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It seems that Mr. Snitz is a mathematician, anarchist,...
Let me guess - he's a Chaos theorist? :)
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Quoting geoffrey mendelson, from the post of Sun, 12 Jun:
On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Uri Even-Chen wrote:
I don't agree with you, Geoff. What Richard Stallman does as a
private person does not mean the FSF in involved. As a private
person Richard Stallman has the right to boycott
2011/6/15 Ira Abramov lists-linux...@ira.abramov.org
Quoting geoffrey mendelson, from the post of Sun, 12 Jun:
On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Uri Even-Chen wrote:
I don't agree with you, Geoff. What Richard Stallman does as a
private person does not mean the FSF in involved. As a
Are you going to start that discussion again?
Everyone said their opinion and nothing new was added for quite a few emails
now.
Maybe we should just let it die out?
Ely
2011/6/15 Erez D erez0...@gmail.com
2011/6/15 Ira Abramov lists-linux...@ira.abramov.org
Quoting geoffrey mendelson, from
On Jun 15, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Ira Abramov wrote:
you know, there IS a logical falacy of guilt by association.
There may be, but there is a clear case here, RMS as president of the
FSF has, ex officio (from his office, meaning as the president, not
his desk) said that he was boycotting.
I may act differently if the FSF boycotts israel.
Is the FSF not boycotting Israel? I guess it depends on how you see things,
but when Stallman signs on a letter as President of the FSF that he will
not come to Israel unless it is at a venue that sponsors an anti-Israel
boycott, I don't know
On Wednesday 15 June 2011 at 15:56:03 (GMT+2) Ira Abramov Lists-Linux-
i...@ira.abramov.org wrote:
Quoting geoffrey mendelson, from the post of Sun, 12 Jun:
On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Uri Even-Chen wrote:
I don't agree with you, Geoff. What Richard Stallman does as a
private person does
On Wednesday 15 June 2011 at 16:18:42 (GMT+2) Erez D
erez0...@gmail.com wrote:
2011/6/15 Ira Abramov lists-linux...@ira.abramov.org
Quoting geoffrey mendelson, from the post of Sun, 12 Jun:
On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Uri Even-Chen wrote:
I don't agree with you, Geoff. What Richard
I would have been happy to say this thread had run it's course, but this
response from RMS and (his apparent associate / organizer) Kobi Snitz is
too much.
Mr. Snitz advises both myself and RMS that in order to make sure the talk in
Israel meets the standards of the BDS-supporting organization
I have been reading quite a lot of messages about this topic. I feel (and
this is my feeling only) that it has been talked enough. Mr. Stallman
doesn't want to be here. He doesn't care about the other side of the story,
and he is so much about his own religion, that he forgets that each coin has
Enough already.
The RMS thread-craze is *clearly* against the rules and guide-lines of
Linux-IL mailing list, as it has little to do (if any) with, and I quote
Linux related *questions* and *discussions* (emphasis mine).
ML owner: Time to intervene?
- Gilboa
On Monday 13 June 2011 at 15:53:39 (GMT+2) Gilboa Davara
gilb...@gmail.com wrote:
Enough already.
The RMS thread-craze is *clearly* against the rules and guide-lines
of Linux-IL mailing list, as it has little to do (if any) with, and
I quote Linux related *questions* and *discussions*
On Jun 10, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Marc Volovic wrote:
People, RMS (as well as any other person) is entitled to support,
adhere, acquiesce or abhor, deny, etc any and all BDS activities.
The man is entitled to his opinion and choice. It is his right as a
man and as a public figure.
Marc, it
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 09:45:33AM +0300, geoffrey mendelson wrote:
On Jun 10, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Marc Volovic wrote:
People, RMS (as well as any other person) is entitled to support,
adhere, acquiesce or abhor, deny, etc any and all BDS activities.
The man is entitled to his opinion and
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 09:45, geoffrey mendelson
geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jun 10, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Marc Volovic wrote:
People, RMS (as well as any other person) is entitled to support, adhere,
acquiesce or abhor, deny, etc any and all BDS activities.
