RE: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC

2014-06-06 Thread Melvin Backus
@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC I'm pretty sure the OP gets the point, converting to virtual is not the ideal path forward. I think everyone here can appreciate that we don't always have the luxury of choosing the right path. I don't have any direct experience, but it looks like

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC

2014-06-06 Thread Melvin Backus
. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Richard Stovall Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 9:13 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC That's odd. I have done lots of conversions. A number of P2Vs, first to VMware

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC

2014-06-06 Thread David McSpadden
@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC I suppose that was kind of my point. It’s odd. Despite my inherent ‘need to know’ what causes this sort of thing, over the years I’ve come to realize that some things just aren’t “knowable” and learned when to cut my losses and move on. We too moved

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC

2014-06-06 Thread Neil Standley
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC Personally I have never been comfortable with allowing users access to a DC for any reason other than the purpose the DC is for. Allowing a DC as a file server is just asking for trouble and on a 2003 having print server is just asking

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC

2014-06-06 Thread Richard Stovall
. *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Harris *Sent:* Thursday, June 05, 2014 4:13 PM *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC Personally I have never been comfortable with allowing users access

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC

2014-06-06 Thread Neil Standley
, at least up to this point. How would this differ with a DC? From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Link Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 5:40 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC A P2V, especially an offline

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC

2014-06-06 Thread Maglinger, Paul
: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC You'd grill the patties over a flame before you microwave them? On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Neil Standley standl...@net-venture.commailto:standl...@net-venture.com wrote: I completely agree but having limited resources puts me at odds with having DCs that are only DCs

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC

2014-06-06 Thread Neil Standley
Lol, I’d spit on it and walk away. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Richard Stovall Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 8:38 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC You'd grill the patties over a flame before you

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC

2014-06-06 Thread Jonathan Link
:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Jonathan Link *Sent:* Thursday, June 05, 2014 5:40 PM *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC A P2V, especially an offline one, requires some amount of downtime. It's been

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC

2014-06-06 Thread Jonathan Link
] *On Behalf Of *Jonathan Link *Sent:* Thursday, June 05, 2014 5:40 PM *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC A P2V, especially an offline one, requires some amount of downtime. It's been a while since I've done a P2V, but I don't remember them being all

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC

2014-06-06 Thread Neil Standley
@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC I'm also having some trouble with understanding what the resource contention issue is that would cause me to undertake a project to P2V DCs. On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC

2014-06-06 Thread Jonathan Link
...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Jonathan Link *Sent:* Friday, June 06, 2014 8:54 AM *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC I'm also having some trouble with understanding what the resource contention issue

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC

2014-06-06 Thread Free, Bob
Subject: [spam] [dkim-failure] Re: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC You don't have time to do it twice, then. Is it possible to P2V a domain? Yes, certainly, you've done a fair amount of research on the process. During that process, I'm sure you've also seen indications that it isn't recommended. Finally

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC

2014-06-06 Thread Neil Standley
/passing EOL. I appreciate all of the feedback. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Link Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 9:19 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC You don't have time to do it twice

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC

2014-06-06 Thread J- P
They only microwave the heel and the patty to reheat them (at least that's how it was in the 80's lol) Jean-Paul Natola Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 11:37:59 -0400 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC From: rich...@gmail.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com You'd grill the patties over a flame

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC

2014-06-06 Thread Michael B. Smith
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC You don't have time to do it twice, then. Is it possible to P2V a domain? Yes, certainly, you've done a fair amount of research on the process. During that process, I'm sure you've also seen indications that it isn't recommended. Finally, you've come to peers

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC

2014-06-06 Thread Jon Harris
have to fix it until you migrate all the parts to another machine, whether virtual or physical does not matter, until later. YOU still have the same EOL. Jon From: standl...@net-venture.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 18:00:32 +

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC

2014-06-05 Thread J- P
+1 new DC, DCPROMO, old DC demote, and export / import print servers (assuming there are dozens or hundreds) otherwise recreate Jean-Paul Natola From: standl...@net-venture.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 22:14:56 +

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC

2014-06-05 Thread Jon Harris
belong on another machine. Jon From: jnat...@hotmail.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 19:00:50 -0400 +1 new DC, DCPROMO, old DC demote, and export / import print servers (assuming there are dozens or hundreds) otherwise

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC

2014-06-05 Thread Sean Martin
. Both belong on another machine. Jon -- From: jnat...@hotmail.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 19:00:50 -0400 +1 new DC, DCPROMO, old DC demote, and export / import print servers (assuming

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC

2014-06-05 Thread Jonathan Link
-- From: jnat...@hotmail.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: P2V DC Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 19:00:50 -0400 +1 new DC, DCPROMO, old DC demote, and export / import print servers (assuming there are dozens or hundreds) otherwise recreate