Hm, in
2003-06-13 Recommended Linux code drop to developerWorks (released June
20)
Qeth is OCO yet.
WBR, Sergey
Hi to all
We are looking to start a Proof of Concept (POC) of Linux on zSeries very
soon , to aid my learning curve I want to install a Linux partition on my
laptop, are there any ideas as to what distribution I should install , or
does it not make any difference .
For the sake if discussion ,
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Ceruti, Gerard G wrote:
Hi to all
We are looking to start a Proof of Concept (POC) of Linux on zSeries very
soon , to aid my learning curve I want to install a Linux partition on my
laptop, are there any ideas as to what distribution I should install , or
does it not
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:55:16 +0200, Ceruti, Gerard G wrote:
Hi to all
We are looking to start a Proof of Concept (POC) of Linux on zSeries very
soon , to aid my learning curve I want to install a Linux partition on my
laptop, are there any ideas as to what distribution I should install , or
does
I would recommend to install Linux/390 on your laptop under hercules
(http://www.conmicro.cx/hercules/). Hercules runs under Windows or
better under a Intel Linux distribution. It works very well (e.g. is
able to simulate 64-bit z-series).
However, if you will run SLES 8 on the mainframe, I
Sorry my error. I should have said how can I boot from
1116 - and I am
thinking about disaster / recovery where I have restored onto
unit 1116 and
I cannot have already done a zipl because (in my hypothetical
scenario) my
system is currently down.
Well, in that case is 1116 available to
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/cmp/20030619/tc_cmp/10700411
Enderle has impressed me (slightly) over the years as being not the least
clueful of analysts (he says, perhaps damning with faint praise).
While I don't agree with his conclusion (or my email address would be
I presume there are binaries around
John,
In his life prior to IBM Ulrich used to work on Wine.
He thus has the much better expertise than I do.
Is there anybody out there considering it valuable on
zSeries as a migration path ? Remember you need to have
the Windows sources of the applications
On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 02:09, Gerhard Hiller wrote:
- May 2002 stream:
o kernel 2.4.19:
- kernel patch with recommended bug fixes
- On demand timer patch (otional) adapted to match kernel changes
- Recommended qeth and tape_3590_mod OCO modules
- s390-tools 1.1.7
If what you are attempting to do is a DR test, then on your DR hardware you
need to boot the install/recovery system (from an IPL tape or from the CD
image using the HMC), and mount your dasd images on that system, at say
/mnt, then do a chroot /mnt and you can then edit/twiddle/alter your system
I'm infatuated with Knoppix Linux. I agree with the person that mentioned
if you want to learn Linux almost any distro will do. Knoppix would be a
great learning tool if your laptop already has an OS on it that you don't
want to depart with because it runs off of the CD but you can still write
to
We are considering doing a write up how to use PAV under z/VM using LVM
(requires SLES 8). Under LPAR we currently don't have the necessary Linux
support in place.
Would be good to hear from you how important you consider it.
My two cents:
What would be good to know is the best way to
David,
Check with your DR provider. Although you may not have VM, they most likely
do. I know that Sungard and IBM do. If so, you might be able to use their VM
system for your DR. If so, then you don't need to do anything. Just tell the
DR vendor your current addresses and have your DR Linux guest
What would you need to have 'ready' to take an LPAR configured z/linux
parition and IPL it on VM? Timer patch considerations? Thigns like that.
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Michael MacIsaac wrote:
Is there a DirMaint HOWTO?
I've written some notes for newbies that ease the Dirmaint learning
curve. They're in a Word file (sorry!). Contact me off-line if you
want/need a copy. (Requests sent through the list will be studiously
ignored! :-) )
Nick
Well,
We *finally* got some decent information from the security person. He's
talking about the Redbook on the OSA installation. It had some things about
RACF security. He assumed that this applied ONLY to the OSA card and not the
TCPIP or OS/390 UNIX, which are already securited. Also we're
Sounds like you have someone that May be determined to kill the project !
Maybe you can Find him something else to work on, like A First Response
Team that will take him some time to figure out
Ken
At 10:03 AM 6/20/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Well,
We *finally* got some decent information from
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 09:40:49AM -0700, Jim Sibley wrote:
With 1 Gig of real memory and 512 MB per guest, you're probably measuring
the VM paging subsystem or some other overhead phenonmena, which is
probably tunable, not the Linux guest. - with 10x512 MB guest to 1 GB real
memory, you may
Mike, I think you need to address your PAV concerns to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
They're the developers and they say that PAV's are not supported.
Regards, Jim
Linux S/390-zSeries Support, SEEL, IBM Silicon Valley Labs
t/l 543-4021, 408-463-4021, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*** Grace Happens ***
Tzafrir, your assumptions would be true if the guest doing the bench mark
were the only one in the box. However, the benchmark appears to be run in a
resource constrained environment with the benchmark guest competing with
other guests.
The measurements I ran of the benchmark as a VM EC (and an
I personally don't need it, since we have no, or almost no, homegrown
windoze applications.
On the other hand, it would seem that it might be valuable to those that
do have their own apps, or it ISVs that might be interested in porting
their apps, which is why I mentioned it in the first place.
Running Native is certainly a viable option IF the load on the Linux system
warrants it.
Has anyone tried the model when you have a single Linux with many users
timesharing, rather a lot of single purpose linux images? This would be
like a CMS or TSO environment where you have a lot of shared
Well, there are two approaches. Either one or both together works.
