RE: [labradoodles] Advice on Electric trainers and/or fences
There is one that is mobile and has no wires, just a base and a collar. Kind of like a cordless phone. I think that would be great for a large yard and just one dog. Sorry I don't know who makes it. Here is a link to a thread on another forum that discussed different systems. http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=141437;article=327440;title=Doodl e%20Discussion%20Forum -Original Message- From: labradoodles@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of buttafamily5 Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:04 AM To: labradoodles@yahoogroups.com Subject: [labradoodles] Advice on Electric trainers and/or fences Hi all, We have a very quiet large yard bordered by woods and a golf course -- but I still need to have the peace of mind of keeping Dempsey from wandering off now that spring is here and we will be spending more time outside. So I am looking at different containment systems, but there are so many and I find it all a bit over-whelming. There are the buried wire invisible fencing type with the collar. Like this: http://www.petsmart.com/global/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524 441775933FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302032911ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534 374302023689bmUID=1175002906655itemNo=0In=DogN=2032911Ne=2 http://www.petsmart.com/global/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552 4441775933FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302032911ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=253 4374302023689bmUID=1175002906655itemNo=0In=DogN=2032911Ne=2 OR this: http://www.gundogsupply.com/prf-3004w-.html http://www.gundogsupply.com/prf-3004w-.html OR the hand-held remote type of trainers like this: http://www.gundogsupply.com/iut-300.html http://www.gundogsupply.com/iut-300.html I like the price of the walkie-talkie type. But I want something that if I'm not watching him every second while outside, it will keep him in the yard. I'm not sure if these do that. Does anyone know the difference and can advise as to what brand or what exactly will work for us. Dempsey is about 25 pounds and generally stays with us when outside, but if something catches his interest, like a bird or a blowing leaf, he will start to get further away. An actual fence is not practical for us. I know someone here was talking about this earlier. Thanks so very much! I can't wait to let him romp outside when the mud dries and the temps warm a little! Donna Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/labradoodles/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/labradoodles/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [labradoodles] Advice on Electric trainers and/or fences
The only thing that I can say about underground fencing is to make sure that you do a VERY good job of training him to the boundaries. Countless dogs come into the shelters with electric fence collars on because the dog ran out chasing something (the prey drive overcame the fear of the shock) and then they are afraid to come back into the yard. I have also known a few people who, after the dog was shocked once wouldn't go outside for fear of being shocked again. My good friend just finished having to re-potty train her dog after it got shocked and didn't want to go outside. That said, aside for that one instance with my friends dog, all of their other dogs do really well with them and it is nice to be able to have them outside more often than if you just had a tie out or leash walks. I would LOVE to be able to put one in but I have a VERY prey driven border collie who is a cat killer and we have a lot of cats that roam in our area. Good luck, Abbie buttafamily5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, We have a very quiet large yard bordered by woods and a golf course -- but I still need to have the peace of mind of keeping Dempsey from wandering off now that spring is here and we will be spending more time outside. So I am looking at different containment systems, but there are so many and I find it all a bit over-whelming. There are the buried wire invisible fencing type with the collar. Like this: http://www.petsmart.com/global/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441775933FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302032911ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374302023689bmUID=1175002906655itemNo=0In=DogN=2032911Ne=2 OR this: http://www.gundogsupply.com/prf-3004w-.html OR the hand-held remote type of trainers like this: http://www.gundogsupply.com/iut-300.html I like the price of the walkie-talkie type. But I want something that if I'm not watching him every second while outside, it will keep him in the yard. I'm not sure if these do that. Does anyone know the difference and can advise as to what brand or what exactly will work for us. Dempsey is about 25 pounds and generally stays with us when outside, but if something catches his interest, like a bird or a blowing leaf, he will start to get further away. An actual fence is not practical for us. I know someone here was talking about this earlier. Thanks so very much! I can't wait to let him romp outside when the mud dries and the temps warm a little! Donna Abigail S. Morrison Dissent is the highest form of patriotism. ~Thomas Jefferson~ - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing.
