Hi, folks
You wouldn't beleive but I receive a great deal of mod_perl job offers.
Here is a partial quote of the most generic content of the offer:
At any rate, we're finding it very hard to find mod_perl people and I
thought maybe you could refer me to someone you know. I can tell you
according to the mailing list archives, the Guide was first announced on
03/12/1998 so it makes a year now ! Many kudos to Stas and to all that have
participated (the list is *long*), as well as many thanks.
That's right, a one year anniversary!
I want to take a chance and say "thank you"
We don't seem to have the same problem here in Blighty. I did a search for
mod_perl at www.jobserve.com and six jobs posted in the last five days were
returned.
I'm sure things will improve after this Y2K thang passes over and companies
start to look to new technologies.
From: Stas Bekman
Hello Everybody,
I believe it is true. We could have more more mod_perl programmers.
I think that the biggest problem/opportunity that mod_perl has in terms
of proliferation amongst programmers/users is that Hosts currently
do not provide mod_perl on cheap virtual server package.
I think a
according to the mailing list archives, the Guide was first announced on
03/12/1998 so it makes a year now ! Many kudos to Stas and to all that have
participated (the list is *long*), as well as many thanks.
LOTS OF THANKS to Stas and to all contributors!!! I still carry the full
printed
You wouldn't beleive but I receive a great deal of mod_perl job offers.
Here is a partial quote of the most generic content of the offer:
mod_perl is definitely going up, and not too slow either.
Which makes me thinking that we are too few and the demand is growing
(which is good for us :), but
Now the question is: if this is truth and you feel the same way, how do we
make the world know that there is a great demand for mod_perl programmers
and that people should learn mod_perl and not the stright-forward choice
like VB, ASP or other technology that drives the web?
Great sites using
At 12:35 03/12/1999 +0100, Victor Zamouline wrote:
Great sites using mod_perl may want to explicitely state being proud of it,
with a kind of mod_perl logo. I will willingly decorate my mod_perl'ed site
(www.jazzvalley.com) with a mod_perl stamp on every page.
That's a good idea. We're to
hi,
If I put this on Location: bar on the Netscape browser, I get the result
of the search as expected (try it).
http://www.volunteermatch.com/results/results.jtmpl?zip=5radius=60when=30ongoing=bcategory=Everythingsubmit=Search
But If I try to do this via LWP package, I didn't get the
Hi, again
Robin and Matt are steadily working on a new face for the site. Meanwhile
Baiju Thakkar, the guy behind perlmonth.com and linuxmonth.com, has
registered the no-one-understand-how-not-yet-registered modperl.org
domain. And he came up with an idea that, it's more natural for mod_perl
to
hi,
If I put this on Location: bar on the Netscape browser, I get the result
of the search as expected (try it).
http://www.volunteermatch.com/results/results.jtmpl?zip=5radius=60when=30ongoing=bcategory=Everythingsubmit=Search
I don't, I get the search form. Using IE5 on Win98.
-Message d'origine-
De : Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There are a few logos on the site, and we can add some more (I don't know
if we would manage to agree on one, though it'd give a stronger sense of
"brand").
Right. This talk is about a commercial success. The
Hi there,
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Stas Bekman wrote:
You wouldn't beleive but I receive a great deal of mod_perl job offers.
I believe it.
Which makes me thinking that we are too few and the demand is growing
(which is good for us :), but from the other side it's bad for mod_perl,
Speaking as
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Stas Bekman wrote:
I wish people use more one liner answers
OK.
73
Ged
I'm not sure about why it behaves this way, but the mod_perl guide forewarns
that "Evil things might happen when using PerlFreshRestart"
check out
http://perl.apache.org/guide/troubleshooting.html#Evil_things_might_happen_w
hen_us
which lists the relevant code...
maybe it has to do with the
"Robin" == Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Robin Another thing that could help would be an article on
Robin perl.com. That would reach the Perl community. I'm sure that we
Robin can mail whoever's in charge of it and offer to write an
Robin article, and I see no reason why it'd be turned
"Stas" == Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Stas Hi, folks
Stas You wouldn't beleive but I receive a great deal of mod_perl job offers.
