Re: Greek Fonts Part 3 - Günter

2009-12-03 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-12-02, Brian Bosse wrote: You mentioned that I could wait for 1.6.5 to come out, but I would rather not. You also mentioned to copy the file =91unicodesymbols=92 from the system from the system LYXDIR to my personal lyx-dir and apply a patch. I am on a Windows XP system, and found

Re: Greek Fonts Part 3 - Günter

2009-12-03 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-12-02, Brian Bosse wrote: You mentioned that I could wait for 1.6.5 to come out, but I would rather not. You also mentioned to copy the file =91unicodesymbols=92 from the system from the system LYXDIR to my personal lyx-dir and apply a patch. I am on a Windows XP system, and found

Re: Greek Fonts Part 3 - Günter

2009-12-03 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-12-02, Brian Bosse wrote: > You mentioned that I could wait for 1.6.5 to come out, but I would > rather not. > You also mentioned to copy the file =91unicodesymbols=92 > from the system from the system LYXDIR to my personal lyx-dir and apply > a patch. I am on a Windows XP system, and

Re: Greek Fonts in LyX - Günter Milde

2009-12-01 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-12-01, Brian Bosse wrote: Here is one example. When I paste an copy the Greek Unicode text from = the =E2=80=9CAncient Greek=E2=80=9D entry on Wikipedia, the grave = accents and the circumflex simply show up as a box in LyX The accents or characters with accents? You need a

Re: Greek Fonts in LyX - Günter Milde

2009-12-01 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-12-01, Brian Bosse wrote: Here is one example. When I paste an copy the Greek Unicode text from = the =E2=80=9CAncient Greek=E2=80=9D entry on Wikipedia, the grave = accents and the circumflex simply show up as a box in LyX The accents or characters with accents? You need a

Re: Greek Fonts in LyX - Günter Milde

2009-12-01 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-12-01, Brian Bosse wrote: > Here is one example. When I paste an copy the Greek Unicode text from = > the =E2=80=9CAncient Greek=E2=80=9D entry on Wikipedia, the grave = > accents and the circumflex simply show up as a box in LyX The accents or characters with accents? You need a

Re: Greek Fonts in LyX

2009-11-29 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-11-28, Brian Bosse wrote: I am brand new to LyX, and am trying to figure out how to add Greek text to my documents (with proper accents, etc...). Search for Greek at http://wiki.lyx.org My papers are written in English but I often use Biblical Greek. Even though I have spent many

Re: Greek Fonts in LyX

2009-11-29 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-11-28, Brian Bosse wrote: I am brand new to LyX, and am trying to figure out how to add Greek text to my documents (with proper accents, etc...). Search for Greek at http://wiki.lyx.org My papers are written in English but I often use Biblical Greek. Even though I have spent many

Re: Greek Fonts in LyX

2009-11-29 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-11-28, Brian Bosse wrote: > I am brand new to LyX, and am trying to figure out how to add Greek text to > my documents (with proper accents, etc...). Search for Greek at http://wiki.lyx.org > My papers are written in English > but I often use Biblical Greek. Even though I have spent

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-19 Thread G. Milde
On 13.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 13 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: In answer to your previous comments: I tried setting the keyboard to Greek, but it doesn't do anything. Looking at the greek.kmap file I see that it doesn't really contain any

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-19 Thread G. Milde
On 13.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 13 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: In answer to your previous comments: I tried setting the keyboard to Greek, but it doesn't do anything. Looking at the greek.kmap file I see that it doesn't really contain any

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-19 Thread G. Milde
On 13.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 13 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: > > On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: > In answer to your previous comments: I tried setting the keyboard to > Greek, but it doesn't do anything. Looking at the greek.kmap file I see > that it doesn't really contain any

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-18 Thread Pavel Sanda
On 6/8/08, Pavel Sanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what about to setup some wiki page sumarizing greek+lyx issues? I planned to do this in some near future, but prefered to wait for some (more) feedback from the list and give myself some more search-time, before doing so. i setup the wiki

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-18 Thread Pavel Sanda
On 6/8/08, Pavel Sanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what about to setup some wiki page sumarizing greek+lyx issues? I planned to do this in some near future, but prefered to wait for some (more) feedback from the list and give myself some more search-time, before doing so. i setup the wiki