RE: [labradoodles] Advice on Electric trainers and/or fences
I think I have seen that one in the Fosters and Smith catalog. I always joke that I have that system with my husky/ aussie mix. I stand in the middle with a cookie and she never goes too far outside of the circle. LOL! Abbie Kendra Vestal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is one that is mobile and has no wires, just a base and a collar. Kind of like a cordless phone. I think that would be great for a large yard and just one dog. Sorry I don't know who makes it. Here is a link to a thread on another forum that discussed different systems. http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=141437;article=327440;title=Doodl e%20Discussion%20Forum -Original Message- From: labradoodles@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of buttafamily5 Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:04 AM To: labradoodles@yahoogroups.com Subject: [labradoodles] Advice on Electric trainers and/or fences Hi all, We have a very quiet large yard bordered by woods and a golf course -- but I still need to have the peace of mind of keeping Dempsey from wandering off now that spring is here and we will be spending more time outside. So I am looking at different containment systems, but there are so many and I find it all a bit over-whelming. There are the buried wire invisible fencing type with the collar. Like this: http://www.petsmart.com/global/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524 441775933FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302032911ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534 374302023689bmUID=1175002906655itemNo=0In=DogN=2032911Ne=2 http://www.petsmart.com/global/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552 4441775933FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302032911ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=253 4374302023689bmUID=1175002906655itemNo=0In=DogN=2032911Ne=2 OR this: http://www.gundogsupply.com/prf-3004w-.html http://www.gundogsupply.com/prf-3004w-.html OR the hand-held remote type of trainers like this: http://www.gundogsupply.com/iut-300.html http://www.gundogsupply.com/iut-300.html I like the price of the walkie-talkie type. But I want something that if I'm not watching him every second while outside, it will keep him in the yard. I'm not sure if these do that. Does anyone know the difference and can advise as to what brand or what exactly will work for us. Dempsey is about 25 pounds and generally stays with us when outside, but if something catches his interest, like a bird or a blowing leaf, he will start to get further away. An actual fence is not practical for us. I know someone here was talking about this earlier. Thanks so very much! I can't wait to let him romp outside when the mud dries and the temps warm a little! Donna Abigail S. Morrison Dissent is the highest form of patriotism. ~Thomas Jefferson~ - Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
RE: [labradoodles] Advice on Electric trainers and/or fences
Carol, Did you have yours installed by a company or did you do it yourself? I want to get one for a small area of my property. Just an FYI for you Carol~ Coco Beans finally went to her new home in CA and is doing well. I am pregnant and sick does not even describe it! I am only keeping Atta and Fancy in my program. Hussy Deni just had their last litters and are being retired. WOW~ -Original Message- From: labradoodles@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carol Dean Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:29 AM To: labradoodles@yahoogroups.com Subject: [labradoodles] Advice on Electric trainers and/or fences I have my entier 8 acres fenced with the invisible fencins and have 8 dogs contained nicely on it...the trick is training.3/4 of my property has horse fencing so they do have a visiual there, the rest I did with the flags provided. My older dogs teach the younger ones where their boundries are if the CHOOSE to listen ;)sometimes they just have to try it out for them selves and my older ones just sit there shaking their heads.tisk tisklol.. Carol/scl htto://www.southerncharmlabradoodles.com Fondly, Carol Southern Charm Labradoodles www.southerncharmlabradoodles.com http://www.southerncharmlabradoodles.com contact: 770 972 7678 404 849 5557 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/labradoodles/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/labradoodles/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [labradoodles] Advice on Electric trainers and/or fences
