- Stable URLs, RFC 5064 + X-Message-ID-Hash.
See the above links. If you can implement the
`IArchiver.permalink()` method and ensure that even if
completely wiped and regenerated from the
underlying raw messages, your URLs
will remain stable, I think you will have won. :)
This is really
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 4:04 PM, David Jeske dav...@gmail.com wrote:
- Merging of forums, archives, newsgroups, and IMAP.
You like to bite off the big ones eh? NNTP, then IMAP.
Does anyone even use fat-mail-clients anymore?
Yes, and yes. But I don't think anybody has really thought
On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 17:11 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
Grackle is another archiver for mailman that doesn't
have the UI bells and whistles of hyperkitty but it does make an
effort to expose a REST UI to the world. I think that's a beautiful
thing.
I started a small thing on hyperkitty
I brought up a quick CSLA injest of some mailman-dev posts to show off some
basic features. I'm having a little trouble with the swish-e code, so the
features that depend on text-indexing arn't working at the moment (search,
author search). The current UI uses user-cookies to choose between a
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:37 PM, David Jeske dav...@gmail.com wrote:
Can you share something about dependency philosophy (besides licensing) in
Mailman?
Well, for the official poop you'll have to wait for Barry, but AFAICS archivers
aren't restricted to Storm + RESTish (which is what Mailman
On Mar 27, 2012 5:32 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
If the archiver/web UI is going to be distributed
*with* Mailman, Barry would probably prefer
Storm + Django because that's what
Mailman/Protorius (core and admin web UI, resp.) are
using. But I imagine that's negotiable
On 03/26/2012 11:37 PM, David Jeske wrote:
CSLA doesn't currently have any concept server-auth. The only stateful
features it has are view-preferences and read-state, neither of which are
important enough to require a password. It uses a password-less system
which uses cookies for prefs and a
On Mar 26, 2012, at 03:20 PM, David Jeske wrote:
I'm writing to find out the state of and philosophy surrounding pipermail
in mailman, to see if there is a productive way to provide some
code/development-time to that part of mailman.
That's awesome. Pipermail (in its current state) is ancient,
On Mar 27, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Pipermail is going the way of the dodo, yes, but there will be something
bundled with Mailman, I'm pretty sure.
fsvo bundled :)
(1) the communication from Mailman to the archivers will be via
LMTP/SMTP, including a Mailman-specific header
On Mar 27, 2012, at 09:32 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Well, for the official poop you'll have to wait for Barry, but AFAICS
archivers aren't restricted to Storm + RESTish (which is what Mailman itself
uses) because they're separate applications. If the archiver/web UI is going
to be
On Mar 27, 2012, at 08:53 AM, David Jeske wrote:
Storm-ORM looks like it allows any primary key so that's good. From a quick
glance it looks very similar to the Clearsilver-odb-orm in syntax and
function. My primary beef with django-orm (last time I looked at it) was it
requiring a unique-id
On Mar 26, 2012, at 05:11 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
We'd love to have work done on the archier! I know that we're ditching
pipermail entirely and that archivers are becoming separate from the core
mailman. What I don't know is whether mailman3 will eventually have
a standard archiver which
On Mar 26, 2012, at 06:07 PM, David Jeske wrote:
I highly recommend reconsidering this and including a standard archiver
with mailman. If the number of sites that use pipermail is any indication,
I think failing to include something will basically mean lots of lists
without any archives.
I think
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote:
We'd love to have work done on the archier! I know that we're ditching
pipermail entirely and that archivers are becoming separate from the core
mailman. What I don't know is whether mailman3 will eventually have
a
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 7:20 AM, David Jeske dav...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm writing to find out the state of and philosophy surrounding pipermail
in mailman,
There's been a lot of discussion of this over the years; you should spend
some time in the mailman-developers and mailman-users archives
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 03:20:05PM -0700, David Jeske wrote:
As I was talking about hyperkitty we touched briefly on
what I think is one of the central conundrums about having only unofficial
third party archivers:
So if you have already developed some stuff, I
certainly would love to see you put it on the table
as a candidate for the Mailman 3 default
archive web UI.
Yes. My CSLA code is on the table for MM2 or 3. It's python, and it's BSD.
More than that, if you folks want it, I'm happy to
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