[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach and Arctic Terns

[Robert Lewis]

Any news of Arctic Terns on LI, especially Nickerson?  I know an Arctic was 
seen a week or more ago farther east.

Have people been looking at Nickerson without success?  If so, how have you 
handled the logistics?

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach and Arctic Terns

[Robert Lewis]

Any news of Arctic Terns on LI, especially Nickerson?  I know an Arctic was 
seen a week or more ago farther east.

Have people been looking at Nickerson without success?  If so, how have you 
handled the logistics?

Bob Lewis

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach to be closed to NYC residents because of coronavirus

[Cappello, Adriana R (DEC)]

Nickerson Beach is in fact closed to the public. I live near the area and the 
gates are closed and locked.

From: bounce-124641993-83014...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of Long Island Birding . 

Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 4:20 PM
To: Robert Lewis 
Cc: NYSBIRDS ; Ardith Bondi 
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach to be closed to NYC residents because 
of coronavirus


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Hello all,
They had barriers up last week blocking the parking lot, they could possibly 
put those up before and after hours, I might take a drive there this Thursday 
am so I'll let everyone know. I know it is a long drive for some.
Mike

On Tue, May 19, 2020, 4:11 PM Robert Lewis 
mailto:rfer...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
How will this be enforced?  For birding, in the past I simply arrived before, I 
think it was, 8:30.  Who will know?

Bob Lewis
Sleepy Hollow NY






On Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 3:00:53 PM EDT, Ardith Bondi 
mailto:ard...@earthlink.net>> wrote:





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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach to be closed to NYC residents because of coronavirus

[Cappello, Adriana R (DEC)]

Nickerson Beach is in fact closed to the public. I live near the area and the 
gates are closed and locked.

From: bounce-124641993-83014...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of Long Island Birding . 

Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 4:20 PM
To: Robert Lewis 
Cc: NYSBIRDS ; Ardith Bondi 
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach to be closed to NYC residents because 
of coronavirus


ATTENTION: This email came from an external source. Do not open attachments or 
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Hello all,
They had barriers up last week blocking the parking lot, they could possibly 
put those up before and after hours, I might take a drive there this Thursday 
am so I'll let everyone know. I know it is a long drive for some.
Mike

On Tue, May 19, 2020, 4:11 PM Robert Lewis 
mailto:rfer...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
How will this be enforced?  For birding, in the past I simply arrived before, I 
think it was, 8:30.  Who will know?

Bob Lewis
Sleepy Hollow NY






On Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 3:00:53 PM EDT, Ardith Bondi 
mailto:ard...@earthlink.net>> wrote:





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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach to be closed to NYC residents because of coronavirus

[Long Island Birding .]

Hello all,
They had barriers up last week blocking the parking lot, they could
possibly put those up before and after hours, I might take a drive there
this Thursday am so I'll let everyone know. I know it is a long drive for
some.
Mike

On Tue, May 19, 2020, 4:11 PM Robert Lewis  wrote:

> How will this be enforced?  For birding, in the past I simply arrived
> before, I think it was, 8:30.  Who will know?
>
> Bob Lewis
> Sleepy Hollow NY
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 3:00:53 PM EDT, Ardith Bondi <
> ard...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-long-island-beach-laura-curran-bill-de-blasio-20200519-s6p2pe776veplj4qaerlrqtori-story.html
>
> --
>
> NYSbirds-L List Info:
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>
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>
> Please submit your observations to eBird:
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>
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>
> Please submit your observations to eBird:
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>
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>

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach to be closed to NYC residents because of coronavirus

[Long Island Birding .]

Hello all,
They had barriers up last week blocking the parking lot, they could
possibly put those up before and after hours, I might take a drive there
this Thursday am so I'll let everyone know. I know it is a long drive for
some.
Mike

On Tue, May 19, 2020, 4:11 PM Robert Lewis  wrote:

> How will this be enforced?  For birding, in the past I simply arrived
> before, I think it was, 8:30.  Who will know?
>
> Bob Lewis
> Sleepy Hollow NY
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 3:00:53 PM EDT, Ardith Bondi <
> ard...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-long-island-beach-laura-curran-bill-de-blasio-20200519-s6p2pe776veplj4qaerlrqtori-story.html
>
> --
>
> NYSbirds-L List Info:
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> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm
>
> ARCHIVES:
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> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
> 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01
>
> Please submit your observations to eBird:
> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
>
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>
> --
>
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>
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>
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach to be closed to NYC residents because of coronavirus

[Robert Lewis]

How will this be enforced?  For birding, in the past I simply arrived before, I 
think it was, 8:30.  Who will know?

Bob Lewis
Sleepy Hollow NY






On Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 3:00:53 PM EDT, Ardith Bondi  
wrote: 





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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach to be closed to NYC residents because of coronavirus

[Robert Lewis]

How will this be enforced?  For birding, in the past I simply arrived before, I 
think it was, 8:30.  Who will know?

Bob Lewis
Sleepy Hollow NY






On Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 3:00:53 PM EDT, Ardith Bondi  
wrote: 





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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach (Nassau County) Lark Sparrow

[Gail Benson]

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach (Nassau County) Lark Sparrow

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach, September 9

[Robert Lewis]

As I had to be on Long Island for something, I stopped at Nickerson Beach from 
about 3:00 to 5:00.  No one was collecting an admission fee.
At the (somewhat) wet area at the western end, 40.586620, -73.604425, there 
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Least Sandpipers, and one Buff-breasted Sandpiper.
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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach, September 9

[Robert Lewis]

As I had to be on Long Island for something, I stopped at Nickerson Beach from 
about 3:00 to 5:00.  No one was collecting an admission fee.
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Least Sandpipers, and one Buff-breasted Sandpiper.
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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach: Black-bellied Whistling Ducks + Stilt Sandpiper

[José R . Ramírez-Garofalo]

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach: Black-bellied Whistling Ducks + Stilt Sandpiper

[José R . Ramírez-Garofalo]

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[nysbirds-l] nickerson beach

[Herb Smith]

As of 1130 the Wilson's phalarope was still in puddle as previously
reported. Also two black terns were in flock of other terns

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[Herb Smith]

As of 1130 the Wilson's phalarope was still in puddle as previously
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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach (Nassau) Wilson's Phalarope continues

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach (Nassau) Wilson's Phalarope continues

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Report - Nassau County

[Long Island Birding]

Birded Nickerson Beach this morning with the following highlights:
1 Arctic Tern (adult)
1 Gull-billed Tern
1 Roseate Tern (banded)

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Report - Nassau County

[Long Island Birding]

Birded Nickerson Beach this morning with the following highlights:
1 Arctic Tern (adult)
1 Gull-billed Tern
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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach

[Robert Lewis]

Anyone been to Nickerson Beach (Nassau County) recently?  How are the terns?  
Are they collecting parking fees yet?
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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach

[Robert Lewis]

Anyone been to Nickerson Beach (Nassau County) recently?  How are the terns?  
Are they collecting parking fees yet?
Bob LewisSleepy Hollow NY

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Evening Report

[Long Island Birding]

Hello,
Just had two Brown Pelicans fly by on the ocean, also noteables include a
presumably continuing delayed second summer type Arctic Tern and at least 8
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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Evening Report

[Long Island Birding]

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Report.

[JOHN TURNER]

Things took a turn for the better today!

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 07:20 PM, Long Island Birding wrote:

Hello all,
To summarize there were 7 tern species seen at Nickerson Beach Today.


Sandwich Tern (found by Doug Futuyma)
Arctic Tern (found by Adelia Honeywood)
Gull-Billed Tern
Forster's Tern 
Roseate Terns
Least Terns 
Common Terns



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RE: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Report.

[JOHN TURNER]

Things took a turn for the better today!

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 07:20 PM, Long Island Birding wrote:

Hello all,
To summarize there were 7 tern species seen at Nickerson Beach Today.


Sandwich Tern (found by Doug Futuyma)
Arctic Tern (found by Adelia Honeywood)
Gull-Billed Tern
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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Report.

[Long Island Birding]

Hello all,
To summarize there were 7 tern species seen at Nickerson Beach Today.

Sandwich Tern (found by Doug Futuyma)
Arctic Tern (found by Adelia Honeywood)
Gull-Billed Tern
Forster's Tern
Roseate Terns
Least Terns
Common Terns


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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Report.