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-18 Thread Pavel Sanda
> On 6/8/08, Pavel Sanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > what about to setup some wiki page sumarizing greek+lyx issues? > > > I planned to do this in some near future, but prefered to wait for > some (more) feedback from the list and give myself some more > search-time, before doing so. i setup

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 12 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: A bit of background to all this: my wife is Greek and needs to type Greek occasionally; she is also a purist about accents etc. (Byzantine enthusiast). She is not happy seeing non-Greek characters on screen. In this case,

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: Yes, I do have dejavu (ttf-dejavu) but I don't know how to tell lyx to use it - it doesn't appear as a choice. But I'm not sure that what I am trying to do is possible in Lyx (see my reply to Gunter below). 1. Does DejaVu appear as a choice in other

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 13 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: Yes, I do have dejavu (ttf-dejavu) but I don't know how to tell lyx to use it - it doesn't appear as a choice. But I'm not sure that what I am trying to do is possible in Lyx (see my reply to Gunter below). 1. Does

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread Pavel Sanda
It is not just the accents but also hyphenation patterns etc. The distinction is similar to german and ngerman (i.e. old and new spelling), only that the reform in Greece was 20 years earlier). OTOH, it can be a big timesave if you can input strange characters as a combination of ASCII

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread G. Milde
On 13.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: * Hyphenation and babel generated strings (like Chapter or Table of Contents) depend on the setting of greek vs. polutonikogreek. Just greek language is *not* enough! i have just tried it and don't see what you mean. i took

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 12 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: A bit of background to all this: my wife is Greek and needs to type Greek occasionally; she is also a purist about accents etc. (Byzantine enthusiast). She is not happy seeing non-Greek characters on screen. In this case,

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: Yes, I do have dejavu (ttf-dejavu) but I don't know how to tell lyx to use it - it doesn't appear as a choice. But I'm not sure that what I am trying to do is possible in Lyx (see my reply to Gunter below). 1. Does DejaVu appear as a choice in other

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 13 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: Yes, I do have dejavu (ttf-dejavu) but I don't know how to tell lyx to use it - it doesn't appear as a choice. But I'm not sure that what I am trying to do is possible in Lyx (see my reply to Gunter below). 1. Does

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread Pavel Sanda
It is not just the accents but also hyphenation patterns etc. The distinction is similar to german and ngerman (i.e. old and new spelling), only that the reform in Greece was 20 years earlier). OTOH, it can be a big timesave if you can input strange characters as a combination of ASCII

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread G. Milde
On 13.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: * Hyphenation and babel generated strings (like Chapter or Table of Contents) depend on the setting of greek vs. polutonikogreek. Just greek language is *not* enough! i have just tried it and don't see what you mean. i took

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 12 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: > A bit of background to all this: my wife is Greek and needs to type > Greek occasionally; she is also a purist about accents etc. (Byzantine > enthusiast). She is not happy seeing non-Greek characters on screen. In this

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: > Yes, I do have dejavu (ttf-dejavu) but I don't know how to tell lyx to > use it - it doesn't appear as a choice. But I'm not sure that what I am > trying to do is possible in Lyx (see my reply to Gunter below). 1. Does DejaVu appear as a choice in other

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 13 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: > On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > > Yes, I do have dejavu (ttf-dejavu) but I don't know how to tell lyx to > > use it - it doesn't appear as a choice. But I'm not sure that what I am > > trying to do is possible in Lyx (see my reply to Gunter below). > >

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread Pavel Sanda
> It is not just the accents but also hyphenation patterns etc. > > The distinction is similar to german and ngerman (i.e. old and new > spelling), only that the reform in Greece was 20 years earlier). > > OTOH, it can be a big timesave if you can input "strange" characters as a > combination

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-13 Thread G. Milde
On 13.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > * Hyphenation and babel generated strings (like "Chapter" or "Table of > > Contents") depend on the setting of "greek" vs. "polutonikogreek". > > > > Just greek language is *not* enough! > i have just tried it and don't see what you mean. i took >

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-12 Thread G. Milde
On 11.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: But this is inconsistent with handling of other extensions. Editing in LyX works even without any tex distribution, still reconfigure checks availability of fonts, classes and packages -- but not inputenc nor ucs. which is a different story then prohibit

