[LUTE] Re: Francisque

2020-09-04 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Hi Tristan and all, "Le Trésor d'Orphée" is a very popular print with players interested in the music of the early 17th century, different from Vallet, Besard or Ballard. It is one of my frequent sources to perform from, but I would certainly not qualify its difficulty "moderate" !!! For

[LUTE] Re: Fancy by John Danyel

2020-09-03 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Surprises to come in keeping with this particular aspect of things in our future programme of Elizabethan lute duets with A Due Liuti called «The Marygolde», with a good deal of our own reconstructions or adaptations respecting the style prevailing then ! Stay tuned ! Jean-Marie > Le 3 sept.

[LUTE] Re: future of the lute

2020-08-28 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Agreed but I maybe partial here ! Jean-Marie > Le 28 août 2020 à 00:00, Alain Veylit a écrit : > > I beg to differ - see Tous les matins du monde > > >> On 8/27/20 2:41 PM, tristanvonneum...@gmx.de wrote: >> him. >> >>A good Early Music movie has yet to be made... > > > > To get on

[LUTE] Re: future of the lute

2020-08-27 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
of the most gifted students of Hoppy Smith and deserves a much better recognition. There are talented people everywhere and that’s a very good thing indeed ! The lute is undergoing a strong revival and that rejoices me a lot as it proves the older generation did a hell of a good job ! Jean-Marie

[LUTE] Re: The lute list is retiring soon

2020-08-22 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Sad news indeed but I do wish you all the very best for your retirement and thank you so much for your fine contribution to our little plucking microcosm. I hope this list will eventually find a way to continue ! Thank you Wayne for all the good work ! Jean-Marie Poirier > >> On

[LUTE] Re: Eysert MS

2020-08-17 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Indeed :-D !!! Jean-Marie Le 17/08/2020 à 13:32, Christopher Stetson a écrit : Not for the faint of heart! Chris. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Help requested !

2020-06-13 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Got it !!! Thank you so much Arthur Ness !!! Best wishes to all, Jean-Marie Le 13/06/2020 à 13:13, Jean-Marie Poirier a écrit : I would be very grateful if a good soul among you all could send me (private mail of course)  a pdf copy of : Philip Van Wilder, "Si vous voulez", c

[LUTE] Help requested !

2020-06-13 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
t my hands on ! Thank you in advance for your precious help, looking forward to hearing from you. All the best, Jean-Marie Poirier To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Transposing/transcribing in fronimo.

2020-02-26 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
I have been using this tool for years !!! ;-) Jean-Marie > Le 26 févr. 2020 à 19:33, Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. a écrit : > > You may already know this, but transcription from one instrument (or tuning) > to another can be done pretty easily through fronimo. Say you start with a > version for

[LUTE] Re: Realizing a passible continuo line...

2020-02-05 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
I agree with Konstantin on that! Monteverdi is half way between modality and tonality whereas Campion is completely tonal already... Best wishes, Jean-Marie > Le 5 févr. 2020 à 13:09, Konstantin Shchenikov a > écrit : > >  Mr. Hodgson, > You certainly have your right to disagree. Could

[LUTE] Re: Ballard 1612

2020-02-02 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Incidentally, on this topic of airs spirituels in France in the 17th century, the French musicologist Denise Launay on her book « La Musique Religieuse en France du Concile de Trente à 1804 » dévotes a whole chapter, with lots of examples, to these collections for one voice with or without

[LUTE] Re: Ballard 1612

2020-02-02 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Dear Stewart and all, This title block with a left handed lute and a flute opposite was much used by the Ballard printing firm in the 1630s. especially for these collections of airs spirituels, a very popular genre encouraged by the Contre-Réforme in France. There are quite a few books of those

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: SLW typesets

2020-01-15 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Now for sale at "Le Luth Doré". :-( Jean-Marie Le 15/01/2020 à 19:00, Roman Turovsky a écrit : Dear collective wisdom, What ever happened to the J.D.Forget's Weiss typesets? RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Fuenllana "author. D."

