I have 3 adult children, 28-35, none married. But I want grandchildren. So,
to be prepared in an instant, I began and am almost finished with a wedding
handkerchief. Nothing too demanding, Louise Colganâs very pretty Torchon
wedding hankie. But I need to get that scrap of handkerchief linen
How popular is lace making in Wales?
Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, still brilliantly sunny.
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Subject: Re: [lace] British Symbols in lace
Thank you,
I suspect that the only way to know it is a leek is to know the provenance
of the lace or have it in the context of other British symbols. Although I
must admit that the British Supreme Court symbol would make a lovely lace
piece, and everything would be recognized because of what it is next
Thanks, Devon, I've copied it into my Lace folder. I thought someone would
have it. Now I've got it in a place where it's hard to lose.
Lyn in Lancaster, PA.
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If Iâve sent this twice, please accept apologies. I have reason to believe
that the first message didnât go through.
Whenever I go to a country, I always check lacefairy.com for what they say.
I take the paper with me, and I've done my research beforehand to find out
where these places
Good to know. Thanks for the info. Much appreciated. lrb
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From: Lorelei Halley
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 2:34 PM
To: lace@arachne.com
Subject: [lace] status report
You all may remember I wrote about a month or 2 ago about a Binche piece I
was
starting and
Oops. I went as far south IN FRANCE as Le Puy en Velay
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Cc: lace@arachne.com
Subject: Re:[lace] Lace Postcard
I agree. Those bobbins are exactly like the olive wood bobbins
I have the best DH in the world. Although that could be subject to debate.
He was online and called my attention to this article on AOL.
http://shopping.aol.com/articles/2011/05/26/how-to-wear-lace/
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As I mentioned a while ago, Doris Southard was my lace teacher. What I
mean, of course, is that I used her book to learn bobbin lace. I had seen
lace being made at a craft show in Newnan, Georgia outside Atlanta in
September, 1979, and I had to do it. I knit, can crochet, although I don't,
Need to change something here. It should read something like: Feel free to
do what you want with your books, tapes, CD's for your own personal use.
Use in non-profit education is another big exception to the copyright act.
If you want to check it out, it's
See why I wear rather thick glasses? Thanks for the nudge. NOW I see it.
lrb
From: Clive Betty Rice
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 4:30 PM
To: lynrbai...@desupernet.net ; lace@arachne.com
Subject: Re: [lace] photos of lace stamps
Look at the display again; it was there even though the
Iâve been making lace since 1980, but Iâve never made much. School,
children, work, all interfered with my lacemaking. Took my first lace course
in 2004, and my coursework has increased since then. My lacemaking
experience is limited to small pieces. But for the past few years
You're stuck with me in Maine from August 16-31. As I mentioned privately.
lrb
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From: tess parrish
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 3:17 PM
To: Arachne to post
Subject: [lace] good things are happening lacewise in Maine, USA
This is the time of year when many people
Living in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, I can assure you the Amish do NOT make
lace. Oh, and they use computers, but not in the house. In business,
especially if they're working for someone else. They're actually rather
savvy. Kids with cellphones before becoming members of the church.
Lyn in
After winding a gazillion bobbins for the IOLI Convention, I needed to do
something mindless. So whilst watching a Dr. Who rerun, I looked up lace rain
boots, which were mentioned here quite a while ago. There is a new pair, look
very pretty. The term to google is chooka lacey lace rain boots.
