Re: Is Sort:Naturally a Little Off?

2021-09-25 Thread Smylers
ay round to each other. I wonder why. (Not relevant to any bug in Sort::Naturally, but it's now intriguing me.) Smylers

Re: Is Sort:Naturally a Little Off?

2021-09-25 Thread Smylers
aturally line? It looks it to me. But there's clearly far more going on here than I understand. Smylers

Re: Module naming -- processing 3D JPEG files...

2017-05-03 Thread Smylers
BC writes: > I'd like some feedback and advice for naming some modules I am > contemplating. > >Image::Stereo::MPO >Image::Stereo::JPS >Image::Stereo::JPG Sounds good to me — you've clearly considered this carefully, and your explanations make sense. Smylers --

Re: A funny module that shortens one-liners - is it worth global namespace?

2017-01-03 Thread Smylers
sting ones, then others might too. Don't be discouraged from publishing yours as an alternative for users to choose from. Smylers -- http://twitter.com/Smylers2

Re: Namespace advice for Git-related package

2016-10-27 Thread Smylers
up with an adjective that distinguishes itself from yours. Alternatively, Devel::Git::MultiBisect would indicate that this is a tool for Perl development use. Good luck! Smylers -- http://twitter.com/Smylers2

Re: Naming stuff is hard.. Data::Topology::JSON

2016-10-24 Thread Smylers
Aaron Trevena writes: > On 24 October 2016 at 09:49, Smylers <smyl...@stripey.com> wrote: > > > If your module is Json-specifiec and there already exists a JSON:: > > top-level namespace, then I think it's much better to put it > > somewhere under JSON:: than Data::

Re: Naming stuff is hard.. Data::Topology::JSON

2016-10-24 Thread Smylers
r to put it somewhere under JSON:: than Data::, which is so generic it tells users very little about the module's purpose. How about JSON::Schema::Inferred? Smylers -- http://twitter.com/Smylers2

Re: Boolean As a Top Level Name

2016-09-12 Thread Smylers
m/thelexicon/ So maybe Math::Boolean::Minimise would be the best name, to annoy everybody equally? Smylers -- http://twitter.com/Smylers2

Re: Boolean As a Top Level Name

2016-09-12 Thread Smylers
ne that's valid in both makes more sense. There are plenty of cases (like ‘colour’/‘color’) where UK and USA spellings are disjoint and you just have to pick one which will be ‘wrong’ somewhere, but this isn't one of those cases. Smylers * I believe -ize was the original UK form, in use at the p

Re: Comment on module name Data::ETL

2016-05-04 Thread Smylers
s docs, whereas it'd be sad for a would-be fan of your module never to learn of its existence. Smylers -- http://twitter.com/Smylers2

Re: Comment on module name Data::ETL

2016-05-03 Thread Smylers
to be used with other modules in your framework and doesn't really make sense as a standalone module for somebody just wanting to extract data from an Excel spreadsheet (and get back a Perl data structure they can do what they want with). The brand name indicates that it's part of the framework and to be used with that. Hope that helps. Smylers -- http://twitter.com/Smylers2

Re: throw away module namespace

2014-12-16 Thread Smylers
putting unfinished serious modules in Acme, it makes it harder to find the fun! Smylers -- http://twitter.com/Smylers2

Re: MetaCpan SEO (Was: How to add your avatar to Google search results involving CPAN modules)

2013-11-20 Thread Smylers
be: • Get a job at Google (they seem to always be recruiting). • Join the search algorithm team. • Enhance the algorithm to address the above. Any takers? Smylers -- The UK gov's proposed gagging law will suppress protest and campaigning by charities and political groups. Read more: http

Re: How to add your avatar to Google search results involving CPAN modules

2013-11-18 Thread Smylers
giving prominence in search results to people who pay them for that privilege. (Not criticizing your article at all, Gabor — given that Google are doing this, it makes sense for Cpan authors who are on Google+ to link their accounts as you describe.) Smylers -- The UK gov's proposed gagging law

Re: please help me name a module

2013-09-13 Thread Smylers
Greg Lindahl writes: On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 05:38:00PM +0100, Smylers wrote: How about Vehicle::Tesla::ModelS then? Does putting Device:: in front of that lot actually add anything, other than to the unwieldiness of the name? Vehicle:: doesn't generalize very well to toasters

