaled depth (P9rCf) depth (BgFnq) This is not part of LO that I use. Can someone please briefly explain what this is about for translation purposes? I presume we are not scaling the depths of despair or suchlike. Is it to do with the grid spacing of a graph, or the amount by which something has been reduced in size, or something else? Donaldo -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] UI 4.4 error in English term fuchsia
That's good. Thank you. Regards Donaldo On 26/11/14 14:49, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos wrote: 2014-11-25 19:38 GMT-06:00 Donald donr2...@clear.net.nz: #. kidC6 #: smres.src msgctxt smres.src\n STR_FUCHSIA\n string.text msgid funchsia msgstr should be: msgid fuchsia This one was fixed by Stanislav: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=772befa08f02b08da1ab493896a0744bc73781c7 Adolfo -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] UI 4.4 error in English term fuchsia
#. kidC6 #: smres.src msgctxt smres.src\n STR_FUCHSIA\n string.text msgid funchsia msgstr should be: msgid fuchsia Donaldo -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] It seems that Pootle can't count (sometimes)
In this page https://translations.documentfoundation.org/eo/libo_ui/sfx2/source/ it says that file appl.po has 36 words that require translation. I clicked on the number 36 under Need translation and it said No results. I think that the message No results is correct, because I looked in the file with Virtaal and I did not see any untranslated strings. What should I do? Donaldo -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] It seems that Pootle can't count (sometimes)
On 05/12/13 13:02, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Is that because the translated strings still need to be verified or checked by a reviewer or someone? Regards from Tom :) On 4 December 2013 23:32, Donald donr2...@clear.net.nz wrote: In this page https://translations.documentfoundation.org/eo/libo_ui/sfx2/source/ it says that file appl.po has 36 words that require translation. I clicked on the number 36 under Need translation and it said No results. I think that the message No results is correct, because I looked in the file with Virtaal and I did not see any untranslated strings. What should I do? Donaldo When the mouse is hovering over the 36, it says: 36 words untranslated 0 words need review. Donaldo -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Bugs to fix in translations
On 20/08/13 09:27, Andras Timar wrote: Hi, Pootle has many checks, but there are cases which are not covered. You may remember the style name localization issue from last month. Therefore I wrote a tool which checked three types of translation errors: 1. Unique style names. 2. Unique spreadsheet function names. 3. Missing trailing '|' in Windows installer translation. I uploaded the report to http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/error-report/report.txt I checked 4.1.1 sources. Affected locales are: af am ast be bn bn-IN bo br brx bs cy da de dgo dz el en-ZA eo es eu fa fr gl gu he hi hr id it ka kk km kn ko kok ks ku lb lo lt mai mk ml mn mni mr my nb ne nl nn nr nso oc om or pa-IN pl pt ro rw sa-IN sat sd si sid sq ss st sv sw-TZ ta tg th tn tr ts tt ug uz ve vi xh zu You may want to fix these bugs quickly, because they cause runtime errors. Unfortunately some locales are unmaintaned. We need to fix those some day. Many times it does not require knowledge of the particular language. Best regards, Andras Thanks for doing that. You reported that in EO, NESIMETRIECO is duplicated, but Pootle did not find it (I presume it is the UI of 4.1) I have grep-ed my local copy of the files for it and not found it. Where I should look for it? Regards Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Bugs to fix in translations
On 20/08/13 20:27, Andras Timar wrote: Hi, On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Donald donr2...@clear.net.nz wrote: Thanks for doing that. You reported that in EO, NESIMETRIECO is duplicated, but Pootle did not find it (I presume it is the UI of 4.1) I have grep-ed my local copy of the files for it and not found it. Where I should look for it? https://translations.documentfoundation.org/eo/libo_ui/translate.html#search=NESIMETRIECOsfields=target I found that you translated SKEW and SKEWP as NESIMETRIECO. Cheers, Andras Thank you. Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Sort order in alphabetical index in localized LibreOffice
On 19/06/13 01:30, Eike Rathke wrote: Hi Martin, On Saturday, 2013-06-15 11:17:10 +0200, Martin Srebotnjak wrote: I noticed that in Slovenian LO, will check again and report here, in Slovenian the problem was that special letters č, š and ž get at the end of alphabet (and not č after c, š after s and ž after z). If this is true then maybe sorting for more non-English languages is not working ... Hum.. that should not happen.. sl_SI.xml: IndexKey phonetic=false default=true unoid=alphanumericA-C Č Ć D Đ E-S Š T-Z Ž/IndexKey Just to make sure, we are talking about Writer's index feature here, not general sorting, yes? Eike Yes. It's what you get on the menu in Writer: Insert Indexes and tables Indexes and tables Type = Alphabetical index Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Uploading LO User Guides