Dear Susan et al,
I know of no book that teaches bobbin lace by starting anywhere than
with what is considered Torchon. It's simplest, and with Torchon under your
belt, you can go a long way. Many of the simpler laces add only one or two
extras, braids, sewings, picots, and come up with
I am constantly impressed with the information and expertise this group can
bring to almost any question. I wonder what a company would give to have our
varied expertise available to it. Wow, Nancy, and everyone else who has waded
in on the topic. So another possibility is to line my cheap
My first problem came with the announcement of the Phoenix Lace Day. âOh,
wonderful!â I thought. âPhoenix, Arizona! I didnât know they were so
busy, but that might be doable! Maybe I can get a cheap flight! Look at all
the vendors!â Then I saw SMP, and I marveled that SMP would
Iâm getting ready for the Ithaca Lace Day in October. Iâm taking Binche,
and am all set with sufficient books. But a friend is taking a different
course, and scrambling to find a used copy of the preferred book, which is out
of print. Used copies are scarce and very expensive, new ones are
As you all know, I am not shy, and write frequently in this forum. My
most recent post was about the hope that authors could use modern technology
to continue to print books after the initial runs were finished, so that
valuable texts would, in essence, never be out of print. This was
I call myself European Camper, from the 4 weeks I spent in France, camping,
solo, looking at French lace places. And the 3 weeks we spent camping in
Germany, all 5 of us, in 1997, and., well, you get the idea. Anyhow, I
have a tent from LLBean, and I decided to write a review of it. I do
So, we have a lot of ways to increase the lace making population. I interject
here the significant problem in the US, that most Americans have never seen
lace being made, donât know what itâs about, and donât know anyone who
makes lace.
Increase the variety of places where we demonstrate.
Thanks so much. Actually, I went online and googled paper bobbins. I must
admit to a partiality to unspangled bobbins, and I like the idea of the
skewer or 1/8 dowel as the basis. the beads do a good job near the thread.
I'll be going to the local craft store and see what can be found to
Two things.
First, I have come up with an idea for demonstrating. It may be personal
only to me, but it may be useful for someone else to build on.
When we were in Sweden, 2004, I chanced upon Vadstena, sort of between
Stockholm and Goteborg. Two stationary lace supplies stores. One
Oh well, I tried. Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA
Dear Susan, et al,
Don't give up yet. The other question is whether there is a place in public
where you can make lace. Is there a place at the Flagler that has benches?
I can virtually guarantee there are no signs saying, NO LACE
Without going to my handy dandy crimes code, the crime of loitering is
something like being in one place in public too long, without a legitimate
purpose. It is used when they want you to go away, and whatever you are doing
doesnât qualify as another offense. So respectable people who stand on
I have noticed that a very, very large number of lacemakers also knit. The
same may go for weavers, but since bringing a loom for handwork isnât
practical, I donât notice that as much. Anyhow, there are 2 very popular
wool conventions in the middle Atlantic states, the Maryland Sheep and
And then I heard from a friend that the Chesapeake Region Lace Guild used to
demonstrate there. I should have known someone would have thought of that
long before. lrb
Anyhow, there are 2 very popular
wool conventions in the middle Atlantic states, the Maryland Sheep and Wool,
and the New
I was listening to some lace makers discussing the perils of showing pieces of
lace. People canât seem to keep their hands off. To say nothing of the
light-fingered. One person suggested putting the lace piece between two
pieces of glass. Seems like a winner to me. Might not deter all
Thanks Joepie, Cynce and Lauren,
Floating picture frame, while not being frameless, which is what I had
first contemplated, does fill the bill, and clearly is sufficiently popular
(Walmart, anyone?) so I have lots of choices. And with 2 11 x 14 frames
for less than $20 at Walmart, it won't
Clearly the question of displaying lace has been solved in many ways.
Thanks to all of you. I had a half off coupon at AC Moore, (a chain craft
supplies store in the US) so I picked up a floating picture frame, 10 x 14
of display, with a black frame, and glass, and a gizmo to make it stand up
I think there are two things to be noted here. The first is that we all
bring baggage to whatever we do, and such baggage does not necessarily show
on the outside. Some women, much, much more so than men, tend to take
criticism personally, so in criticizing their lace, you are criticizing
I think we are 'cheating' a little. On the other hand, we aren't spending
time in the convent learning a lace pattern we will make for the rest of our
lives, either. Making yardage, you learn the pattern from the diagram, but
after some repeats, the number depending on the complexity, you
I got to the courthouse at 7:30 a.m., as instructed, went through the security
scan just fine. The deputy sheriff who actually looked at the scan didnât
know me. I told him, âIn case youâre wondering, thatâs a bobbin lace
pillow, and those are pins.â He said, thinking for a second,
So, I demonstrated at a local crafts bazaar, and it was highly successful, in
my opinion. I have a little half sheet that I hand out giving the urlâs of
IOLI, and more local lace groups and two major suppliers. I handed those only
to those who really expressed and interest, and I handed out
to my album on webshots.com, arachne 2003 Lyn Bailey, a
picture I took in 2007 at the lace school in Brioude, France, showing the
childrens projects. Note the car on the road toward the bottom. And note
the color. lrb
From: Kim Davis
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 3:52 PM
To: Lyn Bailey
Cc
I was informed that my message in the email I sent was sadly curtailed. So I
am sending it again. Those funny marks are actually apostropheâs.
