Re: [Mailman-Users] Large Lists manipulations

2001-12-05 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Greg == Greg Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Greg On 04 December 2001, Tass Chapman said: Is there a quicker way to remove members than the UI or the remove_members tool? I can quickly use emacs to load and find the email in the config.db, but I am not sure of the syntax and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Stone Age

2002-01-14 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Nissley == Nissley Ron Nissley_Ron writes: Nissley Forgive me for being a bit sarcastic but doesn't Nissley preventing list members from unsubscribing reek of stone Nissley age practices? No matter how closely related the members Nissley are to the source of the mailing

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman list qrunner locks getting stuck?

2002-01-17 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Jon == Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jon The browser connection manages to create the lock files but Jon then it stops and refuses to authenticate. I'm fairly Jon certain it is using an old cookie at this point. Well, the obvious and pleasant solution is 1) reverse the

Re: [Mailman-Users] error in qrunner

2002-02-01 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
tdavis == tdavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: tdavis What does this mean? Mailman owns the lockfiles. Does it own the directory where they're being created? Or is that what you mean by owns the lockfiles? -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp

Re: [Mailman-Users] question

2002-02-06 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Jon == Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jon It would involve adding a preprocessor to the mailing list. Jon For some folks that is easily accomplished (do-able in about Jon four hours), but for folks who have never done it before, it Jon can be a real time-sink to get up and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscriber options

2002-02-18 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Paul == Paul Croft [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul Currently I see that I can veiw 30 subscribers at a Paul time...is there anyway to view more? I think you have to hack the source, but it's not hard. Probably you don't need to, though. Paul Is there a search feature for

Re: [Mailman-Users] News Gateway not spam

2002-02-22 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Jon == Jon Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jon Take a look at the code. It's very easy to read and edit. Not only that, but remarkably often the obvious change is the correct one. So-o-o-o-o cool! -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp

Re: [Mailman-Users] how to arrange a list with 'affiliate' members

2004-05-11 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Barnaby == Barnaby Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Barnaby I am trying to configure a list or group of lists to Barnaby exhibit the following behaviour, but have been having Barnaby trouble: Barnaby I run a list called 'discuss', which is a discussion list Barnaby for

Re: [Mailman-Users] how to arrange a list with 'affiliate' members

2004-05-14 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Barnaby == Barnaby Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Barnaby However you seriously underestimate the technophobia of Barnaby my members! Perhaps. I still think if they were given a chance to work with a system that was crafted to work for them, instead of against them, they would learn

Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunner lockup / mass moderation

2004-05-04 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Stephan == Stephan Uhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stephan Is there another way to do such mass moderation? I tried Stephan to move away the files in the data/ directory but then Stephan Mailman complains about missing them, so I guess I have Stephan to do it the Mailman way

Re: [Mailman-Users] List security

2004-05-07 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Kai == Kai Schaetzl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kai So, put Approved: password in the first line or as a Kai header. Note, this will be parsed away and NOT distributed to Kai the list, don't worry! Well, worry a little. It's cleartext, so unless you're using a VPN/ encrypted

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman + Sendmail issues

2004-05-20 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark == Mark Sass [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mark mailman: |/var/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman and the error message indicates that sendmail picked up the config properly, too. So the only thing I can think of is that /var/mailman/mail/mailman doesn't exist (seems like a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman question

2004-07-21 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
C == C L Etheridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: C In other words, an e-mail send to a list via Smartlist in the C TO field has the name of the list NOT the e-mail address of C the recipient. Please note that not only do all mailing list servers do this, but many users _depend_ on it to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Wish List

2004-07-24 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brad == Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brad Hmm. If I am answering too many questions, That deserves taking seriously, I think. Brad then maybe it is time for me to leave. But please don't leave! The great majority of your posts are precise FAQ citations. This is

Re: [Mailman-Users] RE: don't delivery messages

2004-08-07 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
David == David Elias Sanchez Vasquez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David I did ask to my provider and they answered me this: David Try it again and let me know- there is a setting that says David how many one user can send per hour that was set to low for David this list but I