Hi, Sophie On 27/05/13 18:11, Sophie Gautier wrote: Hi Donald, On 27/05/2013 01:50, Donald Rogers wrote: Hi everyone Could someone please explain how and where to upload the User Guides ODT and PDF files for languages other than English? How is it that the files athttps://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications have paths such as this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/d/d8/GS4001-IntroducingLibreOffice.odt while the code has: [[Media:GS4001-IntroducingLibreOffice.odt|ODT]] ornbsp; ? The documentation using_odfauthors.odt only talks about the English version. I want to know what the localization teams do. You can build a wiki area in your language and place the documentation there. This is what we have done for the FR documentation (see https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications/fr#Guides_utilisateur_officiels) At the top of most of the pages on the wiki, you have a language code: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation and don't forget to create a Category for your language. Kind regards Sophie Thank you, especially for your comment about creating a category page. I had not done that previously but it is pretty painless to do. The upload just worked, and it sorted out those strange paths automagically. I added three pages based on the relevant EN and FR pages: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications/eo https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/eo https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Category:EO When I uploaded the ODT and PDF files I was asked to choose a copyright type. I chose Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/, I presume that is okay? When I uploaded a PDF file the Wiki complained that the file had the same name as the previous ODT file (different extension of course) but I ignored that. Regards Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Uploading LO User Guides
Hi Tom I suggest that the prompt be made more helpful, including that the warning can be ignored if the extensions are different or the user wants to replace the file with a new version. I leave the wording to someone who knows all the ins and outs. Regards Donald On 29/05/13 02:13, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Sorry about the wiki grumbling about using the same name (with different extension). It seemed to work out just fine. I can click on each one and they each open in the right way for their type so neither got over-written. Regards from Tom :) *From:* Donald Rogers donr2...@clear.net.nz *To:* l10n@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Tuesday, 28 May 2013, 11:01 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Uploading LO User Guides Hi, Sophie Thank you, especially for your comment about creating a category page. I had not done that previously but it is pretty painless to do. The upload just worked, and it sorted out those strange paths automagically. I added three pages based on the relevant EN and FR pages: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications/eo https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/eo https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Category:EO When I uploaded the ODT and PDF files I was asked to choose a copyright type. I chose Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/, I presume that is okay? When I uploaded a PDF file the Wiki complained that the file had the same name as the previous ODT file (different extension of course) but I ignored that. Regards Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] Uploading LO User Guides
Hi everyone Could someone please explain how and where to upload the User Guides ODT and PDF files for languages other than English? How is it that the files at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications have paths such as this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/d/d8/GS4001-IntroducingLibreOffice.odt while the code has: [[Media:GS4001-IntroducingLibreOffice.odt|ODT]] ornbsp; ? The documentation using_odfauthors.odt only talks about the English version. I want to know what the localization teams do. Regards Donald -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] Sort order in alphabetical index in localized LibreOffice
Hi I removed a previous version and installed LibreOffice version 4.0.2.2 on Linux Ubuntu 10.04 from ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-0. I also installed the Esperanto language pack (libreoffice-l10n-eo). The spell checker works for Esperanto. In ordinary tables the sort order (Tools Sort...) works correctly. I am editing a translation of the user guide GS4002-SettingUpLibreOffice.odt. I created an alphabetical index at the end of the document to check that I had translated all the anchors and cross-references. It sorts the entries into a wrong order. The document language is set to Esperanto and the language of the index is set to Esperanto. Here is an extract from the last part of the index. Note that ĝ should go after g, ŝ after s. Why do they, and presumably other