Re: Systems management - quick survey?

2008-07-10 Thread Phil Smith III
Michael MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So I apologize to Aduva for suggesting their product might be dead. But not to Levanta -- not only is the z product dead, but as of 3/31/08, the company itself closed its doors; the website finally went down a few days ago. Another one bites the

Re: Systems management - quick survey?

2008-07-09 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Thanks to all who replied. I did get a note off-list that Aduva does still support System z: Yes, we do still have a version that supports Z - but most of our growth is really in the distributed Linux and Solaris space. So I apologize to Aduva for suggesting their product might be dead. Mike

Re: Systems management - quick survey?

2008-07-09 Thread Mark Post
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 2:38 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all who replied. I did get a note off-list that Aduva does still support System z: Yes, we do still have a version that supports Z - but most of our growth is really in the

Re: Systems management - quick survey?

2008-07-09 Thread Marcy Cortes
by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:06 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Systems management - quick survey

Re: Systems management - quick survey?

2008-07-08 Thread Brian France
In preparing some z/VM course material, I found myself having to define z/VM system management. It turns out that you have: - Provisioning (real and virtual) We are utilizing Shared-Root, therefore we picked up various scripts and modified as needed ( if any ). - Human operations (IPL,

Re: Systems management - quick survey?

2008-07-08 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 07/08/2008 at 11:30 EDT, Brian France [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Security (authentication, authorization, audit) Directory only. (sigh) This means you cannot audit the activites of a virtual machine and your passwords are stored in cleartext. Your backups contain the same

Re: Systems management - quick survey?

2008-07-08 Thread Brian France
At 12:10 PM 7/8/2008, Alan Altmark wrote: On Tuesday, 07/08/2008 at 11:30 EDT, Brian France [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Security (authentication, authorization, audit) Directory only. (sigh) This means you cannot audit the activites of a virtual machine and your passwords are stored in

Re: Systems management - quick survey?

2008-07-08 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 07/08/2008 at 12:47 EDT, Brian France [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THANX! I know but you do with what you have. Backups go thru a hipersocket from MFL/z/VM to z/OS. You do with what you have as long as you have a Get Out Of Jail Free card in your pocket. That is, a management-approved

Re: Systems management - quick survey?

2008-07-08 Thread Brian France
At 01:00 PM 7/8/2008, you wrote: On Tuesday, 07/08/2008 at 12:47 EDT, Brian France [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THANX! I know but you do with what you have. Backups go thru a hipersocket from MFL/z/VM to z/OS. You do with what you have as long as you have a Get Out Of Jail Free card in your

Re: Systems management - quick survey?

2008-07-08 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 07/08/2008 at 03:05 EDT, Brian France [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanx Alan. Looks like I need to do some reading on NPIV. By the way, I'm pretty sure, thos you have me second guessing, that if you have several chpds on a frame, they all have the same WWPN which comes from the

Re: Systems management - quick survey?

2008-07-08 Thread Shawn Wells
Michael MacIsaac wrote: I tried to categorize what's available today into 4 main areas (I apologize if I your software is not on the list, or if it listed as Dead or dying but is not. I do not also plan to address performance management). Here is the survey: I use RHN Satellite for my

Re: Systems management - quick survey?

2008-07-08 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 07/08/2008 at 09:10 EDT, Shawn Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is your greatest need in z/VM and Linux systems management? : Bare metal provisioning. I'd like to provision Linux guests entirely through the web -- allocate all resources (hipersockets, DASD, everything), have

Systems management - quick survey?

2008-07-07 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Hello list, I'm preparing for a SHARE presentation (week of Aug 11, San Jose, CA) on z/VM and Linux systems management. If you use Linux and z/VM on System z, do you have time for a quick survey? I tried to categorize what's available today into 4 main areas (I apologize if I your software is

Re: Systems management - quick survey?

2008-07-07 Thread Marcy Cortes
. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael MacIsaac Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 12:39 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [LINUX-390] Systems management - quick survey? Hello list, I'm preparing for a SHARE presentation (week of Aug 11, San Jose, CA

Re: Systems management - quick survey?

2008-07-07 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Marcy, Define systems management :) Yes, that is what I hope to do in an hour at SHARE :)) I tried to leave the form open-ended. But let's say systems management = monitoring, provisioning and patching, while performance management is perhaps a separate science unto itself. Mike MacIsaac

Re: Systems management - quick survey?

2008-07-07 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 07/07/2008 at 04:08 EDT, Michael MacIsaac/Poughkeepsie/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Define systems management :) Yes, that is what I hope to do in an hour at SHARE :)) I tried to leave the form open-ended. But let's say systems management = monitoring, provisioning and patching,

Re: Systems management - quick survey?

2008-07-07 Thread Scott Rohling
I agree with Alan - the list is much broader.. I've updated below what I've seen my customers using, using Alan's list. Not sure if this is what you want, Michael - but FWIW: Scott On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday, 07/07/2008 at 04:08 EDT,