2020-01-15 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Sorry Difici with only 1 f in Spanish ;-)! > Le 15 janv. 2020 à 17:02, Ralf Mattes a écrit : > >  > >> Am 15.01.2020 um 16:23 schrieb Mumin Lute : >> >> Dear collective wisdom, >> This could be ridiculously silly question because of my lack of some >> very basic knowledge, but it would be

[LUTE] Re: Fuenllana "author. D."

2020-01-15 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
F = facil (easy) and D = difficile (difficult) which clearly shows how subjective the concept of easy/ difficult could be ;-) ! Best, Jean-Marie > Le 15 janv. 2020 à 17:02, Ralf Mattes a écrit : > >  > >> Am 15.01.2020 um 16:23 schrieb Mumin Lute : >> >> Dear collective wisdom, >> This

[LUTE] Re: Milan's name

2020-01-06 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Loud and clear indeed ! Thank you, Antonio, for this superbly documented thread on Don Milan ! I enjoyed it a lot. All the best, Jean-Marie Poirier Le 06/01/2020 à 20:21, Antonio Corona a écrit : Dear Ron I`m sorry if my position is unclear. It would be foolish to claim that Milan

[LUTE] Re: modern lute editions

2019-12-22 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Dear Martyn, I must beg to differ on that one. I, personally, prefer to play from original tabs including German tab, but I have seen too many students, not advanced students of course, who gave up in front of a facsimile tab. So, although I agree on the advantages of playing from original

[LUTE] Re: modern lute editions

2019-12-22 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
keep up the good work! Jean-Marie Poirier > Le 22 déc. 2019 à 00:49, Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. a écrit : > >  As a major purveyor of modern lute editions, I feel I need to answer > the question of "Why do it?", in the era of readily available > facsimiles. > Of

[LUTE] Re: Dd.5.20

2019-08-25 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
er > Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 7:15 PM > To: Lute Net > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dd.5.20 > >> On 25.08.2019 19:37, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote: >> Unfortunately not, so far, Stewart... >> >>> Le 25/08/2019 à 19:29, Stewart McCoy a écrit : >>> The book wa

[LUTE] Re: Dd.5.20

2019-08-25 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Unfortunately not, so far, Stewart... Le 25/08/2019 à 19:29, Stewart McCoy a écrit : The book was to have been published posthumously, but I don't know if it ever was. Stewart McCoy -Original Message- From: Jean-Marie Poirier Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 12:39 PM To: Rainer Cc: Lute

[LUTE] Re: Dd.5.20

2019-08-25 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Lyle’s mistake obviously! I have a good copy from the library and “Holburnes farewell” in on folio 6r! Best, Jean-Marie > Le 25 août 2019 à 11:26, Rainer a écrit : > > Dear lute netters, > > I wonder if anybody out there is familiar with the Cambridge consort books > and may be able to help

[LUTE] Re: Hender Robarts Book

2019-08-23 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Bourgaise was a well spread name back then and the spelling sometimes varies to give variants like Bourghaisis or Bourghaise. No evident connection with Bourges... Best, Jean-Marie PS : and yes, the Robarts lute book is a major source for our dear old Ennemond indeed ! > Le 23 août 2019 à

[LUTE] Re: Lute Iconography Database - full release

2019-08-17 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Thank you very much Luke ! Much appreciated ! Best, Jean-Marie > Le 17 août 2019 à 12:22, Luke Emmet a écrit : > > Dear lute list > > I'm pleased to announce that the Lute Iconography Database is now fully > released. A previous version had been circulated last year, but it seemed > that

[LUTE] Re: Requests for new projects

2019-08-08 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Dear Sarge, May I suggest the Mylius lute book now in Krakow (Jagiellonska library), a rare source with lots of interesting stuff inside ! Thanks again and best wishes, Jean-Marie Poirier > Le 7 août 2019 à 23:16, Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. a écrit : > > Hello, everybody! >