accented letters, go between v and x? tiparo anstataŭigoj 13 aspekto 8 historio 8 tondejo 9 vortarojn instali 25 ĝenerale apriora dosiera formato ODF-formato, versio de 21 OpenDocument Format 21 Optimumigi la grandon 21 Ĉiam konservi kiel 21 Apriora dosiera formato kaj ODF-agordoj 21 AŭtomataRiparo 21 Konservi informon pri Aŭtomata Riparo post ĉiu__Minutoj 21 Konservi URL-ojn relative al dosiera sistemo / Interreto 21 Redakti dokumentajn atributojn antaŭ konservado 20 Ĉiam krei restaŭran kopion 21 Ŝargi presilajn agordaĵojn kun la dokumento 20 Ŝargi proprajn agordaĵojn kun la dokumento 20 Ŝargi/Konservi Konservi originan Basic-kodon 22 Microsoft Office-dosierokonvertado 22 Rulebla kodo 22 Tiparaj grandoj 24 VBA-atributoj, ŝargi/konservi 22 Ŝargi Basic-kodon 22 XML-dosieroj Do other languages have this problem? Is it to do with the locale definition? (If so why does it sort ordinary tables correctly?) Regards Donald Rogers -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site
Hi, Tom Thank you for your extensive explanation. Your comments on the Getting Started Guide are very helpful. Our team has never completed the help localization, even in earlier years (OOO) when we had a much bigger team. I doubt that we will ever catch up. 437219 words are a lot of words! I have had another look at the Documentation page of the Wiki and the ODFAuthors page. It is not clear to me whether these relate only to the English documentation, or whether they include the localization of those documents. Localization seems to be not covered. You know those items in the help that look like this? bookmark_valueformatting styles; styles and templates/bookmark_value bookmark_valuestyles; styles and templates/bookmark_value bookmark_valueorganizing; templates (guide)/bookmark_value bookmark_valuetemplates; organizing (guide)/bookmark_value I guess that they are used to construct the help index. Is there any documentation on this? We seem to have to guess how the users might enter index terms. If, instead, we could have a full word search, like Google does, we would not need these bookmark_value elements, and that would save us a heap of time! Regards Donald -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site
Hi Christian Thank you and Adolfo for your replies. My main point was simply the huge amount of work and that small teams are trying to do. (EO team in my case). Obviously we have to prioritize our tasks. I am trying to get a better feel for what is most important. We have the UI done, but the help is at about 40% done. I have stopped working on it because I found that some of the menus have changed in LO 4.0 and I personally don't want to translate stuff now and have to do it again when the help has been updated for v 4.0. On 18/02/2013, at 1:15 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi Donald, On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Donald Rogers donr2...@clear.net.nz wrote: It seems to me that there is a lot of duplication of effort and fragmentation of the help. We have at least the following: LO Help from the Help menu help.libreoffice.org Those are identical. That's the whole point of help.libreoffice.org That's good. (I mostly use the menu help) wiki.documentfoundation.org this is more developer / active contributer oriented and less for endusers, although stuff is published there. But there's another discussion (or actually in this thread, I lost track) about not abusing wiki to publish large files, etc. the guides FAQ How can these be extra points when these are hosted on the mentioned sites? They all add to the work that could be done. ask.libreoffice.org A user-helps-user platform, no static documentation, but answeres/solutions for specific problems. You cannot cover every cornercase in regular documentation. accessibility info features See above, not really belong here as separate points, as they are found on sites. Otherwise you could just make separate bulletpoints for whetever you like. But the new-features page surely is also a marketing tool. installation instructions Nobody reads those anyway :-) But what is wrong with having those? I am not saying there is anything wrong with having them. They have to be accessible before installing LO, so obviously aren't part of the menu help. mailing lists similar to ask.libreoffice.org, but most mailinglists are for coordination of active contributors. And while ask.libreoffice.org is fine for easy problems, more complex ones are better off on the maiing list. Nabble That's just an interface to the mailinglists. Not everybody likes using their mailclient. And you forgot gmane/newsgroup interface, that also is an additional way to access/participate in the mailing lists. IRC (near) real-time discussion - so again a different scope, useful for different stuff than the other ways to get help. You did happily mix passive sources of information with interactive stuff... Each has a separate focus, as I see it. The guides are very good but to localize them requires not just translation and adaption, but also all the screen shots and other pictures need to be redone for each language. This would be a huge task. There are no guides yet for version 4.0. I