Stas Here is a partial quote of the most generic content of the offer:
Stas At any rate, we're finding it very hard to find mod_perl people and I
Stas
"Victor" == Victor Zamouline [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Victor Great sites using mod_perl may want to explicitely state being
Victor proud of it, with a kind of mod_perl logo. I will willingly
Victor decorate my mod_perl'ed site (www.jazzvalley.com) with a
Victor mod_perl stamp on every page.
When I went to:
http://www.volunteermatch.com/results/results.jtmpl?zip=5radius=60when=30ongoing=bcategory=Everythingsubmit=Search
using Netscape, it showed me the search form the first time round.
After I actually ran the search, then even going to:
Maybe what we need is some open enrollment courses
I can organize that in France, I am in direct communication with all French
computer training companies.
Vic.
"Stas" == Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Stas Hi, folks
Stas You wouldn't beleive but I receive a great deal of mod_perl job offers.
Stas Here is a partial quote of the most generic content of the offer:
Stas At any rate, we're finding it very hard to find mod_perl people and I
Hi there,
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Robin Berjon wrote:
the Guide was first announced on 03/12/1998 so it makes a year now !
Wonder how big it'll be in a year...
Stas says we can stop calling it the `mini' guide now...
Kind regards,
Ged.
Talk to SourceForge which is sponsored by VA Linux Systems.
http://www.sourceforge.com/
I don't think they currently support mod_perl, but I bet they can be
convinced if you ask nice.
Funny, the sourcegarden is a very similar service to sourceforge, but we
want it our way and more
Cliff Rayman wrote:
Are all modules, apache and perl built with the same compiler?
Yes, GCC -- no changes there.
--
Bruce A. JohnsonPictureVision, Inc.
Sr. Software Engineer 250-A Exchange Pl.
(703)925-4075 Herndon, VA 20170
I am new to Mod_Perl. I don't know what all it's good for. My
question is, what do they mean by "mod_perl experience". I can
compile Apache with mod_perl and make emb_perl work correctly
but I highly doubt that is all they are after. Being new to this, I'd like
some perspective from those
I can describe what I mean when I say "mod_perl experience". I think that
to most it means this as well.
mod_perl experience is just a nifty word to aid in the finding of someone
who has the style of perl which fits the requirements of mod_perl. The
ability to keep everything within scope;
Hi,
Gerald Richter wrote:
I guess your mod_perl is compiled as dynamic module (with
USE_DSO) and _not_ linked staticly into Apache?
Actually, we are using modperl statically compiled with apache.
I do not know whether the following will help in identifying
the problem:
We are running
Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
For some people, I presume dealing only with content handlers could be
considered as "mod_perl experience". But mod_perl is so much more
than the content phase. I would laugh at someone that said they "knew
mod_perl", but couldn't tell me most of what's in Stas'
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone had a good way to measure the real memory
usage of "httpd" and her children.
Under Linux, summing up 'ps -auxw | grep httpd' gives me a huge number
that does not reflect shared memory. How can I found out the real
memory usage?
Thanks!!!
Rob
We've never had any candidates come in with any level of depth with
mod_perl but I'd vet their competency with it by asking them to explain
the closure problem with variables my'd under Apache::Registry. Anyone
cognizant of those issues should presumably know how to sanely use
Registry scripts
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Robert Locke wrote:
To make a long story short, my advice would be to use POST and not
GET. I think that might work.
Then you get something in access_log too.
73
Ged.
On 03-Dec-99 Robin Berjon wrote:
I think the problem touches computer people as a whole. It is getting hard
or impossible to find contractors that aren't booked for the next six
months in some areas of knowledge. Granted it must be easier to find a Java
programmer though.