[Long Island Birding]

Hello all,
To summarize there were 7 tern species seen at Nickerson Beach Today.

Sandwich Tern (found by Doug Futuyma)
Arctic Tern (found by Adelia Honeywood)
Gull-Billed Tern
Forster's Tern
Roseate Terns
Least Terns
Common Terns


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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

[peter paul]

To add another layer to the aging confusion, while also tying into the ROST
banding conversation - here are two banded Roseate Terns I have recently
encountered at Nickerson.  I have now received reports from both of them.
They were both banded as chicks, one on Great Gull Island, one in
Connecticut, and both in 2016.  I think anyone reading this conversation
who encountered them in the field would call them adults by plumage, but by
the terms defined, they are both second summers.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/129132563@N05/27955753537/in/
dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/129132563@N05/28846030558/in/
dateposted-public/

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 5:58 AM, Joseph DiCostanzo 
wrote:

> Shai does an excellent job summarizing the complications of the terms. And
> he makes a very important point about using the term “type” since there is
> so much individual variation you cannot always reliably join plumage to
> chronological age. I would disagree with one point however. On Great Gull
> Island we trap numbers of Common Terns that are 20 years old or older. (I
> frequently tell students the bird they are handling might be older than
> they are.) Some seasons we may handle a hundred birds in this age bracket.
> It is highly unusual for them to be visually different from from other
> adults, so I would disagree with Shai’s statement that many Common Terns in
> this age bracket look like TY birds. I should note that we are trapping
> birds on nests with hatched chicks so they are generally in healthy
> breeding condition. It is certainly possible that birds in subprime
> condition may not be in full adult plumage.
>
> Joe DiCostanzo
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jun 18, 2018, at 8:01 PM, Shaibal Mitra 
> wrote:
> >
> > Tim,
> >
> > There's an error here.
> >
> > Regardless of what's true of any given bird, note the following
> equivalenciesduring June-July in NYS:
> >
> > Juvenile = HY = hatching-year
> > First-summer = SY = Second calendar year
> > Second-summer = TY = Third calendar year (but caveat: many this age look
> like adults, and some adults look like this, hence "type")
> > Adult = ATY = After Third calendar year.
> >
> > With terns:
> >
> > 1. the first-summer plumage (=SY =second calendar year) is usually
> highly stereotyped; this is the "portlandica" plumage; one year-old birds
> that differ obviously and consistently from breeding adults.
> >
> > 2. the second-summer type plumage (associated with but not identical to
> TY = third calendar year) is highly variable. Part of this arises because
> it comprises some actual TY birds (two years old; but note, many TY birds
> attain definitive adult appearance), and also a percentage of older, fully
> adult birds that are not in prime condition (very old Common Terns >20
> years old often look like this).
> >
> > Below are links to a series of second-summer type Arctic Tern
> individuals, spanning the gamut from very delayed (almost
> portlandica-looking) to nearly adult looking. The Arctic Terns that show up
> on LI are non-breeders, and they range from classic first-summers through
> all manner of second-summer types to almost adult-looking birds. But among
> the latter, they almost always show some defect from full breeding adult
> condition, and these occur all through June and early July. Thus I tend to
> suspect them as mainly seond-summer = TY = Third year = two year-olds.
> >
> > https://flic.kr/p/VVHtaZ
> > https://flic.kr/p/VhQ65U
> > https://flic.kr/p/VT2po6
> > https://flic.kr/p/VCjr6C
> > https://flic.kr/p/VPwvqd
> > https://flic.kr/p/VT2pRk
> > https://flic.kr/p/VCjq6G
> > https://flic.kr/p/VT2rrp
> > https://flic.kr/p/VT2otk
> > https://flic.kr/p/VhQ6fo
> >
> > Best,
> > Shai
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: bounce-122646499-3714...@list.cornell.edu [
> bounce-122646499-3714...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Timothy Healy [
> tp...@cornell.edu]
> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 7:28 PM
> > To: Steve Walter
> > Cc: NYSBIRDS
> > Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others
> >
> > This is where many banders and field biologists often use the
> abbreviations SY and ASY, for second year and after second year. The second
> year, a.k.a. second summer a.k.a. year old, plumages for many species are
> pretty definitive, and quite distinct from adults. In the case of COTE and
> ARTE, birds stay in a plumage that resembles their initial juvenile
> coloration for their second calendar year. The black-billed,
> white-foreheaded birds that are so abundant at the beach this season 

Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

[peter paul]

To add another layer to the aging confusion, while also tying into the ROST
banding conversation - here are two banded Roseate Terns I have recently
encountered at Nickerson.  I have now received reports from both of them.
They were both banded as chicks, one on Great Gull Island, one in
Connecticut, and both in 2016.  I think anyone reading this conversation
who encountered them in the field would call them adults by plumage, but by
the terms defined, they are both second summers.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/129132563@N05/27955753537/in/
dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/129132563@N05/28846030558/in/
dateposted-public/

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 5:58 AM, Joseph DiCostanzo 
wrote:

> Shai does an excellent job summarizing the complications of the terms. And
> he makes a very important point about using the term “type” since there is
> so much individual variation you cannot always reliably join plumage to
> chronological age. I would disagree with one point however. On Great Gull
> Island we trap numbers of Common Terns that are 20 years old or older. (I
> frequently tell students the bird they are handling might be older than
> they are.) Some seasons we may handle a hundred birds in this age bracket.
> It is highly unusual for them to be visually different from from other
> adults, so I would disagree with Shai’s statement that many Common Terns in
> this age bracket look like TY birds. I should note that we are trapping
> birds on nests with hatched chicks so they are generally in healthy
> breeding condition. It is certainly possible that birds in subprime
> condition may not be in full adult plumage.
>
> Joe DiCostanzo
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jun 18, 2018, at 8:01 PM, Shaibal Mitra 
> wrote:
> >
> > Tim,
> >
> > There's an error here.
> >
> > Regardless of what's true of any given bird, note the following
> equivalenciesduring June-July in NYS:
> >
> > Juvenile = HY = hatching-year
> > First-summer = SY = Second calendar year
> > Second-summer = TY = Third calendar year (but caveat: many this age look
> like adults, and some adults look like this, hence "type")
> > Adult = ATY = After Third calendar year.
> >
> > With terns:
> >
> > 1. the first-summer plumage (=SY =second calendar year) is usually
> highly stereotyped; this is the "portlandica" plumage; one year-old birds
> that differ obviously and consistently from breeding adults.
> >
> > 2. the second-summer type plumage (associated with but not identical to
> TY = third calendar year) is highly variable. Part of this arises because
> it comprises some actual TY birds (two years old; but note, many TY birds
> attain definitive adult appearance), and also a percentage of older, fully
> adult birds that are not in prime condition (very old Common Terns >20
> years old often look like this).
> >
> > Below are links to a series of second-summer type Arctic Tern
> individuals, spanning the gamut from very delayed (almost
> portlandica-looking) to nearly adult looking. The Arctic Terns that show up
> on LI are non-breeders, and they range from classic first-summers through
> all manner of second-summer types to almost adult-looking birds. But among
> the latter, they almost always show some defect from full breeding adult
> condition, and these occur all through June and early July. Thus I tend to
> suspect them as mainly seond-summer = TY = Third year = two year-olds.
> >
> > https://flic.kr/p/VVHtaZ
> > https://flic.kr/p/VhQ65U
> > https://flic.kr/p/VT2po6
> > https://flic.kr/p/VCjr6C
> > https://flic.kr/p/VPwvqd
> > https://flic.kr/p/VT2pRk
> > https://flic.kr/p/VCjq6G
> > https://flic.kr/p/VT2rrp
> > https://flic.kr/p/VT2otk
> > https://flic.kr/p/VhQ6fo
> >
> > Best,
> > Shai
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: bounce-122646499-3714...@list.cornell.edu [
> bounce-122646499-3714...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Timothy Healy [
> tp...@cornell.edu]
> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 7:28 PM
> > To: Steve Walter
> > Cc: NYSBIRDS
> > Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others
> >
> > This is where many banders and field biologists often use the
> abbreviations SY and ASY, for second year and after second year. The second
> year, a.k.a. second summer a.k.a. year old, plumages for many species are
> pretty definitive, and quite distinct from adults. In the case of COTE and
> ARTE, birds stay in a plumage that resembles their initial juvenile
> coloration for their second calendar year. The black-billed,
> white-foreheaded birds that are so abundant at the beach this season 

Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

[Joseph DiCostanzo]

Shai does an excellent job summarizing the complications of the terms. And he 
makes a very important point about using the term “type” since there is so much 
individual variation you cannot always reliably join plumage to chronological 
age. I would disagree with one point however. On Great Gull Island we trap 
numbers of Common Terns that are 20 years old or older. (I frequently tell 
students the bird they are handling might be older than they are.) Some seasons 
we may handle a hundred birds in this age bracket. It is highly unusual for 
them to be visually different from from other adults, so I would disagree with 
Shai’s statement that many Common Terns in this age bracket look like TY birds. 
I should note that we are trapping birds on nests with hatched chicks so they 
are generally in healthy breeding condition. It is certainly possible that 
birds in subprime condition may not be in full adult plumage.