just checked. EN has guides for 3.4, 3.5, 3.6 or 4.0, and ID has the full set of about 80 documents for LO 3.3, 3.4 or 3.5. FR has 36 (by my count) for LO 3.5 or 3.6. All other languages apparently have none. (I looked on wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications/fr and equivalent pages.) The principles of usage are the same, so no big deal really... And whether you do the screen shots or not is also a matter of taste... But doing screenshots of dialogs is getting easier and easier thanks to the gladification of the UI. What is gladification? If we are to continue to have both the Help menu help and help.libreoffice.org help, can someone write some code to generate the help.libreoffice.org help from the same .po files that are used for the Help menu help? That was already answered help.libreoffice.org is what is in the help-module. What sort of help is meant to be in the wiki? See above. I see it mainly as a source for information for active contributors/developers, less so for the enduser. Is there any possible synergy between the FAQ and ask.libreoffice.org? Are they to be localized too? well, apart from people monitoring what kind of questions get asked the most on ask.libreoffice.org, there is no synergy. Questions are too widespread/too special in most cases. LO apparently doesn't have the people power to keep even the English helps up to date, let alone all the other languages. Some of the localization teams are very small and can't keep up with even one of the help systems. Please explain / give an example what you are talking about here. I hate statements like that. LO is about to publish version 4.0.1 but we have not yet finished the help for 4.0.0. The Wiki is easier to work with than the CMS. What CMS please. There are tons of them. I refered to the Silverstripe CMS that we use in xx.libreoffice.org. This is not an important point, and I am
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site
It seems to me that there is a lot of duplication of effort and fragmentation of the help. We have at least the following: LO Help from the Help menu help.libreoffice.org wiki.documentfoundation.org the guides FAQ ask.libreoffice.org accessibility info features installation instructions mailing lists Nabble IRC The guides are very good but to localize them requires not just translation and adaption, but also all the screen shots and other pictures need to be redone for each language. This would be a huge task. There are no guides yet for version 4.0. If we are to continue to have both the Help menu help and help.libreoffice.org help, can someone write some code to generate the help.libreoffice.org help from the same .po files that are used for the Help menu help? What sort of help is meant to be in the wiki? Is there any possible synergy between the FAQ and ask.libreoffice.org? Are they to be localized too? Short extract from Zeki's email: Then one can start talking about other kinds of help etc. As i said, we shouldn't separate them or put them in order. Help is needed an it is served in multiple ways, the problem is awareness and promoting people to use them in any way which suits their needs. ...we all know that LibreOffice has a restricted manpower and other critical priorities. This kind of implementation may never come into life,... LO apparently doesn't have the people power to keep even the English helps up to date, let alone all the other languages. Some of the localization teams are very small and can't keep up with even one of the help systems. The Wiki is easier to work with than the CMS. Up 'til now I have mainly used the Help menu help, and the separate sources for installation etc. Regards Donald -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Insert button in Insert Table dlg
Hi The Insert button is in English in the Esperanto interface of RC2. Martin is right about the shortcut keys for OSX. Regards Donald On 28/01/2013, at 5:18 AM, Martin Srebotnjak wrote: Hi, I have it translated. But I noticed something else, not regarding translation - that the Fx shortcuts are all wrong in OSX menus (for Insert Table it says cmd-signF12, but it should be Fn-signcmd-signF12). BTW, I am not using Pootle. Lp, m. 2013/1/27 Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.com: Hi all, I found another string still in English (4.0RC2) in the Insert Table dialog (Ctrl+F12). The Insert button is in English. Do you get it too ? Kind regards Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Membership Certification Committee Member - Co-founder The Document Foundation -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Some locales miss localization for Extension Manager
Hi, Minkel You are correct: the Esperanto version is affected as you described. Donald On 16/01/2013, at 7:41 AM, Mihkel Tõnnov wrote: Hi all, I filed a bug for partly missing localization for Extension Manager with some locales: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59433 Could you confirm this problem (on RC 1), and possibly add more affected/unaffected languages there? Best regards, Mihkel Estonian team -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Are download and upload symmetrical in Pootal?