[LUTE] Re: RH folk style

2019-08-03 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
;-) Ron, I’m afraid you’re being rather disingenuous... !!! Jean-Marie > Le 3 août 2019 à 13:47, Ron Andrico a écrit : > > <'accords brisés'>? > > Is this yet another contrived modern term that a modern person is > imposing on an antique musical device? > > "The term most frequently

[LUTE] Re: octave strings

2019-07-31 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Probably to get the bass string of the course more present and to avoid this sometimes annoying prevalence of the treble octave, especially in thumb-index passages, but not only... Jean-Marie Le 31/07/2019 à 20:41, Lex Eisenhardt a écrit : Anyone tried this method of octave string

[LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments

2019-07-22 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Ditto ! Thanks Ron ! Jean-Marie Poirier > Le 22 juil. 2019 à 14:01, Ron Andrico a écrit : > > Yes, Howard, I am very good at distilling complex ideas into concise > terms, and I am tempted to stop at saying thanks for your laudatory > statement, barbs and all. But we

[LUTE] Re: Wishful thinking on lute temparaments was Lute Temperaments

2019-07-21 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Good shot, Francesco ;-) ! Jean-Marie Le 21/07/2019 à 12:16, tribioli a écrit : I know only one thing: for me 1/6 comma practically works. No slanted frets nor tastini. I don't bear anymore to play early Renaissance music in equal temperament which on the other hand I use on all

[LUTE] Re: Antonio Reggio (1725-1780)

2019-05-23 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Hi Ed, I met Anthony in Malta over a beer last year! He is a very nice person and he knows everything about Reggio which he edited ! Best, Jean-Marie-Marie > Le 23 mai 2019 à 14:14, Edward Martin a écrit : > > Thank you Martyn, This is indeed most helpful. > Ed > > On Thu, May 23,

[LUTE] Re: Gamut Music

2019-05-15 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Thanks for sharing, Ed ! Very interesting video indeed and a nice Canarie on top of it ;-) ! Best, Jean-Marie Le 15/05/2019 à 17:29, Edward Martin a écrit : Dear ones, The local PBS station in northern Minnesota produced a video on Gamut Music, of which I am affiliated. This

[LUTE] Re: De Visee

2019-05-10 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Amen ! ;-) Jean-Marie > Le 10 mai 2019 à 21:54, Stewart McCoy a écrit : > > In discussing the plucking of strings with or without nails, I think it is > important to keep Thomas Mace, _Musick's Monument_ (1676) in mind. He was, of > course, referring to the lute, not the guitar, but I think

[LUTE] Re: De Visee

2019-05-08 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Piccinini and Mary Burwell's teacher are quite clear about this ! Best, Jean-Marie Le 08/05/2019 à 15:35, magnus andersson a écrit : Do we have any evidence of any historical guitar or theorbo player who explicitly played without fingernails? [1]Skickat frÃ¥n Yahoo Mail för

[LUTE] Re: Reymann

2019-05-02 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Doug ( for Douglas) Towne, a major contributor to the publication of baroque and early baroque lite repertoire. and not only! He was kind enough to translate my article on Gaultier originally published by the French Lute Society and then in the English Lute Society journal ! Thanks again for

[LUTE] Re: theorbo repertoire

2019-04-21 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
ajor and F major. Other keys are much less common." RT On 4/20/2019 4:22 AM, Jean-Marie POIRIER wrote: John Wilson has also Voluntaries in these keys ! Jean-Marie > Message du 19/04/19 23:02 > De : "magnus andersson" [2] >

[LUTE] Re: theorbo repertoire

2019-04-21 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
urprisingly little in A major or A minor, which you would expect to be much-used keys. A reasonable amount in C major and F major. Other keys are much less common." RT On 4/20/2019 4:22 AM, Jean-Marie POIRIER wrote: John Wilson has also Voluntaries in these ke

[LUTE] Re: theorbo repertoire

2019-04-20 Thread Jean-Marie POIRIER
John Wilson has also Voluntaries in these keys ! Jean-Marie > Message du 19/04/19 23:02 > De : "magnus andersson" > A : "Roman Turovsky" , "Lute Net" > Copie à : > Objet : [LUTE] Re: theorbo repertoire > > Dear Roman, > > Not true