Re: [Mailman-Users] BIG discard problem

2004-08-12 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Robert == Robert Echlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robert Stuff I looked at: Robert - 2004 mailman list messages. Robert - google for discard mailman script Robert - mailman faq (search for discard) Robert - docs on www.list.org Robert - bin/discard.py seems to require

Re: [Mailman-Users] BIG discard problem

2004-08-12 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Robert == Robert Echlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robert That looks like an interesting solution. I'll make a note Robert of it for next time. Well, last I heard your server was still trying to create the page and choking. This will solve that, because there is an index of pending

How to respond to FAQs [was: [Mailman-Users] Banner and Complex code ...]

2004-08-16 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brad == Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brad I've been thinking about this a bit more. I can Brad change the stock answer I give to the following: This is a FAQ (Frequently Asked Question). Please search the FAQ Wizard and the archives of

[Mailman-Users] Re: How to respond to FAQs

2004-08-16 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Robert == Robert Echlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robert Stephen, I think what you call Newbie rudeness is NOT Robert ignorance of the mores. It is simply not yet knowing the Robert resources. If you like. But that implies ignorance of the mores, as I understand them. The FAQ and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Successful Panther (MacOS X 10.3) installation

2004-09-07 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
macangels == [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: macangels I really get sick of Apple when they make a hullabaloo macangels about woo-woo Open Source software and then ditch macangels their clients with no support for it afterwards. But this is exactly what open source is about: we support

Re: [Mailman-Users] create list on subscribe

2004-09-14 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
martin == martin f krafft martin writes: martin I want to create a listserv to allow folks to subscribe to martin single bugs in the Debian BTS. Instead of creating the martin 27 lists up front, I want them to be created as people martin subscribe (if the list name matches a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with Micrososft Exchange 2003 SBS

2004-10-10 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Jan == Jan Kellermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jan If this customer send a mail to two lists in to:-field, [...] Jan The problem is, that the M$-server deletes one mail because Jan they have the same rcpt and message-id. If they have the same Message-ID, they're the same mail. RFC

Re: [Mailman-Users] TypeError: decoding Unicode is not supported

2004-10-11 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Henry == Henry Olders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Henry the message I'm trying to post comes from Mail 1.3.9, Mac Henry OS 10.3.5, with mail preferences set to use plain text for Henry message composition. I don't understand where the unicode Henry is supposed to be coming from.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Email command upgrade

2004-10-04 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
demo == demo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: demo I am not a coder and so cannot help I am afraid but may be demo an upgrade would be to autogenerate an email with a series demo of clickable links that generate emails that work with the demo given addresses. demo ... with

Re: [Mailman-Users] Posting acknowledgements global option?

2004-10-04 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Maybe this option could be more precisely described as acknowledge receipt by Mailman of each post to the member who posted it. I'm afraid the cascade of prepositions is more confusing than the simpler phrasing, though. I think the best solution is to just fix the German translation. Kai ==

Re: [Mailman-Users] Email command upgrade

2004-10-05 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brad == Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brad Well, by default, it doesn't ignore or hide the List-* Brad headers, and turns them into proper clickable links. [...] Brad This is all that needs to be done to properly Brad implement the RFC. If you think that's

Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender details and anonymous list

2004-10-31 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Miles == Miles Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Miles The anonymous list correctly removes the details of who in Miles the team sent the message, and replaces it with the lists Miles email address. I have been asked to set this so that it is Miles a specific name, rather than

Re: [Mailman-Users] Pig at the wedding question/diatribe

2004-10-31 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Stewart == Stewart Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stewart scraping sound of soapbox being pulled up Stewart I really, /really/ appreciate applications that build Stewart into a single binary or a very few files, that can be Stewart built on a (different) build and test host,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Has anyone successfully installed Mailman onFedora Core 2?

2004-11-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brad == Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brad If you can show us a cross-platform way to check for Brad all the appropriate and necessary Python headers that would Brad be required by Mailman, and would work regardless of where Brad Python was installed, where Mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] Anywhere for novices?

