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2017-12-14 Thread Jon Harris
I believe he was totally correct but when dealing with lawyers or management you can’t quote him and retain your position. Jon From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 11:30 PM To:

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2017-12-14 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
I should have included the full proper quote for those that are new to it: "There are seldom technological solutions for behavioral problems" -- Ed Crowley On Dec 13, 2017 3:34 PM, "Micheal Espinola Jr" wrote: > Technically, yea you could do it. But you'd have to be

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2017-12-14 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
This is really what those involved must be aware of and accountable for. It's their job. "There are seldom technological blah blah blah ... - Ed Crowley" On Dec 14, 2017 9:28 AM, "Michael B. Smith" wrote: > Do this with Compliance Rules/Policies that prohibit the IP. > >

[NTSysADM] Update on KB4053579

2017-12-14 Thread Kurt Buff
I am not satisfied with MSFTs response on this. Here's how it played out. I was able to abscond with an affected laptop, and the tech worked on it for a while. He was eventually able to see that our AV (ESET) was holding onto the drive. I uninstalled ESET, rebooted, and he: - Expanded the

[NTSysADM] RE: VDI options

2017-12-14 Thread Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Thanks, James, I will definitely keep that in mind. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of James Rankin Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 11:03 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: VDI options Here's an example - I was

[NTSysADM] RE: VDI options

2017-12-14 Thread James Rankin
Citrix have Unidesk for an equivalent tech to AppVolumes. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Raymond Peng Sent: 14 December 2017 19:02 To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: VDI options We've rolled out VDI using VMWare

Re: [NTSysADM] VDI options

2017-12-14 Thread Jack Kramer
I’m a big proponent of Horizon—though in the interests of full disclosure that’s partially because I make a living implementing it. The full suite is very powerful but even the basic VDI-only capability is very good, though you will probably want to get your ESXi stack up to 6.0 or 6.5 to

[NTSysADM] RE: VDI options

2017-12-14 Thread James Rankin
Here's an example - I was brought in a couple of years ago for a customer that wanted "to do VDI". Why? They didn't know, they just thought it was the solution to everything. They were going to move 5000 PCs off user desks and into the datacenter, just because they thought it was the right

[NTSysADM] RE: VDI options

2017-12-14 Thread Raymond Peng
We've rolled out VDI using VMWare Horizon ( we are also a VMware shop) - but we also have RDS farms for session based users that are running large jobs or have shared job functions. Many folks here have VDI as well (dedicated VMs) - but there is something to look at called App Volumes which

[NTSysADM] RE: VDI options

2017-12-14 Thread Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Very good points/questions, from you and Webster. I will go back and see if I can get further clarification of what they really want. VDI has been a buzzword thrown around here for years, but I was approached last week by my supervisor and told to look into it, but no real scope. From:

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2017-12-14 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Exactly. DLP can offer some assistance at the technical controls, but ultimately, people have to understand the policy and apply it. Technology can only help somewhat. Regards, *ASB* On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Michael B. Smith wrote: > Do this with

Re: [NTSysADM] VDI options

2017-12-14 Thread James Rankin
VMware isn't bad, Citrix expensive if you want platinum features, not sure whether Parallels do a vdi option? (Webster?) You also might want to look at Frame Sent from my slightly schizophrenic, but rather cool, BlackBerry Android From: joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov Sent: 14 December 2017 4:47

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2017-12-14 Thread Michael B. Smith
Do this with Compliance Rules/Policies that prohibit the IP. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Sean Chapman Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 8:34 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Remove original message in reply

Re: [NTSysADM] VDI options

2017-12-14 Thread Erik Goldoff
in the last few years, I've seen an almost equal mix of VMware Horizon and Citrix (Xen ?) and have not run across Jentu at all. My customers range from local government to major private enterprise, from 5,000 desktops to over 150,000 desktops. Doesn't answer your request for info directly, but

[NTSysADM] RE: VDI options

2017-12-14 Thread James Rankin
I suppose it all depends on your use case for "VDI". Would a published desktop from a server do or does it have to be full fat client VDI for licensing or GPU reasons? Does it have to be on-premise or cloud? Citrix and VMware both have many pricing options now, which could be more palatable

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2017-12-14 Thread Sean Chapman
There have been cases where very long email chains containing intellectual property information has been discussed and these go on for months at a time in some cases back and forth. New people are added to conversations and some people are removed and the owners believe that it’s a good idea

[NTSysADM] VDI options

2017-12-14 Thread Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
I know there are tons of options for VDI out there today. I'm asking what you guys are using, and why. We are a VMWare shop, running ESXi 5.5, but don't own licensing for Horizon. That is currently the front-runner for the VDI project. I have looked at Jentu, very briefly, and while it