Kendra! Congrat's to you...oh my goodness...I just sent my baby off to college.whew...now I have relpaced all my real kids with puppies and dogsor my human children think so...:) Which one was Coco beans? Was that a pup you held back from Atta's litter? or the one you had in training for the family with the CP child? I had it installed professionally. I also have had them come out to fix occational issues (cut by bushog or areator. The most expensive part is the collars at 225 eachBUT if they get broke chewed up and you can SHOW them the coloar they replace it for shipping cost only, my trasmittor is in the barn and covers all the property. If we move I can take it and the collars with me We have a pool and I've gotten at least 10 new collars from them since they had a water proof issue..This last batch seems to have resolved that problem. I may be rerouting my fence so they can't get to the pool area or along my drive way, they are distroying shrubs and landscaping with all thier wild play. They will still have 5 acres to run around just a bit more contained if I do do this.. Hugs to you! :) Carol Kendra Vestal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carol, Did you have yours installed by a company or did you do it yourself? I want to get one for a small area of my property. Just an FYI for you Carol~ Coco Beans finally went to her new home in CA and is doing well. I am pregnant and sick does not even describe it! I am only keeping Atta and Fancy in my program. Hussy Deni just had their last litters and are being retired. WOW~ -Original Message- From: labradoodles@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carol Dean Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:29 AM To: labradoodles@yahoogroups.com Subject: [labradoodles] Advice on Electric trainers and/or fences I have my entier 8 acres fenced with the invisible fencins and have 8 dogs contained nicely on it...the trick is training.3/4 of my property has horse fencing so they do have a visiual there, the rest I did with the flags provided. My older dogs teach the younger ones where their boundries are if the CHOOSE to listen ;)sometimes they just have to try it out for them selves and my older ones just sit there shaking their heads.tisk tisklol.. Carol/scl htto://www.southerncharmlabradoodles.com Fondly, Carol Southern Charm Labradoodles www.southerncharmlabradoodles.com http://www.southerncharmlabradoodles.com contact: 770 972 7678 404 849 5557 Fondly, Carol Southern Charm Labradoodles www.southerncharmlabradoodles.com contact: 770 972 7678 404 849 5557
Re: [labradoodles] Advice on Electric trainers and/or fences
My german shorthair pointer is the reason i put the fence in to begin with..LONG before I started doodling..She killed at least 10 neiborhood cats and had a warrent out for her arrest. I had to fork out a couple of thousand dollars worth of medical vet bills for the neigbors animalsHer prey drive was feroucious..if it hissed at her it was going to DIE! ;( She is my only dog on the highest shock orf 10 with 10 after shocks if she decides to pass through it..I also took the warning beep-s off all my collars since these dogs think their are so SMART and have figured out if it didn't beep the fence, was not on...h So now they just don't know, if the batteries are dead or if there is a power failure or a short in the line..and stay put...:) I have sold more of these things than I can tell you. When people come to pick up thier puppies and see 8 dogs running along the fence line but not getting in the road they are amazedthey actually will run along side a jogger, just stay within 10 feet inside of out property line... Our horse has figured out if she stands by the fence the dogs will leave her alone..hehehe Carol www.southerncharmlabradoodles.com Abigail Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing that I can say about underground fencing is to make sure that you do a VERY good job of training him to the boundaries. Countless dogs come into the shelters with electric fence collars on because the dog ran out chasing something (the prey drive overcame the fear of the shock) and then they are afraid to come back into the yard. I have also known a few people who, after the dog was shocked once wouldn't go outside for fear of being shocked again. My good friend just finished having to re-potty train her dog after it got shocked and didn't want to go outside. That said, aside for that one instance with my friends dog, all of their other dogs do really well with them and it is nice to be able to have them outside more often than if you just had a tie out or leash walks. I would LOVE to be able to put one in but I have a VERY prey driven border collie who is a cat killer and we have a lot of cats that roam in our area. Good luck, Abbie buttafamily5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, We have a very quiet large yard bordered by woods and a golf course -- but I still need to have the peace of mind of keeping Dempsey from wandering off now that spring is here and we will be spending more time outside. So I am looking at different containment systems, but there are so many and I find it all a bit over-whelming. There are the buried wire invisible fencing type with the collar. Like this: http://www.petsmart.com/global/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441775933FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302032911ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374302023689bmUID=1175002906655itemNo=0In=DogN=2032911Ne=2 OR this: http://www.gundogsupply.com/prf-3004w-.html OR the hand-held remote type of trainers like this: http://www.gundogsupply.com/iut-300.html I like the price of the walkie-talkie type. But I want something that if I'm not