Dear Devon, et al,
I am now removing the bobbins from my fingers and putting on my
Lawyer/Barrister/Solicitor cap. Or whatever they wear. If it says,
Dear Susan et al,
Not only were there men's spats, there also were women's spats. I know
because my grandmother's wedding ensemble from 1908 or 9 included a pair of
white spats, because she was married in February, and was afraid the weather
would be bad, and she would catch cold from cold
I am first a knitter, having learned to knit at 5. Only began lacemaking at
the hoary age of 30. [no wisecracks please] With charts, I have found copying
the chart, making it large enough to be easy to read, is a great help. I then
use a pencil and LIGHTLY shade out the row Iâve finished.
Janis Savage said:
my pricking is a bit rough round the edges but I can ask Jean if I may send
you a copy of her original.
That one does not have any mistakes in it!
Best wishes for a traditional wintery Christmas, from Janis in a hot and
humid Honeydew.
Dear Janis,
That would be
I emailed Carla ( csbow...@cableone.netcsbow...@cableone.net ) who was
the lady who notified Diane about Mrs. Southard's death. She said she would
be there. I asked her to convey to Mrs. Southard's loved ones how much she
has meant to so many of us. Note also that the funeral home is
Dear All,
What a load of responses! Churches and libraries seem to head the list,
but coffee shops, restaurants, community centers, schools, which made me think
of our local state teacherâs college, art schools, quilting shops, LYS,
(local yarn shop) town halls, virtually any place with a
Dear Jo,
I do not profess to any real knowledge in this area, other than a
beginner's, but if you look on p. 49 of Tierisch Flandrisch book by Inge
Theuerkauf, you will see that the foot of the teddy bear is done in half
stitch, with gimp and ring pair. It is not diagrammed as such, from
Thank you Liz Baker, for that website. It set me thinking. Iâm certainly
not going to design a fence and have it fabricated in Bangalore, India. But
it occurs to me that one might be able to do that with a square of galvanized
fencing if there were a proper wire. Think of the possibilities
Yardage is a great learning exercise. You learn the techniques used in that
piece very well. And you go beyond the learning curve. I think this is a
very useful thing. So often we do lace only until we can do it without making
mistakes. With yardage, you get to the point where youâre not
I started to really think about this. I have handknit sweaters, handmade
clothes for all 5 of us, including a 43 year old wedding dress. I find that
until it's shredded, I can't get rid of something handmade. I don't have
enough lace to think about coffin decorations or additions, but I do
I must state the minority opinion. While I wouldnât want all my lace in my
coffin, and nothing if Iâm to be cremated, if itâs a standard coffin, then
I want a piece of lace with me. Just one. A lace hankie. My lace is my
friend, like my sweaters and the handmade clothes. I donât want
Technically it's not lace related, but could someone who is in contact with
Betty and Clive let us know how she is doing from time to time? Once in a
long while? Until she is well enough to subscribe again? Lyn Bailey
Betty Rice wrote:
I am entering the hospital for heart surgery on Monday
I have a Louise Colganâs Torchon wedding handkerchief edging in linen, and
Barbara Corbetâs Flanders âChainâ handkerchief in 70/2 Egyptian cotton.