[LUTE] Re: GB Lbl ms 16889

2019-04-20 Thread Jean-Marie POIRIER
Ton Arumé (or enrhumé) is nothing but the baroque d minor tuning actually ;-) ! Best, Jean-Marie > Message du 20/04/19 05:24 > De : "Alain Veylit" > A : lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Copie à : > Objet : [LUTE] Re: GB Lbl ms 16889 > >

[LUTE] Re: A new discovery

2019-04-02 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Wonderful news Franco ! I look forward to reading more about this great discovery. Well done indeed ! Best wishes, Jean-Marie > Le 2 avr. 2019 à 17:19, franco pavan a écrit : > > Dear All, > In the last months I had the chance to visit a private archive in > Italy, and I discovered 25

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute duets

2019-03-23 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Hello all, You're very welcome to have a look at my paper on the subject available there : [1]https://www.academia.edu/13379614/French_Baroque_Lute_Duets_in_the _17th_Century Best, Jean-Marie Poirier Le 23 mars 2019 à 18:24, Matthew Daillie <[2]dail...@club-internet

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique -- bending the pinky

2019-03-11 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
If you want please have a look at a webpage I put online a few years ago and with quite a bit of iconographic evidence on that topic. It’s at http://le.luth.free.fr and you will find some different headlines like Renaissance, 17ème siècle, 18ème siécle. The contrasting hand positions is quite

[LUTE] Re: Il primo libro d'intavolatura di liuto Galilei repeat bars

2019-01-06 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
My attitude is to decide what makes most sense, musically and rhythmically speaking... They did not use, as we do now, first and second repeats. But an upbeat is always an upbeat and must be played accordingly with sometimes a good dose of diplomatic editing to make things fit properly ;-)!

[LUTE] Re: LuteScribe 1.0 released

2019-01-03 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Wonderful job! Thank you so much, Luke ! Best wishes, Jean-Marie Poirier > Le 3 janv. 2019 à 17:42, Luke Emmet a écrit : > > Dear Lute List > > After many months of updates following user feedback over the beta program > that has run over 2018, I'm pleased to announce t

[LUTE] Re: A very nice post abiut Diana Poulton

2018-12-13 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Actually there is a quote from Thea Abbott’s biography and a link to her book at Smokehouse Press, which is indeed better than nothing ! Jean-Marie > Le 13 déc. 2018 à 09:34, Luca Manassero a écrit : > > > On Walter Bitner's > blog: [1]https://walterbitner.com/2018/12/10/diana-poulton/ >

[LUTE] Re: A very nice post abiut Diana Poulton

2018-12-13 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
I'm surprised Mr Bitner doesn't even mention the superb biography written by Thea Abbott and available here : [1]http://www.smokehousepress.co.uk/diana.htm Thea did a very thorough job of investigation and her biography of Diana Poulton is a model of the genre... Jean-Marie

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-11 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
..only after a couple of schnaps ! :-) Jean-Marie -- >..and in German tablature :) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Da Milano

2018-12-11 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Yes, we definitely are !!! ;-) Jean-Marie -- > I'm sure, we are ALL extremely thankful for your gargantuan work with > tablature conversion! To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 5 of the 6 Dresden Weiss volumes are online now

2018-11-10 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Thank you for the heads up, Markus ! All the best, Jean-Marie -- >Dear friends, >today I found out, that 5 of the 6 Dresden volumes are online now. > >http://digital.slub-dresden.de/werkansicht/dlf/276092 >http://digital.slub-dresden.de/werkansicht/dlf/92747

[LUTE] Re: music stands

2018-10-17 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
K & M - German made -are the best ! Jean-Marie -- >Can anyone recommend a good traditional metal music stand?  I don't mean >the very heavy orchestral stand, just a "normal" fold-out one.  I ask >because it seems that they're all made in China and are flimsy and >unstable.  I