2004-11-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
PeteBell == PeteBell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PeteBell Is there ANYWHERE a novice can get hand-holding PeteBell step-by-step tutorials on all this stuff? Yes ... PeteBell Python, scripts, configs, mailman, MTAs, what the hell PeteBell does it all mean? ... but they are not

Re: [Mailman-Users] Stopping Spam

2004-11-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Gary == Gary Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gary In one of the previous posts (Allow members to send e-mail Gary to another list) it was mentioned that intelligent spammers Gary could monitor the output of a list and then spoof one of the Gary subscribed addresses. Gary I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Has anyone successfully installed Mailman onFedora Core 2?

2004-12-01 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brad == Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 1:03 PM +0900 2004-11-30, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: AC_CHECK_HEADER(Python.h, , got_python_h=yes)]) if test $got_python_h != yes -a $os = linux; then echo 'If you're on Linux, you have the binary distro no -devel rpm bug

Re: [Mailman-Users] Has anyone successfully installed Mailman onFedora Core 2?

2004-12-01 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brad == Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wishful thinking. By allocating the headers to the devel packages, they've already indicated that in their opinion it's somebody else's problem. Brad If that's the way they want to do business, they can Brad get the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Language options

2004-12-02 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
marioca == marioca marioca789 writes: marioca if someone from France sets their messages to display in marioca French, would a post from a subscriber in Brazil in marioca Portuguese be automatically translated into French? Translated, no. The Mailman preferred language settings

Re: [Mailman-Users] sending mail to members in batches

2004-12-02 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Darryl == Darryl Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Darryl I'm wondering if there is a setting in mailman to send Darryl mail out to members of a list in batches - for example Darryl send 100, wait 30 seconds, send to the next 100, wait 30 Darryl seconds, and so on. Darryl

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unknown user- what am I missing?

2004-12-02 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Zain == Zain Memon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Zain I know for sure that the speakeasy email address is Zain correct. I can get regular email on it. Uh, what is your server's relation to speakeasy.net? I don't know Postfix, but that virtual relay strongly suggests to me that they're the

Re: [Mailman-Users] sending mail to members in batches

2004-12-02 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
G == G James Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: G I would think that throttling is an MTA issue (in this case G Exim). Given that the MTA will control the rate of ALL messages G from the system, not just those that are generated by Mailman. I agree with your analysis, but that may or

Re: [Mailman-Users] Home-grown filters

2005-02-24 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
David == David Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David I know a Mailman user who is concerned about David slow-connection subscribers, and for that reason wishes to David strip attachments and truncate or refuse overlong messages. David Does Mailman support inclusion of home-grown

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Home-grown filters

2005-03-01 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark == Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mark Brad Knowles wrote: At 3:15 PM -0500 2005-02-26, Les Schaffer wrote: is there a way to alter pipelines for a specific subset of lists on a Mailman list server? No, not that I know of. Mark All you have to do is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unknown encoding error

2005-03-08 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark == Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mark Someone has posted a message to the list with the Subject: Mark encoded in the gb2312 (Chinese) character set. It appears Mark your Python doesn't support this character set, but it also Mark looks like the code in CookHeaders.py

Re: [Mailman-Users] [continued] No address associated with nodename

2005-03-11 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
roach == roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: roach Did this issue ever get solved? I'm getting and identical roach error, but just using the standard OS X Server setup. It roach was working fine for a bit, but now has stopped. I don't know about Server, but on ordinary Mac OS X I see

Re: [Mailman-Users] member_posting_only

2005-04-20 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
kalin == kalin mintchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: kalin my point was/is that the 'members_posting_only' is supposed kalin to be for members ONLY but it's not... As I understand the word post it implies delivery to the list members. So this option is doing what it says: preventing

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and spam

2005-04-20 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brad == Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now I want that these mails addressed to mailing lists are deleted by mailman and not held for approval. Brad It's better to do this before the message gets to Brad Mailman. How you do that will depend on your MTA, your

Re: [Mailman-Users] member_posting_only

2005-04-20 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brad == Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brad At 9:06 PM -0400 2005-04-19, kalin mintchev wrote: what is not clear in the statement members_postings_only='yes'? 'yes' or 'only'? i guess i'm hanging on only. wouldn't you? Brad The problem is that Mailman checks for

Re: [Mailman-Users] member_posting_only

2005-04-25 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brad == Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brad Programmers tend to think that everyone else in the Brad world is a programmer, and then are amazed when others are Brad not capable of doing the things that they find so easy. I only said it's a shame that this technique is

Re: [Mailman-Users] appended email addresses on probe?