watching him every second while outside, it will keep him in the yard. I'm not sure if these do that. Does anyone know the difference and can advise as to what brand or what exactly will work for us. Dempsey is about 25 pounds and generally stays with us when outside, but if something catches his interest, like a bird or a blowing leaf, he will start to get further away. An actual fence is not practical for us. I know someone here was talking about this earlier. Thanks so very much! I can't wait to let him romp outside when the mud dries and the temps warm a little! Donna Abigail S. Morrison Dissent is the highest form of patriotism. ~Thomas Jefferson~ - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. Fondly, Carol Southern Charm Labradoodles www.southerncharmlabradoodles.com contact: 770 972 7678 404 849 5557
RE: [labradoodles] Advice on Electric trainers and/or fences
Coco Beans was for the CP child~ This pregnancy was kind of a shock since the doctor said I couldn't have kids! Our 10 year old was less than thrilled but has decided it isn't so bad. I am down sizing for a year or two then will work on getting new breeding dogs and will bite the bullet and put in the fence then. _ From: labradoodles@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carol Dean Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:58 AM To: labradoodles@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [labradoodles] Advice on Electric trainers and/or fences Kendra! Congrat's to you...oh my goodness. http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/05.gif ..I just sent my baby off to college.whew...now I have relpaced all my real kids with puppies and dogsor my human children think so...:) Which one was Coco beans? Was that a pup you held back from Atta's litter? or the one you had in training for the family with the CP child? I had it installed professionally. I also have had them come out to fix occational issues (cut by bushog or areator. The most expensive part is the collars at 225 eachBUT if they get broke chewed up and you can SHOW them the coloar they replace it for shipping cost only, my trasmittor is in the barn and covers all the property. If we move I can take it and the collars with me We have a pool and I've gotten at least 10 new collars from them since they had a water proof issue..This last batch seems to have resolved that problem. I may be rerouting my fence so they can't get to the pool area or along my drive way, they are distroying shrubs and landscaping with all thier wild play. They will still have 5 acres to run around just a bit more contained if I do do this.. Hugs to you! :) Carol Kendra Vestal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carol, Did you have yours installed by a company or did you do it yourself? I want to get one for a small area of my property. Just an FYI for you Carol~ Coco Beans finally went to her new home in CA and is doing well. I am pregnant and sick does not even describe it! I am only keeping Atta and Fancy in my program. Hussy Deni just had their last litters and are being retired. WOW~ -Original Message- From: labradoodles@ mailto:labradoodles%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:labradoodles@ mailto:labradoodles%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Carol Dean Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:29 AM To: labradoodles@ mailto:labradoodles%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: [labradoodles] Advice on Electric trainers and/or fences I have my entier 8 acres fenced with the invisible fencins and have 8 dogs contained nicely on it...the trick is training.3/4 of my property has horse fencing so they do have a visiual there, the rest I did with the flags provided. My older dogs teach the younger ones where their boundries are if the CHOOSE to listen ;)sometimes they just have to try it out for them selves and my older ones just sit there shaking their heads.tisk tisklol.. Carol/scl htto://www.southern htto://www.southerncharmlabradoodles.com/ charmlabradoodles.com Fondly, Carol Southern Charm Labradoodles www.southerncharmlabradoodles.com http://www.southern http://www.southerncharmlabradoodles.com/ charmlabradoodles.com contact: 770 972 7678 404 849 5557 Fondly, Carol Southern Charm Labradoodles http://www.southerncharmlabradoodles.com www.southerncharmlabradoodles.com contact: 770 972 7678 404 849 5557
Re: [labradoodles] Advice on Electric trainers and/or fences
