[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria

2009-12-15 Thread Luca Manassero
Dear LuteList friends, I know that my answer could start an infinite flame, but after reading all these angry messages I feel I'd like to comment. Of course I feel sympathetic with all of you, having lost your money and waiting for an answer whatsoever, but let me point out the following:

[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria

2009-12-15 Thread Ron Fletcher
I can symathise with those customers on this list who feel let down by Luciano Faria. One can surmise all kinds of reasons for his lack of response. After three years waiting, I would suggest someone make a personal visit to him to get to the truth. I don't recall his address being published,

[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria

2009-12-15 Thread Mayes, Joseph
I understand. Because we ordered instruments in good faith from a supposed reputable builder, it is some how our fault. Thank you for clearing that up. Joseph Mayes __ From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu on behalf of

[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria

2009-12-15 Thread Luca Manassero
Not at all. Reading all what has been written could help understanding what I am trying to comment. I think you took a risk, motivated by a lower price. A risk is a risk, and sometimes turns the wrong way. OF COURSE, it's not your fault. But sometimes taking a risk shoudl be considered the

[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria

2009-12-15 Thread Robison, John
Hi everyone, Thank you so much for all of your helpful messages!!! Of course I knew the risk of ordering instruments from Faria, and I was hesitant about doing it until I found a couple of people in the US who had received instruments from him. I also do not want to ruin the

[LUTE] 13 course Baroque lute by Klaus Jacobsen for sale

2009-12-15 Thread Anton Birula
A 13 course Baroque lute by Klaus Jacobsen for sale Rather exclusive instrument strung in gut. Pictures: http://www.luteduo.com/instr/6.jpg http://www.luteduo.com/instr/07.jpg Price 6400 EUR Please feel free to ask for more information, Anton Birula www.luteduo.com Price 6400 EUR

[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria

2009-12-15 Thread Bruno Correia
2009/12/15 Luca Manassero [1]l...@manassero.net Dear LuteList friends, - there are plenty of lutemakers in the US and in other parts of the world. Lutemakers with a very strong reputation and (often) reasonable waiting lists; Oh yes, if I earned my living in Euros I

[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria

2009-12-15 Thread howard posner
On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:45 AM, Ron Fletcher wrote: It is better to know the truth than to ruin this man's reputation as a good luthier by speculation and hearsay. The truth, according to several list members who say they have personal knowledge, is that Faria is long overdue in making

[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria

2009-12-15 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
I don't know, but I really don't think your speculation of active, deliberate fraud is accurate Vance. Luciano was actively completing orders until some personal event or events derailed his operation. Earlier, he completed mine and many others without hitch. That's just not the behavior of a

[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria

2009-12-15 Thread demery
I don't know, but I really don't think your speculation of active, deliberate fraud is accurate Vance. I took another look at the website, it lists two forms of contact, telephone, and email. there is no information about terms or any means to detail an order. Yes, prices are listed, being

[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria

2009-12-15 Thread vance wood
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[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria

2009-12-15 Thread vance wood
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[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria

2009-12-15 Thread Allan Alexander
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[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria

2009-12-15 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
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[LUTE] Re: New recording by Lislevand

2009-12-15 Thread Nicolás Valencia
I don't think Lislevand's recording is kitsch, which implies a tasteless music. Perhaps it sounds sometimes New Age, but it's well performed with interesting arrangements. Of course it can shock some conservative ears, but it's a matter of taste. IMO he's trying to do something interesting,

[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria

2009-12-15 Thread howard posner
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[LUTE] Re: New recording by Lislevand

2009-12-15 Thread tiorba
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[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria

2009-12-15 Thread vance wood
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[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria

2009-12-15 Thread howard posner
On Dec 15, 2009, at 10:33 AM, vance wood wrote: Howard: With all due respects I sent your post along with my response to it; see below. However; that in itself is not important. The opinions are my own you only made a remark that spawned my remarks. Your words: It is better to know

[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria

2009-12-15 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Interesting...but that's a guitar, Dana. Eugene -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:04 AM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria I

[LUTE] Closure of VA Instrument Gallery

2009-12-15 Thread Stephen Barber and Sandi Harris
Dear Friends, we have just received the sad and very extraordinary news that one of the world's major collections of historic musical instruments, that of the Victoria Albert Museum, London, is to permanently close on February 22nd 2010. James Yorke, who is the VA staff member who has

[LUTE] Re: Closure of VA Instrument Gallery

2009-12-15 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Shocking! If this must happen, I do hope the instruments end up in places where they can continue to freely serve an interested, albeit too small, public. Eugene Eugene C. Braig IV Artistic Director Phone: 614-561-9204 The Columbus Guitar Society Capital University, Conservatory of Music 1

[LUTE] Re: Closure of VA Instrument Gallery

2009-12-15 Thread Benjamin Narvey
Dear Stephen and Sandi, This is dreadful news - thanks very much for letting the list know about this. I'm wondering if it may not be possible to get a petition going that we could present to the V A directorate, one that may make them reconsider this decision. There are obviously

[LUTE] Re: Closure of VA Instrument Gallery

2009-12-15 Thread David Tayler
This is a national disgrace. In recent years, I have had more and more trouble getting to see the instruments, and access has been sharply limited. This is a very unfortunate trend. dt At 11:17 AM 12/15/2009, you wrote: Dear Friends, we have just received the sad and very extraordinary news