[LUTE] Re: QUESTION about LUBIN BAUGIN's tableau

2018-09-06 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
for this instrument in the library at Ulm in Germany, some of the pieces signed by a certain Laroussière. Best wishes from France, Jean-Marie Poirier -- >Hi, >this is a question about an oil picture by Lubin Baugin (1612-1633): >Nature morte à l'échiquier, huile sur panneau,

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: London Weiss manuscript is online

2018-06-20 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
same here "error retrieving pdf"... :-( Jean-Marie -- > I get "error retrieving pdf" :( > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Markus Lutz <[1]mar...@gmlutz.de> > wrote: > > Dear Matthew, did that work for you? > Tim and also me tested it, and it didn't work. > But

[LUTE] Re: Pacoloni

2018-05-22 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
arallel fourths and even in parallel fifths that I've > become suspicious these trios actually are duets with alternative > second parts. > Mathias > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[3]lute-arc@cs.dartmouth. >

[LUTE] Re: Pacoloni

2018-05-22 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
m > > > > >-Original-Nachricht----- >Betreff: [LUTE] Pacoloni >Datum: 2018-05-22T16:48:13+0200 >Von: "Jean-Marie Poirier" <jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> >An: "'Lute List'" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > >Dear collective wisdom, > >Would any

[LUTE] Pacoloni

2018-05-22 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Dear collective wisdom, Would anyone on this list know of a dissertation or Ph. D. about the works of Giovanni Pacoloni, particularly his pieces for 3 lutes ? Thank you in advance for any help you can give me ! All the best, Jean-Marie Poirier To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: The article by Annette Otterstedt about David Dolata's book about tuning

2018-05-15 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Well put Stewart ! I like Dolata's book too and I think he is quite fair with all sorts of possible temperaments and choices for well informed performers. I was also surprised by the tone of this review and it doesn’t change a bit my first appreciation of Dolata’s book, probably the best on the

[LUTE] Re: lute tuning

2018-05-14 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
A quite comprehensive and masterful demonstration, Martin ! Thank you !!! Best wishes, Jean-Marie -- >Hi All, > >Without wishing to prolong a kind of flame war on ET versus everything >else, having written the following by way of explanation to someone it >occurred to me that it

[LUTE] Re: Left thumb on the sixth.

2018-04-26 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Have a look there : [1]http://le.luth.free.fr/pouce/index.html Best, Jean-Marie Le 26 avr. 2018 à 20:47, Ron Andrico <[2]praelu...@hotmail.com> a écrit : Using the thumb to fret the sixth course was absolutely an element of 16th century lute playing, based on

[LUTE] Re: Latest book in viel ton outside Italy

2018-04-09 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
It was written in France by a Frenchman, dated 1654... Dowloadable there : http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k?rk=21459;2 Best, Jean-Marie -- >And you call this a book published outside Italy? > >Rainer > >Wer lesen kann, ist klar im Vorteil... > >On 09.04.2018 17:08,

[LUTE] Re: Goffriller

2018-03-18 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Hi all, Wasn’t this Goffriller copy made by Jacob Van de Geest rather than Nico Van der Waals...? Best, Jean-Marie > Le 15 mars 2018 à 20:29, Edward Martin a écrit : > > Dear ones, > > I reside in Northern Minnesota, and in a few days we will have a cello > concert

[LUTE] Re: Goffriller

2018-03-16 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Of course I meant “Nico” not Nice !!! Sorry ! And the German lutenist Nico is living with is Sigrun Richter. I visited them in Italy last summer and played a duet concert there with Sigrun. They are very nice people! Best, Jean-Marie > Le 16 mars 2018 à 08:23, Jean-Marie Poirier <j

[LUTE] Re: Goffriller

2018-03-16 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Yes Nice is alive and well. He is presently making a lute for me which I should receive in October... 8 course after Tieffenbrucker (from a private collection in London). All the best, Jean-Marie > Le 16 mars 2018 à 04:39, Edward Martin a écrit : > > Thanks Daniel. >

[LUTE] Re: Mylius - again

2018-03-03 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Oh, you do ! JM -- >On 03.03.2018 12:11, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote: >> They are both in the Music Supplement to Lute News 96 (December 2010) edited >> by John H. Robinson. > >I know - of course. > >Rainer > > > >To get on or off

[LUTE] Re: Mylius - again

2018-03-03 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
They are both in the Music Supplement to Lute News 96 (December 2010) edited by John H. Robinson. Best, Jean-Marie (expecting his copy of the Mylius book from Biblioteka Jagiellonska...) -- >Dear lute netters, > >as I have posted some time ago. Mylius is most famous for his

[LUTE] Re: Did you know that...