Joe DiCostanzo

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 18, 2018, at 8:01 PM, Shaibal Mitra  wrote:
> 
> Tim,
> 
> There's an error here.
> 
> Regardless of what's true of any given bird, note the following 
> equivalenciesduring June-July in NYS:
> 
> Juvenile = HY = hatching-year
> First-summer = SY = Second calendar year
> Second-summer = TY = Third calendar year (but caveat: many this age look like 
> adults, and some adults look like this, hence "type")
> Adult = ATY = After Third calendar year.
> 
> With terns:
> 
> 1. the first-summer plumage (=SY =second calendar year) is usually highly 
> stereotyped; this is the "portlandica" plumage; one year-old birds that 
> differ obviously and consistently from breeding adults.
> 
> 2. the second-summer type plumage (associated with but not identical to TY = 
> third calendar year) is highly variable. Part of this arises because it 
> comprises some actual TY birds (two years old; but note, many TY birds attain 
> definitive adult appearance), and also a percentage of older, fully adult 
> birds that are not in prime condition (very old Common Terns >20 years old 
> often look like this).
> 
> Below are links to a series of second-summer type Arctic Tern individuals, 
> spanning the gamut from very delayed (almost portlandica-looking) to nearly 
> adult looking. The Arctic Terns that show up on LI are non-breeders, and they 
> range from classic first-summers through all manner of second-summer types to 
> almost adult-looking birds. But among the latter, they almost always show 
> some defect from full breeding adult condition, and these occur all through 
> June and early July. Thus I tend to suspect them as mainly seond-summer = TY 
> = Third year = two year-olds.
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/VVHtaZ
> https://flic.kr/p/VhQ65U
> https://flic.kr/p/VT2po6
> https://flic.kr/p/VCjr6C
> https://flic.kr/p/VPwvqd
> https://flic.kr/p/VT2pRk
> https://flic.kr/p/VCjq6G
> https://flic.kr/p/VT2rrp
> https://flic.kr/p/VT2otk
> https://flic.kr/p/VhQ6fo
> 
> Best,
> Shai
> 
> 
> 
> From: bounce-122646499-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
> [bounce-122646499-3714...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Timothy Healy 
> [tp...@cornell.edu]
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 7:28 PM
> To: Steve Walter
> Cc: NYSBIRDS
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others
> 
> This is where many banders and field biologists often use the abbreviations 
> SY and ASY, for second year and after second year. The second year, a.k.a. 
> second summer a.k.a. year old, plumages for many species are pretty 
> definitive, and quite distinct from adults. In the case of COTE and ARTE, 
> birds stay in a plumage that resembles their initial juvenile coloration for 
> their second calendar year. The black-billed, white-foreheaded birds that are 
> so abundant at the beach this season are coming up on a year old. This 
> “imperfect” adult Arctic, with only some smudges, flecks, and short streamers 
> to separate it from a classic mature bird, is probably at least two years 
> old. I certainly don’t think it was born during the last season, which is 
> what I understand makes a second summer bird. It may be in its third summer, 
> or maybe it’s older and just a little funky. I reported it on eBird as ASY, 
> because it is definitely far more progressed than the typical yearling birds 
> loafing around the inlets.
> 
> Cheers!
> -Tim H
> 
> On Jun 18, 2018, at 7:15 PM, Steve Walter 
> mailto:swalte...@verizon.net>> wrote:
> 
> Tim,
> 
> In normal conversation, I typically use the phrase “two year old” for birds 
> that I suspect were born two summers ago. But as the conversation of recent 
> days has alluded, there can be adults that for whatever reason, are not 
> complete. 

Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

[Joseph DiCostanzo]

Shai does an excellent job summarizing the complications of the terms. And he 
makes a very important point about using the term “type” since there is so much 
individual variation you cannot always reliably join plumage to chronological 
age. I would disagree with one point however. On Great Gull Island we trap 
numbers of Common Terns that are 20 years old or older. (I frequently tell 
students the bird they are handling might be older than they are.) Some seasons 
we may handle a hundred birds in this age bracket. It is highly unusual for 
them to be visually different from from other adults, so I would disagree with 
Shai’s statement that many Common Terns in this age bracket look like TY birds. 
I should note that we are trapping birds on nests with hatched chicks so they 
are generally in healthy breeding condition. It is certainly possible that 
birds in subprime condition may not be in full adult plumage.

Joe DiCostanzo

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 18, 2018, at 8:01 PM, Shaibal Mitra  wrote:
> 
> Tim,
> 
> There's an error here.
> 
> Regardless of what's true of any given bird, note the following 
> equivalenciesduring June-July in NYS:
> 
> Juvenile = HY = hatching-year
> First-summer = SY = Second calendar year
> Second-summer = TY = Third calendar year (but caveat: many this age look like 
> adults, and some adults look like this, hence "type")
> Adult = ATY = After Third calendar year.
> 
> With terns:
> 
> 1. the first-summer plumage (=SY =second calendar year) is usually highly 
> stereotyped; this is the "portlandica" plumage; one year-old birds that 
> differ obviously and consistently from breeding adults.
> 
> 2. the second-summer type plumage (associated with but not identical to TY = 
> third calendar year) is highly variable. Part of this arises because it 
> comprises some actual TY birds (two years old; but note, many TY birds attain 
> definitive adult appearance), and also a percentage of older, fully adult 
> birds that are not in prime condition (very old Common Terns >20 years old 
> often look like this).
> 
> Below are links to a series of second-summer type Arctic Tern individuals, 
> spanning the gamut from very delayed (almost portlandica-looking) to nearly 
> adult looking. The Arctic Terns that show up on LI are non-breeders, and they 
> range from classic first-summers through all manner of second-summer types to 
> almost adult-looking birds. But among the latter, they almost always show 
> some defect from full breeding adult condition, and these occur all through 
> June and early July. Thus I tend to suspect them as mainly seond-summer = TY 
> = Third year = two year-olds.
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/VVHtaZ
> https://flic.kr/p/VhQ65U
> https://flic.kr/p/VT2po6
> https://flic.kr/p/VCjr6C
> https://flic.kr/p/VPwvqd
> https://flic.kr/p/VT2pRk
> https://flic.kr/p/VCjq6G
> https://flic.kr/p/VT2rrp
> https://flic.kr/p/VT2otk
> https://flic.kr/p/VhQ6fo
> 
> Best,
> Shai
> 
> 
> 
> From: bounce-122646499-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
> [bounce-122646499-3714...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Timothy Healy 
> [tp...@cornell.edu]
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 7:28 PM
> To: Steve Walter
> Cc: NYSBIRDS
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others
> 
> This is where many banders and field biologists often use the abbreviations 
> SY and ASY, for second year and after second year. The second year, a.k.a. 
> second summer a.k.a. year old, plumages for many species are pretty 
> definitive, and quite distinct from adults. In the case of COTE and ARTE, 
> birds stay in a plumage that resembles their initial juvenile coloration for 
> their second calendar year. The black-billed, white-foreheaded birds that are 
> so abundant at the beach this season are coming up on a year old. This 
> “imperfect” adult Arctic, with only some smudges, flecks, and short streamers 
> to separate it from a classic mature bird, is probably at least two years 
> old. I certainly don’t think it was born during the last season, which is 
> what I understand makes a second summer bird. It may be in its third summer, 
> or maybe it’s older and just a little funky. I reported it on eBird as ASY, 
> because it is definitely far more progressed than the typical yearling birds 
> loafing around the inlets.
> 
> Cheers!
> -Tim H
> 
> On Jun 18, 2018, at 7:15 PM, Steve Walter 
> mailto:swalte...@verizon.net>> wrote:
> 
> Tim,
> 
> In normal conversation, I typically use the phrase “two year old” for birds 
> that I suspect were born two summers ago. But as the conversation of recent 
> days has alluded, there can be adults that for whatever reason, are not 
> complete. 

Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

[Joseph DiCostanzo]

Steve,

These color bands with the large letters have been used at Roseate Tern 
colonies for the last few years. They are known as PFRs (Plastic Field Readable 
bands). They are the latest incarnation of attempts to devise a band that is 
easily identifiable in the field. An important point to remember in recording 
these bands is that the coloring of the characters is just as important as the 
color of the band. I am guessing that the two blue bands you mention had white 
lettering. If you confirm this I will see if I can get them identified. I would 
encourage anyone seeing these bands to report them to the US Bird Banding Lab’s 
website (pwrc.usgs.gov). This will get them into the national dataset and you 
will find out where they are from. One last note: while all the reports I have 
seen recently have been of bands with a letter and two digits, there are also 
PFRs in use now with two letters and a digit. 

Joe DiCostanzo

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 18, 2018, at 6:05 PM, Steve Walter  wrote:
> 
> Another day, another Arctic Tern at Nickerson Beach. Actually, my first for 
> the year, and this one had to be waited on. It might have been too foggy in 
> the morning for it to find land (joke). Interesting bird this one. My tern 
> guru advises me to call it a “second summer type”. Basically adult looking 
> with a red bill, but with a carpal bar and speckling on the forehead (not 
> well visible in the picture I posted). In a similar vein, there was a Roseate 
> Tern of less than full adult appearance. This bird, and also a full adult, 
> had readable blue legs bands. Maybe others have seen this, but this is the 
> first time I’ve seen terns with something more readable in the field than the 
> metal bands. I’ll reports these (bands B97 and Y11) and find out more in due 
> time. But perhaps someone on this list might know something (Joe D?).  Also, 
> a Gull-billed Tern flying over the east tern colony around mid-day. Pictures 
> of the Arctic and Roseates have been added to the bottom of the Recent Work 
> page at my web site http://stevewalternature.com/ .
>  
> Steve Walter
> Bayside, NY
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

[Joseph DiCostanzo]

Steve,

These color bands with the large letters have been used at Roseate Tern 
colonies for the last few years. They are known as PFRs (Plastic Field Readable 
bands). They are the latest incarnation of attempts to devise a band that is 
easily identifiable in the field. An important point to remember in recording 
these bands is that the coloring of the characters is just as important as the 
color of the band. I am guessing that the two blue bands you mention had white 
lettering. If you confirm this I will see if I can get them identified. I would 
encourage anyone seeing these bands to report them to the US Bird Banding Lab’s 
website (pwrc.usgs.gov). This will get them into the national dataset and you 
will find out where they are from. One last note: while all the reports I have 
seen recently have been of bands with a letter and two digits, there are also 
PFRs in use now with two letters and a digit. 

Joe DiCostanzo

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 18, 2018, at 6:05 PM, Steve Walter  wrote:
> 
> Another day, another Arctic Tern at Nickerson Beach. Actually, my first for 
> the year, and this one had to be waited on. It might have been too foggy in 
> the morning for it to find land (joke). Interesting bird this one. My tern 
> guru advises me to call it a “second summer type”. Basically adult looking 
> with a red bill, but with a carpal bar and speckling on the forehead (not 
> well visible in the picture I posted). In a similar vein, there was a Roseate 
> Tern of less than full adult appearance. This bird, and also a full adult, 
> had readable blue legs bands. Maybe others have seen this, but this is the 
> first time I’ve seen terns with something more readable in the field than the 
> metal bands. I’ll reports these (bands B97 and Y11) and find out more in due 
> time. But perhaps someone on this list might know something (Joe D?).  Also, 
> a Gull-billed Tern flying over the east tern colony around mid-day. Pictures 
> of the Arctic and Roseates have been added to the bottom of the Recent Work 
> page at my web site http://stevewalternature.com/ .
>  
> Steve Walter
> Bayside, NY
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

[peter paul]

As interested as I am in the aging of these birds, I'm just gonna keep
reading the thoughts of others.  But going back to the
how-many-Arctic-Terns-are-we-seeing thread:

Tim,
My Sunday and Friday birds were different.  Look at my pictures from Friday
<https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S46569053> and Sunday <http://sunday/>.
Looking back at Tim's pictures <https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S46604935>,
I'm now wondering if on Sunday morning he had my Friday bird (or at least a
similar one), and then we found an entirely new one later after he left.
When comparing, look especially at the upper primaries (quite light on my
Friday bird, dark on my Sunday), bill color, leg color (both much deeper
red on Sunday than on Friday).

Andrew, this would kind of square with what you thought happened as
well...  Maybe the group of us saw both on Sunday morning, but we
documented the second one better...?

Anyway, thanks all for the crash course in everything ARTE.  I feel like
the past few weeks have been all ARTE all the time.

Tripper


On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 8:01 PM, Shaibal Mitra 
wrote:

> Tim,
>
> There's an error here.
>
> Regardless of what's true of any given bird, note the following
> equivalenciesduring June-July in NYS:
>
> Juvenile = HY = hatching-year
> First-summer = SY = Second calendar year
> Second-summer = TY = Third calendar year (but caveat: many this age look
> like adults, and some adults look like this, hence "type")
> Adult = ATY = After Third calendar year.
>
> With terns:
>
> 1. the first-summer plumage (=SY =second calendar year) is usually highly
> stereotyped; this is the "portlandica" plumage; one year-old birds that
> differ obviously and consistently from breeding adults.
>
> 2. the second-summer type plumage (associated with but not identical to TY
> = third calendar year) is highly variable. Part of this arises because it
> comprises some actual TY birds (two years old; but note, many TY birds
> attain definitive adult appearance), and also a percentage of older, fully
> adult birds that are not in prime condition (very old Common Terns >20
> years old often look like this).
>
> Below are links to a series of second-summer type Arctic Tern individuals,
> spanning the gamut from very delayed (almost portlandica-looking) to nearly
> adult looking. The Arctic Terns that show up on LI are non-breeders, and
> they range from classic first-summers through all manner of second-summer
> types to almost adult-looking birds. But among the latter, they almost
> always show some defect from full breeding adult condition, and these occur
> all through June and early July. Thus I tend to suspect them as mainly
> seond-summer = TY = Third year = two year-olds.
>
> https://flic.kr/p/VVHtaZ
> https://flic.kr/p/VhQ65U
> https://flic.kr/p/VT2po6
> https://flic.kr/p/VCjr6C
> https://flic.kr/p/VPwvqd
> https://flic.kr/p/VT2pRk
> https://flic.kr/p/VCjq6G
> https://flic.kr/p/VT2rrp
> https://flic.kr/p/VT2otk
> https://flic.kr/p/VhQ6fo
>
> Best,
> Shai
>
>
> 
> From: bounce-122646499-3714...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-122646499-3714944@
> list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Timothy Healy [tp...@cornell.edu]
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 7:28 PM
> To: Steve Walter
> Cc: NYSBIRDS
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others
>
> This is where many banders and field biologists often use the
> abbreviations SY and ASY, for second year and after second year. The second
> year, a.k.a. second summer a.k.a. year old, plumages for many species are
> pretty definitive, and quite distinct from adults. In the case of COTE and
> ARTE, birds stay in a plumage that resembles their initial juvenile
> coloration for their second calendar year. The black-billed,
> white-foreheaded birds that are so abundant at the beach this season are
> coming up on a year old. This “imperfect” adult Arctic, with only some
> smudges, flecks, and short streamers to separate it from a classic mature
> bird, is probably at least two years old. I certainly don’t think it was
> born during the last season, which is what I understand makes a second
> summer bird. It may be in its third summer, or maybe it’s older and just a
> little funky. I reported it on eBird as ASY, because it is definitely far
> more progressed than the typical yearling birds loafing around the inlets.
>
> Cheers!
> -Tim H
>
> On Jun 18, 2018, at 7:15 PM, Steve Walter  swalte...@verizon.net>> wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
> In normal conversation, I typically use the phrase “two year old” for
> birds that I suspect were born two summers ago. But as the conversation of
> recent days has alluded, there can be adults that for whatever rea

Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

[peter paul]

As interested as I am in the aging of these birds, I'm just gonna keep
reading the thoughts of others.  But going back to the
how-many-Arctic-Terns-are-we-seeing thread:

Tim,
My Sunday and Friday birds were different.  Look at my pictures from Friday
<https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S46569053> and Sunday <http://sunday/>.
Looking back at Tim's pictures <https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S46604935>,
I'm now wondering if on Sunday morning he had my Friday bird (or at least a
similar one), and then we found an entirely new one later after he left.
When comparing, look especially at the upper primaries (quite light on my
Friday bird, dark on my Sunday), bill color, leg color (both much deeper
red on Sunday than on Friday).

