Ding Ding Ding No more calls, folks, we have a winner!
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 17:12, paultz wrote:
Hello?
Is there anybody in there?
Just nod if you can hear me.
Is there anyone home?
Come on now.
I hear you're feeling down.
I can ease your pain,
Get you on your feet again.
Relax.
I need
Hello?
Is there anybody in there?
Just nod if you can hear me.
Is there anyone home?
Naturally, this only effects Windows operating systems! Linux and MAC
are not effected.
Whew! You had me worried there for a bit I thought this had to
do with an OS I actually use ;-)
Paul
IBM's premier virtualization technology, z/VM, in the upcoming year. z/VM
helps enable mainframe customers to run tens to even hundreds of instances
of the Linux operating system on a single IBM zSeries server.
Tens or hundreds? Small potatoes next to Test Plans Charlie and Omega. ;-)
Paul
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-5060965.html
http://www.gcn.com/vol1_no1/daily-updates/23035-1.html
Paul
Have you noticed that most cars look like they were designed by the
same guy?
I think he's the same guy who designs all the sneakers, too.
I thought my Chuck Converse's were starting to look an awfull lot like Nikes!
;-)
pct
For those who didn't see this ZDNet interview.
http://netscape.com.com/2100-1104_2-1023778.html
Have you enabled telnet in /etc/securetty?
Paul
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I finally got my CTC connection to connect. At least Linux says it is. =
I'll list all of my pertinent information. Now, when I try to Telnet into =
my Linux1 Lpar, I get the following message
Eric,
As Mark has pointed out, it appears you have a connectivity issue, not a
telnet blocked by securetty.
Once you have the connection complete, if you get locked out by
securetty you do not need to worry about an editor at that point. You
can always just rename securetty to something else so
Eric,
I'm going on memory here, so it could be a slight typo. At least that
is my recollection from my RH7.2 install.
Regards,
Paul
Paul,
Like I said, there is no securetty in the etc directory. Is securetty the =
way you actually spell
Ralph,
Have you tried resetting the password with changepass?
../changepass.pl /etc/webmin root newpassword
Paul
installed webmin..
can connect with root
i changed root password
cannot connect..
it there a config file for webmin???
Sorry, Bob ... guess I did a reply to sender vs. the list. But now I
have this image (having noted your SunTrust signature block) that I
can't shake, of a cinnamon roll calling out to David, singing Don't you
want me baaby, Don't you want me oohhh?
Paul
Richards.Bob wrote:
Steve,
If this is the same flavor I installed, as I recall there are a couple
of directories you need to add to your PATH. Try looking for and adding
/opt/IBMJava2-s390-131/bin and /opt/IBMJava2-s390-131/jre/bin. It is
documented in /javadocs/README.SDK.HTML.
Regards,
Paul
Hi Doug,
As you said, Samba will do file/print serving just fine.
Here's a who's-doing-what list from IBM that will give you a taste of
other software that's available for various things:
http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/solutions/s390da/linuxproduct.html
As to backups, you can use
Many thanks to all who responded on my questions with ssh.
I hope to make time next week to go back and do some re-checking on all
of the things that were mentioned.
On using Protocol 1, it is only because I have two slightly different
flavors, and Protocol 1 worked where 2 would not. Don't
Did you all see this? Looks like the MS spin doctors finally figured
out that the Linux is an anti-capitalistic cancer approach wasn't
going to work!
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-981552.html
Thanks to all for setting me straight on ssh. As several people pointed
out, don't assign a passphrase to the host keys! I guess that falls
under the category of RTFMP! So I deleted all of my keys, and recreated
them with an empty passphrase. I still couldn't get to the z/OS boxes
from Linux,
Finally got the binaries working for z/OS 1.2 USS sorta.
I can go into OMVS shell under TSO, do an ssh into the same system, and
get logged right in, no problems.
If I try to ssh (from the same OMVS shell) to my RH7.2 Linux system, I get:
ssh_dss_verify: signature incorrect
key_verify
Do you want a doc or a tool? I use Webmin. Otherwise, www.sendmail.org.