2018-02-09 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Two major sources for ensemble music of the early 17th century ! Downloadable from Gallica : Rés. F. 494 : http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k103658m.r=R%C3%A9s.%20F.%20494?rk=21459;2 Rés. F. 496 : http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k107417b.r=R%C3%A9s.%20F%20496?rk=21459;2Best, Jean-Marie

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-07 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
eep > hanging. Tres bien. That's the way! Ce est le route? > G. > On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 11:20 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier > <[1]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote: > Jaroslaw > I do agree with you and the study of past mentalities and culture has > been my daily bread f

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-07 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
cques Gaultier who was mentioned in Van der Burgh letter to Huygens. > BTW. I never wrote that Jacques Gaultier was related to Enemond, so don’t > know were is this supposition from…Enemond probably visited English court, > but it can’t be compared to Jacques’s contribution into English court

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2018-02-07 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
beautiful piece anyway ! All the best, Jean-Marie -- >Dear Jean-Marie, >Let me be the first, hoping that your PC opens Fronimo files. >Mathias > > > >-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >Von: Jean-Marie Poirier [mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr] >Gese

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2018-02-07 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
"SORRY FOR THE TYPO" :-D -- >ooops ! Sorry fothe typo : "except the odd mistake"... >Classical flat tuning here A D g b flat d f, supposing a lute in A... > >Jean-Marie > > >-- > >>Sorry Mathias, but except the opddmistake here and there, I don't see >>anything

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2018-02-07 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
ooops ! Sorry fothe typo : "except the odd mistake"... Classical flat tuning here A D g b flat d f, supposing a lute in A... Jean-Marie -- >Sorry Mathias, but except the opddmistake here and there, I don't see anything >strange about the 3rd course in this piece which I love and

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2018-02-07 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Sorry Mathias, but except the opddmistake here and there, I don't see anything strange about the 3rd course in this piece which I love and play regularly. It sure could be a transcription from the old tuning. When I have the time, I will try to transcribe it back to old tuning ;-) ! Just to

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-06 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Just a reminder : Jacques Gaultier fled to England c. 1617 because he had murdered a noble man on the Continent. As early as 1618 he was imprisoned in the Tower of London for no clear reason... He got away with it and managed to get appointed as one of Henriette-Marie's musicians in 1625 and

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

2018-02-03 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
They Montmorency family JM > Le 3 févr. 2018 à 20:19, G. C. a écrit : > > I forgot, there is a lengthy passage in Mathew Spring's book about this > matter. And also interesting is, that there is a connection with lord > Herbert and Ennemond with the Mont...(?) family.

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

2018-02-02 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
re) is the more likely > author of the Adieu. > I could not find the references to Cherbury on Peter Stueur's site > alas... (I wonder if the Vorhandene Manuskripte table could be given > its own page with more descriptive titles associated with the sources > numbers...) >

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

2018-02-02 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
nd the references to Cherbury on Peter Stueur's site > alas... (I wonder if the Vorhandene Manuskripte table could be given > its own page with more descriptive titles associated with the sources > numbers...) > Alain > > On 02/02/2018 02:55 AM, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote: &

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-02 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
an von Neumann >><[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote: >> >> Do I get stoned by the community if I say that I like Ballard > more >> anyway? :) >>> Am 02.02.2018 um 00:36 schrieb Jean-Marie Poirier: >>> En guise de conclusion ;-) :