On 31/12/2012, at 3:09 PM, Donald Rogers wrote: I wanted to edit some of the po files in the top level of help (e.g. auxilliary.po), so I downloaded the file libo_help-eo from the libo_help page. I extracted, edited, rearchived the files, and uploaded them to the same page. Instead of merging the files back it has created a whole new branch called libo_help-eo. What should I do now? Is there a facility in the new version of Pootal to upload individual po files? Regards Donaldo Okay. I found where to upload individual files, and I uploaded the three files I had edited. That's fixed. Now, how to delete the unwanted libo_help-eo ? When I go into the folder of that name should I click on Delete this folder...? (Just checking before I hit it). Donaldo -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] Are download and upload symmetrical in Pootal?
I wanted to edit some of the po files in the top level of help (e.g. auxilliary.po), so I downloaded the file libo_help-eo from the libo_help page. I extracted, edited, rearchived the files, and uploaded them to the same page. Instead of merging the files back it has created a whole new branch called libo_help-eo. What should I do now? Is there a facility in the new version of Pootal to upload individual po files? Regards Donaldo -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LO 3.6
Use Pootle to search for SC_OPCODE_BITOR or the other one in the location field (drop list on search field). Donald On 18/06/2012, at 8:42 PM, Dimitris Spingos wrote: SC_OPCODE_BITOR -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translation errors before 3.6.0 beta2
On 18/06/2012, at 7:20 AM, Andras Timar wrote: Hi, I'd like to update translations in git tomorrow for the 3.6.0 beta2 release. Please find the error logs at http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/errorlog/ Please correct errors in Pootle, especially the fatal errors. Done for EO Donald -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Website maintainers
On 23/05/2012, at 8:17 PM, Andras Timar wrote: 2012.05.23. 0:49 keltezéssel, Donald Rogers írta: On 22/05/2012, at 8:36 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote: Hi all, Please, fill the table of website maintainers with your name on this page or ask your website team to do it. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Web_Sites_services#General Thanks in advance for your help. Kind regards Sophie Which signon does one need for this? I have a sign-on for translations.documentfoundation.org and one for eo.libreoffice.org/admin. How many more does one need? At least one more: for the Wiki. :) However, if you don't want to register, I can put your details there. Best regards, Andras I have created an account for the Wiki and edited the form. Thanks for your help. Donald -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Website maintainers
On 22/05/2012, at 8:36 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote: Hi all, Please, fill the table of website maintainers with your name on this page or ask your website team to do it. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Web_Sites_services#General Thanks in advance for your help. Kind regards Sophie Which signon does one need for this? I have a sign-on for translations.documentfoundation.org and one for eo.libreoffice.org/admin. How many more does one need? Donald -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] Terminology
Could someone generate a new terminology file (eo.po) for Esperanto, please? The present one contains some errors, including words which Search does not find anywhere. Donald Rogers -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translation bugs to fix for LibreOffice 3.5.4
On 14/05/12 08:42, Andras Timar wrote: Hi, Please fix bugs in Pootle. http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/errorlog/ Thanks, Andras Hi, Andras Bug fixed in Pootle for eo. Regards Donald -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] Esperanto translation team administration
Hi, Rimas et al I have been the main person working on the Esperanto translation in the last three months. The team's contact person, Michael Moroni, has not responded to my emails, so would you please give me publish and admin privileges so that I can edit the eo.libreoffice.org pages and administer the Pootle files (username donaldo in both)? I am recruiting another translator (maybe two) for the team. Regards Donald Rogers -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Strings still in English
On 5/01/2012, at 8:13 AM, Andras Timar wrote: 2012/1/4 Donald Rogers donr2...@clear.net.nz: On 1/01/2012, at 8:58 AM, Donald Rogers wrote: Hi I am testing in LO beta2 on Mac, using the Esperanto modules. When I choose the (Equivalent of) the File menu, then Save as... I get the dialog box Save title untranslated with the field labels Save as and Where untranslated. Is this a known bug? The other strings, the ones in the inner box, File Type: etc, are translated. The same sort of thing happens on the Export dialog box. Also on the Open dialog box, the title Open, New Folder and Cancel are untranslated. On the Print box: Print, Printer, Presets, Preview, Cancel, Print are untranslated. On the Print box that appears after you select Print, also. On Edit/Compare documents, Insert box: New Folder, Cancel are untranslated. Donald Has anyone checked to see if this happens in other languages? Those strings are coming from the system, not from LibreOffice. Does that mean that we can't do anything about it? Donald -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translate: Knbn