Paul
From: Ann Smith
Subject: Doc for basic SENDMAIL configuring
Can someone point me at some doc on configuring basic sendmail on Suse
keys not
checking out correctly.
Mark Post
-Original Message-
From: paultz
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 3:33 PM
Subject: ssh_dss_verify: signature incorrect
Finally got the binaries working for z/OS 1.2 USS sorta.
I can go into OMVS shell under TSO, do an ssh into the same
: ssh_dss_verify: signature incorrect
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, paultz wrote:
Finally got the binaries working for z/OS 1.2 USS sorta.
I can go into OMVS shell under TSO, do an ssh into the same system, and
get logged right in, no problems.
If I try to ssh (from the same
: ssh_dss_verify: signature incorrect
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, paultz wrote:
Finally got the binaries working for z/OS 1.2 USS sorta.
I can go into OMVS shell under TSO, do an ssh into the same system, and
get logged right in, no problems.
If I try to ssh (from the same OMVS shell) to my RH7.2 Linux
Of course we already knew this:
Linux Headed for the Data Center
Don't look now, says a new report from the Goldman Sachs Group, but the
upstart Linux operating system is definitely headed for the data
center.
The Goldman report, entitled Fear the Penguin, indicates that as
Linux continues to
Ken,
Mark has it posted:
http://linuxvm.org/patches/S390/iplvol.sh
Here's another chance for me, though, to thank Mark for the great job he
does of organizing all of this stuff at linuxvm.org.
In thanking Mark for writing the script ( I had been the one who
originally asked how this could be
Mark,
I love it when I can cross things off of the 'to do' list before I even
get started. Thanks for the script!
http://linuxvm.org/patches/S390/iplvol.sh
Paul
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 14:16:29 -0500
From: Post, Mark K
Pat,
x3270 will run under Weirdmind.
Regards,
Paul
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Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 09:34:02 -0500
From: Abruzzese, Pat
Subject: 3270 emulation packages
I need a 3270 emulation package that is web based. Anyone currently using
If I have a RH7.2 user environment setup on system A, and I create a
brand new system B, can I clone the defined users from system A to
system B? If so, which files would need to be copied?
Thanks,
Paul
Thanks Ken, Daniel and Mark. This sounds easy ... I'll give it a try.
Paul
Hi Mark.
Yes, I checked for security violations nada.
Thanks,
Paul
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Hi Paul,
have you checked for RACF msgs in the zOS syslog?
Ciao
Mark
-Original Message-
Sent: 27 December 2002 21:33
Subject: ssh from z/OS
I got the binaries from
http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/unix/redbook/index.html
I installed it to my z/OS 1.2 system, go into OMVS and issue a:
'ssh linux.RH72.system ps -ef'
and it returns
'initgroups: USER123: EDC5157I An internal error has occurred.'
References to EDC515 say
Has anyone done similiar things or knows a HOWTO ?
Any suggestions appreciated.
Harald,
There are some excellent 'howto's at NASPA, by Adam Thorton:
http://www.naspa.com/PDF/2001/0101%20PDF/T0101007.pdf
http://www.naspa.com/PDF/2001/0201%20PDF/T0102007.pdf
Helped me a ton when I was playing
Mark,
Surely IBM had a sign up that said Excuse us while we remodel to
improve your Open Source Software Experience?
I can't imagine IBM would do away with something that is designed to
make ourt lives easier, now would they?
;-)
Paul
Jim,
Yes, quiesce your Linux prior to doing your DFDSS backup of your CDL DASD.
As to SSH, I assume you are referencing the SG245944 Redbook, chapter
25? I know it's out there, I just haven't gotten to it yet. I'm trying
to find some free time to do similar automated tasks via SSH. I'll be
LOVE the Help Desk Nightmare! I hear this same sort of story from
people two or three times a year Don't worry, we'll preserve your hard
drive. .. sure.
Paul
Yes. I believe you have to have CDL format for DFDSS to work.
Paul
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Is possible to take a backup from IPL DASD unit of Linux SuSe into a 349=
0
tape by DFDSS ?.