2005-04-25 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Thomas == Thomas Hochstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thomas Brad Knowles wrote: No, bounces for a mailing list should not contain more than one failed address, especially if it's a probe message -- those are always sent out to just one specific user. Thomas As far as I

Re: [Mailman-Users] appended email addresses on probe?

2005-04-26 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Chuq == Chuq Von Rospach [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chuq turn on personalization, and this problem goes away. No contest; that's the best way to handle this. Personalization did occur to me (vaguely), but I just assumed he wants to stick with his current configuration. But on reflection, I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman getting stuck while trying to send a message

2005-04-27 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Remi == Remi Delon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Remi Thanks for the insight Michael... If a junk address is Remi indeed all it takes to cause Mailman to hang then it's quite Remi disapointing ... It's not. I've never seen Mailman hang like that in more than 4 years, with versions

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman getting stuck while trying to send a message

2005-04-28 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Forwarding to mailman-users, I can't do anything about this Remi == Remi Delon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Remi Actually, you have [heard about it] ... Remi http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-October/040344.html Remi Looks like I'm not the only one with that

Re: [Mailman-Users] help

2005-04-28 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Larry == Larry Rosenman ler@lerctr.org writes: Larry What do the logs say? Don't you ever get tired of saying that? 0.5wink We need to give admins web access to the logs, otherwise it's not going to occur to them that they are available. -- School of Systems and Information

Re: [Mailman-Users] How do I default to HTML, not plain text emails?

2005-04-28 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Daevid == Daevid Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daevid Aahh.. Okay. I guess I misunderstood what that checkbox Daevid was for. Seems silly that one would have a choice for the Daevid digests and not for regular emails. You don't get a choice of HTML or not for digests. You get a

Re: [Mailman-Users] help

2005-04-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Larry == Larry Rosenman ler@lerctr.org writes: Larry I keep forgetting that some of these folks don't know they Larry exist. Ah, that's no sin (heck, Brad was on _my_ case for assuming too much expertise last week). I just meant that anything that you do more than once is a candidate

Re: [Mailman-Users] help

2005-04-30 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brad == Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for your comments! Brad Since Mailman will work with a variety of MTAs and not Brad all of them will use the same interface to allow you to look Brad at this information (or provide any interface at all to Brad allow

Re: [Mailman-Users] enable Mailman commands in subject

2005-05-13 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Meike == Meike Reichle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Meike I would like my mailman sever to respond to commands given Meike in the subject line, such as help or subscribe. The modern practice is to have a separate address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], for administrative commands. Mailman will not be

Re: [Mailman-Users] Outbound smtp email problems (qmail problems)

2005-05-16 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Matt == Matt England [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matt That's not my understanding. I've got /usr/lib/sendmail Matt linked to a qmail gizmo, and it's been working for months Matt now. It says so in the qmail docs. Matt Is there something I'm missing? Dan Bernstein is a very

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman simply *stops* sending messages

2005-05-21 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brad == Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brad At 4:08 PM -0700 2005-05-20, John W. Baxter wrote: If the sending MUA didn't encode it, it's an MUA error (this is NOT a new RFC)--dated in 1997. Brad Correct, but Mailman should be able to deal with this Brad

Re: [Mailman-Users] [install] set-gid bit

2005-05-26 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Peter == Peter Schnitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: echo #!/bin/sh/home/sites/mytest Peter when i try to do this i get the following error Use single quotes: echo '#!/bin/sh' /home/sites/www.afser.de/users/portal/mytest -- School of Systems and Information Engineering