On 3/01/2012, at 7:46 PM, Andras Timar wrote: Hi Donald, 2012/1/3 Donald Rogers donr2...@clear.net.nz: On 3/01/2012, at 7:11 AM, Nguyễn Vũ Hưng wrote: Hello all, Please anyone tell me how to translate Knbn in LO? It appears here: https://translations.documentfoundation.org/vi/libo35x_ui/sfx2/source/translate.html?unitstates=fuzzy,untranslated Hi I would be interested to read an expert's answer on what is going on here. Sometimes it seems that the msgstr is pre-filled with a lot of random junk. In this case: #-#-#-#-# index.po (PACKAGE VERSION) #-#-#-#-#\n Tùy chọn\n #-#-#-#-# chrdlg.po (PACKAGE VERSION) #-#-#-#-#\n Tùy chọn\n etc etc I interpreted this sort of thing as rubbish, deleted it all, and replaced it with the translation of the word Options. I compared it with what has been done in the French translation, and that is what they have done too. It is not rubbish, it tells the translator in its imperfect way that the word Options was translated as Tùy chọn in index,po, as Tùy chọn chrdlg.po etc. Somewhere below there will be a different translation, this is why the pomigrate2 tool lists all occurrences. Translator can decide what the correct translation is, and replace the list with the correct translation. Best regards, Andras Thanks, Andras. I hoped there was a logical explanation, but it never occurred to me that it was useful stuff. Donald -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Online update service + localized download URLs
On 3/01/2012, at 10:42 AM, Jan Holesovsky wrote: ... Please - can you fill in the following form for your language, and send back to me? Language: [lang code, like 'en', 'fr', 'de', ...] Download page: [equivalent of http://www.libreoffice.org/download/] Pre-release download page: [equivalent of http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/] [example for German language: Language: de Download page: http://de.libreoffice.org/download/ Pre-release download page: http://de.libreoffice.org/download/testversionen/ ]... Language: eo Download page: http://eo.libreoffice.org/elsxuti/ Pre-release download page: we don't seem to have a page for this. I just downloaded the beta versions from ...pre-releases (above). Is there some procedure we have to go through to get this type of page? Donald -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] Strings still in English
Hi I am testing in LO beta2 on Mac, using the Esperanto modules. When I choose the (Equivalent of) the File menu, then Save as... I get the dialog box Save title untranslated with the field labels Save as and Where untranslated. Is this a known bug? The other strings, the ones in the inner box, File Type: etc, are translated. The same sort of thing happens on the Export dialog box. Also on the Open dialog box, the title Open, New Folder and Cancel are untranslated. On the Print box: Print, Printer, Presets, Preview, Cancel, Print are untranslated. On the Print box that appears after you select Print, also. On Edit/Compare documents, Insert box: New Folder, Cancel are untranslated. Donald -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] Re: Digest of l10n@global.libreoffice.org issue 393 (3731-3732)
On 30/12/2011, at 10:00 PM, l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org wrote: Topics (messages 3731 through 3732): [libreoffice-l10n] KeyID 9vn1 and friends not found in Pootle / pot file 3731 - Korrawit Pruegsanusak detective.conan.1...@gmail.com [libreoffice-l10n] l10n bugs to fix for LibreOffice 3.5.0 beta3 3732 - F Wolff frie...@translate.org.za From: Korrawit Pruegsanusak detective.conan.1...@gmail.com Date: 30 December 2011 5:22:17 AM NZDT To: l10n@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] KeyID 9vn1 and friends not found in Pootle / pot file Reply-To: l10n@global.libreoffice.org Hello Andras, On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 04:28, Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com wrote: Common context menu items often come from svx/inc.po. Sorry for my late reply. Anyway, thank you! Best Regards, -- Korrawit Pruegsanusak -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted From: F Wolff frie...@translate.org.za Date: 30 December 2011 9:35:17 PM NZDT To: l10n@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] l10n bugs to fix for LibreOffice 3.5.0 beta3 Reply-To: l10n@global.libreoffice.org Op Di, 2011-12-20 om 09:27 +1300 skryf Donald Rogers: Fatal errors for eo fixed. In the reviews what does this mean: acronyms ... failed? Hallo Donald It is a test that tries to warn of changed acronyms. It doesn't necessarily indicate a problem, but might be worth reviewing. More details here: http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/toolkit/pofilter_tests#acronyms There are descriptions for all the quality checks. I hope that helps. Keep well Friedel Thanks for that information. There does not seem to be a link to that page from http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/toolkit/index so I hadn't seen it 'till now. Donald -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] l10n bugs to fix for LibreOffice 3.5.0 beta3