Re: please help me name a module

2013-09-12 Thread Smylers
Device:: in front of that lot actually add anything, other than to the unwieldiness of the name? Smylers -- Stop drug companies hiding negative research results. Sign the AllTrials petition to get all clinical research results published. Read more: http://www.alltrials.net/blog/the-alltrials-campaign/

Re: What to call a module that rewrites Perl code

2013-08-31 Thread Smylers
OK, too. It's better for a module name to be generally helpful in indicating its purpose rather than precisely correct in all circumstances. If you see the major use of your module to be for refactoring Perl, then I think you should feel free to use this name. Smylers -- Stop drug companies hiding

Re: Module naming and a couple other questions

2012-09-15 Thread Smylers
under a different licence. That way you can postpone researching the matter further until somebody does (or possibly never). Cheers Smylers -- New series of TV puzzle show 'Only Connect' (some questions by me) Mondays at 20:30 on BBC4, or iPlayer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/onlyconnect

Re: RFC: the Author:: namespace

2012-09-09 Thread Smylers
you mean by that? If you aren't sure whether something would be worthwhile, upload it anyway. If necessary write in the Pod that the interface is subject to change and anybody using it should e-mail you to let you know. Cheers Smylers -- New series of TV puzzle show 'Only Connect' (some

Re: How do I arrange for Makefile.PL to create a modulino instance script?

2012-09-04 Thread Smylers
to come up with a filename which makes both a good command name for users and works well as module name in a use line by something else which wants to use the module. Cheers Smylers -- http://twitter.com/Smylers2

Re: sudo in Const::Fast

2012-07-20 Thread Smylers
Shawn H Corey writes: On 12-07-19 01:07 PM, Smylers wrote: Please can you run: $ cpan -J | grep sudo 'mbuild_install_build_command' = 'sudo ./Build', 'make_install_make_command' = 'sudo /usr/bin/make', Great, so we've found where sudo

Re: sudo in Const::Fast

2012-07-19 Thread Smylers
have a file called ~/.cpan/CPAN/MyConfig.pm? If so, are there any lines mentioning sudo in there? Smylers -- http://twitter.com/Smylers2

Re: sudo in Const::Fast

2012-07-19 Thread Smylers
Shawn H Corey writes: On 12-07-19 11:34 AM, Smylers wrote: Do you have a file called ~/.cpan/CPAN/MyConfig.pm? If so, are there any lines mentioning sudo in there? No, none. Well that rules out one possibility, so we must be getting closer! Please can you run: $ cpan -J | grep sudo

Re: Naming of Perl module

2011-12-14 Thread Smylers
Perl way of spelling it: % perl -E say ref qr// It's also a superset of the spelling 'Regex', so searching for 'Regex' should still find it, whereas searching for 'Regexp' wouldn't match 'Regex'. On the downside, 'Regexp' is considerably harder to say than 'Regex'.) Smylers

Re: Naming of Perl module

2011-12-14 Thread Smylers
Bill Ward writes: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Smylers smyl...@stripey.com wrote: Bill Ward writes: File::RegexMatch? I think having ::Find:: in there would be better, so that it's immediately obvious that this module performs a similar task to the other modules already

Re: avoid running CPAN as root

2010-01-12 Thread Smylers
. Though that can be irritating if your install hangs at that point, waiting for you to provide a password. An alternative is to pre-authenticate sudo with the -v flag, so that even the first install will become root without prompting: % sudo -v cpan Acme::MetaSyntactic Smylers -- Watch

Re: module name for test data?

2009-09-30 Thread Smylers
Ovid writes: If these corpuses (corpi?) Corpora (similar to opus - opera). Smylers

Re: module name for test data?

2009-09-29 Thread Smylers
guessed; apologies if it came across as overly pedantic. But in some ways module names _are_ code, and I've previously encountered users on case-insensitive file-systems writing code with module names all lower-case -- which runs for them, but not elsewhere -- so I thought it worth checking. Smylers

Re: module name for test data?

2009-09-28 Thread Smylers
of those names sound bad -- they're all pretty self- explanatory, so any of them would do. Smylers

Re: Name for barcode-reading module?