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-02 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
We do learn at all ages indeed ;-)! Au passage, thank you Alain for all your hard work so useful to all of us ! Jen-Marie > Le 2 févr. 2018 à 11:10, G. C. a écrit : > > I was not aware of lord Herbert's Jacques Gaultier extradition letter > (found on Alain's site). The

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
wrote: >>Stoning is medieval, appropriate only hundreds of years before... >>Susan >>On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 6:46 PM Tristan von Neumann >><[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote: >> >> Do I get stoned by the community if I say that I like Ballar

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
En guise de conclusion ;-) : If you look at the chronological development of Ennemond’s career and life, his “his high reputation” as a baroque lute super hero simply doesn’t hold. So there must be other material around to explain this phenomenon. Cherbury is only one piece in the puzzle and

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
:-) ! > Le 1 févr. 2018 à 22:53, G. C. a écrit : > > PS. > And of course, I meant to say "you and Jean-Marie" SORRY! :D > On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:27 PM, G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: > >Great that you feel that way, Ron. I'm just saying, that >

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
That would be marvelous indeed ! Best wishes, Jean-Marie > Le 1 févr. 2018 à 20:05, Nancy Carlin a > écrit : > > Yes, I was the LSA's 2nd Microfilm Librarian back starting c1975, and I > have a number of binders with paper copies made from films. Now if

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Thank you for you excellent and very useful work Peter! All the best, Jean-Marie Poirier Le 1 févr. 2018 à 21:14, Petrus Paulus Maria Steur <[1]p.st...@inrim.it> a écrit : Dear all, some of you might have a look at my enlarged website [2]mss.slweiss.de

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
. > Best wishes > G. > On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 2:03 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier > <[1]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote: > > Dear Göran, > I do certainly lean towards Ennemond, and most probably not Jacques, > as Cherbury did not support the latter aft

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Dear Göran, I do certainly lean towards Ennemond, and most probably not Jacques, as Cherbury did not support the latter after he sought refuge in England to escape the King's justice and a certain death for the murder of a noble man in France ! Sorry Thurston ;-) ! In my recent article in the

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-31 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
No significant progress so far... Jean-Marie -- >The last I heard all the hard work had been done but they were waiting >to break even on the Matthew Holmes manuscript before publishing. This >was already some time ago. > >Best, > >Matthew > >On 31/01/2018 11:54, Rainer wrote: >>

[LUTE] Re: Double first courses (chanterelles)

2018-01-22 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Contemporary Mexican folk song "De la arena nace el agua" !!! "La vihuela" here to be understood like a guitar... (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_vihuela) All the best, Jean-Marie -- >“Se me revento la prima, >la segunda y la tercera >con los rizos de mi amada >voy a

[LUTE] Re: Dowland Farewell

2018-01-17 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
https://www.academia.edu/ seems a good choice. I look forward to reading your essay ! Best, Jean-Marie Poirier -- > Dear Collected Wisdom, > I am about to finish writing an essay on John Dowland's Farewell. > My writing is about the formal analysis on motivic de

[LUTE] Re: Vallet's quartets

2018-01-13 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
t; --- > Fine Art Paintings > Anke Reyerman > www.anke-reyerman.de > >> Am 13.01.2018 um 19:06 schrieb Jean-Marie Poirier: >> About Vallet’s quartets: with my ensemble “Le Concert du sieur Ballard” we >> do play them regularly and came to the conclusion that there are v

[LUTE] Re: Vallet's quartets

2018-01-13 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
About Vallet’s quartets: with my ensemble “Le Concert du sieur Ballard” we do play them regularly and came to the conclusion that there are very few “mistakes” indeed. Anne Van Royen’s edition is excellent and with very diplomatic corrections. Very nice music to play ! Jean-Marie > Le 13 janv.