I mean, by putting for a while Dasd unit in another Lpar to get de backup.
This
From: Rob van der Heij
Subject: Re: IPL device number
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 20:03 09-12-02 -0500, paultz wrote:
Is there a single command or file somewhere in RH7.2 that will reveal
the device name/number from which the RH7.2 LPAR was IPLed?
The subchannel address
Is there a single command or file somewhere in RH7.2 that will reveal
the device name/number from which the RH7.2 LPAR was IPLed?
Thanks,
Paul
http://www.esj.com/news/article.asp?EditorialsID=345
Or is this another black-eye for the mainframe(like Unix
System Services was from a pure UNIX perspective) where
it's not quite ready for prime-time, and is just different enough that
there
are not enough apps available yet.
I think Linux is progressing much faster than USS did in its infancy.
I am running RH7.2.
In the messages, at boot, I get the following messages:
xinetd[679]: Server /usr/sbin/in.rexecd is not executable [line=13]
xinetd[679]: Server /usr/sbin/in.rshd is not executable [line=14]
I have the rsh-0.17-10 and rsh-server-0.17.5 packages installed.
Needles to say, rsh
the programs from being executed
(disable=yes) or something like that.
Having said that, you _really_ don't want to enable rsh or rexec. SSH is
the preferred, secure, method.
Mark Post
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From: paultz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] mailto:paultz%20%5Bmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]%5D
If I had a 'green with envy' emoticon, I'd use it here.
But since I'm stuck in the past, tell me why you don't configure a 64
bit machine running a 64 bit OS as all real storage? I thought expanded
was to be a thing of the past? But as I said, z boxes are just a day
dream for me.
Paul
Steve,
You may not have to wait that long. Look at Jim Elliott's post, on this
db, from Wed, 21 Aug 2002 14:58:35.
Regards,
Paul
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Subject: Re: Lotus Notes
A. Ordonez
IBM Corporation
Server Consolidation
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of each proposed
action! - they are very informative).
Carlos :-)
Saying goes: Great minds think alike - I say: Great minds think for
themselves!
Carlos A. Ordonez
IBM Corporation
Server Consolidation
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They will be goingcross country in a Winnebago, giving presentations
and demos on Redhat and the xSeries machines.
With a Winnebago, they probably have room for a pSeries, iSeries AND
zSeries ... why stop at the xSeries? ;-)
pct
Does anyone have Bastille working on RH 7.2? Is there an s390 RPM
flavor?
Thanks,
Paul
Many thanks to Mark, Daniel, John and Alan.
Looks like all I needed (other than the original kernel eratta) was the
modutils update.
I was fortunate this was a small chain to chase, in that this system is
not connected to the net, and therefore I can not do the easy tricks
such as up2date :-(
Is this a broken link, or do I have a (very antiquated) browser issue?
Thanks,
Paul
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Post, Mark K [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Computerworld Article: Wall St. Leans Toward Linux
With a handful of key Wall Street brokerage firms
Ooops! I normally catch that ... thanks, Mark!
Paul
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From: Post, Mark K [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Computerworld Article: Wall St. Leans Toward Linux
Neither. It's listserv line-wrap. The last bit of that URL
I am trying to upgrade an RH7.2 from 2.4.9-17 to 2.4.9-38. This is on
an internal system with no connectivity to the internet. When I try
installing kernel-2.4.9-38.s390.rpm, I get a modutils = 2.4.13 is
needed by kernel-2.4.9-38. Do I just need the new modutils to upgrade,
or will I need the
the only complaint RPM gave you, then for the kernel, all you
will
need is the new modutils. Now, what complaints you get when you go to
install modutils are another matter. :)
Mark Post
-Original Message-
From: paultz [mailto:paultz;ucia.gov]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 5:09 PM
This is the first outage I can remember since I started hanging out
here. What was your 'uptime' looking like before this?
Paul
I am making the (possibly incorrect) assumption that you have ensured
that
the
LPAR has only necessary devices online, and in particular no 3174s or
like
(as
per previous posts).