2009-02-17 Thread Smylers
::Recognizer. Anyone have any better ideas? Barcode::OCR? Barcode::Decode or ::Decoder? Barcode::Interpreter? Barcode::Read? Barcode::Image2Numbers? Smylers

Re: Name for barcode-reading module?

2009-02-17 Thread Smylers
Keith Ivey writes: (It seems like object-oriented modules should have names that are nouns, I agree. (The non-noun suggestions were in case your module isn't object oriented.) Smylers

Re: Module::Install is a time bomb

2008-10-01 Thread Smylers
'; # Knows to look in inc/bundled/ The general-purpose logic for doing version comparisons lives in latest.pm . But what if the bundled version of latest.pm is buggy and I already have a later latest.pm installed on my system? That will use the wrong one!! Smylers

Re: Naming help - XML plist (Apple/Mac/iTunes)

2008-06-15 Thread Smylers
, I've got this XML data -- I know, a plist would be a good way of handling that). Whereas if it's purpose is to handle a particular Apple format (I've got this plist; how can I deal with that in Perl?), then that should be what is emphasized in the name. Smylers

Re: Naming help - XML plist (Apple/Mac/iTunes)

2008-06-15 Thread Smylers
them. Smylers

Re: How to challenge a cpan-testers test result?

2008-05-27 Thread Smylers
://testers.cpan.org/author/ROODE.rss Smylers

Re: Naming convention for thin wrappers around C libfoo.so ?

2007-12-10 Thread Smylers
to be associated with, but then so do most Cpan namespaces -- I'm sure you won't be tainted by them! Or if you want Lib::, then Lib::memcached makes the most sense. Smylers

Re: (OT) Re: S/SA/SAPER/relative-0.02.tar.gz (feature request)

2007-10-09 Thread Smylers
, '... and the object it returns'; Those BEGIN blocks really annoy the hell out of me at times :( Well don't have them then -- put the assignment in the use statement, which is run at BEGIN time anyway: use Test::More tests = 1; my $CLASS; use ok $CLASS = 'DateTime'; Smylers

Re: Module Proposal: Log::Any

2007-09-07 Thread Smylers
/perl595delta.pod#Module_changes Smylers

Re: CPAN testers machines that lack Module::Build

2007-03-14 Thread Smylers
to redo your distribution. Which for some people is fine, and, on balance, their prefered way of working. But it doesn't suit everybody. Smylers

Re: CPAN testers machines that lack Module::Build

2007-03-13 Thread Smylers
module at all, it seems). Those using Module::Build still get the Build.PL, so shouldn't be any worse off than they are at the moment. Smylers

Re: Custom extensions to META.yml

2007-03-03 Thread Smylers
A. Pagaltzis writes: * Smylers [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-03-02 22:55]: A. Pagaltzis writes: * Smylers [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-03-01 21:45]: ... how do you tell whether `bastract` is a typo or extension field? You can't. But equally you can't tell if hints: test-reporter

Re: Custom extensions to META.yml

2007-03-02 Thread Smylers
A. Pagaltzis writes: * Smylers [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-03-01 21:45]: Can't we just start using cc-author as a field, then if it takes off get it blessed as part of the official spec? Then how do you tell whether `bastract` is a typo or extension field? You can't. But equally you

Re: Custom extensions to META.yml

2007-03-02 Thread Smylers
arbitrary which headers have X- and which don't, and very hard to remember. Smylers

Re: Custom extensions to META.yml

2007-03-01 Thread Smylers
kind of problem: notes is very generic (like other or misc), such that it's arbitrary which is a 'proper' field and which is a 'notes' field. Can't we just start using cc-author as a field, then if it takes off get it blessed as part of the official spec? Smylers

Re: James Freeman's other modules

2007-01-12 Thread Smylers
trying to solve here. But that's largely irrelevant -- because however good your idea is, there's bound to be somebody in the Perl community questioning it or objecting to it! So don't wait for approval: just do it, whatever it is, then show folks. Good luck! Smylers

Re: Module DNS::ZoneParse

2007-01-03 Thread Smylers
. I'm reading this on the Module Authors mailing list, where Dariusz's original message had these headers: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: module-authors@perl.org, modules@perl.org Smylers