Unfortunately,
"Ian" == Ian Kallen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ian We've never had any candidates come in with any level of depth with
Ian mod_perl but I'd vet their competency with it by asking them to explain
Ian the closure problem with variables my'd under Apache::Registry. Anyone
Ian cognizant of those
On 03-Dec-99 Robin Berjon wrote:
At 12:35 03/12/1999 +0100, Victor Zamouline wrote:
Great sites using mod_perl may want to explicitely state being proud of it,
with a kind of mod_perl logo. I will willingly decorate my mod_perl'ed site
(www.jazzvalley.com) with a mod_perl stamp on every page.
that's what I meant :)
Since %INC is a hash, and it's order unpredictable, it's possible that DBI
be re-required before Apache::DBI. But maybe something else is going on
too...
here's the code from the guide:
while (my($k,$v) = each %INC) {
delete $INC{$k};
require $k;
}
--Geoff
Jason Bodnar wrote:
Unfortunately, another big part of the problem is that many so-called
'forward
thinking' companies aren't willing to hire tele-commuters, even for contract
positions. I'm interested in doing some moonlight consultant work but there
isn't alot of mod_perl activity going on
On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 12:00:38PM -0500, Young, Geoffrey S. wrote:
that's what I meant :)
Since %INC is a hash, and it's order unpredictable, it's possible that DBI
be re-required before Apache::DBI. But maybe something else is going on
too...
here's the code from the guide:
while
To my opinion, out of the responses to a definition of a "mod_perl
experience", two are worth emphasizing:
1. Perl programming style with mod_perl techniques in mind
2. Abstraction from standard CGI constraints and high stakes on mod_perl's
features unavailable in vanilla CGI
There should be a
1. Perl programming style with mod_perl techniques in mind
2. Abstraction from standard CGI constraints and high stakes on
mod_perl's features unavailable in vanilla CGI
What about "bipolar" Perl-web programming tactics, like Embperl?
It can be as either CGI or mod_perl, and yet it is not
"Tim" == Tim Bunce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tim I presumed (I've not looked) that it would reload the new interpreter
Tim in the same way that the original one was and thus would reload modules
Tim in the same order.
You can *presume* that, but I don't recall anywhere in the Perl
interpreter
Nice argument but there's a flaw in it :) Do you have any idea how hard it
is to find a "skilled unix admin"? In fact (this is off topic but I'm
desperate), if there is someone in the Seattle area that's looking, there
is an immediate opening...
--Jauder
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Richard Dice wrote:
PerlMonth is starting a Jobs list. You can post your job openings
at http://www.perlmonth.com/jobs/ absolutely free. One of the
features that will soon be available is when someone is viewing
Stas's mod_perl column, or any other mod_perl related article,
there will be a link to mod_perl
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Robin Berjon wrote:
That takes a strong logo and... possibly a more artistic name for mod_perl?
The Eagle book doesn't have it on it's cover though,
Well, actually, it does... on the first line, but who cares?
so it might be possible if anyone's got some good suggestion
"Baiju" == Baiju Thakkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Baiju PerlMonth is starting a Jobs list. You can post your job openings
Baiju at http://www.perlmonth.com/jobs/ absolutely free. One of the
Baiju features that will soon be available is when someone is viewing
Baiju Stas's mod_perl column, or
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Jeffrey Baker wrote:
Most people are lazy. Since it is easier to get started with
VB/ASP/Crapomatic-9000, most people are going to start there. The
people with real initiative and drive will always find their way over to
mod_perl or other advanced solutions. The only
I am having a _really_ strange problem with return() under mod_perl. It
seems that any time I attempt to do a return REDIRECT after I have accessed
any passed parameters, the redirect will fail. However, if I do the
redirect without accessing any passed parameters (either via POST or GET),
I have had similar problems, and the solution seems to be (not sure why) to
print the redirect the same way you would using CGI.pm and
$r-send_http_header and then return OK, as in:
use CGI;
use Apache;
use Apache::Constants 'OK';
sub handler {
my $r = shift;
my $q = CGI-new();
my
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Jason Simms wrote:
I am having a _really_ strange problem with return() under mod_perl. It
seems that any time I attempt to do a return REDIRECT after I have accessed
any passed parameters, the redirect will fail. However, if I do the
redirect without accessing any
But, the strange part is, when I use the following code, the browser
spins and spins and finally just dies when it reaches the return():
sub handler {
my $r = shift;
my %args = $r-content;
content() reads the data sent by the client. When it's called a second
time by the
Now the question is: if this is truth and you feel the same way, how do we
make the world know that there is a great demand for mod_perl programmers
and that people should learn mod_perl and not the stright-forward choice
like VB, ASP or other technology that drives the web?