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-12 Thread Pavel Sanda
But missing input encodings are not marked (are they?) -- this is what I call inconsistency. yes :) p

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i encountered, please comment on: 1. Screen painting. after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek letters works in lyx without problems. [snip] Not here. I've set

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-12 Thread G. Milde
On 11.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 11 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 11.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: Looks like I shall have to give up trying to write Greek in Lyx and Latex for the time being, unless someone fixes it. Could you try with the two attached latex files? I

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread Pavel Sanda
On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i encountered, please comment on: 1. Screen painting. after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek letters works in lyx without problems. [snip] Not

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~' to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek? please correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this is wrong direction. how will you determine nonbreak. space vs tilde

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Rune Schjellerup Philosof wrote: On some keyboard layouts ~ is a dead key by default (danish for instance). I wonder why tilde is a dead key on danish keyboards, we don't have any chars in our alphabet that use a tilde accent. The same holds for German. I guess someone once

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i encountered, please comment on: 1. Screen painting. after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek letters works in lyx without

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i encountered, please comment on: 1. Screen painting. after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek letters works in

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 12 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: This is not about conversion but display: * If you paste polytonic Greek text from e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_diacritics, this should show up in greek letters with diacritics at the correct place. * If you input latin letters and

RE: greek fonts

2008-06-12 Thread Ad Meskens
Onderwerp: Re: greek fonts On 6/8/08, Ad Meskens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is however a problem when you want to write ancient Greek with hyphens etc; The betababel package and writing bcode in ERT works wonderfully. However handling Dutch seems to be suppressed. When you compile your LyX file

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-12 Thread G. Milde
On 11.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: But this is inconsistent with handling of other extensions. Editing in LyX works even without any tex distribution, still reconfigure checks availability of fonts, classes and packages -- but not inputenc nor ucs. which is a different story then prohibit

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-12 Thread Pavel Sanda
But missing input encodings are not marked (are they?) -- this is what I call inconsistency. yes :) p

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i encountered, please comment on: 1. Screen painting. after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek letters works in lyx without problems. [snip] Not here. I've set

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-12 Thread G. Milde
On 11.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 11 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 11.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: Looks like I shall have to give up trying to write Greek in Lyx and Latex for the time being, unless someone fixes it. Could you try with the two attached latex files? I

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread Pavel Sanda
On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i encountered, please comment on: 1. Screen painting. after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek letters works in lyx without problems. [snip] Not

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~' to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek? please correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this is wrong direction. how will you determine nonbreak. space vs tilde

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Rune Schjellerup Philosof wrote: On some keyboard layouts ~ is a dead key by default (danish for instance). I wonder why tilde is a dead key on danish keyboards, we don't have any chars in our alphabet that use a tilde accent. The same holds for German. I guess someone once

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i encountered, please comment on: 1. Screen painting. after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek letters works in lyx without

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i encountered, please comment on: 1. Screen painting. after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek letters works in

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 12 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: This is not about conversion but display: * If you paste polytonic Greek text from e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_diacritics, this should show up in greek letters with diacritics at the correct place. * If you input latin letters and

RE: greek fonts

2008-06-12 Thread Ad Meskens
Onderwerp: Re: greek fonts On 6/8/08, Ad Meskens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is however a problem when you want to write ancient Greek with hyphens etc; The betababel package and writing bcode in ERT works wonderfully. However handling Dutch seems to be suppressed. When you compile your LyX file

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-12 Thread G. Milde
On 11.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > But this is inconsistent with handling of other extensions. > > Editing in LyX works even without any tex distribution, still > > reconfigure checks availability of fonts, classes and packages -- > > but not inputenc nor ucs. > which is a different story then

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-12 Thread Pavel Sanda
> But missing input encodings are not marked (are they?) -- this is what I > call inconsistency. yes :) p

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i encountered, > please comment on: > > 1. Screen painting. > after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek letters works > in lyx > without problems. > [snip] Not here.