Good luck,
Vic Cross
hmmm..yes I do have other devices accessible to this lpar (like 3174s),
but
that's
I was asked today to install Java on my Linux 7.2 2.4.9-17 system. The
first thing I saw on the list was Jim Rich's post on the IBM Java
1.3.1. Following his links, I noted that I would need IBM's 2.4.9-38
OCO RPM's along with the kernel errata. What is 'kernel errata',
everything at
Thanks, Phil.
I guess I'll back it up and give it a try you make it sound easy!
Thanks again,
Paul
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Hi Paul.
To answer your questions:
The rpm you will most likely need is this:
kernel-2.4.9-38.s390.rpm
and install is as
Mark,
My thanks to you again. After rechecking my 'man syslog', it says 'This
is probably not the function you are interested in. That's true: man
syslog.conf makes all the difference in the world.
A million more thanks,
Paul
Paul,
Well, one apology from me first. I did a man syslog.conf
Thanks, John. Good tips and advice!
Thank you,
Paul
The logging goes to both places. If the remote host goes down, the
traffic to
that is lost silently (it's using UDP), but resumes when it comes back
up.
Logging to other destinations is unaffected.
Note that the remote host has to be
I know you can redirect a log to a log host: can you dual-log to both
the log host and the local machine at the same time? If not, what
happens if you are using a log host and the host goes down ... does
syslog revert back to the local machine /var/log/messages?
Thanks,
Paul
Just two comments of my own, FWIW.
I keep in touch with CyberNotes, which is published by the NIPC
(National Infrastructure Protection Center). Although much of many
debates I have heard on secure OSes (or vulnerabilities therein) can be
biased or emotional, NIPC does some excellent reporting
How's Uncle Bill going to make a buck with all this anti-capitalism
going on??? ;-)
In a recent speech delivered to the Government Leaders' Conference in
Seattle, Microsoft chairman Bill Gates likened the concept of open
source to anti-capitalism. alright
25 Solarises on an IBM large system
Anyone know which Sun box type(s) this refers to?
Thanks,
Paul
Of course, Bill G has claimed that he _invented_ the internet.
Well, he's certainly helped drag it down using Outage Express
John,
No, that's not right, is it? I'm pretty sure it was Al Gore who
invented the internet! ;-)
Paul
I wonder what the odds of an MS-Linux distribution are?
Even if they came up with one --- would you really want it???
Marcelo Tosatti: The future is Linux
http://netscape.com.com/2100-1104-943064.html?type=pt
... you have to see this:
the No. 1 skill that IT managers at large enterprises say they'll be
looking for:
Mainframe management, especially involving Linux on the mainframe
http://www.esj.com/features/article.asp?EditorialsID=108
Hi, Max.
You probably already found your answer, but if not try 'startkde' or
'gnome-session' from your X window to start up the respective desktops.
Regards,
Paul
Hello,
I've just installed Linux RedHat 7.2 on VM image. During installation
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i've selected x11 applications and desktop
The font one is missing fonts - so it fell back to others
The RENDER extension is used for antialiasing which it will also fall
back
from. X has a common guaranteed core, and extensions which may not
be present. KDE is happy with just the core like all good X apps
Thanks, Alan. Although
In a previous posting (some parts below), I complained to Mark Post that
I had one of those workstations that I could not install an SSH X server
upon (no C: drive access). Alan Cox responded with a post about
weirdmind.
I have since gotten a copy and taken it for a test drive, and find that
it
Daniel and Mark,
Thanks for your help on this one. I changed Options from:
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
to:
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes
and all is well.
Thanks!
Paul
Is the script supposed to be called by Server Side Includes? Default
RH
7.2 does not have an Options Includes
Matt,
This topic comes up from time to time. Although IBM ran a survey
sometime back, I never heard whether they had any serious intent to port
Domino to L/390. If someone knows what is up IBM's sleeve, I would love
to hear their answer.
Regards,
Paul
I have the RH7.2 Enigma that I recently installed, running
Apache-1.3.20-16.