1. Install any distribution on your laptop. One that has panels to
make things easier, really helps in getting Linux up and possibly
usefull. (doesn't IBM have a mainframe that has Linux accounts? It may
be for developers,
Sergey Korzhevsky wrote:
Hm, in
2003-06-13 Recommended Linux code drop to developerWorks (released June 20)
Qeth is OCO yet.
Adam Thornton wrote:
Wasn't qeth going to become Open Source? I *think* I remember hearing
that a couple months ago. What's the status of that?
That's because the 06/13
If QETH is going OpenSource, does that mean that IBM is going to document
the SIGA instruction et al.? Or is it going to be a case of the source is
available, so that it can be recompiled, but the information needed in order
to modify it will still be restricted? Just curious.
--
John McKown
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Matt Lashley/SCO wrote:
I'm infatuated with Knoppix Linux. I agree with the person that mentioned
if you want to learn Linux almost any distro will do. Knoppix would be a
great learning tool if your laptop already has an OS on it that you don't
want to depart with
For you DB2 users... wasn't there some restriction with DB2 and database
managed tablespaces on Linux for S/390? This particular site is running DB2
V7.2 FP6 on Turbolinux (2.2.19) (an upgrade to SLES8 is in progress).
I know I avoided it for some reason, but can not recall why...
--
Rich
I found the restriction on the use of raw devices, but can you use database
managed tablespaces without using raw devices?
On Friday 20 June 2003 01:45 pm, you wrote:
The only thing I can recall about UDB and database managed tablespaces
is that it is not a performance option. But as I ponder
On Mer, 2003-06-18 at 17:42, McKown, John wrote:
David,
The doc is absolutely correct. You cannot run Wine on anything that is not
IA32 (x86) compatable.
The doc *was* absolutely correct. Qemu seems to have changed that
somewhat already. Its a portable x86 JIT.
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 02:53:00AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Tom Duerbusch wrote:
Well, there are two approaches. Either one or both together works.
1. Install any distribution on your laptop. One that has panels to
make things easier, really helps in getting
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 02:53:00AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Tom Duerbusch wrote:
Well, there are two approaches. Either one or both together works.
1. Install any distribution on your laptop. One that has panels
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 02:53:00AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
You don't need pm to do backups. You _might_ need it to resize your
partition, but as far as possible use Linux tools.
I resized a Windows 98 partition using FIPS which came with Red Hat
Linux. I backed uo the whole drive
Where I agree on many accounts, I'm looking at it from someone that
doesn't know Linux or Unix. So I try to break down the learning curve
into smaller pieces.
With Partition Magic, I don't have to know Linux or how to do it, PM
will just do it. A person can learn about how to do it the Linux
John McKown wrote:
If QETH is going OpenSource, does that mean that IBM is going to document
the SIGA instruction et al.? Or is it going to be a case of the source is
available, so that it can be recompiled, but the information needed in order
to modify it will still be restricted? Just curious.
FWIW, qemu 0.3 compiles cleanly except that on L/390 it does not have
the CPU-specific signal handler it needs in cpu-exec.c.
This looks like it's going to be very similar to the work Neale and I
did in the initial AFS port to get the LWP handling stuff to work, and
shouldn't be that hard. Won't
On Iau, 2003-06-19 at 08:26, David Goodenough wrote:
No, apt-get only comes with Debian and Debian derived distributions (e.g.
Knoppix) . It relies on a repository format for holding all the DEB files
on central servers and Redhat and SuSE do not provide such repositories.
Apt-get removes
Tom/Jim,
Re Scott's note . we have developed a tape services suite for
linux/s390-zSeries.
main features .
Native backup/restore for linux/s390-zSeries,
STK silo support,
390-zSeries tape drive sharing across linux images (390 and i386),
A virtual tape facility for linux/s390-zSeries,
Martha,
I'll take any of the following that haven't already been taken:
9205 Tue11:00a Under the Covers: The VM Control Program (CP) -
Part 1 of 2
9321 Tue03:00p File Serving Solutions Using Samba
9221 Thu01:30p TRACK
Sorry, that wasn't supposed to go to the whole list.
- Alex foot in mouth deVries
Is there any significance to the fact that the ISO9660 extensions for
Linux/UNIX is called Rock Ridge (the name of the town in Mel Brooke's
Blazing Saddles) whereas the extensions for Windows is Joliet (the name
of a major prison in Illinois)?
--
John McKown
Senior Systems Programmer
UICI
Didn't Elwood pick up Jake at Joliet?
It's 106 miles to Chicago
We've got a half a tank of gas
A full pack of cigarrettes
It's dark and we're wearing sunglasses
Hit it!
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Tom Duerbusch wrote:
Where I agree on many accounts, I'm looking at it from someone that
doesn't know Linux or Unix. So I try to break down the learning curve
into smaller pieces.
With Partition Magic, I don't have to know Linux or how to do it, PM
will just do it. A
Hello again from Gregg C Levine
Probably coincidence. When it comes to picking names for certain
features, some programmers are a strong believer in that. For myself,
I tend to think its only a coincidence. And I actually liked that Mel
Brooks movie, and thought that in the film that Ryan is
We are considering doing a write up how to use PAV under z/VM using LVM
(requires SLES 8).
Ingo,
We have implemented PAV on OS/390 with great improvement in Disk I/O
response times. As we are new to z/VM and testing SLES8 it would of great
benefit to us to receive such a write-up (asap!!!)
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