[LUTE] Re: Picture(s) of a Theorbo originally built by Pietro Raillich

2019-08-18 Thread magnus andersson
Dear Luca, dear David, dear Howard, thanks for the infos! It is indeed interesting- checking the lautenweltadressbuch database, entering "G" as type and looking for instruments with more than, say, 80 cm long petit jeu, I could only find the Berlin instrument by Koch and the

[LUTE] Lute Fringe at Utrecht Oude Muziek

2019-08-18 Thread Konstantin Shchenikov
Dear Colleagues, I kindly invite those of you who are in NL on my Fringe recitals at Utrecht Oude Muziek festival next weekend! My program calls "Portraits of the Renaissance". âPortraits' means here not only specific english genre of musical portrait (like «Queen Elizabeth

[LUTE] Re: Lute + recorder

2019-08-18 Thread James Stimson
The London Pro Musica editions of then-popular pieces with divisions by Bassano (with lute tablature) are particularly good. Jim Stimson -Original Message- From: David van Ooijen Cc: lutelist Net Sent: Sat, Aug 17, 2019 4:15 pm Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute + recorder

[LUTE] Re: new 7c lute for sale

2019-08-18 Thread Rainer
Of course, I immediately checked which piece you are playing here : It is No. 27b in my edition, Dd.2.11, f. 89r I noticed that you ignore almost all those "ornaments" in this pieces (in my edition I have omitted all "ornaments"). Today I would probably include them with an appropriate

[LUTE] new 7c lute for sale

2019-08-18 Thread Martin Shepherd
Hi All, I have a new 7c lute for sale.  To see and hear it: www.luteshop.co.uk/forsale Best wishes to All, Martin --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Picture(s) of a Theorbo originally built by Pietro Raillich

2019-08-18 Thread Luca Manassero
Dear Magnus, thank you for all these interesting points. Personally, I fully agree (as you may have noticed from my remark about all these theorbos showing 8 fretted single courses...) I think I saw the seven course Koch theorbo in Berlin, being now nearly ein Berliner, I

[LUTE] Re: Picture(s) of a Theorbo originally built by Pietro Raillich

2019-08-18 Thread magnus andersson
Dear Luca, Yes, I forgot to write, I also own a copy of Schelleâs 1728 instrument, made by Ivo Magherini. Tuned in d minor, as you mention, without the high f course, it's an extremely effective instrument which works fantastic for the German late baroque repertoire. Highly

[LUTE] Re: Picture(s) of a Theorbo originally built by Pietro Raillich

2019-08-18 Thread howard posner
> On Aug 18, 2019, at 10:22 AM, David Van Edwards > wrote: > > There are of course several luiti attiorbati in > Paris with 7 fingered courses but one of them > looks a bit theorbo-ish and might be the one > you're thinking of. It's anonymous E.25 (C228) 13 > courses 1x1, 6x2 @ 710mm +

[LUTE] Re: Picture(s) of a Theorbo originally built by Pietro Raillich

2019-08-18 Thread David Van Edwards
Dear Howard, The Tielke is a bizarre German baroque swan neck style job with an extremely long neck probably the result of a conversion by Bachmann in 1760. The Tieffenbrucker is another swan neck instrument resulting from a conversion possibly by Fux though 1696 is a bit early unless it

[LUTE] Re: Picture(s) of a Theorbo originally built by Pietro Raillich

2019-08-18 Thread David Van Edwards
Dear Luca, Magnus and Howard, There are of course several luiti attiorbati in Paris with 7 fingered courses but one of them looks a bit theorbo-ish and might be the one you're thinking of. It's anonymous E.25 (C228) 13 courses 1x1, 6x2 @ 710mm + 6x2 @ 1090. Joël's catalogue thinks it was

[LUTE] Re: Picture(s) of a Theorbo originally built by Pietro Raillich

2019-08-18 Thread Yuval Dvoran
I'm not sure if it was stated earlier, but actually Campion makes his teacher Maltot (who is, apart from the appearance in Campion's treatise, completely unknown) responsible for having invented the theorbo with 8 strings/courses on the fretboard, most possibly resulting from the invention of

[LUTE] Re: Picture(s) of a Theorbo originally built by Pietro Raillich

2019-08-18 Thread Luca Manassero
Thank you, Yuval: you're absolutely right. I'm always been really curious about poor Monsieur Maltot, about whom we know absolutely nothing, besides François Campion's citation... Attivato Sun, 18 Aug 2019 18:43:17 +0200 Yuval Dvoran ha scritto I'm not sure if it was

[LUTE] Re: new 7c lute for sale

2019-08-18 Thread Frank A. Gerbode, M.D.
[1]My site has the ornaments. --Sarge On 8/18/2019 02:29, Rainer wrote: Of course, I immediately checked which piece you are playing here : It is No. 27b in my edition, Dd.2.11, f. 89r I noticed that you ignore almost all those "ornaments" in this pieces (in my

[LUTE] Re: new 7c lute for sale

2019-08-18 Thread Martin Shepherd
As Rainer noted in his edition, Holmes often used the # sign to cross out an unwanted note, or to indicate an error, so we cannot assume that they are all ornaments.  As he says, sometimes it is not at all clear what they are.  Sources where there are lots of ornaments (Board, ML, etc) give us

[LUTE] Re: Picture(s) of a Theorbo originally built by Pietro Raillich

2019-08-18 Thread Luca Manassero
Louise Gottsched, who wrote the first biographic article about S. L. Weiss in her husband' BIG "Handlexicon" ("Handlexikon oder kurzgefaßtes Wörterbuch der schönen Wissenschaften und freyen Künste", Leipzig: Gleditsch, 1760), defines the swan neck lute as "theorbieret" (if I

[LUTE] Re: new 7c lute for sale

2019-08-18 Thread Tristan von Neumann
I couldn't help but play this piece... Sounds like the Galliard is built on the same model as Can Shee Excuse. On 18.08.19 22:13, Martin Shepherd wrote: As Rainer noted in his edition, Holmes often used the # sign to cross out an unwanted note, or to indicate an error, so we cannot assume

[LUTE] Re: Picture(s) of a Theorbo originally built by Pietro Raillich

2019-08-18 Thread howard posner
> On Aug 18, 2019, at 2:06 PM, David Van Edwards wrote: > > The Tielke is a bizarre German baroque swan neck > style job with an extremely long neck probably > the result of a conversion by Bachmann in 1760. > > The Tieffenbrucker is another swan neck > instrument resulting from a conversion

[LUTE] Re: Picture(s) of a Theorbo originally built by Pietro Raillich

2019-08-18 Thread David Van Edwards
Dear Luca, That's an interesting reference and clearly the term was commonly used in that way since there's even a label in the Unverdorben swan-neck lute in Fenton House which reads: Marx Unverdorben in Venetia 158- [illegible] 161- Gabriel David Buchstetter Lauden und / Geigen-Macher zu

[LUTE] Some New Lute Music

2019-08-18 Thread sterling price
Hi all, Here is a video of me playing my new piece on the baroque lute I built. You shall notice that I am (mostly!) playing thumb out near the bridge. Susan [1]Introduzzione and Allegro by Susan Price (Lute) [youtube.png]