My german shorthair pointer is the reason i put the fence in to begin 
with......LONG before I started doodling......She killed at least 10 neiborhood 
cats and had a warrent out for her arrest.  I had to fork out a couple of 
thousand dollars worth of medical vet bills for the neigbors animals........Her 
prey drive was feroucious......if it hissed at her it was going to DIE!  ;(
   
  She is my only dog on the highest shock orf 10 with 10 after shocks if she 
decides to pass through it......I also took the warning beep-s off all my 
collars since these dogs think their are so SMART and have figured out if it 
didn't beep the fence, was not on.......hmmmm
  So now they just don't know, if the batteries are dead or if there is a power 
failure or a short in the line......and stay put.......:)
   
  I have sold more of these things than I can tell you.  When people come to 
pick up thier puppies and see 8 dogs running along the fence line but not 
getting in the road they are amazed....they actually will run along side a 
jogger, just stay within 10 feet inside of out property line.......
   
  Our horse has figured out if she stands by the fence the dogs will leave her 
alone..hehehe
   
  Carol
   
  www.southerncharmlabradoodles.com
  

Abigail Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
          The only thing that I can say about underground fencing is to make 
sure that you do a VERY good job of training him to the boundaries. Countless 
dogs come into the shelters with electric fence collars on because the dog ran 
out chasing something (the prey drive overcame the fear of the shock) and then 
they are afraid to come back into the yard. I have also known a few people who, 
after the dog was shocked once wouldn't go outside for fear of being shocked 
again. My good friend just finished having to re-potty train her dog after it 
got shocked and didn't want to go outside.
    That said, aside for that one instance with my friends dog, all of their 
other dogs do really well with them and it is nice to be able to have them 
outside more often than if you just had a tie out or leash walks. I would LOVE 
to be able to put one in but I have a VERY prey driven border collie who is a 
cat killer and we have a lot of cats that roam in our area. 
 Good luck,
    Abbie

buttafamily5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:      Hi all,

We have a very quiet large yard bordered by woods and a golf course --
but I still need to have the peace of mind of keeping Dempsey from
wandering off now that spring is here and we will be spending more
time outside. So I am looking at different containment systems, but
there are so many and I find it all a bit over-whelming. There are the
buried wire invisible fencing type with the collar. Like this:
http://www.petsmart.com/global/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441775933&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302032911&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374302023689&bmUID=1175002906655&itemNo=0&In=Dog&N=2032911&Ne=2

OR this:
http://www.gundogsupply.com/prf-3004w-.html

OR the hand-held remote type of trainers like this:
http://www.gundogsupply.com/iut-300.html

I like the price of the walkie-talkie type. But I want something that
if I'm not watching him every second while outside, it will keep him
in the yard. I'm not sure if these do that. Does anyone know the
difference and can advise as to what brand or what exactly will work
for us. Dempsey is about 25 pounds and generally stays with us when
outside, but if something catches his interest, like a bird or a
blowing leaf, he will start to get further away. An actual fence is
not practical for us. I know someone here was talking about this
earlier. Thanks so very much! I can't wait to let him romp outside
when the mud dries and the temps warm a little! 

Donna






    Abigail S. Morrison
   
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