Re: [Mailman-Users] Regexp help - Matching Subjects to Hold Posts in Mailman 2.0.11

2005-05-30 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
David == David Powell (YANQ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Life will be much easier for this kind of task if you upgrade to Mailman 2.1.x; 2.1.6 is current. David Here are the different regexp's that I've tried, none seem David to work. Really, you should invest in Jeffrey Friedl's book,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto discard non-members messages

2005-06-10 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark == Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mark What do you consider a subscribe request? If you mean a Mark message sent to the list posting address Mark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) with a subject or message body saying Mark please subscribe me or something like that, then you can't

Re: [Mailman-Users] Red Hat FHS packaging

2005-06-15 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Andy == Andy Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andy A plea to Redhat - if you are going to purloin mailman and Andy do it with FHS then a file that accompanies the mailman Andy distribution that explains how to do a manual build that Andy conforms to the way RH does it would be

Re: [Mailman-Users] Administrative requests oddity

2005-07-11 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mike == Mike Avery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike The key seems to be the line, admin(82489): UnicodeError: Mike ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in range(128) Since spammers (and Russians and Japanese for that matter) regularly put non-ASCII into headers, I have to wonder if this is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply to all with original destination and list destination

2005-08-10 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Tiago == Tiago Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tiago But, I would like only to use, by default in my mail Tiago client: reply to - reply to my list reply to all - Tiago reply to my list _and_ original destination Tiago Its possible? I don't need control the Reply-to header...

Re: [Mailman-Users] Search and import

2005-08-11 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Kai == Kai Hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kai Ideally there should be a mail or Web interface for this Kai feature. And ideally it would be provided by its users or their hosting companies.wink Don't you think it's rather strange that you're unwilling to ask for service from people

Re: [Mailman-Users] maximum size of mailman .mbox files

2005-08-19 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brad == Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brad At 2:59 PM -0500 2005-08-17, Stephen S Kelley wrote: I'm running mailman 2.1.5 on fedora2 and the box has ample resources. Are there any OS problems a 2GB? Brad Dunno. But you'd be more likely to get an answer to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages are lost...I have followed FAQs 3.14

2005-08-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mike == Mike Avery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike Looking at the archives to the mailing list, I've seen that Mike different people have had this problem since 2003 in one Mike form or another. Actually, not. (See below.) Mike Still, it seems Mailman should be able to handle

Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails coming through as maillist-bounces - is this normal?

2005-08-31 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
memmott == memmott @ HitCatcher.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: memmott A client of ours has a mailman list set up called memmott [EMAIL PROTECTED] For some reason, when anybody posts to memmott this list, the return address of the list comes across as memmott [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Mailman-Users] max_num_recipients variable question

2005-08-31 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
John == John W Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John But yes, 10 recipients known to Mailman is the limit as set John up by the default value. Personally, I prefer a setting of John 1 (I hate broadcasting addresses into a mailing list). Does that actually work? Although 10 is too

Re: [Mailman-Users] Email rejected with un-quoted From with a dot

2005-09-19 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Bill == Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill On an old Debian Woody machine running mailmain 2.0.11 Bill Mailman rejects mail with an un-quoted name part that Bill includes a dot. Yup. According to RFC 2822's grammar, that's not an un-quoted name part that includes a dot,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Email rejected with un-quoted From with a dot

2005-09-24 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Bill == Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill You know what's very odd? When they send mail directly to Bill me their name includes the quotes. Foo B. User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill When they send mail to the list then it's held and looking Bill at the headers in the

Re: [Mailman-Users] attachements question

2005-09-27 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brad == Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Im assuming they self delete after a while because clicking on one of the link now indicates its not there. Brad That implies that something else is going on. There Brad is no standard cron job that I know of to clean out

Re: [Mailman-Users] attachements question

2005-09-28 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brad == Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brad At 2:03 PM +0900 2005-09-28, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Why archivers don't use Message-Id for the URL, I don't know. Brad Because some MUAs generate message-ids that are likely Brad to collide. Can we stop pandering

Re: [Mailman-Users] attachements question

2005-09-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
John == John W Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John In addition, the Message-Id values would have to be John filtered, if used as is, for URL-unfriendly characters I don't think so. AFAIK, that was fixed about 2000 RFCs ago. When used as URLs, conforming agents will URL-encode them.