On 20/12/2011, at 2:59 AM, Andras Timar wrote: Hi, Today I exported updated po files from Pootle and pushed them to git to the translations module. The next push will take place three weeks from, for LibreOffice 3.5.0 beta3. Meanwhile, could you all please fix bugs in your translations? :) Fatal errors: de eo eu fi nl pt pt-BR tr vi I corrected them in git as I could, but please correct them in Pootle, too. Non-fatal errors: bg cs da de en-GB eo eu fi ne nl pl pt-BR pt ru sk tr vi Log files (from all tools) and error files (from gsicheck tool): http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/errorlog/ Hi Would it be possible to generate these log and err files in utf-8? At present they stuff up the Unicode characters. For instance, in http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/errorlog/eo.err: vidigi la alÅutitan vikipaÄon should be vidigi la alŝutitan vikipaĝon Donald -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] l10n bugs to fix for LibreOffice 3.5.0 beta3
On 29/12/2011, at 9:17 AM, Mihkel Tõnnov wrote: Hi, 2011/12/28 Donald Rogers donr2...@clear.net.nz On 20/12/2011, at 2:59 AM, Andras Timar wrote: Hi, Today I exported updated po files from Pootle and pushed them to git to the translations module. The next push will take place three weeks from, for LibreOffice 3.5.0 beta3. Meanwhile, could you all please fix bugs in your translations? :) Fatal errors: de eo eu fi nl pt pt-BR tr vi I corrected them in git as I could, but please correct them in Pootle, too. Non-fatal errors: bg cs da de en-GB eo eu fi ne nl pl pt-BR pt ru sk tr vi Log files (from all tools) and error files (from gsicheck tool): http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/errorlog/ Hi Would it be possible to generate these log and err files in utf-8? At present they stuff up the Unicode characters. For instance, in http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/l10n/errorlog/eo.err: vidigi la alÅ utitan vikipaÄ on should be vidigi la alŝutitan vikipaĝon It’s shown correctly here. Your browser/text-editor probably chooses the wrong encoding -- I got the result you described when I manually set the encoding to ISO 8859-1 (i.e. Western European), UTF-8 displayed everything fine. Thanks, Mihkel and Christian. I should have thought of that. Donald -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] compound strings
On 29/12/2011, at 2:52 PM, Mihkel Tõnnov wrote: Hi Milos, Martin, *, 2011/12/29 Martin Srebotnjak mi...@filmsi.net: 2011/12/28 Martin Srebotnjak mi...@filmsi.net 2011/12/28 Milos Sramek sramek.mi...@gmail.com Hi, I have in the new Header/Footer feature of 3.5 for the first time noticed compound strings consisting of two separately translated strings. For example, Format Header is composed of strings Format (KeyId _XDs) and Header (b4n3). Slovak (and other languages) have cases - the Header word must be in the accusative case here. Are we sure that the b4n3 Header string is used only in such context and not in other, where for example, the nominative case should be used? I would prefer to not to compound strings of other strings. What do you think about that? Can we send this message to the developers? Hi, I haven't noticed that, this should be marked, explained in notes, if sdf had those... Will check, but why is this not a single string? Does that mean that also Format Footer is formed from two strings? This is unacceptable and anglo-saxon-centric, really does not work well for other languages. OMG, now I saw it, this is horrible - each context menu command must be a separate string, you cannot format context menu commands in the same manner for 100+ languages! Thanks, Milos, for noticing this. See also this thread: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/msg03406.html I agree that composing strings in such a manner is not okay, and should it become a habit with the devs, it's a disaster waiting to strike. Another such case: 7yKt + btRK = Insert + Rows 7yKt + xGzB = Insert + Columns (make a table in Writer, right-click in it, choose Row - Insert or Column - Insert, and behold the dialog title.) I'm not sure if there are more. Yes, the same happens in the Esperanto version. It does not even put a space between the two words, and the case of the second is wrong (naturally). On the other hand, is this a mechanism for developers to save us lots of work, retranslating the same strings over and over, e.g. OK, Cancel? Donald -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] How does one find specific strings in the po files?