For the linen Torchon, I am assuming handkerchief linen. Is that correct? I
have two kinds, one is a couple of Irish linen handkerchiefs
Sorry, all, evidently the filters take all apostrophes and quotation marks and
do weird things to them. Here it is without such marks. Please let me know
if there is also a problem with question marks. I will try to do better.
lrb
From: Lyn Bailey
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:04 PM
Dear All,
I forgot to ask what kind of fabric to ask for. Then I remembered some fairy
tale where some drops of blood were gathered on a piece of cambric. I think
the fairy tale involved swans, not sure. So then I looked up cambric.
Wikipedia is such a useful tool. Cambric was a specially
Dear All,
I forgot to ask what kind of fabric to ask for. Then I remembered some fairy
tale where some drops of blood were gathered on a piece of cambric. I think
the fairy tale involved swans, not sure. So then I looked up cambric.
Wikipedia is such a useful tool. Cambric was a specially
Woweee cazoonies! (no clue, but it's not supposed to be off color)
All the apostrophes intact. I just changed to plain text on my computer
based email, Windows Live email, and it should work. Wonder what this will
do to my other email.
Lace content, I'm still trying to order from Martha
Iâve been making Flanders, using Barbara Corbetâs book, which I highly
recommend, satisfied customer, etc., since last September. I have now bitten
off more than I can reasonably chew by tackling # XI in Kumiko Nakazakiâs
first volume of Flanders lace patterns. Tensioning increases is
Oh, that is a wonderful book. Very satisfied customer, nothing more. Barbar
Corbet, Flandrische Spitze/Flanders Lace. At IOLI last year, Holly held it up
and told me to buy it. Literally. So I did, and began the house in
September. There is a house on the front, and that is the learning
Dear Lorelei, et al,
Very clearly from what I was told, they were making lace when there was a
Duchy of Lorraine, and that, I believe, precedes Louis XIV and probably even
earlier. But what kind I don't know. It was exported to non-French
countries. The ladies in the group were very helpful,
Oh, phew, I only sent this to Sue Babbs without cropping.
Lyn wrote:
I agree. Merci beaucoup, Madame. Just got my copy, which I wasn't
expecting, being a first-time
OIDFA attendee. I just had time to look through it, but I found it
fascinating. Especially since I've been wanting a flat
I suspect it depends to a significant amount on the thickness of the thread.
I suspect, without any proof at all, that with thicker threads or very dense
lace, or lots and lots of cloth stitch, it can be laundered without a lot of
care. But for those fine, airy laces, well, for me at least,
I'm sure David will correct us if necessary, but I think David is looking
for a way to store bobbins in a project which are not in use in a way that
they are safely stowed, but can be retrieved easily. And a way to fit more
bobbins in the 'sweet spot' on the pillow, the area where the work is
Gosh. Well, they donât look it, but if they are that thin, they should do
the job.
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Just as a point of
That is for sure. Lyn
Lorelei wrote:
Agnes
I was thinking, all of them. I know it is wishful thinking. But if you
ever
get the urge, I think you would have a lot of viewers.
Lorelei
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What a wonderful altar cloth. Does anyone know where she would have gotten
the inspiration for all those little squares? Surely the same could be done
more modestly for our local churches. It appears that this cloth is destined
for Lourdes from the details at the side. And I saw it as picture
Dear Lorelei et al,
My children come from engineering families, on both sides, except that
before they were engineers, my father's family were landowning farmers. My
mother's family were poor peasants, but did not make lace. But I can
identify with the hand lacemakers. Making yardage lets
This is a project I want to get right, really right, especially since I will
be using it in the church to educate people about bobbin lace by doing the
pattern during the ubiquitous Episcopalian (Anglican) coffee hour. They can
see how it's going on, and what bobbin lace is all about. I am
Dear Alex,
Is there any difference in effectiveness of this procedure between cotton
and linen threads?
Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where the weather continues to be
perfect. Cool morning, warm but not hot afternoons, no rain, sun.
Alex Stillwell wrote:
When lace is made the
I like PHD. lrb
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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 10:30 AM
To: lace@arachne.com
Subject: [lace] working on my PHD
Hello Again! Forgot to mention something I found the other day--a gal with
a lace blog has a column about her PHD. So I
I looked, and there are no reports from the storm zone, so I take it upon
myself to report.