Re: [Mailman-Users] unknown encoding crashes qrunner

2005-10-06 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Ivan == Ivan Fetch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ivan I'm confused as to why the unknown encoding is unknown - Ivan can someone shed light on this? Probably because some less-than-conformant agent put that literal string in a Content-Type header. Try grepping the spool for charset=unknown

Re: [Mailman-Users] unknown encoding crashes qrunner

2005-10-07 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Ivan == Ivan Fetch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ivan In your experience, has this stopped Mailman from Ivan processing incoming messages? After soem further Ivan investigation, I've seen these same errors take place, yet Ivan Mailman continues processing messages. This makes

Re: [Mailman-Users] Documentations on Mailman package

2005-10-07 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brad == Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brad At 10:46 PM -0700 2005-10-05, Xiaoyan Ma wrote: Are there documentations on how the Mailman package is organized? I am learning Python and would like to understand how the Mailman package, modules are organized. I found

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2005-11-01 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark == Mark A Lombardo Mark.A.Lombardo writes: Mark I must be coming across as really thick and stupid. Not at all, although it's maddening all around to run into this kind of communication block. Mark S is usually very successful at explaining but let me try from a somewhat different

Re: [Mailman-Users] ISO-8859-1/Latin1 vs UTF-8

2005-11-01 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Bernd == Bernd Petrovitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Content-Type: header specifying charset=utf-8. For reasons I don't understand, the HTML standard says the server provided Content-Type: charset takes priority over that specified by an HTML META tag. Bernd I don't

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce message confusion

2005-11-17 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Robin == Robin Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robin There's nothing wrong with the subscribers email Robin address. How do I tell mailman that our addresses is ok You don't. The MTA (mail transfer agent, the program that actually sends the mail over the Internet) at your ISP is telling

[Mailman-Users] Restricted accounts [was: Bounce message confusion]

2005-11-19 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark == Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mark I have heard other reports of ISP's offering Mailman service Mark and effectively restricting Mailman to 500 (or some number) Mark of recipients per hour. I think this is ridiculous, Mark deceptive and borders on fraudulent. I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce message confusion

2005-11-19 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Robin == Robin Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robin We're trying, but my ISP doesn't seem to understand what's Robin wrong. Are _they_ sympathetic, and genuinely trying to help? Robin Is there a way I can add an email address of my own that Robin will definitely be at the end

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce message confusion

2005-11-19 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark == Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mark Robin Rowe wrote: Dumb question, but I want to make sure I understand: if I turn off bounce processing what happens when there's a bounce? Mark The bounce email is discarded and no action is taken. Does mailman retry in this

Re: [Mailman-Users] Howto do lists with same name on virtual domain

2005-11-21 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Lars == Lars Lystrup Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars I want to setup mailman to run lists for several domains, Lars some of them running the same list names. This is a known restriction in MM 2.1. You need to run separate instances of mailman for that. See

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Zope

2005-12-13 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
John == John Poltorak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John How do I configure a Mailman list for a website which is John Zope based? John I guess some entries in Apaches configuration file need to John distinguish between Zope based pages and Apache pages for a John given virtual

Re: [Mailman-Users] Doubt with python and mailman

2005-12-17 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Xabier == Xabier GuitiƔn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Xabier What happens if... you kill python after 'theorically' Xabier shutting down the mailman correctly? The python process stops, dead.wink Xabier Is this a problem to the possible mails that were being Xabier processed?