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-12 Thread G. Milde
On 11.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 11 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: > > On 11.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > > > > Looks like I shall have to give up trying to write Greek in Lyx and > > > Latex for the time being, unless someone fixes it. > > Could you try with the two attached latex

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread Pavel Sanda
> On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > > > i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i > > encountered, > > please comment on: > > > > 1. Screen painting. > > after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek letters works > > in lyx > > without problems. > >

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > > > Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~' > > > > to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek? > > > > > please correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this is wrong direction. > > > how will you determine nonbreak.

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Rune Schjellerup Philosof wrote: > On some keyboard layouts ~ is a dead key by default (danish for instance). > I wonder why tilde is a dead key on danish keyboards, we don't have any > chars in our alphabet that use a tilde accent. The same holds for German. > I guess someone

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread G. Milde
On 12.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > > > i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i > > encountered, please comment on: > > > > 1. Screen painting. > > after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek letters > > works

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > On 12 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > > > > > i would like to summarize the my understanding of the problems i > > > encountered, > > > please comment on: > > > > > > 1. Screen painting. > > > after installing unicode fonts for X displaying ancient greek

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-12 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 12 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: > > This is not about conversion but display: > > * If you paste polytonic Greek text from e.g. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_diacritics, this should show up in > greek letters with diacritics at the correct place. > > * If you input latin letters and

RE: greek fonts

2008-06-12 Thread Ad Meskens
Onderwerp: Re: greek fonts On 6/8/08, Ad Meskens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is however a problem when you want to write ancient Greek with hyphens > etc; The betababel package and writing bcode in ERT works wonderfully. > However handling Dutch seems to be suppressed. > >

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread G. Milde
On 10.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: On 10.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: now the next step :) i see latex error that utf8x.def file is missing. Where you able to select utf8x font encoding from the LyX gui? i dont think this is possible. My mistake. You cannot choose font encoding from

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
Normally LyX checks the package availability for any extensions, so this might count as a (minor) LyX bug, no i dont have this package locally, so its not lyx problem. It is a lyx problem if you can actively set DocumentSettingsLanguageEncoding to utf8x while the package ucs (and

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) keeps appearing before the letter instead of above it. In most fonts, even in the Standard glyph list of the Unicode

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) keeps appearing before the letter instead of above it. In most fonts, even in the Standard glyph list of the Unicode consortium

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 11 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) keeps appearing before the letter instead of above it. In most fonts, even in the

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Rune Schjellerup Philosof
Anthony Campbell skrev: On 11 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) keeps appearing before the letter instead of above it. In most

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 11 Jun 2008, Rune Schjellerup Philosof wrote: Anthony Campbell skrev: On 11 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) keeps appearing before the

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread G. Milde
On 11.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) keeps appearing before the letter instead of above it. Unfortunately, lyx currently only

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread G. Milde
On 11.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: Normally LyX checks the package availability for any extensions, so this might count as a (minor) LyX bug, no i dont have this package locally, so its not lyx problem. It is a lyx problem if you can actively set DocumentSettingsLanguageEncoding

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
With this fix, your lyx example can be set to use the language Greek (polytonic). However, as the tilde acts as a non-breakable space in LaTeX, it is escaped by LyX (converted to \asciitilde) and hence the example will only work right, if you put the tilde (or the whole text) in an ERT box

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
it. When you put tilde-accent into the command buffer and then strike the desired key, sorry i meant accent-tilde pavel

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
is tetex supposed to work with the chosen encoding or do i need texlive? what tex distribution do you use? utf8x.def is part of the ucs package for comprehensive unicode support. I use the texlive packages from Debian/testing which contain ucs in texlive-latex-recommended. I do not

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
But this is inconsistent with handling of other extensions. Editing in LyX works even without any tex distribution, still reconfigure checks availability of fonts, classes and packages -- but not inputenc nor ucs. which is a different story then prohibit this encoding ;) pavel

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 11 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: Unfortunately, lyx currently only supports modern Greek, but has no support for polytonic Greek (babel option polutonikogreek). However, this can be easily fixed by adding polutonikogreek to the languages file and re-configuring: ---

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
On 11 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: It still doesn't work here. That is, the tilde comes out before the letter, not on top of it. But I think this is something to do with the current version of Latex, not Lyx, because the same thing is now happening in native Latex as well. Looks like I

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread G. Milde
On 11.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~' to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek? please correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this is wrong direction. how will you determine nonbreak. space vs tilde accent then?