Andrew, this would kind of square with what you thought happened as
well...  Maybe the group of us saw both on Sunday morning, but we
documented the second one better...?

Anyway, thanks all for the crash course in everything ARTE.  I feel like
the past few weeks have been all ARTE all the time.

Tripper


On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 8:01 PM, Shaibal Mitra 
wrote:

> Tim,
>
> There's an error here.
>
> Regardless of what's true of any given bird, note the following
> equivalenciesduring June-July in NYS:
>
> Juvenile = HY = hatching-year
> First-summer = SY = Second calendar year
> Second-summer = TY = Third calendar year (but caveat: many this age look
> like adults, and some adults look like this, hence "type")
> Adult = ATY = After Third calendar year.
>
> With terns:
>
> 1. the first-summer plumage (=SY =second calendar year) is usually highly
> stereotyped; this is the "portlandica" plumage; one year-old birds that
> differ obviously and consistently from breeding adults.
>
> 2. the second-summer type plumage (associated with but not identical to TY
> = third calendar year) is highly variable. Part of this arises because it
> comprises some actual TY birds (two years old; but note, many TY birds
> attain definitive adult appearance), and also a percentage of older, fully
> adult birds that are not in prime condition (very old Common Terns >20
> years old often look like this).
>
> Below are links to a series of second-summer type Arctic Tern individuals,
> spanning the gamut from very delayed (almost portlandica-looking) to nearly
> adult looking. The Arctic Terns that show up on LI are non-breeders, and
> they range from classic first-summers through all manner of second-summer
> types to almost adult-looking birds. But among the latter, they almost
> always show some defect from full breeding adult condition, and these occur
> all through June and early July. Thus I tend to suspect them as mainly
> seond-summer = TY = Third year = two year-olds.
>
> https://flic.kr/p/VVHtaZ
> https://flic.kr/p/VhQ65U
> https://flic.kr/p/VT2po6
> https://flic.kr/p/VCjr6C
> https://flic.kr/p/VPwvqd
> https://flic.kr/p/VT2pRk
> https://flic.kr/p/VCjq6G
> https://flic.kr/p/VT2rrp
> https://flic.kr/p/VT2otk
> https://flic.kr/p/VhQ6fo
>
> Best,
> Shai
>
>
> 
> From: bounce-122646499-3714...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-122646499-3714944@
> list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Timothy Healy [tp...@cornell.edu]
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 7:28 PM
> To: Steve Walter
> Cc: NYSBIRDS
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others
>
> This is where many banders and field biologists often use the
> abbreviations SY and ASY, for second year and after second year. The second
> year, a.k.a. second summer a.k.a. year old, plumages for many species are
> pretty definitive, and quite distinct from adults. In the case of COTE and
> ARTE, birds stay in a plumage that resembles their initial juvenile
> coloration for their second calendar year. The black-billed,
> white-foreheaded birds that are so abundant at the beach this season are
> coming up on a year old. This “imperfect” adult Arctic, with only some
> smudges, flecks, and short streamers to separate it from a classic mature
> bird, is probably at least two years old. I certainly don’t think it was
> born during the last season, which is what I understand makes a second
> summer bird. It may be in its third summer, or maybe it’s older and just a
> little funky. I reported it on eBird as ASY, because it is definitely far
> more progressed than the typical yearling birds loafing around the inlets.
>
> Cheers!
> -Tim H
>
> On Jun 18, 2018, at 7:15 PM, Steve Walter  swalte...@verizon.net>> wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
> In normal conversation, I typically use the phrase “two year old” for
> birds that I suspect were born two summers ago. But as the conversation of
> recent days has alluded, there can be adults that for whatever rea

RE: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

[Shaibal Mitra]

Tim,

There's an error here.

Regardless of what's true of any given bird, note the following 
equivalenciesduring June-July in NYS:

Juvenile = HY = hatching-year
First-summer = SY = Second calendar year
Second-summer = TY = Third calendar year (but caveat: many this age look like 
adults, and some adults look like this, hence "type")
Adult = ATY = After Third calendar year.

With terns:

1. the first-summer plumage (=SY =second calendar year) is usually highly 
stereotyped; this is the "portlandica" plumage; one year-old birds that differ 
obviously and consistently from breeding adults.

2. the second-summer type plumage (associated with but not identical to TY = 
third calendar year) is highly variable. Part of this arises because it 
comprises some actual TY birds (two years old; but note, many TY birds attain 
definitive adult appearance), and also a percentage of older, fully adult birds 
that are not in prime condition (very old Common Terns >20 years old often look 
like this).

Below are links to a series of second-summer type Arctic Tern individuals, 
spanning the gamut from very delayed (almost portlandica-looking) to nearly 
adult looking. The Arctic Terns that show up on LI are non-breeders, and they 
range from classic first-summers through all manner of second-summer types to 
almost adult-looking birds. But among the latter, they almost always show some 
defect from full breeding adult condition, and these occur all through June and 
early July. Thus I tend to suspect them as mainly seond-summer = TY = Third 
year = two year-olds.

https://flic.kr/p/VVHtaZ
https://flic.kr/p/VhQ65U
https://flic.kr/p/VT2po6
https://flic.kr/p/VCjr6C
https://flic.kr/p/VPwvqd
https://flic.kr/p/VT2pRk
https://flic.kr/p/VCjq6G
https://flic.kr/p/VT2rrp
https://flic.kr/p/VT2otk
https://flic.kr/p/VhQ6fo

Best,
Shai



From: bounce-122646499-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
[bounce-122646499-3714...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Timothy Healy 
[tp...@cornell.edu]
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 7:28 PM
To: Steve Walter
Cc: NYSBIRDS
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

This is where many banders and field biologists often use the abbreviations SY 
and ASY, for second year and after second year. The second year, a.k.a. second 
summer a.k.a. year old, plumages for many species are pretty definitive, and 
quite distinct from adults. In the case of COTE and ARTE, birds stay in a 
plumage that resembles their initial juvenile coloration for their second 
calendar year. The black-billed, white-foreheaded birds that are so abundant at 
the beach this season are coming up on a year old. This “imperfect” adult 
Arctic, with only some smudges, flecks, and short streamers to separate it from 
a classic mature bird, is probably at least two years old. I certainly don’t 
think it was born during the last season, which is what I understand makes a 
second summer bird. It may be in its third summer, or maybe it’s older and just 
a little funky. I reported it on eBird as ASY, because it is definitely far 
more progressed than the typical yearling birds loafing around the inlets.

Cheers!
-Tim H

On Jun 18, 2018, at 7:15 PM, Steve Walter 
mailto:swalte...@verizon.net>> wrote:

Tim,

In normal conversation, I typically use the phrase “two year old” for birds 
that I suspect were born two summers ago. But as the conversation of recent 
days has alluded, there can be adults that for whatever reason, are not 
complete. And adult traits may not develop in sync in younger birds. Looking 
back at the weekend’s posts, I saw that Pat Lindsay made a point about her 
“second summer type” having a black bill. Today’s had a red bill. So a two year 
old? Probably. But definitely? Maybe, maybe not. It looks like it – so “second 
summer type” works for the public record.