OH boy I need one of these fences for Sam I am ..he is a fence jumper ...a lot better then any horse I have ever owned ... It will cost way to much to install a new and higher fence ..so I took my Electric horse fence ( it has a solar power ) charger and it keeps him in for now .. But I think I will see about the wireless fence .. ---Original Message--- From: Carol Dean Date: 3/27/2007 11:06:25 AM To: labradoodles@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [labradoodles] Advice on Electric trainers and/or fences My german shorthair pointer is the reason i put the fence in to begin with.. ...LONG before I started doodling..She killed at least 10 neiborhood cats and had a warrent out for her arrest. I had to fork out a couple of thousand dollars worth of medical vet bills for the neigbors animals... Her prey drive was feroucious..if it hissed at her it was going to DIE! ;( She is my only dog on the highest shock orf 10 with 10 after shocks if she decides to pass through it..I also took the warning beep-s off all my collars since these dogs think their are so SMART and have figured out if it didn't beep the fence, was not on...h So now they just don't know, if the batteries are dead or if there is a power failure or a short in the line..and stay put...:) I have sold more of these things than I can tell you. When people come to pick up thi dogs running along the fence line but not getting in the road they are amazedthey actually will run along side a jogger, just stay within 10 feet inside of out property line... Our horse has figured out if she stands by the fence the dogs will leave her alone..hehehe Carol www.southerncharmlabradoodles.com Abigail Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing that I can say about underground fencing is to make sure that you do a VERY good job of training him to the boundaries. Countless dogs come into the shelters with electric fence collars on because the dog ran out chasing something (the prey drive overcame the fear of the shock) and then they are afraid to come back into the yard. I have also known a few people who, after the dog was shocked once wouldn't go outside for fear of being shocked again. My good friend just finished having to re-potty train her dog after it got shocked and didn't want to go outside. That said, aside for that one instance with my friends dog, all of their other dogs do really well with them and it is nice to be able to have them outside more often than if you just had a tie out or leash walks. I would LOVE to be able to put one in but I have a VERY prey driven border collie who is a cat killer and we have a lot of cats that roam in our area. Good luck, Abbie buttafamily5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, We have a very quiet large yard bordered by woods and a golf course -- but I still need to have the peace of mind of keeping Dempsey from wandering off now that spring is here and we will be spending more time outside. So I am looking at different containment systems, but there are so many and I find it all a bit over-whelming. There are the buried wire invisible fencing type with the collar. Like this: http://www.petsmart.com/global/product_detail.jsp him every second while outside, it will keep him in the yard. I'm not sure if these do that. Does anyone know the difference and can advise as to what brand or what exactly will work for us. Dempsey is about 25 pounds and generally stays with us when outside, but if something catches his interest, like a bird or a blowing leaf, he will start to get further away. An actual fence is not practical for us. I know someone here was talking about this earlier. Thanks so very much! I can't wait to let him romp outside when the mud dries and the temps warm a little! Donna Abigail S. Morrison Dissent is the highest form of patriotism. ~Thomas Jefferson~ The fish are biting.
RE: [labradoodles] Advice on Electric trainers and/or fences
Congrats Kendra! Wow a baby!! I always thought about a Hussy puppy! I would really love a silver in my program!Kinda one step at a time I am learning. I took too many steps before/over the Xmas holidays and really faltered, well more like fell flat on my face :) I just saw a newborn the other day, 3 days old! I had forgotten how tiny they are, my kids are so grown up! :) We wish you all the luck! Shari At 10:39 AM 3/27/2007 -0400, you wrote: Carol, Did you have yours installed by a company or did you do it yourself? I want to get one for a small area of my property. Just an FYI for you Carol~ Coco Beans finally went to her new home in CA and is doing well. I am pregnant and sick does not even describe it! I am only keeping Atta and Fancy in my program. Hussy Deni just had their last litters and are being retired. WOW~ -Original Message- From: mailto:labradoodles%40yahoogroups.comlabradoodles@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carol Dean Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:29 AM To: mailto:labradoodles%40yahoogroups.comlabradoodles@yahoogroups.com Subject: [labradoodles] Advice on Electric trainers and/or fences I have my entier 8 acres fenced with the invisible fencins and have 8 dogs contained nicely on it...the trick is training.3/4 of my property has horse fencing so they do have a visiual there, the rest I did with the flags provided. My older dogs teach the younger ones where their boundries are if the CHOOSE to listen ;)sometimes they just have to try it out for them selves and my older ones just sit there shaking their heads.tisk tisklol.. Carol/scl htto://www.southerncharmlabradoodles.comhtto://www.southerncharmlabradood les.com Fondly, Carol Southern Charm Labradoodles www.southerncharmlabradoodles.com http://www.southerncharmlabradoodles.comhttp://www.southerncharmlabradoo dles.com contact: 770 972 7678 404 849 5557 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/labradoodles/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/labradoodles/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [labradoodles] Advice on Electric trainers and/or fences