Re: no contact with author

2007-01-02 Thread Smylers
Darek Dwornikowski writes: Dave Rolsky napisał(a): On Tue, 2 Jan 2007, Alberto Simões wrote: Accordingly with http://search.cpan.org/~simonflk/, Simon last release date for all modules is 25 Mar 2005. I would say the best approach is to fork it... In this case, if the author

Re: RFC: new module Finance::MortgageCalculator

2006-11-05 Thread Smylers
! Smylers

Re: RFC: new module Finance::MortgageCalculator

2006-11-01 Thread Smylers
you are doing will be appropriate in other countries? Something like Finance::Mortgages::ZZ may be more appropriate, where ZZ is your country code. Smylers

Re: RFC: new module Finance::MortgageCalculator

2006-11-01 Thread Smylers
Chris writes: On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Smylers wrote: Dmitri Tikhonov writes: I intend to write a new module, Finance::MortgageCalculator, with the express purpose of calculating mortgages. Does anyone foresee any problem with the name? Which country's mortgage markets are you

Re: RFC: new module Finance::MortgageCalculator

2006-11-01 Thread Smylers
know this is a Perl library that does something, it doesn't really add anything. Smylers

Re: Give up your modules!

2006-08-16 Thread Smylers
, That was discussed on this list soon after it launched. My memory is that we decided that it was OK for AnnoCpan to alert an author the first time a comment is made on her module, and then give the option of subscribing to future alerts. Smylers

Re: Fwd: Indexing for AI-Prolog-0.735_01?

2006-08-04 Thread Smylers
volunteers at once. Smylers

Re: Preserving Supplementary Documentation, Take 2

2006-07-24 Thread Smylers
to the thread, making sure you include the entire list, and see what happens. Smylers

Re: ISO8601 Module: Would this be worth writing?

2006-05-27 Thread Smylers
by default, so you don't need to do anything special to get it. Smylers

Re: RFC: Set::Partition

2006-05-24 Thread Smylers
where the user supplied a hash surely you could remember this and return the results as a hash too? Smylers

Re: I think we can just scrap CPAN Ratings altogether

2006-05-24 Thread Smylers
to know. Smylers

Re: Testing an FTP module

2006-04-03 Thread Smylers
this shouldn't mess things up in automated environments. Smylers

Re: Naming advice: parse info out of Build.PL/Makefile.PL

2006-03-10 Thread Smylers
namespace into lots of separate namespaces for each of the niches. If Module:: is what's being used then use it, and don't worry that sometimes packages don't contain any modules. Smylers

Re: New Module Proposal - Math::Interval

2006-03-04 Thread Smylers
. It is harder for a coder to enter style-heaven than it is to fit a CamelHump through the eye of the community? Smylers

Re: Naming advice for a templating module

2006-03-04 Thread Smylers
to many modules, so it isn't as reasonable for one particular templating module to snaffle that entire top-level namespace from everybody else. Smylers

Re: Perl editing support in Vim (was: FF:: namespace)

2005-12-04 Thread Smylers
A. Pagaltzis writes: * Smylers [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-12-04 03:35]: That's because the default ftplugin/perl.vim sets iskeyword to include the colon, so that all gets treated as a single word. Until now I hadn't seen a disadvantage of removing that colon, but now you've pointed

Re: New module: FLV file parsing

2005-12-03 Thread Smylers
A. Pagaltzis writes: * Smylers [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-12-02 22:10]: Eric Wilhelm writes: I'm working on CAD::DXF for now, Cad is a well-known acronym. I have no use for anything cad-related in my life at the moment, so I know that I can safely ignore that module

Re: New module: FLV file parsing

2005-12-03 Thread Smylers
! If some of the rest of us (including a modules' author) are fussy it doesn't make module names worse for you ... Smylers -- May God bless us with enough foolishness to believe that we can make a difference in this world, so that we can do what others claim cannot be done.

Re: New module: FLV file parsing

2005-12-03 Thread Smylers
Austin Schutz writes: On Sat, Dec 03, 2005 at 08:30:20AM +, Smylers wrote: [Austin wrote:] Do I care what it's called? A large search results listing is one such place. You want to be able to pick out the potentially useful modules from the list, so having their names

Re: FF:: namespace (was: New module: FLV file parsing)

2005-12-03 Thread Smylers
some of them are to do with file-types), rather than all the modules dealing with file-types. Smylers -- May God bless us with enough foolishness to believe that we can make a difference in this world, so that we can do what others claim cannot be done.