The man is entitled to
On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Uri Even-Chen wrote:
I don't agree with you, Geoff. What Richard Stallman does as a
private person does not mean the FSF in involved. As a private
person Richard Stallman has the right to boycott Israeli
institutions and universities. It does not mean that
Being significantly less conversant with US corporate law than e.g. Israeli
corporate law, I'll take your comments at face value.
Is RMS, by agreeing to the conditions set by the financial contributors to his
visit, in violation of US law? Mind - to the best of my understanding - he has
not
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Marc Volovic marcvolo...@me.com wrote:
Being significantly less conversant with US corporate law than e.g. Israeli
corporate law, I'll take your comments at face value.
Is RMS, by agreeing to the conditions set by the financial contributors to
his visit, in
On Sunday 12 June 2011 at 22:24:54 (GMT+2) Oleg Goldshmidt
p...@goldshmidt.org wrote:
f FSF falls under the anti-boycott law (and I don't know that) then
not only must RMS refuse to visit the PA, he (i.e., FSF) must report
the request (this is the legal term in the context) to the US
On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:35 PM, Stan Goodman wrote:
My guess is that the anti-boycott law has nothing to do with FSF or
any
other voluntary organization (like what is called amutah in Hebrew),
which is what I understand FSF to be.
They are a 501 c 3 corporation, which limits prevents them
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 22:35, Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.comwrote:
My guess is that the anti-boycott law has nothing to do with FSF or any
other voluntary organization (like what is called amutah in Hebrew),
which is what I understand FSF to be.
As far as I know, there is a law in
I do not think what he is doing is necessary illegal, especially since he
leaves open the option of a 'bidding war', where someone else pays his
expenses, but the way he handled this issue is very clumsy and unfortunate.
As I had said before, he should have checked with his sponsor before
offering
After Dr. Richard M. Stallman (RMS) cancelled his lecture at the University
of Haifa I tried to arrange an alternative meeting hall for him. Like some
other people I thought that all that was required was not an Israeli
university or perhaps not a prominent symbol of the state.
Yesterday
I think RMS does not have any intention of speaking, and is the OSS/FSF?GNU
version of what is known as a cock-tease, though he seems more like a plain
schmuck from a distance.
He should not speak, nor even visit Israel. He should support freedom of
expression in the west bank and Gaza by staying
One can think of a few action plans:
1. Who cares? RMS is known to be somewhat awkward, and his behavior of
hey I'm coming, oh, I'm coming only if it is not a univ., oh, wait a
second, I cannot come unless this is the boycott offices in Israel,
does not add to him much.
The advantage of this
On Friday 10 June 2011 at 16:35:43 (GMT+2) Tom Balazs
tom123onl...@gmail.com wrote:
After Dr. Richard M. Stallman (RMS) cancelled his lecture at the
University of Haifa I tried to arrange an alternative meeting hall
for him. Like some other people I thought that all that was required
was not
[a whole pile of claptrap, including previously written and quoted claptrap,
snipped]
People, RMS (as well as any other person) is entitled to support, adhere,
acquiesce or abhor, deny, etc any and all BDS activities.
(Some of) Your moral outrage is not a whit less ridiculous that agreement.
I am not worried about his opinion, but his support of a boycott of Israel,
and the fact that I have to rely on him for support of products I use.
As far as I am concerned, my present view (after RMS and Mint) is that OSS
is something to support as long as there is a commercial alternative. If in
Dear Stan,
You are, indeed, entitled to as much freedom and opportunity to BDS Israel for
its criminal policies and proclivities.
You are, indeed, entitled to as much freedom and opportunity to BDS RMS and
others for their BDS'ing Israel.
Just, please, try to do so without speechifying with a
Ah, Dear Stan, how appropriate and typical to your line of argumentation.
Hail! You are a true representative of your cause.
M
On Jun 11, 2011, at 6:44 AM, Stan Goodman wrote:
On Saturday 11 June 2011 at 06:30:36 (GMT+2) Marc Volovic
marcvolo...@me.com wrote:
Dear Stan,
You are,
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