Re: [Mailman-Users] List My Other Subscriptions Not working
Hi Mark, --- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Troiano wrote: When I try to do this, I receive the following error message: Note: The list administrator may not view the other subscriptions for this user. It seems like this should work, and I should not be receiving this error message. Why should the admin of one list be allowed to view/change information for a user's other subscriptions to lists of which she/he may not be the admin? The scenario we have is that I am the list owner for all the lists. And we have a controlled subscription/unsubscription process whereas members will need to fill out an online request form to subscribe/unsubscribe, that I process manually. so the common scenario is when someone requests to be unsubscribed from all of the lists they are on, or they leave the company and we need to remove them, we need a way to quickly identify all the lists they are on. Does anyone know of a way to resolve this issue so that I may see what other lists a specific member is on? If you are the site admin, log on with the site password and you will be able to do this. If you are not the site admin, but you have access to the command line scripts, use bin/find_member. I'm not the site admin and don't have access to the command line scripts, unfortunately. But how do I log on as the site admin to a list in order to view this? I could get the site adming ID and password if needed. Thanks, Dave __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] List My Other Subscriptions Not working
Dave Troiano wrote: The scenario we have is that I am the list owner for all the lists. And we have a controlled subscription/unsubscription process whereas members will need to fill out an online request form to subscribe/unsubscribe, that I process manually. So you are in fact the site *Mailman* administrator. Sorry, I wasn't clear that that's what I meant when I said site admin. So the next stumbling block is whether this is your organization's Mailman installation vs. a virtual domain on a hosted installation. If the former, you should know the Mailman site password. Get whowever does have access to the command line scripts for Mailman to do bin/mmsitepas to set a site password for Mailman if there isn't already one and tell you what it is. Then, if you use this site password to access a list's admin interface rather than the list admin password, you will be able to see a users other subscriptions. Or, perhaps your IT staff can set up a way for you to run bin/find_member. If your Mailman is just one domain on a hosted Mailman installation, you will need to negotiate this with the host. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] List My Other Subscriptions Not working
David Andrews wrote: At 09:50 PM 9/19/2006, you wrote: Dave Troiano wrote: When I try to do this, I receive the following error message: Note: The list administrator may not view the other subscriptions for this user. Why should the admin of one list be allowed to view/change information for a user's other subscriptions to lists of which she/he may not be the admin? Does anyone know of a way to resolve this issue so that I may see what other lists a specific member is on? If you are the site admin, log on with the site password and you will be able to do this. If you are not the site admin, but you have access to the command line scripts, use bin/find_member. I have one idea as to the cause, as I am having the same problem. Up through versions 2.1.6 I was able to see the other subscriptions of a user, but get the same error message as does Dave. This is because current behavior was first implemented in 2.1.7. I have done something, which is probably bad practice, etc. but it is done. I have used the same password for the system admin and site admins, as I too own all the lists -- I have about 100. So, up through 2.1.6 it must have taken me as system admin, 2.1.8 now possibly sees me as site admin. Actually, it always takes you as the list admin, not the site admin. The site admin is allowed to see the user's other subscriptions, the list admin is not since 2.1.7. Is there any way around this?? I can access the command line scripts, but for reasons I won't get into here, it is not my favorite method. Change the site admin password to be different from the list admin password and use the stie admin password when you need that function. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] List My Other Subscriptions Not working
At 5:58 AM -0700 9/20/06, Dave Troiano wrote: so the common scenario is when someone requests to be unsubscribed from all of the lists they are on, or they leave the company and we need to remove them, we need a way to quickly identify all the lists they are on. Currently, only the site admin would have access to this level of information, and then only by logging into the machine where the lists are hosted and running command-line programs. I'm not the site admin and don't have access to the command line scripts, unfortunately. Unfortunately, that is currently a requirement. But how do I log on as the site admin to a list in order to view this? From the web, you don't. It's only available via the command-line. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 Founding Individual Sponsor of LOPSA. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] List My Other Subscriptions Not working
--- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Troiano wrote: The scenario we have is that I am the list owner for all the lists. And we have a controlled subscription/unsubscription process whereas members will need to fill out an online request form to subscribe/unsubscribe, that I process manually. So you are in fact the site *Mailman* administrator. Sorry, I wasn't clear that that's what I meant when I said site admin. So the next stumbling block is whether this is your organization's Mailman installation vs. a virtual domain on a hosted installation. This is our organization's Mailman install on a local server. If the former, you should know the Mailman site password. Get whowever does have access to the command line scripts for Mailman to do bin/mmsitepas to set a site password for Mailman if there isn't already one and tell you what it is. Then, if you use this site password to access a list's admin interface rather than the list admin password, you will be able to see a users other subscriptions. If the site's password is the same one you need to use when creating a new list, then I know that password. Would this be the password that you enter in the last field on the create a new password page called List creator's (authentication) password.? Or, perhaps your IT staff can set up a way for you to run bin/find_member. This might be an option, but I don't know if they want to release that kind of access to me. I'm hoping to get to this info via the method mentioned above. The only interface I have to work with now is the web interface. Thanks guys, Dave Dave Troiano #99 JP E30 M3 http://www.vacmotorsports.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] List My Other Subscriptions Not working
At 10:47 AM -0700 9/20/06, Dave Troiano wrote: If the site's password is the same one you need to use when creating a new list, then I know that password. You can use the site admin password to create lists, but IIRC there can also be a separate list creator password, at least in more recent versions of Mailman. I have never personally seen a list creator password, I've always just used the main site admin password. The only interface I have to work with now is the web interface. The kind of information you're asking for is not available via the web. You have to log on and use the command-line tools, or get someone to do that for you. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 Founding Individual Sponsor of LOPSA. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] List My Other Subscriptions Not working
Dave Troiano wrote: When I try to do this, I receive the following error message: Note: The list administrator may not view the other subscriptions for this user. It seems like this should work, and I should not be receiving this error message. Why should the admin of one list be allowed to view/change information for a user's other subscriptions to lists of which she/he may not be the admin? Does anyone know of a way to resolve this issue so that I may see what other lists a specific member is on? If you are the site admin, log on with the site password and you will be able to do this. If you are not the site admin, but you have access to the command line scripts, use bin/find_member. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