[LUTE] Re: Ballard 1614

2018-01-11 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Dear Nancy, When you are on the site of the Ballard print online, you have a button at the bottom right of the page (last button ont he right) that you must press and than you enter the numbers "1-10" as you can't download more than 10 pages at a time and press the right button marked

[LUTE] Re: Ballard 1614

2018-01-11 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Thank you Rainer ! Wonderful indeed !!! Best, Jean-Marie -- >Dear lute netters, > >as most of you probably know this books was been inaccessible for decades. > >It is on-line now: > >https://vivaldi.nlr.ru/bn10585/view > >Rainer > >PS > >There is even a download button :) >

[LUTE] Re: Chromatic lute works

2017-12-17 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
You mean « la mendiante » Francesco! A nice piece indeed ;-)! Best wishes, Jean-Marie > Le 17 déc. 2017 à 09:30, "tribi...@arcetri.astro.it" > a écrit : > > Also Nicolas Vallet, fantasia mediante. Very beautiful > Francesco > - Rispondi al messaggio - >

[LUTE] Re: Titelouze

2017-12-14 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Another interesting quote about the power of music, very similar to Pontus de Tyard, if not purely lifted from him : taken from Essay des Merveilles de Natures, 1622, p. 503. Can be seen there, from Gallica : https://tinyurl.com/y9cbqwqj Jean-Marie -- > Thanks to translators

[LUTE] Re: not about strings !

2017-12-14 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Georges, Walsh Stuart did it before I could do anything ! The end of the paragraph you quoted is worth reading too : "Secondement les esprits de ce temps sont préocupez de tant de vanité, d'ambition et d'avarice, que la musique ne trouve plus lieu pour s'i loger puissament, de sorte que pour

[LUTE] Re: A stringing question for Sellas E. 545 - Puget

2017-12-13 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
informations from François-Pierre Goy. > >Ballard printed an anthology in 1707 with music by Gautier de Marseille, but >it’s not in Gallica. > >All the best, > >Andreas > >> Am 13.12.2017 um 16:10 schrieb Jean-Marie Poirier <jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr>: >> >

[LUTE] Re: A stringing question for Sellas E. 545 - Puget

2017-12-13 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Andreas, I am very curious to know about the arrangments for lute of 5 pieces by G. de Marseille that you mention... Where are they preserved ? All the best, Jean-Marie -- >Here an important text on the picture by Puget: > >Marie-Christine Gloton: Pierre et François Puget.

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2017-12-10 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
onderful pieces in d minor, which I love and play, but I simply want to question the traditional presentation of Gaultier as a rather monolithic monument of the baroque tuning, which for me he is not ! I think his contribution was much more complex and deep than it actually appears... Best wishes,

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2017-12-10 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
stions as open questions, if there are no very string reasons to attribute a piece to a certain Gaultier. 2. Jean-Marie Poirier suggested in his „answer" to G.C.'s question „So did Denis could pass on works of Ennemond as being his own and not only transcribing them fro

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2017-12-10 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
is far from having delivered all its secrets ! Best wishes to all, Jean-Marie Poirier -- > Hi, > > Â > > I don't think one can accuse Denis of having "hijacked" or "passed on > works by Ennemond as his own". On the contrary

[LUTE] Re: Mus.Hs.17706 Sammlung von Lautentabulaturen von verschiedenen Komponisten

2017-12-07 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Excellent! Thank you so much for your wonderful work, David! > Le 7 déc. 2017 à 09:08, David Smith a écrit : > > I received a request recently about this manuscript and went ahead and > downloaded it. There are a LOT of blank pages and the theorbo parts > start at

[LUTE] Re: Rewarding Renaissance Lute repertoire

2017-12-05 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
:-D !!! Jean-Marie -- >Nancy, > >I hope this is an intentional typo, it is quite poetic: > >On 12/05/2017 07:04 AM, Nancy Carlin wrote: > > new Figital Music Supplement, > >To get on or off this list see list information at >http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Rewarding Renaissance Lute repertoire

2017-12-04 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Da Milano for sure but also Vallet for me and most of the transitional tunings repertoire (Mesangeau, Dufaut, Bouvier, Chancy) Jean-Marie -- >Here's a poll for Renaissance Lutists - > >what do you consider most rewarding to play in terms of playability >combined with beauty? >So

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