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread G. Milde
On 11.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: It still doesn't work here. That is, the tilde comes out before the letter, not on top of it. But I think this is something to do with the current version of Latex, not Lyx, because the same thing is now happening in native Latex as well. Strange.

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 11 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 11.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: It still doesn't work here. That is, the tilde comes out before the letter, not on top of it. But I think this is something to do with the current version of Latex, not Lyx, because the same thing is now happening in

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~' to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek? please correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this is wrong direction. how will you determine nonbreak. space vs tilde accent then? The same way as

Re: greek fonts (summary?)

2008-06-11 Thread Rune Schjellerup Philosof
Pavel Sanda skrev: (or even hard code ~ as a dead key). On some keyboard layouts ~ is a dead key by default (danish for instance). My guess is that people, who wish to write greek, use such a keyboard layout (or changes to one). I wonder why tilde is a dead key on danish keyboards, we

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread G. Milde
On 10.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: On 10.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: now the next step :) i see latex error that utf8x.def file is missing. Where you able to select utf8x font encoding from the LyX gui? i dont think this is possible. My mistake. You cannot choose font encoding from

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
Normally LyX checks the package availability for any extensions, so this might count as a (minor) LyX bug, no i dont have this package locally, so its not lyx problem. It is a lyx problem if you can actively set DocumentSettingsLanguageEncoding to utf8x while the package ucs (and

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) keeps appearing before the letter instead of above it. In most fonts, even in the Standard glyph list of the Unicode

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) keeps appearing before the letter instead of above it. In most fonts, even in the Standard glyph list of the Unicode consortium

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 11 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) keeps appearing before the letter instead of above it. In most fonts, even in the

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Rune Schjellerup Philosof
Anthony Campbell skrev: On 11 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) keeps appearing before the letter instead of above it. In most

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 11 Jun 2008, Rune Schjellerup Philosof wrote: Anthony Campbell skrev: On 11 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) keeps appearing before the

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread G. Milde
On 11.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 10 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: On 10.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: I tried to use Lyx for ancient Greek but the circumflex (tilde) keeps appearing before the letter instead of above it. Unfortunately, lyx currently only

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread G. Milde
On 11.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: Normally LyX checks the package availability for any extensions, so this might count as a (minor) LyX bug, no i dont have this package locally, so its not lyx problem. It is a lyx problem if you can actively set DocumentSettingsLanguageEncoding

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
With this fix, your lyx example can be set to use the language Greek (polytonic). However, as the tilde acts as a non-breakable space in LaTeX, it is escaped by LyX (converted to \asciitilde) and hence the example will only work right, if you put the tilde (or the whole text) in an ERT box

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
it. When you put tilde-accent into the command buffer and then strike the desired key, sorry i meant accent-tilde pavel

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
is tetex supposed to work with the chosen encoding or do i need texlive? what tex distribution do you use? utf8x.def is part of the ucs package for comprehensive unicode support. I use the texlive packages from Debian/testing which contain ucs in texlive-latex-recommended. I do not

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
But this is inconsistent with handling of other extensions. Editing in LyX works even without any tex distribution, still reconfigure checks availability of fonts, classes and packages -- but not inputenc nor ucs. which is a different story then prohibit this encoding ;) pavel

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 11 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: Unfortunately, lyx currently only supports modern Greek, but has no support for polytonic Greek (babel option polutonikogreek). However, this can be easily fixed by adding polutonikogreek to the languages file and re-configuring: ---

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
On 11 Jun 2008, G. Milde wrote: It still doesn't work here. That is, the tilde comes out before the letter, not on top of it. But I think this is something to do with the current version of Latex, not Lyx, because the same thing is now happening in native Latex as well. Looks like I

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread G. Milde
On 11.06.08, Pavel Sanda wrote: Question to the developers: Would it be possible to pass the tilde '~' to LaTeX as-is if the language is set to polutonikogreek? please correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this is wrong direction. how will you determine nonbreak. space vs tilde accent then?

Re: greek fonts

2008-06-11 Thread G. Milde
On 11.06.08, Anthony Campbell wrote: It still doesn't work here. That is, the tilde comes out before the letter, not on top of it. But I think this is something to do with the current version of Latex, not Lyx, because the same thing is now happening in native Latex as well. Strange.

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