Re: [Mailman-Users] There are no pending requests

2005-12-17 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Ben == Ben Ostrowsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben As you may remember from our last thrilling episode, I've Ben upgraded from 2.1.4 to 2.1.5. Our users are trying to send Ben messages that are being held for review, which is fine. But Ben when we try to release the messages,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-23 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Ben == Ben Discoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben Wow. I had no idea at all that it was possible to run Apache Ben _inside_ Cygwin. The Apache website directs Windows people Ben to just install and run, so the alternate route is not well Ben known. You might want to just take a

Re: [Mailman-Users] sorting out bounces

2006-01-02 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Eric == Eric S Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: List admins don't receive the bounces. The system does. There are many examples of groups of multiple list admins all managing the same mailing lists, and having absolutely no problems whatsoever with this method. Eric

Re: [Mailman-Users] Shunting msgs.

2006-01-02 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Thomas == Thomas von Hassel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thomas Hi i have a mailman 2.1.6 installation on freebsd 4.9 Thomas Many of the msgs. to my lists are beging shunted with this Thomas error: Thomas Uncaught runner exception: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte Thomas 0xe6

Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting my mailing list

2006-01-04 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
William == William F Hill, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: William I have asked this question in the past and still cannot William find a simple, layman's way of getting my membership list William downloaded. One way: Go to the list information page using your web browser. It usually has

Re: [Mailman-Users] notification system

2006-01-22 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Matt == Matt Gostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matt I have installed Mailman in hopes of using it as a type of Matt 'notification' system. For example, a user subscribes to Matt the list, and after subscribing I can send him/her an email Matt notifiying them an event that

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

2006-01-27 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Jim == Jim Popovitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim I guess we just see system administration from different Jim angles, I prefer communication to silence. Of course. So does everybody. Specifically, so do the crackers. Jim Barry/Tokio/Mark: Folks, yesterday we were informed of a

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

2006-01-27 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Jim == Jim Popovitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: 5. Security patches are asynchronous, like earthquakes, they happen when they happen. Jim Very bad analogy. Hurricanes would be better. There is Jim plenty of potential for user-base warning

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

2006-01-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Jim == Jim Popovitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Oh, if you prefer windstorms, hurricane is a bad analogy. Far more accurate is tornado.0.1 wink Jim Hurricane is the most accurate analogy, because with Jim hurricanes nobody knows about them

Re: [Mailman-Users] Verifying posts

2006-01-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Jim == Jim Popovitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim Hi all, I've been looking into TMDA (http://tmda.net) and got Jim to wondering if something like this (or a subset of it) Jim should be incorporated into Mailman. There was a thread about this in the fairly recent past, perhaps it

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

2006-01-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Jim == Jim Popovitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim She was asking a very important question about something that Jim was already public. What important question? It's an easy to execute exploit (in fact, it occasionally happens due to ordinary mail, that's why it was found and fixed

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

2006-01-30 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Jim == Jim Popovitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim BTW, just who are the members of mailman-security? It's a self-selecting group, though not a terribly secret one; I believe the membership of that list has been described, if not explicitly listed, in the past. But I know Barry well enough

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are footers sent as attachments?

2006-01-30 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brad == Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brad You can't write your own HTML there, so no click Brad here type language is going to work. Strictly speaking, this depends on the MUA, too. In the message I'm replying to Gnus added no less than 16 clickable items, including

Re: [Mailman-Users] non human interface for manging users

2006-02-05 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark == Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm developping a web site for an association, and I wonder to know if they are any remote MailMan command which would enables me to manage user subscribion automatically. The Association's Web site has a securized interface for

Re: [Mailman-Users] why is plain text option (removes MIME/HTML) only available for digest?

2006-02-08 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Tom == Tom Grundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Hello - we would like to be able to specify plain vs MIME (on Tom a user-by-user basis) for regular non-digest delivery. Tom 'option plain' only lets you set the user-by-user option when Tom digests are on. The plain text option

Re: [Mailman-Users] GMane?

2006-02-15 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
jam == John A Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jam I have read many mailing lists as newsgroups on Gmane for jam several years and have been unaware of missing anything jam substantial from a subscribed list. You may not be missing anything, but I missed at least one of your posts,

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