Re: FF:: namespace (was: New module: FLV file parsing)

2005-12-03 Thread Smylers
Eric Wilhelm writes: # from Smylers # on Saturday 03 December 2005 03:41 am: That sounds tedious when written down like this, but basically it just involves holding down Ctrl and pressing P and X a few times. Neat. My vim does it all at once if the syntax mode is perl :-) Ah, so

Re: New module: FLV file parsing

2005-12-02 Thread Smylers
-- enough of a clue to know whether I'm interested in investigating the module further if it I see it in the 'recent uploads' list. Smylers -- May God bless us with enough foolishness to believe that we can make a difference in this world, so that we can do what others claim cannot be done.

Re: New module: FLV file parsing

2005-12-02 Thread Smylers
that HTML is its dominant usage. CSS has recently been used to format a book using Yes Logic's Prince ... but HTML was still used for the mark-up. Smylers -- May God bless us with enough foolishness to believe that we can make a difference in this world, so that we can do what others claim cannot

Re: RFC - Data::SelectWithoutReplacement

2005-11-17 Thread Smylers
it from using PowerSet in its name. (I rule out Algorithm::*, since the you're not actually supposed to care how it does its business, only that it does it). That's a good point, and I completely agree with you on it. Smylers -- May God bless us with enough foolishness to believe that we can

Re: Apache::Reload on Cpan

2005-08-24 Thread Smylers
for confirming it. I've just scheduled MSERGEANT/Apache-Reload-0.07.tar.gz for reindexing ... Thank you! Smylers -- May God bless us with enough foolishness to believe that we can make a difference in this world, so that we can do what others claim cannot be done.

Re: Apache::Reload on Cpan

2005-08-23 Thread Smylers
Matt Sergeant writes: On 22 Aug 2005, at 09:55, Smylers wrote: ... there seems to be something odd about the Apache-Reload-0.07 distribution. I first noticed that my usual way of jumping to a module's documentation on the Cpan Search website doesn't work: http://search.cpan.org

Re: IO::ALL (Was: check for errors on close())

2005-04-27 Thread Smylers
Sam Vilain writes: Smylers wrote: Sam (or any other IO::All users reading this), what's your experience of IO::All? How much effort has it saved you? Does it make your code look Hi Sam -- thanks for taking the time to answer. I've only just begun to reap the benefits of it. After

Re: IO::ALL (Was: check for errors on close())

2005-04-24 Thread Smylers
previously, but concatenating and interpolating strings, awkwardly and non-cross-platformily; so it's a definite improvement.) Smylers -- May God bless us with enough foolishness to believe that we can make a difference in this world, so that we can do what others claim cannot be done.

Re: Bootstrapping a module community

2005-04-24 Thread Smylers
there are other people also reading that feed who did likewise and then actually went on to use the modules. Smylers -- May God bless us with enough foolishness to believe that we can make a difference in this world, so that we can do what others claim cannot be done.

Re: RFC: DBIx::Counter - Manipulate named counters stored in a database

2005-04-17 Thread Smylers
Rhesa Rozendaal writes: Smylers wrote: my %opts = (countername = $countername, @_); [...] bless \%opts, $pkg; But supplying the default values for each individual option means this technique doesn't avoid having a line listing each option -- it just saves having to mention

Re: Forgot password, outdated address

2005-04-06 Thread Smylers
Chris Josephes writes: Any idea of what it would take to get a password reset on a CPAN account? Mail modules@perl.org and ask what you can do to persuade one of the people there that you are who you say you are. Smylers

Re: Namespace Advice

2005-04-06 Thread Smylers
Philippe 'BooK' Bruhat writes: Le mercredi 06 avril 2005 à 12:11, Smylers écrivait: Also PropertySet makes it sounds that it _sets_ properties, whereas you said your module reads them. It all depends if you hear set as a noun or as a verb, doesn't it? Yes, but it's quite common

Re: Should DSLIP codes be updated?