Hey Carol I didn't know about the after shocks after they pass through. Which system do you have? That was my biggest complaint when we put ours up was that my big Pyrenees/Shepherd boy decided the initial shock of going through was worth the price of freedom. Of course coming home he sat on the outside and barked until I came out and turned it off and let him in! Do your collars individually have the settings? It has been years since I had my system so maybe they have really made some nice improvements. My other complaint was it didn't keep anything out.Right now we have two dogs at the end of the road who have killed two other dogs and I am thankful I have a full fence up!We also have coyotes who come around and howl in the bushes outside the fence when they sniff girls in heat! Yikes on that one!! Shari At 08:03 AM 3/27/2007 -0700, you wrote: My german shorthair pointer is the reason i put the fence in to begin with..LONG before I started doodling..She killed at least 10 neiborhood cats and had a warrent out for her arrest. I had to fork out a couple of thousand dollars worth of medical vet bills for the neigbors animalsHer prey drive was feroucious..if it hissed at her it was going to DIE! ;( She is my only dog on the highest shock orf 10 with 10 after shocks if she decides to pass through it..I also took the warning beep-s off all my collars since these dogs think their are so SMART and have figured out if it didn't beep the fence, was not on...h So now they just don't know, if the batteries are dead or if there is a power failure or a short in the line..and stay put...:) I have sold more of these things than I can tell you. When people come to pi! ck up thier puppies and see 8 dogs running along the fence line but not getting in the road they are amazedthey actually will run along side a jogger, just stay within 10 feet inside of out property line... Our horse has figured out if she stands by the fence the dogs will leave her alone..hehehe Carol http://www.southerncharmlabradoodles.comwww.southerncharmlabradoodles.com Abigail Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing that I can say about underground fencing is to make sure that you do a VERY good job of training him to the boundaries. Countless dogs come into the shelters with electric fence collars on because the dog ran out chasing something (the prey drive overcame the fear of the shock) and then they are afraid to come back into the yard. I have also known a few people who, after the dog was shocked once wouldn't go outside for fear of being shocked again. My good friend just finished having to re-potty train her dog after it got shocked and didn't want to go outside. That said, aside for that one instance with my friends dog, all of their other dogs do really well with them and it is nice to be able to have them outside more often than if you just had a tie out or leash walks. I would LOVE to be able to put one in but I have a VERY prey driven border collie who is a cat killer and we have a lot of cats that roam in our area. Good luck, Abbie buttafamily5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, We have a very quiet large yard bordered by woods and a golf course -- but I still need to have the peace of mind of keeping Dempsey from wandering off now that spring is here and we will be spending more time outside. So I am looking at different containment systems, but there are so many and I find it all a bit over-whelming. There are the buried wire invisible fencing type with the collar. Like this: http://www.petsmart.com/global/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84 5524441775933FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302032911ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_ id=2534374302023689bmUID=1175002906655itemNo=0In=DogN=2032911Ne=2ht tp://www.petsmart.com/global/product_detail! .jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441775933FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302 032911ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374302023689bmUID=1175002906655itemNo =0In=DogN=2032911Ne=2 OR this: http://www.gundogsupply.com/prf-3004w-.htmlhttp://www.gundogsupply.com/ prf-3004w-.html OR the hand-held remote type of trainers like this: http://www.gundogsupply.com/iut-300.htmlhttp://www.gundogsupply.com/iut -300.html I like the price of the walkie-talkie type. But I want something that if I'm not watching him every second while outside, it will keep him in the yard. I'm not sure if these do that. Does anyone know the difference and can advise as to what brand or what exactly will work for us. Dempsey is about 25 pounds and generally stays with us when outside, but if something catches his interest, like a bird or a blowing leaf, he will start to get further away. An actual fence is not practical for us. I know someone here was talking about this earlier. Thanks so very much! I can't wait to let him romp outside when the mud dries and the temps warm a little! Donna Abigail S.