Steve


From: Timothy Healy [mailto:tp...@cornell.edu]
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 6:49 PM
To: Steve Walter mailto:swalte...@verizon.net>>
Cc: NYSBIRDS mailto:nysbird...@list.cornell.edu>>
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

Steve and other sternid enthusiasts,

Isn’t second summer the term used for the immature aspect birds with white 
foreheads and black bills? A freshly fledged juvenile would be living through 
its first summer, so second summer individuals are yearlings, correct? If my 
understanding of the nomenclature is accurate, the bird I found yesterday, 
which matches Steve’s description and the photos of Tripper’s bird from Friday, 
would be in its third summer or older. At a glance it looks like a classic 
alternate plumage adult ARTE, but the faint darker smudging on the carpal bar 
and the tail streamers that don’t extend beyond the folded wingtips indicate 
that it is not fully mature. I saw a similarly marked individual at Nickerson 
last year, and in 2015 I got a photo of an adult-like ARTE with a surprisingly 
dark bill. The variation 

RE: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

[Shaibal Mitra]

Tim,

There's an error here.

Regardless of what's true of any given bird, note the following 
equivalenciesduring June-July in NYS:

Juvenile = HY = hatching-year
First-summer = SY = Second calendar year
Second-summer = TY = Third calendar year (but caveat: many this age look like 
adults, and some adults look like this, hence "type")
Adult = ATY = After Third calendar year.

With terns:

1. the first-summer plumage (=SY =second calendar year) is usually highly 
stereotyped; this is the "portlandica" plumage; one year-old birds that differ 
obviously and consistently from breeding adults.

2. the second-summer type plumage (associated with but not identical to TY = 
third calendar year) is highly variable. Part of this arises because it 
comprises some actual TY birds (two years old; but note, many TY birds attain 
definitive adult appearance), and also a percentage of older, fully adult birds 
that are not in prime condition (very old Common Terns >20 years old often look 
like this).

Below are links to a series of second-summer type Arctic Tern individuals, 
spanning the gamut from very delayed (almost portlandica-looking) to nearly 
adult looking. The Arctic Terns that show up on LI are non-breeders, and they 
range from classic first-summers through all manner of second-summer types to 
almost adult-looking birds. But among the latter, they almost always show some 
defect from full breeding adult condition, and these occur all through June and 
early July. Thus I tend to suspect them as mainly seond-summer = TY = Third 
year = two year-olds.

https://flic.kr/p/VVHtaZ
https://flic.kr/p/VhQ65U
https://flic.kr/p/VT2po6
https://flic.kr/p/VCjr6C
https://flic.kr/p/VPwvqd
https://flic.kr/p/VT2pRk
https://flic.kr/p/VCjq6G
https://flic.kr/p/VT2rrp
https://flic.kr/p/VT2otk
https://flic.kr/p/VhQ6fo

Best,
Shai



From: bounce-122646499-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
[bounce-122646499-3714...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Timothy Healy 
[tp...@cornell.edu]
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 7:28 PM
To: Steve Walter
Cc: NYSBIRDS
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

This is where many banders and field biologists often use the abbreviations SY 
and ASY, for second year and after second year. The second year, a.k.a. second 
summer a.k.a. year old, plumages for many species are pretty definitive, and 
quite distinct from adults. In the case of COTE and ARTE, birds stay in a 
plumage that resembles their initial juvenile coloration for their second 
calendar year. The black-billed, white-foreheaded birds that are so abundant at 
the beach this season are coming up on a year old. This “imperfect” adult 
Arctic, with only some smudges, flecks, and short streamers to separate it from 
a classic mature bird, is probably at least two years old. I certainly don’t 
think it was born during the last season, which is what I understand makes a 
second summer bird. It may be in its third summer, or maybe it’s older and just 
a little funky. I reported it on eBird as ASY, because it is definitely far 
more progressed than the typical yearling birds loafing around the inlets.

Cheers!
-Tim H

On Jun 18, 2018, at 7:15 PM, Steve Walter 
mailto:swalte...@verizon.net>> wrote:

Tim,

In normal conversation, I typically use the phrase “two year old” for birds 
that I suspect were born two summers ago. But as the conversation of recent 
days has alluded, there can be adults that for whatever reason, are not 
complete. And adult traits may not develop in sync in younger birds. Looking 
back at the weekend’s posts, I saw that Pat Lindsay made a point about her 
“second summer type” having a black bill. Today’s had a red bill. So a two year 
old? Probably. But definitely? Maybe, maybe not. It looks like it – so “second 
summer type” works for the public record.

Steve


From: Timothy Healy [mailto:tp...@cornell.edu]
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 6:49 PM
To: Steve Walter mailto:swalte...@verizon.net>>
Cc: NYSBIRDS mailto:nysbird...@list.cornell.edu>>
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

Steve and other sternid enthusiasts,

Isn’t second summer the term used for the immature aspect birds with white 
foreheads and black bills? A freshly fledged juvenile would be living through 
its first summer, so second summer individuals are yearlings, correct? If my 
understanding of the nomenclature is accurate, the bird I found yesterday, 
which matches Steve’s description and the photos of Tripper’s bird from Friday, 
would be in its third summer or older. At a glance it looks like a classic 
alternate plumage adult ARTE, but the faint darker smudging on the carpal bar 
and the tail streamers that don’t extend beyond the folded wingtips indicate 
that it is not fully mature. I saw a similarly marked individual at Nickerson 
last year, and in 2015 I got a photo of an adult-like ARTE with a surprisingly 
dark bill. The variation 

Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

[Timothy Healy]

Everyone patient and curious enough to follow this conversation,

Interestingly, Steve’s bird does like like a different individual from the one 
I reported yesterday morning. 
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S46604935
The white forehead speckling on Steve’s photographed bird is more prominent, 
the shakiness on the carpal bar seems more pronounced, and the tail streamers 
are longer than the wingtips. Yesterday’s bird looked more “mature” and 
classically Arctic yet its tail was only about as long the folded wings. 
Tripper’s bird from Friday, which to my knowledge was not seen on Saturday, 
also has short streamers and looks very similar to the one I documented. 
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S46569053
With the dark-billed youngster from Saturday taken into account, we have quite 
a few individual Arctic Terns coming and going from this site alone. That’s to 
say nothing of all the other reports up and down the Island in the past few 
weeks. I’m personally fascinated by all of this, it seems like we agree always 
learning more about the transient terns here. I wasn’t planning on plugging 
myself when I jumped in on this conversation, but I did publish a piece about 
all of this today. 
http://nemesisbird.com/birding/tern-it-up/
Keep on getting out there and scouring the tern flocks, everyone. Methinks 
we’re due for another whopper of a surprise. 

Cheers!
-Tim H

> On Jun 18, 2018, at 7:40 PM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> I would be in the ASY camp on this bird as well. Fascinating bird and 
> excellent photo from Steve. 
> 
> Yesterday at Nickerson a group of us had an entirely different bird and I 
> thought I had a second bird that looked like this one but could never connect 
> with it after my initial observation.
> 
> Good to see more folks documenting the Arctic Terns as we will find there are 
> more of them moving through now that we have more eyes sifting through the 
> flock.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule 
> of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ 
> Frederick Douglass
> 
> 風　Swift as the wind
> 林　Quiet as the forest
> 火　Conquer like the fire
> 山　Steady as the mountain
> Sun Tzu  The Art of War
> 
>> (\__/)
>> (= '.'=)
>> (") _ (") 
>> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 
> 
> Andrew Baksh
> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
> 
>> On Jun 18, 2018, at 7:28 PM, Timothy Healy  wrote:
>> 
>> This is where many banders and field biologists often use the abbreviations 
>> SY and ASY, for second year and after second year. The second year, a.k.a. 
>> second summer a.k.a. year old, plumages for many species are pretty 
>> definitive, and quite distinct from adults. In the case of COTE and ARTE, 
>> birds stay in a plumage that resembles their initial juvenile coloration for 
>> their second calendar year. The black-billed, white-foreheaded birds that 
>> are so abundant at the beach this season are coming up on a year old. This 
>> “imperfect” adult Arctic, with only some smudges, flecks, and short 
>> streamers to separate it from a classic mature bird, is probably at least 
>> two years old. I certainly don’t think it was born during the last season, 
>> which is what I understand makes a second summer bird. It may be in its 
>> third summer, or maybe it’s older and just a little funky. I reported it on 
>> eBird as ASY, because it is definitely far more progressed than the typical 
>> yearling birds loafing around the inlets. 
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> -Tim H
>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2018, at 7:15 PM, Steve Walter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Tim,
>>>  
>>> In normal conversation, I typically use the phrase “two year old” for birds 
>>> that I suspect were born two summers ago. But as the conversation of recent 
>>> days has alluded, there can be adults that for whatever reason, are not 
>>> complete. And adult traits may not develop in sync in younger birds. 
>>> Looking back at the weekend’s posts, I saw that Pat Lindsay made a point 
>>> about her “second summer type” having a black bill. Today’s had a red bill. 
>>> So a two year old? Probably. But definitely? Maybe, maybe not. It looks 
>>> like it – so “second summer type” works for the public record.
>>>  
>>> Steve
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: Timothy Healy [mailto:tp...@cornell.edu] 
>>> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 6:49 PM
>>> To: Steve Walter 
>>> Cc: NYSBIRDS 
>>> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arct

Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

[Timothy Healy]

Everyone patient and curious enough to follow this conversation,

Interestingly, Steve’s bird does like like a different individual from the one 
I reported yesterday morning. 
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S46604935
The white forehead speckling on Steve’s photographed bird is more prominent, 
the shakiness on the carpal bar seems more pronounced, and the tail streamers 
are longer than the wingtips. Yesterday’s bird looked more “mature” and 
classically Arctic yet its tail was only about as long the folded wings. 
Tripper’s bird from Friday, which to my knowledge was not seen on Saturday, 
also has short streamers and looks very similar to the one I documented. 
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S46569053
With the dark-billed youngster from Saturday taken into account, we have quite 
a few individual Arctic Terns coming and going from this site alone. That’s to 
say nothing of all the other reports up and down the Island in the past few 
weeks. I’m personally fascinated by all of this, it seems like we agree always 
learning more about the transient terns here. I wasn’t planning on plugging 
myself when I jumped in on this conversation, but I did publish a piece about 
all of this today. 
http://nemesisbird.com/birding/tern-it-up/
Keep on getting out there and scouring the tern flocks, everyone. Methinks 
we’re due for another whopper of a surprise. 

Cheers!
-Tim H

> On Jun 18, 2018, at 7:40 PM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> I would be in the ASY camp on this bird as well. Fascinating bird and 
> excellent photo from Steve. 
> 
> Yesterday at Nickerson a group of us had an entirely different bird and I 
> thought I had a second bird that looked like this one but could never connect 
> with it after my initial observation.
> 
> Good to see more folks documenting the Arctic Terns as we will find there are 
> more of them moving through now that we have more eyes sifting through the 
> flock.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule 
> of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ 
> Frederick Douglass
> 
> 風　Swift as the wind
> 林　Quiet as the forest
> 火　Conquer like the fire
> 山　Steady as the mountain
> Sun Tzu  The Art of War
> 
>> (\__/)
>> (= '.'=)
>> (") _ (") 
>> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 
> 
> Andrew Baksh
> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
> 
>> On Jun 18, 2018, at 7:28 PM, Timothy Healy  wrote:
>> 
>> This is where many banders and field biologists often use the abbreviations 
>> SY and ASY, for second year and after second year. The second year, a.k.a. 
>> second summer a.k.a. year old, plumages for many species are pretty 
>> definitive, and quite distinct from adults. In the case of COTE and ARTE, 
>> birds stay in a plumage that resembles their initial juvenile coloration for 
>> their second calendar year. The black-billed, white-foreheaded birds that 
>> are so abundant at the beach this season are coming up on a year old. This 
>> “imperfect” adult Arctic, with only some smudges, flecks, and short 
>> streamers to separate it from a classic mature bird, is probably at least 
>> two years old. I certainly don’t think it was born during the last season, 
>> which is what I understand makes a second summer bird. It may be in its 
>> third summer, or maybe it’s older and just a little funky. I reported it on 
>> eBird as ASY, because it is definitely far more progressed than the typical 
>> yearling birds loafing around the inlets. 
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> -Tim H
>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2018, at 7:15 PM, Steve Walter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Tim,
>>>  
>>> In normal conversation, I typically use the phrase “two year old” for birds 
>>> that I suspect were born two summers ago. But as the conversation of recent 
>>> days has alluded, there can be adults that for whatever reason, are not 
>>> complete. And adult traits may not develop in sync in younger birds. 
>>> Looking back at the weekend’s posts, I saw that Pat Lindsay made a point 
>>> about her “second summer type” having a black bill. Today’s had a red bill. 
>>> So a two year old? Probably. But definitely? Maybe, maybe not. It looks 
>>> like it – so “second summer type” works for the public record.
>>>  
>>> Steve
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: Timothy Healy [mailto:tp...@cornell.edu] 
>>> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 6:49 PM
>>> To: Steve Walter 
>>> Cc: NYSBIRDS 
>>> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arct

Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

[Andrew Baksh]

Hi Tim,

I would be in the ASY camp on this bird as well. Fascinating bird and excellent 
photo from Steve. 

Yesterday at Nickerson a group of us had an entirely different bird and I 
thought I had a second bird that looked like this one but could never connect 
with it after my initial observation.

Good to see more folks documenting the Arctic Terns as we will find there are 
more of them moving through now that we have more eyes sifting through the 
flock.

Cheers,


"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of War

> (\__/)
> (= '.'=)
> (") _ (") 
> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 

Andrew Baksh
www.birdingdude.blogspot.com

> On Jun 18, 2018, at 7:28 PM, Timothy Healy  wrote:
> 
> This is where many banders and field biologists often use the abbreviations 
> SY and ASY, for second year and after second year. The second year, a.k.a. 
> second summer a.k.a. year old, plumages for many species are pretty 
> definitive, and quite distinct from adults. In the case of COTE and ARTE, 
> birds stay in a plumage that resembles their initial juvenile coloration for 
> their second calendar year. The black-billed, white-foreheaded birds that are 
> so abundant at the beach this season are coming up on a year old. This 
> “imperfect” adult Arctic, with only some smudges, flecks, and short streamers 
> to separate it from a classic mature bird, is probably at least two years 
> old. I certainly don’t think it was born during the last season, which is 
> what I understand makes a second summer bird. It may be in its third summer, 
> or maybe it’s older and just a little funky. I reported it on eBird as ASY, 
> because it is definitely far more progressed than the typical yearling birds 
> loafing around the inlets. 
> 
> Cheers!
> -Tim H
> 
>> On Jun 18, 2018, at 7:15 PM, Steve Walter  wrote:
>> 
>> Tim,
>>  
>> In normal conversation, I typically use the phrase “two year old” for birds 
>> that I suspect were born two summers ago. But as the conversation of recent 
>> days has alluded, there can be adults that for whatever reason, are not 
>> complete. And adult traits may not develop in sync in younger birds. Looking 
>> back at the weekend’s posts, I saw that Pat Lindsay made a point about her 
>> “second summer type” having a black bill. Today’s had a red bill. So a two 
>> year old? Probably. But definitely? Maybe, maybe not. It looks like it – so 
>> “second summer type” works for the public record.
>>  
>> Steve
>>  
>>  
>> From: Timothy Healy [mailto:tp...@cornell.edu] 
>> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 6:49 PM
>> To: Steve Walter 
>> Cc: NYSBIRDS 
>> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others
>>  
>> Steve and other sternid enthusiasts,
>>  
>> Isn’t second summer the term used for the immature aspect birds with white 
>> foreheads and black bills? A freshly fledged juvenile would be living 
>> through its first summer, so second summer individuals are yearlings, 
>> correct? If my understanding of the nomenclature is accurate, the bird I 
>> found yesterday, which matches Steve’s description and the photos of 
>> Tripper’s bird from Friday, would be in its third summer or older. At a 
>> glance it looks like a classic alternate plumage adult ARTE, but the faint 
>> darker smudging on the carpal bar and the tail streamers that don’t extend 
>> beyond the folded wingtips indicate that it is not fully mature. I saw a 
>> similarly marked individual at Nickerson last year, and in 2015 I got a 
>> photo of an adult-like ARTE with a surprisingly dark bill. The variation in 
>> age classes and species of terns is so fascinating. I’ve learned a lot from 
>> these discussions about Arctics, Roseates, and the mysterious dark Commons. 
>> Mornings and afternoons at the colonies and inlets are one of my favorite 
>> parts of early summer here on Long Island. 
>>  
>> Cheers!
>> -Tim H
>> 
>> On Jun 18, 2018, at 6:05 PM, Steve Walter  wrote:
>> 
>> Another day, another Arctic Tern at Nickerson Beach. Actually, my first for 
>> the year, and this one had to be waited on. It might have been too foggy in 
>> the morning for it to find land (joke). Interesting bird this one. My tern 
>> guru advises me to call it a “second summer type”. Basically adult looking 
>> wit

Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

[Andrew Baksh]

Hi Tim,

I would be in the ASY camp on this bird as well. Fascinating bird and excellent 
photo from Steve. 