Great sites
Does anybody see a niche for a new web-hosting company specializing in
mode_perl and other goodies, rather than the generic "package" ? Matt ?
That could ease the management problem of "we agree mod_perl is great,
but our hoster won't run it".
I for one ended up having to host my own website
Well, someone mentioned an eagle. How about the eagle image for an
alternative mod_perl logo? I was thinking about hedgehog as one that
protected from everything, exactly like mod_perl...
Well mod_perl as a project has gotten the permission to
use the camel right ? I suggest we keep the
On 3 Dec 1999, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
"Scott" == Scott Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Scott I am new to Mod_Perl. I don't know what all it's good for. My
Scott question is, what do they mean by "mod_perl experience". I can
Scott compile Apache with mod_perl and make emb_perl work
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Bunce) wrote:
On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 12:00:38PM -0500, Young, Geoffrey S. wrote:
that's what I meant :)
Since %INC is a hash, and it's order unpredictable, it's possible that DBI
be re-required before Apache::DBI. But maybe something else is going on
too...
Hi,
Thank you so much for your overwhelming response! I've received about 30
offers! I know that I didn't respond to everybody yet, I'll do it soon.
So the chosen new home is called HBE (http://hbe.ca) and I'm glad that
Richard Dice and Philippe Chiasson, the two folks you all know, are in
a
Stas Bekman wrote:
Hi, folks
You wouldn't beleive but I receive a great deal of mod_perl job offers.
Here is a partial quote of the most generic content of the offer:
At any rate, we're finding it very hard to find mod_perl people and I
thought maybe you could refer me to
Can you wonder why a large corporation would rather go with ASP for most
web apps as long as it gets the job done and it's pain threshhold is not
too high. Same with reasons for going with NT as a File Server or WEb
Server. Sure it sucks for sophisicated stuff ,but 90% of places don't
really
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Stas Bekman wrote:
suggested the following layout (I've added a bit):
www.modperl.org
jobs.modperl.org
dist.modperl.org
docs.modperl.org
search.modperl.org
books.modperl.org
conference.modperl.org (I'll talk about this one next time)
vs. a basic domain
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Stas Bekman wrote:
suggested the following layout (I've added a bit):
www.modperl.org
jobs.modperl.org
dist.modperl.org
docs.modperl.org
search.modperl.org
books.modperl.org
conference.modperl.org (I'll talk about this one next time)
vs. a basic
Baiju Thakkar wrote:
Well, someone mentioned an eagle. How about the eagle image for an
alternative mod_perl logo? I was thinking about hedgehog as one that
protected from everything, exactly like mod_perl...
Well mod_perl as a project has gotten the permission to
use the camel
On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, Stas Bekman wrote:
Now unfortunately a lot of people don't share our views on money. They
want to maximize the monetary value of their mod_perl knowledge, which
is all well and good as far as I care. The problem for these folks is
that the more widespread basic
On 03-Dec-99 Gunther Birznieks wrote:
I think mod_perl is sufficiently hard that even as more people learn how
to do the simple stuff, mod_perl will still be 'difficult' enough. I don't
think it is like Java or Perl where the stratification is there in the
language knowledge. Unless mod_perl
Talking about "let's do something" topics on the mod_perl list is a waste
of time, unfortunately... The motto of this list regarding new things is
"think it, implement it and give it"...
