The only thing that I can say about underground fencing is to make sure that you do a VERY good job of training him to the boundaries. Countless dogs come into the shelters with electric fence collars on because the dog ran out chasing something (the prey drive overcame the fear of the shock) and then they are afraid to come back into the yard. I have also known a few people who, after the dog was shocked once wouldn't go outside for fear of being shocked again. My good friend just finished having to re-potty train her dog after it got shocked and didn't want to go outside. That said, aside for that one instance with my friends dog, all of their other dogs do really well with them and it is nice to be able to have them outside more often than if you just had a tie out or leash walks. I would LOVE to be able to put one in but I have a VERY prey driven border collie who is a cat killer and we have a lot of cats that roam in our area. Good luck, Abbie
buttafamily5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, We have a very quiet large yard bordered by woods and a golf course -- but I still need to have the peace of mind of keeping Dempsey from wandering off now that spring is here and we will be spending more time outside. So I am looking at different containment systems, but there are so many and I find it all a bit over-whelming. There are the buried wire invisible fencing type with the collar. Like this: http://www.petsmart.com/global/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441775933&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302032911&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374302023689&bmUID=1175002906655&itemNo=0&In=Dog&N=2032911&Ne=2 OR this: http://www.gundogsupply.com/prf-3004w-.html OR the hand-held remote type of trainers like this: http://www.gundogsupply.com/iut-300.html I like the price of the walkie-talkie type. But I want something that if I'm not watching him every second while outside, it will keep him in the yard. I'm not sure if these do that. Does anyone know the difference and can advise as to what brand or what exactly will work for us. Dempsey is about 25 pounds and generally stays with us when outside, but if something catches his interest, like a bird or a blowing leaf, he will start to get further away. An actual fence is not practical for us. I know someone here was talking about this earlier. Thanks so very much! I can't wait to let him romp outside when the mud dries and the temps warm a little! Donna Abigail S. Morrison Dissent is the highest form of patriotism. ~Thomas Jefferson~ --------------------------------- The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing.