[NTG-context] Questions about natural tables

2013-09-26 Thread MANUEL GONZALEZ SUAREZ
Hello everyone
On page ConTeXt Garden is recommended the use of natural tables. My questions 
are: how do the tables are centered on the page? Can you change the size of the 
tables? Can you include label and caption?
Thanks for your time.
Manuel Gonzalez
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Re: [NTG-context] Questions about natural tables

2013-09-26 Thread Marco Patzer
On 2013–09–26 MANUEL GONZALEZ SUAREZ wrote:

 My questions are: how do the tables are centered on the page?

Horizontal centring is automatically applied when you make it float.

 Can you change the size of the tables?

The width keyword sets the width of the cells. There's also
option=stretch. Individual columns can be set with

  \setupTABLE [column] [2] [width=4cm]

 Can you include label and caption?

That's not a feature of tables, but of the float mechanism.

\starttext
  \startplacetable [title=Some table, reference=tab:foo]
\bTABLE [width=broad]
  \bTR
\bTD Alpha \eTD \bTD Beta  \eTD
  \eTR
  \bTR
\bTD Gamma \eTD \bTD Delta \eTD
  \eTR
\eTABLE
  \stopplacetable
\stoptext

Marco


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Re: [NTG-context] Questions about natural tables

2013-09-26 Thread MANUEL GONZALEZ SUAREZ
Thanks very much, Marco

De: ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl [ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl] en nombre de Marco 
Patzer [li...@homerow.info]
Enviado: jueves, 26 de septiembre de 2013 8:03
Para: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Asunto: Re: [NTG-context] Questions about natural tables

On 2013–09–26 MANUEL GONZALEZ SUAREZ wrote:

 My questions are: how do the tables are centered on the page?

Horizontal centring is automatically applied when you make it float.

 Can you change the size of the tables?

The width keyword sets the width of the cells. There's also
option=stretch. Individual columns can be set with

  \setupTABLE [column] [2] [width=4cm]

 Can you include label and caption?

That's not a feature of tables, but of the float mechanism.

\starttext
  \startplacetable [title=Some table, reference=tab:foo]
\bTABLE [width=broad]
  \bTR
\bTD Alpha \eTD \bTD Beta  \eTD
  \eTR
  \bTR
\bTD Gamma \eTD \bTD Delta \eTD
  \eTR
\eTABLE
  \stopplacetable
\stoptext

Marco

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Re: [NTG-context] Repeat second-level registers within index

2013-09-26 Thread Philipp Gesang
···date: 2013-09-24, Tuesday···from: Thangalin···

 Hi,
 
 How do you prevent ConTeXt from hiding (collapsing?) duplicate level 2
 index items?
 
 For example:
 
   \startitem
 5 array \index{hedgehog+SECTION A}hedgehog
   \stopitem
   \startitem
 7 army \index{herring+SECTION A}herring
   \stopitem
   \startitem
 100 bloat \index{hippopotamuses+SECTION A}hippopotamuses
   \stopitem
 
 The text SECTION A will only appear once in the index, right after
 hedgehog. I would like it to appear once per index term, always.

Confirmed. The subentries aren’t shown if:

  - entries that share a subentry (level 2) are indexed
consecutively, and

  - these entries are different but belong in the same register
section (same initial letter)

Example:

\starttext
  \placeindex

  \page

  \index{a+foo}whatever %% shows up
  \index{aa+foo}   whatever %% doesn’t
  \index{aaa+foo}  whatever %% doesn’t
  \index{+bar} whatever %% shows up
  \index{a+foo}whatever %% shows up
  \index{aa+foo}   whatever %% doesn’t

\stoptext

If you s/bar/foo/ in the fourth invocation of \index, only the
first entry (“a”) of the register will have the subentry “foo”.
Change the initial letters of each entry and all subentries are
printed.

Best regards,
Philipp


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Re: [NTG-context] error when installing ConTeXt Standalone

2013-09-26 Thread Pablo Rodríguez
On 09/25/2013 10:55 PM, Mica Semrick wrote:
 $ source tex/setuptex
 
 Do you do that as root? You probably need to add it to something like
 /etc/bashrc or the like... it sounds like you don't have permission/your
 shell isn't getting the right path...

Both as root and as a regular user. Missing permissions for root? It
would be the first time I see this.

Of course there is something wrong and I don’t know what it is.

Many thanks for your reply,


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Manual Errata

2013-09-26 Thread Marco Patzer
On 2013–09–21 Marco Patzer wrote:

  I did not have the ConTeXt manual source code on hand, so I could
  not directly modify it.
 
   http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Improving_the_manuals
 
 Do not count on someone else to fix it. Create an account and fix
 what you think could be improved, especially the grammar and
 spelling mistakes. If you're unsure about something, write a mail to
 the manual mailing list¹ for questions about the manual (style,
 layout, etc.) or this list for everything else.
 
 Note: The manual has not been updated since a while and it's broken
 at the moment. I'll prepare a fix soon, so it will compile with a
 recent MkIV.

I committed a fix today and now it should compile again. I did not
fix any of your suggestions. You are invited to fix the source or
send in a patch. I or someone else can review and merge them.

The dedicated mailing list for the manual seems to be broken at the
moment. Using this list for manual discussions is also fine, I guess.

Marco


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[NTG-context] tabulate and tolerance

2013-09-26 Thread Peter Münster
Hi,

It seems, that tabulate does not use the tolerance setting:

--8---cut here---start-8---
\setbreakpoints[compound]
\setuptolerance[stretch]
\starttext
\starttabulate[|p(1cm)|l|]
\NC bla-blabla-bla \NC XXX \NC \NR
\stoptabulate

\hsize1cm
bla-blabla-bla
\stoptext
--8---cut here---end---8---

For now, my workaround is \NC \setuptolerance[stretch] bla-blabla-bla \NC

Is there anything better?

TIA for any hints,
-- 
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Re: [NTG-context] tabulate and tolerance

2013-09-26 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 26.09.2013 um 21:33 schrieb Peter Münster pmli...@free.fr:

 Hi,
 
 It seems, that tabulate does not use the tolerance setting:
 
 --8---cut here---start-8---
 \setbreakpoints[compound]
 \setuptolerance[stretch]
 \starttext
 \starttabulate[|p(1cm)|l|]
 \NC bla-blabla-bla \NC XXX \NC \NR
 \stoptabulate
 
 \hsize1cm
 bla-blabla-bla
 \stoptext
 --8---cut here---end---8---
 
 For now, my workaround is \NC \setuptolerance[stretch] bla-blabla-bla \NC
 
 Is there anything better?


You can use the “A” keyword in the table preamble to set values for the 
alignment, e.g. \starttabulate[|p(1cm)A{stretch}|]

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] bug with font

2013-09-26 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 25.09.2013 um 21:45 schrieb Prashanth prash.n@gmail.com:

 Hello,
 
 I update my ConTeXt setup about every couple of weeks. I use Ubuntu font in 
 some of my documents. My setup from 2013-09-11 was selecting the specified 
 fonts correctly. However my setup from 2013-09-25 (today) selects Ubuntu 
 Light when I specify just Ubuntu. When I specifically ask it to use 
 Ubuntu Regular, it forces this weight everywhere (including places where I 
 specify \em).

I can confirm and it will be fixed in the next version of the module but it 
will take a few days before I’m going to release it.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] question about linespace adjustment

2013-09-26 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 25.09.2013 um 23:45 schrieb Lars Huttar lars_hut...@sil.org:

 Wolfgang, thanks for your response.
 
 On 9/25/2013 5:02 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 You can’t expect from \tfa etc. to change the interlinespace because these
 commands can be used in your paragraphs to change the size of certain
 words only and in this case you don’t want a forced change of the 
 interlinespace.
 
 Well... \switchtobodyfont[20pt] can also be used in paragraphs to change
 the size of just a few words.
 But the above suggests that \switchtobodyfont shouldn't be used for that
 purpose, and commands like \tfc should?

You can use \switchtobodyfont to change the size for certain parts of a text
but it’s best to keep this to a minimum because \tfa etc. are a  lot faster.

The reason why you don’t need \setupinterlinespace when you use
\switchtobodyfont is that \setupinterlinespace is already called by
\switchtobodyfont.

Another thing which shouldn’t be forgotten is that \switchtobodyfont
controls and changes the sizes for \tfa etc.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Manual Errata

2013-09-26 Thread Thangalin
Hi,

I registered an account, but have not seen any confirmation.

Kindest regards.


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Marco Patzer li...@homerow.info wrote:

 On 2013–09–21 Marco Patzer wrote:

   I did not have the ConTeXt manual source code on hand, so I could
   not directly modify it.
 
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Improving_the_manuals
 
  Do not count on someone else to fix it. Create an account and fix
  what you think could be improved, especially the grammar and
  spelling mistakes. If you're unsure about something, write a mail to
  the manual mailing list¹ for questions about the manual (style,
  layout, etc.) or this list for everything else.
 
  Note: The manual has not been updated since a while and it's broken
  at the moment. I'll prepare a fix soon, so it will compile with a
  recent MkIV.

 I committed a fix today and now it should compile again. I did not
 fix any of your suggestions. You are invited to fix the source or
 send in a patch. I or someone else can review and merge them.

 The dedicated mailing list for the manual seems to be broken at the
 moment. Using this list for manual discussions is also fine, I guess.

 Marco


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Manual Errata

2013-09-26 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Thu, 26 Sep 2013, Thangalin wrote:


Hi,

I registered an account, but have not seen any confirmation.

Kindest regards.


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Marco Patzer li...@homerow.info wrote:


On 2013–09–21 Marco Patzer wrote:


I did not have the ConTeXt manual source code on hand, so I could
not directly modify it.


  http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Improving_the_manuals

Do not count on someone else to fix it. Create an account and fix
what you think could be improved, especially the grammar and
spelling mistakes. If you're unsure about something, write a mail to
the manual mailing list¹ for questions about the manual (style,
layout, etc.) or this list for everything else.

Note: The manual has not been updated since a while and it's broken
at the moment. I'll prepare a fix soon, so it will compile with a
recent MkIV.


I committed a fix today and now it should compile again. I did not
fix any of your suggestions. You are invited to fix the source or
send in a patch. I or someone else can review and merge them.

The dedicated mailing list for the manual seems to be broken at the
moment. Using this list for manual discussions is also fine, I guess.


Wouldn't it be better to move the manuals to github rather than keeping 
them on an svn server?


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Manual Errata

2013-09-26 Thread Marco Patzer
On 2013–09–26 Thangalin wrote:

 I registered an account, but have not seen any confirmation.

Supelec has problems with the mail system at the moment. So Taco
doesn't get a notification if someone requests commit access. I cc'd
him, so he should get notified that way. In case you still don't get
a confirmation, wait until next week, then he'll be back.

Marco


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Manual Errata

2013-09-26 Thread Marco Patzer
On 2013–09–26 Aditya Mahajan wrote:

 Wouldn't it be better to move the manuals to github rather than
 keeping them on an svn server?

+1

Marco


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Manual Errata

2013-09-26 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, Sep 26 2013, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

 Wouldn't it be better to move the manuals to github rather than keeping them
 on an svn server?

Why?

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Manual Errata

2013-09-26 Thread Mica Semrick
@Peter github makes collaboration quite painless. Users can manage their
own accounts.

+1 for github from me too!


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Peter Münster pmli...@free.fr wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 26 2013, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

  Wouldn't it be better to move the manuals to github rather than keeping
 them
  on an svn server?

 Why?

 --
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[NTG-context] git or svn (was: ConTeXt Manual Errata)

2013-09-26 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, Sep 26 2013, Mica Semrick wrote:

 @Peter github makes collaboration quite painless. Users can manage their own
 accounts. 

I like git because of its features. And when I don't need those
features, I prefer svn because of its simplicity. Where is the pain?
What would be the benefit when moving to github?

-1 (not worth the trouble for me)

(On the other hand, if you sent me some bitcoins, I would be glad to
copy contextman to github. ;)

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Re: [NTG-context] git or svn (was: ConTeXt Manual Errata)

2013-09-26 Thread Mica Semrick
 Where is the pain?
 What would be the benefit when moving to github?

On the thread someone wanted to add something to the manual, but didn't
have SVN access. The admin wasn't getting email, and thus couldn't grant
the new account. The material was not added the to manual.

If the manual was on github, it could have been forked, branched, content
added, pull request made. End of story. So we do want the features of
github.


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Peter Münster pmli...@free.fr wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 26 2013, Mica Semrick wrote:

  @Peter github makes collaboration quite painless. Users can manage their
 own
  accounts.

 I like git because of its features. And when I don't need those
 features, I prefer svn because of its simplicity. Where is the pain?
 What would be the benefit when moving to github?

 -1 (not worth the trouble for me)

 (On the other hand, if you sent me some bitcoins, I would be glad to
 copy contextman to github. ;)

 --
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Manual Errata

2013-09-26 Thread Thangalin
+π from me.

My preference would be BitBucket (slightly simpler than github and allows
for free private repositories), but, either way, the result is the same:
fewer steps to updating the manual. Moving away from svn to git is also a
step in the right direction, IMO.

One aspect of wikis that I thoroughly enjoy is the ability to fix something
(contribute) immediately. Moving to a web-based repository for the manual
removes barriers (such as waiting upon moderated approvals whilst the
moderator vacations) to letting people contribute to projects. Throw in a
nightly build (with blaming) to ensure that the manual compile is never
broken (for long).

Regards.
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Re: [NTG-context] git or svn (was: ConTeXt Manual Errata)

2013-09-26 Thread Thangalin
That is an excellent summation, Mica.


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Mica Semrick paperdig...@gmail.com wrote:

  Where is the pain?
  What would be the benefit when moving to github?

 On the thread someone wanted to add something to the manual, but didn't
 have SVN access. The admin wasn't getting email, and thus couldn't grant
 the new account. The material was not added the to manual.

 If the manual was on github, it could have been forked, branched, content
 added, pull request made. End of story. So we do want the features of
 github.


 On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Peter Münster pmli...@free.fr wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 26 2013, Mica Semrick wrote:

  @Peter github makes collaboration quite painless. Users can manage
 their own
  accounts.

 I like git because of its features. And when I don't need those
 features, I prefer svn because of its simplicity. Where is the pain?
 What would be the benefit when moving to github?

 -1 (not worth the trouble for me)

 (On the other hand, if you sent me some bitcoins, I would be glad to
 copy contextman to github. ;)

 --
Peter

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Re: [NTG-context] git or svn (was: ConTeXt Manual Errata)

2013-09-26 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Thu, 26 Sep 2013, Peter Münster wrote:


On Thu, Sep 26 2013, Mica Semrick wrote:


@Peter github makes collaboration quite painless. Users can manage their own
accounts.


I like git because of its features. And when I don't need those
features, I prefer svn because of its simplicity. Where is the pain?


The last time I tried, merging multiple version in svn is a huge pain. One 
of the advantages of DVCS is that branching and merging are easy.



What would be the benefit when moving to github?


Github seems to be the most popular DVCS hosting site at the moment. For 
manuals, I think that Github is particularly useful because you can click 
on edit and make the change. Github automatically creates a fork, a new 
branch, and pull request for you. So the technical barrier to 
participation is low.



-1 (not worth the trouble for me)

(On the other hand, if you sent me some bitcoins, I would be glad to
copy contextman to github. ;)


https://github.com/nirvdrum/svn2git

Using this is usually as simple as

svn2git http://svn.example.com/path/to/repo

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Re: [NTG-context] bug with font

2013-09-26 Thread Prashanth
On 26/09/13 21:40, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 I can confirm and it will be fixed in the next version of the module but it 
 will take a few days before I’m going to release it.

 Wolfgang


Thanks, Wolfgang! Apparently, this problem started earlier than I
thought yesterday. I have set Euler as my preferred font for math, and
it used to work correctly in ConTeXt with the version timestamp,
2013.06.10 22:51. I hadn't looked closely earlier, but when I checked
now, I discovered that this was not working even in the 2013.09.11 build
of ConTeXt.

I'm quite happy with the 2013.06.10 build, so I'll continue to use that
for now.
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