This is somewhat too straightforward, Stas. Look - I only suggested there
should be another name and another
I'm not seeing the proper behavior from either EMBPERL_LOG or EMBPERL_DEBUG.
Here's the configuration in httpd.conf:
Perlrequire /www/www/lib/modperl-startup.pl
PerlSetEnv EMBPERL_OPTIONS 2178
PerlSetEnv EMBPERL_LOG /tmp/embperl_testlog
PerlSetEnv EMBPERL_DEBUG
"The association between the image of a white-tailed eagle and the
topic of Apache modules is a trademark of O'Reilly Associates."
Jim
On Dec 04, Victor Zamouline wrote:
Talking about "let's do something" topics on the mod_perl list is a waste
of time, unfortunately... The motto of this list
"The association between the image of a white-tailed eagle and the
topic of Apache modules is a trademark of O'Reilly Associates."
So it is either a question of getting O'Reilly's authorization, or
abandonning the eagle idea. Stats proposed a hedgehog. John Burns proposed a
red brick base of a
"The association between the image of a white-tailed eagle and the
topic of Apache modules is a trademark of O'Reilly Associates."
The association between Camel and Perl is also O'Reilly's trademark, yet we
see a camel on www.perl.com, right?
Vic.
"The association between the image of a white-tailed eagle and the
topic of Apache modules is a trademark of O'Reilly Associates."
The association between Camel and Perl is also O'Reilly's trademark, yet we
see a camel on www.perl.com, right?
Vic.
www.perl.com is O'Reilly's site. Check the
On Dec 04, Victor Zamouline wrote:
"The association between the image of a white-tailed eagle and the
topic of Apache modules is a trademark of O'Reilly Associates."
The association between Camel and Perl is also O'Reilly's trademark, yet we
see a camel on www.perl.com, right?
This has
I got a strange problem: I succeed install and run embperl on my machine
which everything works fine but I could not access any image file in my
/var/www/htdocs/embperl_test or its sub-directories.
I had three gif files there (blank.gif, minus.gif, plus.gif), but they
could not be shown in a
What does the error log say?
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On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Jearanai Vongsaard wrote:
I got a strange problem: I succeed install
Hi,
I do not know whether the following will help in identifying
the problem:
We are running Oracle's 'analyze' on all our tables once every
day. Oracle support person us told that there is some problem
with the cost-based optimization that is done by Oracle (after
'analyze'), which
"G.W. Haywood" wrote:
On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Robin Berjon wrote:
That takes a strong logo and... possibly a more artistic name for mod_perl?
The Eagle book doesn't have it on it's cover though,
Well, actually, it does... on the first line, but who cares?
so it might be possible if
What are current opinions of Apache/mod_perl on Solaris 7?
A company that I am consulting for has different opinions on this subject
than I have.
I have had no trouble making and operating various front-end/back-end
combinations with no difficulty at all.
They have had trouble making and
On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 11:38:35PM -0700, Michael Dearman wrote:
"G.W. Haywood" wrote:
How about ``Eagle''?
Exactly what I was just thinking.
Apache Stronghold
Apache Eagle
Um, isn't that animal taken by O'Rielly?
How about an oyster? Perhaps not as american-patriotic but just think
At 10:11 03/12/1999 -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
"Baiju" == Baiju Thakkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Baiju PerlMonth is starting a Jobs list. You can post your job openings
Baiju at http://www.perlmonth.com/jobs/ absolutely free. One of the
Baiju features that will soon be available is when
Randy Harmon wrote:
Um, isn't that animal taken by O'Rielly?
The O'Reilly Eagle is a Tawny Eagle.
Thar be golden, spotted, bald, imperial, harpy ... well, plenty to go
around.
Still, it'd be nice to be able to use The Eagle. Logo promotes the book.
To
honor the first tome of mod_perl. Book
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