On 18/12/2011, at 12:55 AM, Sérgio Marques wrote: One thing that would also be useful is the ability of ignore accelerators. If one wants to find Open and the word is O~pen, the second won´t appear on the search. This is definitely annoying and contra producing. This feature is a must have for search function. What do You guys think about it? I think this is already filed as http://bugs.locamotion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=327 ? Hi Rimas Yes, I´ve already saw this entry but I think that it´s the opposite. The title says Ensure that searching in Pootle *takes accelerators into account *(my bold) With this title I guess (don´t know for sure) that the accelerator must be taken in order to achieve results. What I meant was Ensure that searching in Pootle *don´t* take accelerators into account So when I write Open, O~pen; Op~en and Ope~n appear in search. Or am I getting this the wrong way? -- Sérgio Marques Hello pogrep has an option to cope with accelerators, so it should be possible to use that switch in Pootle search too. takes accelerators into account probably means use the pogrep switch for accelerators, which does what you want. It does sound ambiguous, I agree. You could try using pogrep directly, as proposed by Olav Dahlum (2011-12-17) in this thread. I tried it and it is useful. Donald -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] How does one find specific strings in the po files?
Thanks, Andras You said in the bug page (below): It happens when you use LibreOffice in other language than your system locale. I always have that situation, and probably most Esperanto speakers would have another language that they use. I don't understand what you mean by select the KeyID language I don't know what po-file the strings mentioned are in, so I don't know the KeyID. In the drop down list of the search field in Pootle there is an option Locations. Is that where to put (a) known KeyID(s)? On the matter of searching for a particular string, I found that searching for Open... is problematic because the search program trims the dots off and one cannot specify entire words only, so I got openoffice, OpenGL etc - too many hits. Where is the place to propose an enhancement of this type? Do you think that it would be useful? Regards Donald On 16/12/2011, at 10:07 PM, Andras Timar wrote: Hi Donald, 2011/12/16 Donald Rogers donr2...@clear.net.nz: Saluton When LO starts up there is a splash screen with Libreoffice 3 The Document Foundation and a progress worm, and then another splash screen with Libreoffice 3 The Document Foundation Text DocumentDrawing... etc, finishing with Open...Templates... Is there any documentation on how to find where these strings are in the UI po files? In the Esperanto version of 3.5.0 beta, the strings Open... Templates... are untranslated, and I have not succeeded in finding them. I used Pootle to search every instance in UI of Templates and failed to find any that are untranslated. In general, you can select the KeyID language, read the KeyID and look for that KeyID in Pootle, but in this particular case it wull not work, because of https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=43475 So, it is a known bug. You probably have those strings translated in Pootle. Best regards, Andras -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] How does one find specific strings in the po files?
Saluton When LO starts up there is a splash screen with Libreoffice 3 The Document Foundation and a progress worm, and then another splash screen with Libreoffice 3 The Document Foundation Text DocumentDrawing... etc, finishing with Open...Templates... Is there any documentation on how to find where these strings are in the UI po files? In the Esperanto version of 3.5.0 beta, the strings Open... Templates... are untranslated, and I have not succeeded in finding them. I used Pootle to search every instance in UI of Templates and failed to find any that are untranslated. Thanks Donald -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] The translation of Sheet1
Hi I have read the wiki page on Translation for 3.5: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.5 What happens as the bug fixes to code are made and there may be changes to UI strings? Do they put the new strings into PO files and update the ones in LO 3.5.x in each language area? Where to we translators work during the release process? How do we know when there is work to do on the release? Donald -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