[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria

2009-12-15 Thread Ron Fletcher
The truth that he is long overdue in making instruments and not communicating is not disputed. It is the reason why he does not communicate that could save his reputation. Has his workshop been destroyed in a blaze, earthquake or flood? Is he suffering ill-health (physical/mental), died,

[LUTE] Re: Closure of VA Instrument Gallery

2009-12-15 Thread Luca Manassero
This is an incredibly sad news. I am not sure that it'll help, but the petition page at the European Parliament can be reach here: https://www.secure.europarl.europa.eu/parliament/public/petition/secured/submit.do?language=en

[LUTE] Re: Closure of VA Instrument Gallery

2009-12-15 Thread David van Ooijen
Dear SS Thanks for the, albeit shocking, news. What a shame. Same has happened here, indeed, at the Gemeentemuseum. I played quite a while ago at the opening of an exhibition about musical instruments and art (called Music for the Eye, there's a nice catalogue), accompanying Saskia Coolen who was

[LUTE] Re: Closure of VA Instrument Gallery

2009-12-15 Thread demery
Why do museums with such fine collections not show their wares? speculating, could be economics. Costs to keep display cases at a conservative environment. Museum security and insurance is another issue. Instrument makers might be better served by publications of plans and photos, which

[LUTE] Re: Closure of VA Instrument Gallery

2009-12-15 Thread demery
This is an incredibly sad news. One wonders if Her Majesty could be induced to take an interest? -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Strange instruments (slightly OT)

2009-12-15 Thread Leonard Williams
Slightly OT, but check out these strange instruments in Piero di Cosimo's Perseus Frees Andromeda. http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/p/piero/cosimo/allegory/perseus.html Regards, Leonard Williams To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria

2009-12-15 Thread demery
Interesting...but that's a guitar, Dana. my bad, I saw more than 8 pegs, forgot some g have 5c. But everyone seems to be ignoring my main point. LF has a day job selling rosewood guitar sets wholesale. He ist trying to work FT as a luthier anymore, no surprise he is slow to deliver. I

[LUTE] Re: Closure of VA Instrument Gallery

2009-12-15 Thread Stuart Walsh
I remember only a few years ago going to the VA musical instrument section on a Saturday morning and being asked to leave after about 20 minutes. The reason given was that there was no member of staff available. I was at that time obsessing about 18th century cistres - the VA has a very

[LUTE] Re: Closure of VA Instrument Gallery

2009-12-15 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
I've done a little amateur organology via the Stearns Collection of Michigan. That *could* be quite a resource, but it is grossly under-funded, under-staffed, and lacks adequate facilities. The historic tools of classical music simply don't seem to be valued anymore than the music itself. Too

[LUTE] Re: Strange instruments (slightly OT)

2009-12-15 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Wacky! Some kind of Stroh-zither...? Eugene -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Leonard Williams Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 5:44 PM To: Lute List Subject: [LUTE] Strange instruments (slightly OT) Slightly OT,

[LUTE] Photos von Lute Course in Alteglofsheim, Germany

2009-12-15 Thread Stefan Olof Lundgren
Dear Friends, have a look at your collegues in Germany! http://www.luteonline.se/landshut_1.htm Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Stefan www.luteonline.se -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: New recording by Lislevand

2009-12-15 Thread Mathias Rösel
Quite similar to the nonsense in his Belle Homicide booklet. Mathias tio...@gmail.com schrieb: IMO he's trying to do something interesting, IMO he's trying to do something easy to sell. In his own words: This recording is all about the Italian renaissance, That's ok, at least for the

[LUTE] Re: Closure of VA Instrument Gallery

2009-12-15 Thread sterling price
The VA has my two favorite lutes--the massively ornate J.H. Goldt baroque lute and the almost as impressive Rauch baroque lute. When ever I am in London I make it a point to see themsigh. Sterling - Original Message From: Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com Cc: Lute List

[LUTE] Luciano Faria, for thoes of you who doubt

2009-12-15 Thread Allan Alexander
For those of you who wonder about Luciano getting back to them or if he is still building, I sent him a note asking about a Vihuela and he responded to be within about an hour, Allan ___ Dear Allan, Thank you for your message. I don't have any

[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria, for thoes of you who doubt

2009-12-15 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Wow. Some inquirer should let him know they AREN'T interested until he makes good on his prior obligations. Eugene -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Allan Alexander Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 6:29 PM To:

[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria

2009-12-15 Thread Ed Durbrow
On Dec 16, 2009, at 5:16 AM, Ron Fletcher wrote: A telephone conversation does not qualify in this respect. Why not? Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [1]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp [2]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ -- References 1. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp

[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria, for thoes of you who doubt

2009-12-15 Thread Bruno Correia
Wow! That's really fast! He reads the mails... Anybody still want to order an instrument? 2009/12/15 Allan Alexander [1]guitarandl...@earthlink.net For those of you who wonder about Luciano getting back to them or if he is still building, I sent him a note asking about

[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria, for thoes of you who doubt

2009-12-15 Thread vance wood
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[LUTE] Re: Closure of VA Instrument Gallery

2009-12-15 Thread Robison, John
Hi everyone, Stephen and Sandi have summed up this tragic decision well. Over her in the US, we had a similar event in the early 1980s, when the US congress decided to stop funding the Dayton Miller collection of historical flutes, and the Library of Congress was forced to put