I just checked, and Devon is still without power. So she probably has time
to make lace in daylight, at a good window, as it is too cool to make lace
outdoors. (lace content) I'm sure the folks near
I hope I have uploaded the second sample of the altar cloth I am working on
for church. This is the second sample I made, this time out of the thread
for cloth itself. I have since gone on to work on the cloth itself. 2 30
pieces, and one piece 74 or so. I waited until the flickr thing was
This might be interesting to some. This example uses bought presumably
machine lace, but we know how to change that. At first I was thinking of
bobbin lace, but the problems of putting lace on a sphere might be solved if
the lace were knit.
Dear Sue,
What a tour de force! It's there on so many levels. And you get in a
Biblical reference as well! Very beautiful and very impressive. And I see
from the website that yours were not the only ones using bobbin lace, which
is also remarkable. Well done, well done. lrb
Sue Babbs
Dear Arachnids,
We will be going to Gothenburg/Goteborg for the Christmas holidays. One of
our sons lives there. We will be heading north up the coast on the way to
Oslo, but not getting that far, and also going to Vadstena, where I am
looking forward to some serious browsing at the Svenska
I have things on 4 pillows. I have a Bucks edging on my travel pillow.
I've finished 14 inches of 53. This pillow will come with me to Sweden on
the 16th to celebrate Christmas with Middle Child. Haven't done that for 5
years. Will be bringing what I can for an American Christmas dinner. I
Museums abound for all sorts of things. Art and history are the most
prominent. Art, in my opinion, includes lace. The thing about the average
art museum is that those who go there have acquired an education about what
is standing there, and what is hanging on the walls. Art history courses
I prefer Graffiti Lacing, myself. Break out the yarn bobbins, Get the thin
nylon cord from the big box hardware store, do something relatively simple,
attach to a tree. Let the local newspaper know what you're doing. Make it
the project of a lace group as their community outreach. Put it on
Dear All,
When we are at home, it is easier to make lace at home than lug the stuff
all over, but clearly from the responses, making lace in public seems to
draw questions from onlookers. How much interest could we get for
lacemaking if we simply spent some time in our home town making lace
I have an InStand which I use as a lace table. As minimalist a lace table as
I have every seen. Satisfied customer only. InStand.com, or Amazon. Iâm
thinking of a place like Union Park off Union Square in New York City, lined
with benches. Such a thing would not take up much room. At the
Until this cruise, my thoughts about demonstrating lace ran to official
demonstrations, with a brochure, probably more than one person, a display,
perhaps something on the wall. And such things certainly gather a lot of
attention to what we do. But with this trip, and the small pillow drawing
The internet, with all its technical advantages came at an opportune moment
for lacemaking. We are relatively few, but mighty. Information is power,
and information about lace is readily available in abundance on the
internet, and increasing. And now distance teaching is being explored. And
I've seen pictures on the internet of very old bobbins. They are bent and
warped. OK, they're old. I am working on a project with 40 pairs of 40/2
linen. So the thread is thick. After about 25 inches of the edging, I
noticed that two passive bobbins in the footside cloth stitch band were
Dear Noelene,
This is exciting. I actually know the answer. It sometimes happens as in
making a clothstitch frame around something, that you're ending up putting
your pairs of bobbins with one bobbin pointing right, and the other bobbin
pointing left, instead of both bobbins pointing in the
Dear Noelene,
Good point, but since I do know what the wooden bridge does, having used it,
and since the description is exactly the same, I suspect it has the same
purpose. Also, the translation for part of the description for the wooden
one is, the refined variant. Maybe the curve helps to
I may have sent the same long message twice. Not as bad as failing to trim
but I hope you will excuse the gaffe. Didn't mean to bore you folks twice.
lrb
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I have two sources for cover cloths. I have a sewing machine, so I can hem
fabric quickly. The first source was a duvet/comforter cover from Lands'
End (clothing and bedding in the USA) which, after over 10 years constant
use, shredded in the middle, but had usable edges. Only problem was it
Two things, first for those where English is not the first language, may I
suggest doing what my cousin Ellen and I do. My German is poor, and her
English is worse. So she speaks and writes to me in German, and I speak and
write to her in English. We each have our little yellow dictionaries,
Arachne has seldom been more active in the 4 years I have been reading.