2005-03-30 Thread Smylers
is stored, we still have to address Robert's original points about the data itself. Smylers

Re: Name for GStreamer bindings

2005-02-23 Thread Smylers
line and in any class methods, often just a constructor. GST can mean many things (try Googling for it) -- even within the context of Gnome it has another meaning: http://www.gnome.org/projects/gst/ Smylers

Re: Algorithm::RootFind Request for Comments

2005-02-15 Thread Smylers
there isn't an obvious name for what it represents; that is often a red flag that such an entity is representing an artificial entity. Smylers

Re: When the prophet won't go to the mountain, the mountain must go to the prophet.

2005-01-08 Thread Smylers
appreciated. Smylers

Re: MySQL::Backup?

2004-10-27 Thread Smylers
, if not being terrible is now my criteria for naming? Smylers

Re: MySQL::Backup?

2004-10-26 Thread Smylers
Christopher Hicks writes: On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Smylers wrote: ... DBIx:: should be for things that are generally usable with DBI, where the I is independent ... I agree with Chris much more than Smylers here, but if we go along with Smylers perspective for a minute then we need /some

Re: advice for Perl 6 module

2004-10-02 Thread Smylers
in having a new server with such an old perl on it. But even several years after Perl 6's release I don't think it'll be unusual to have Perl 5 around. Smylers

Re: Mail::Vacation abondoned?

2004-08-15 Thread Smylers
://www.perl.com/pub/a/2004/06/10/email.html Smylers

Re: Mail::Vacation abondoned?

2004-08-14 Thread Smylers
with theirs. Smylers

Re: module name for Wily (a text editor) interface client?

2004-08-02 Thread Smylers
for 'Wily' would be reasonable. Smylers

Re: perldoc cgi script

2004-07-29 Thread Smylers
). Smylers

Re: [Module::Build] requires_one_of

2004-07-18 Thread Smylers
with Oracle without him having to do anything with it at all. Almost certainly Wheelerish isn't the best name here, but without knowing what the features in question are I couldn't think of anything more specific. Smylers

Re: META.yml keywords

2004-07-18 Thread Smylers
Ken Williams writes: I think we could get far more mileage out of tuning the search engine better for the needs of perl-module searching, You speak great sense. Now it's back to Simon's point about the source code for it not seeming to be available. Smylers, I think your proposal

Re: Cpan Ratings (Was: Future of the Module List)

2004-07-17 Thread Smylers
. But this still happened without warning, and would be unexpected to most users. Several people, Randal included, found this intrusive and unacceptable. I see that a few weeks ago the author removed all phone-home behaviour, so even this is no longer an issue. Smylers

Cpan Ratings (Was: Future of the Module List)

2004-07-15 Thread Smylers
. Smylers

Re: ANNOUNCE: WWW::Map 0.01

2004-07-10 Thread Smylers
something like the above message when I saw your original mail, but it took me a couple of days to find the time to type it out!) Smylers

Re: New module: CGI::Tooltip

2004-06-19 Thread Smylers
because it uses JavaScript for its implementation would be like putting all object-oriented modules in the Class:: namespace, or saying that Net::SSH::Perl should be in the Perl:: namespace becase it's implemented in Perl, or ... Smylers

Re: Reshaping the modules list: a starting point, help remove the bias.

2004-02-24 Thread Smylers
many modules which exist to provide an interface to a particular website (banks, URL-shortners, search engines). Smylers

Re: Paging Dr. Barr...

2004-02-19 Thread Smylers
/group/perl.modules/28606 Smylers

Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy)

2004-02-15 Thread Smylers
Rocco Caputo writes: On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 08:19:14PM +, Smylers wrote: Similarly an author doesn't need to understand all of the problems, just so long as they state exactly what they are looking at, preferably stated upfront. So the article starts by saying I'm looking

Re: Finding the module you want

2004-02-15 Thread Smylers
David Manura writes: Smylers wrote: But yes, as the CGI::Lite maintainer I do have an interest in a review of CGI-related modules: I'd like it to put people off using CGI::Lite so that I can stop trying to maintain it and everybody can use something saner instead ... Of course

Re: Finding the module you want (was: New module Mail::SendEasy)

2004-02-11 Thread Smylers
have to come up with a test-case and ... then I put the whole thing off for later. Smylers

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