I have a perl CGI that provides some uptime HTML output to my
INDEX.SHTML home page. I have no errors/access issues according to my
logs, yet I see no output from the CGI on the home page. I have been
through the
I have a customer that runs a 6gb Sybase12 db on a shared E10k. A
typical query on table scans is running him ~15 mins. We're thinking
that if this is primarily an I/O issue, the L/390 may result in faster
throughput.
Does anyone have experience with the L/390 Oracle9i that
compares/contrasts
Bruce,
1. What is the best distro to use for this purpose? I
realize there may be several different good answers to
this question, I'm just looking for opinions here.
You are correct, opionions vary. But you indicated a preference for
rpms? Why not consider the Rh7.2?
2. Where are the
Hot off the presses:
http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/05/24/020524hnibmlinux.xml?0524frpm
As Mark pointed out, there is a fix for the problem I am having with
Samba from David Sainty.
(Hint, it comes from David Sainty of Red Hat, and it was in May or
April.)
In David's note he says:
I would suggest trying my patched samba package set, available at:
http://www.esj.com/news/article.asp?EditorialsID=213
In this
business we all need to know how to say I don't know and you taught
me
something as things change too fast to have our feet in concrete.
Lionel is right ... I say it all the time. Maybe I don't know, but
fortunately the members of this list are more than willing to share
their knowledge
I finally got the RH7.2 downloads completed (I hope), and today I will
start my install (LPAR mode). I have the tape system IPLed, telneted in
and started rhsetup. On the installation menu, one of the panels asks
what type of installation you want to perform. My first impulse is
install
I guess they didn't know (or more likely care) about Blue Away ;-)
http://www.esj.com/news/article.asp?EditorialsID=205
Forst, many thanks to those who responded earlier with all of the
usefull information and URLs that helped me get the install completed to
DASD (finally decided to rob from Notes390 to give to Linux390 and ended
up reusing a mod 9 ... so plenty of room!).
I have utilized the vast wisdom of the
Telnet login by root is probably not allowed. It's not good security
practice since telnet traffic passes in clear text. Something someone
in
your job would know is not a good thing. :)
Touche, Mark! But if you had seen me cursing the HMC console using
'echo' to change parm files, you'd
Tom,
I had similar problems going from RH6.2 to 7.2. I also have the same
configuration you are using (ESCON CTC, Linux LPAR, and z/OS 1.2 on the
other end). In RH6.2 I would define escon0=, but had no success with
that in 7.2. Here is what I did get to work (with a lot of help from
Mark and
... according to ESJ. Of course we already knew this.
Enjoy
http://www.esj.com/departments/article.asp?EditorialsID=59
We'll probably be looking into this first (ftp to a lpar jes2 internal
reader).
If we ever get VM here, is there a linux - VM - OS/390 method that's
better?
I would not be surprised ... but that's a question someone with a
similar setup would have to answer.
Paul
I want to install RH 7.2, LPAR mode.
I am at the the point where I am ready to run rhsetup. Do I need to
download ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/rawhide/s390/* and pick
up everything except the SRPMS in order to complete the installation?
Thanks,
Paul
You can do that, or if you're a real masochist, you can point the
installer
to a mirror of the Red Hat FTP server and do the RPM installs over the
internet. Be warned, it will take a long time to get all the files
either
way you do it.
Mark Post
Thanks for the confirmation, Mark.
How about using 'rsh' to send a 'logger' command?
Paul
Am I showing my age yet? Where have all the anxiety-
producing languages for the s/370 gone?
No AUTOCODER?
;-)
Paul
It may be caused if you installed a new kernel. If this is the case,
try to ipl cms, and then boot the linux machine.
I should have mentioned I am running LPAR mode. I had damage to several
files due to not being shut down properly, and ran e2fsck to repair the
problems. Think this could have
I remember some time back there was an article on a company I believe
was called Talia, that implemented an IBM Linux server consolidation
solution, but can't for the life of me find anything in my searches.
If anyone that has any info on this, I would appreciate it!
Thanks,
Paul
Thanks Rich and Jim. This does the trick.
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