Wow. You Lurkers are really making a difference. Even when the same thing
is said, it's not the same, there's a difference to it. New, fresh ideas
have been aired, always a good thing. We have been taken in new
Dear Lorelei et al,
I got the first message. It is an amazing collection and a lovely article.
I spent some time last night looking at them. They are amazing. I am not a
needle lacer, and so I don't think I can fully appreciate the enormity of
the work, but still it is breathtaking. And it
I ended up answering my own question, because I wanted to know. Iâll do it
both ways. All but one of the chateaux are in northern France. Most are in
the Loire Valley, more or less.
Chambord, Chaumont, Maintenon (actually close to Chartres, which is not in the
Loire Valley, but close),
I think logistically we can do all sorts of things, although it would be
nice to have a unifying logo. Who will come up with this logo? And if
there is more than one suggestion, how will it be chosen, or will we again
have a choice. With all the creative talent on this list, I am sure there
The first lace I ever did was shuttle tatting. That soon ended when I
discovered that I couldn't go back and fix mistakes. One of the 'joys' of
bobbin lace is that if you make a mistake you can retrolace and fix it.
Much later I discovered needle tatting, and I enjoy that for Christmas
My father was legally blind. His 20/20 was right up at his eyeball.
He went to blind school for a couple years as a child. Yet he drove a car,
was a thermonuclear physicist, and did everything anyone would do, except
bird watching and art appreciation. Before we went someplace new, he
Dear Alex et al,
This is exactly what I thought would be out there. Thank you so much for
sharing. I have met people who lost eyesight, and ended up just sitting, or
something close to it. That does not to happen. I especially like the
video camera option. One eye, if the sight is ok,
The replaceable multiple multiple LED light will inevitably be coming to
American electricity. It works extremely well, and it's green. In the
meantime, my Withof teacher, Susie Johnson, always recommends the cheap IKEA
one incandescent bulb articulating arm lamp that sells for something like
Dear Peg,
We are to get your weather tomorrow. We have plans to weed the strawberry
patch. Not fun, but needed. I think you should make the lace near the
picture whether you know the name or not. I love to make lace in beautiful
places. By a lake, in view of a mountain, by a river, in a
I was looking at the picture. I suspect one could copy the lace from what
is in the picture, although I don't know enough about needlelace to be sure.
If the artist was so concerned with the lace that he paints it so
exquisitely, it must have been important not only to him, but to his subject
Dear Jere, et al
I just bought a copy of The Prospect Before Her for 1 cent on Amazon. $3.99
shipping. There are a number of used paperback copies, so I suspect this
was a college text.
We have an opportunity here. This man is writing about lacemakers. I am
slow to judge. In today's
Once you get beyond one styrofoam pillow, beginner bobbins and a manual,
lace can get pretty expensive. I cannot speak to needlelace, as I don’t do
it. There are other pillows, decorated bobbins, the gorgeous Midlands
bobbins, and, above all, books. And taking classes, especially in the US,
Doable with the right equipment. Never a tornado. Well, OK, a warning in
Kansas, Dorothy's home, but we went into my cousin's house, then to her
basement, which was what she did, too. Heatwave was over by the evening.
Mosquitoes are nothing, even in Maine. Screened porch to the tent.
Dear Lorelei,
We got our wires crossed. I was referring to camping for accommodation, not
for the full convention. Under no circumstances do I think the IOLI
convention should be held out doors. Too much could go wrong. Fine for
some for accomodation, not fine for any other aspect of IOLI.
You can’t please everyone with a lace convention. People have different
priorities. When these are not met, they vote with their feet, and don’t
show up. I have never actually helped organize a lace convention, so I don’t
really know what is involved, except that it seems to be filled with
Then we need to know whether the two day class option created greater
attendance, and if so, whether an AGM on either Monday or Thursday night would
have resulted in a quorum anyway, and if not, how to deal with this situation.
Which is more desirable, the rule concerning a quorum, or greater
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