Re: [labradoodles] Advice on Electric trainers and/or fences
That's my problem, even on the rare chance that it might keep Boots (the high prey drive, cat killing border collie) IN, it will not keep my crazy neighbors cats OUT. The two cats he has killed had jumped our physical fence. I have to check the yard now before I let him out. The wank of a neighbor said oh, it's just the cycle of life But I was pretty traumatized over the whole thing. It is an awful death for any animal to be mauled by a dog. Abbie Olympic Labradoodles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Carol I didn't know about the after shocks after they pass through. Which system do you have? That was my biggest complaint when we put ours up was that my big Pyrenees/Shepherd boy decided the initial shock of going through was worth the price of freedom. Of course coming home he sat on the outside and barked until I came out and turned it off and let him in! Do your collars individually have the settings? It has been years since I had my system so maybe they have really made some nice improvements. My other complaint was it didn't keep anything out.Right now we have two dogs at the end of the road who have killed two other dogs and I am thankful I have a full fence up!We also have coyotes who come around and howl in the bushes outside the fence when they sniff girls in heat! Yikes on that one!! Shari At 08:03 AM 3/27/2007 -0700, you wrote: My german shorthair pointer is the reason i put the fence in to begin with..LONG before I started doodling..She killed at least 10 neiborhood cats and had a warrent out for her arrest. I had to fork out a couple of thousand dollars worth of medical vet bills for the neigbors animalsHer prey drive was feroucious..if it hissed at her it was going to DIE! ;( She is my only dog on the highest shock orf 10 with 10 after shocks if she decides to pass through it..I also took the warning beep-s off all my collars since these dogs think their are so SMART and have figured out if it didn't beep the fence, was not on...h So now they just don't know, if the batteries are dead or if there is a power failure or a short in the line..and stay put...:) I have sold more of these things than I can tell you. When people come to pi! ck up thier puppies and see 8 dogs running along the fence line but not getting in the road they are amazedthey actually will run along side a jogger, just stay within 10 feet inside of out property line... Our horse has figured out if she stands by the fence the dogs will leave her alone..hehehe Carol http://www.southerncharmlabradoodles.comwww.southerncharmlabradoodles.com Abigail Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing that I can say about underground fencing is to make sure that you do a VERY good job of training him to the boundaries. Countless dogs come into the shelters with electric fence collars on because the dog ran out chasing something (the prey drive overcame the fear of the shock) and then they are afraid to come back into the yard. I have also known a few people who, after the dog was shocked once wouldn't go outside for fear of being shocked again. My good friend just finished having to re-potty train her dog after it got shocked and didn't want to go outside. That said, aside for that one instance with my friends dog, all of their other dogs do really well with them and it is nice to be able to have them outside more often than if you just had a tie out or leash walks. I would LOVE to be able to put one in but I have a VERY prey driven border collie who is a cat killer and we have a lot of cats that roam in our area. Good luck, Abbie buttafamily5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, We have a very quiet large yard bordered by woods and a golf course -- but I still need to have the peace of mind of keeping Dempsey from wandering off now that spring is here and we will be spending more time outside. So I am looking at different containment systems, but there are so many and I find it all a bit over-whelming. There are the buried wire invisible fencing type with the collar. Like this: http://www.petsmart.com/global/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84 5524441775933FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302032911ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_ id=2534374302023689bmUID=1175002906655itemNo=0In=DogN=2032911Ne=2ht tp://www.petsmart.com/global/product_detail! .jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441775933FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302 032911ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374302023689bmUID=1175002906655itemNo =0In=DogN=2032911Ne=2 OR this: http://www.gundogsupply.com/prf-3004w-.htmlhttp://www.gundogsupply.com/ prf-3004w-.html OR the hand-held remote type of trainers like this: http://www.gundogsupply.com/iut-300.htmlhttp://www.gundogsupply.com/iut -300.html I like the price of the walkie-talkie type. But