Yesterday at Nickerson a group of us had an entirely different bird and I 
thought I had a second bird that looked like this one but could never connect 
with it after my initial observation.

Good to see more folks documenting the Arctic Terns as we will find there are 
more of them moving through now that we have more eyes sifting through the 
flock.

Cheers,


"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of War

> (\__/)
> (= '.'=)
> (") _ (") 
> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 

Andrew Baksh
www.birdingdude.blogspot.com

> On Jun 18, 2018, at 7:28 PM, Timothy Healy  wrote:
> 
> This is where many banders and field biologists often use the abbreviations 
> SY and ASY, for second year and after second year. The second year, a.k.a. 
> second summer a.k.a. year old, plumages for many species are pretty 
> definitive, and quite distinct from adults. In the case of COTE and ARTE, 
> birds stay in a plumage that resembles their initial juvenile coloration for 
> their second calendar year. The black-billed, white-foreheaded birds that are 
> so abundant at the beach this season are coming up on a year old. This 
> “imperfect” adult Arctic, with only some smudges, flecks, and short streamers 
> to separate it from a classic mature bird, is probably at least two years 
> old. I certainly don’t think it was born during the last season, which is 
> what I understand makes a second summer bird. It may be in its third summer, 
> or maybe it’s older and just a little funky. I reported it on eBird as ASY, 
> because it is definitely far more progressed than the typical yearling birds 
> loafing around the inlets. 
> 
> Cheers!
> -Tim H
> 
>> On Jun 18, 2018, at 7:15 PM, Steve Walter  wrote:
>> 
>> Tim,
>>  
>> In normal conversation, I typically use the phrase “two year old” for birds 
>> that I suspect were born two summers ago. But as the conversation of recent 
>> days has alluded, there can be adults that for whatever reason, are not 
>> complete. And adult traits may not develop in sync in younger birds. Looking 
>> back at the weekend’s posts, I saw that Pat Lindsay made a point about her 
>> “second summer type” having a black bill. Today’s had a red bill. So a two 
>> year old? Probably. But definitely? Maybe, maybe not. It looks like it – so 
>> “second summer type” works for the public record.
>>  
>> Steve
>>  
>>  
>> From: Timothy Healy [mailto:tp...@cornell.edu] 
>> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 6:49 PM
>> To: Steve Walter 
>> Cc: NYSBIRDS 
>> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others
>>  
>> Steve and other sternid enthusiasts,
>>  
>> Isn’t second summer the term used for the immature aspect birds with white 
>> foreheads and black bills? A freshly fledged juvenile would be living 
>> through its first summer, so second summer individuals are yearlings, 
>> correct? If my understanding of the nomenclature is accurate, the bird I 
>> found yesterday, which matches Steve’s description and the photos of 
>> Tripper’s bird from Friday, would be in its third summer or older. At a 
>> glance it looks like a classic alternate plumage adult ARTE, but the faint 
>> darker smudging on the carpal bar and the tail streamers that don’t extend 
>> beyond the folded wingtips indicate that it is not fully mature. I saw a 
>> similarly marked individual at Nickerson last year, and in 2015 I got a 
>> photo of an adult-like ARTE with a surprisingly dark bill. The variation in 
>> age classes and species of terns is so fascinating. I’ve learned a lot from 
>> these discussions about Arctics, Roseates, and the mysterious dark Commons. 
>> Mornings and afternoons at the colonies and inlets are one of my favorite 
>> parts of early summer here on Long Island. 
>>  
>> Cheers!
>> -Tim H
>> 
>> On Jun 18, 2018, at 6:05 PM, Steve Walter  wrote:
>> 
>> Another day, another Arctic Tern at Nickerson Beach. Actually, my first for 
>> the year, and this one had to be waited on. It might have been too foggy in 
>> the morning for it to find land (joke). Interesting bird this one. My tern 
>> guru advises me to call it a “second summer type”. Basically adult looking 
>> wit

Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

[Pat Aitken]

Thank you all, again, for this excellent discussion, and for generous
sharing of your knowledge!

On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:29 PM Timothy Healy  wrote:

> This is where many banders and field biologists often use the
> abbreviations SY and ASY, for second year and after second year. The second
> year, a.k.a. second summer a.k.a. year old, plumages for many species are
> pretty definitive, and quite distinct from adults. In the case of COTE and
> ARTE, birds stay in a plumage that resembles their initial juvenile
> coloration for their second calendar year. The black-billed,
> white-foreheaded birds that are so abundant at the beach this season are
> coming up on a year old. This “imperfect” adult Arctic, with only some
> smudges, flecks, and short streamers to separate it from a classic mature
> bird, is probably at least two years old. I certainly don’t think it was
> born during the last season, which is what I understand makes a second
> summer bird. It may be in its third summer, or maybe it’s older and just a
> little funky. I reported it on eBird as ASY, because it is definitely far
> more progressed than the typical yearling birds loafing around the inlets.
>
> Cheers!
> -Tim H
>
>
> On Jun 18, 2018, at 7:15 PM, Steve Walter  wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
>
>
> In normal conversation, I typically use the phrase “two year old” for
> birds that I suspect were born two summers ago. But as the conversation of
> recent days has alluded, there can be adults that for whatever reason, are
> not complete. And adult traits may not develop in sync in younger birds.
> Looking back at the weekend’s posts, I saw that Pat Lindsay made a point
> about her “second summer type” having a black bill. Today’s had a red bill.
> So a two year old? Probably. But definitely? Maybe, maybe not. It looks
> like it – so “second summer type” works for the public record.
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Timothy Healy [mailto:tp...@cornell.edu ]
> *Sent:* Monday, June 18, 2018 6:49 PM
> *To:* Steve Walter 
> *Cc:* NYSBIRDS 
> *Subject:* Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others
>
>
>
> Steve and other sternid enthusiasts,
>
>
>
> Isn’t second summer the term used for the immature aspect birds with white
> foreheads and black bills? A freshly fledged juvenile would be living
> through its first summer, so second summer individuals are yearlings,
> correct? If my understanding of the nomenclature is accurate, the bird I
> found yesterday, which matches Steve’s description and the photos of
> Tripper’s bird from Friday, would be in its third summer or older. At a
> glance it looks like a classic alternate plumage adult ARTE, but the faint
> darker smudging on the carpal bar and the tail streamers that don’t extend
> beyond the folded wingtips indicate that it is not fully mature. I saw a
> similarly marked individual at Nickerson last year, and in 2015 I got a
> photo of an adult-like ARTE with a surprisingly dark bill. The variation in
> age classes and species of terns is so fascinating. I’ve learned a lot from
> these discussions about Arctics, Roseates, and the mysterious dark Commons.
> Mornings and afternoons at the colonies and inlets are one of my favorite
> parts of early summer here on Long Island.
>
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> -Tim H
>
>
> On Jun 18, 2018, at 6:05 PM, Steve Walter  wrote:
>
> Another day, another *Arctic Tern* at Nickerson Beach. Actually, my first
> for the year, and this one had to be waited on. It might have been too
> foggy in the morning for it to find land (joke). Interesting bird this one.
> My tern guru advises me to call it a “second summer type”. Basically adult
> looking with a red bill, but with a carpal bar and speckling on the
> forehead (not well visible in the picture I posted). In a similar vein,
> there was a Roseate Tern of less than full adult appearance. This bird, and
> also a full adult, had readable blue legs bands. Maybe others have seen
> this, but this is the first time I’ve seen terns with something more
> readable in the field than the metal bands. I’ll reports these (bands B97
> and Y11) and find out more in due time. But perhaps someone on this list
> might know something (Joe D?).  Also, *a Gull-billed Tern* flying over
> the east tern colony around mid-day. Pictures of the Arctic and Roseates
> have been added to the bottom of the Recent Work page at my web site
> http://stevewalternature.com/ .
>
>
>
> Steve Walter
>
> Bayside, NY
>
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

[Pat Aitken]

Thank you all, again, for this excellent discussion, and for generous
sharing of your knowledge!

On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:29 PM Timothy Healy  wrote:

> This is where many banders and field biologists often use the
> abbreviations SY and ASY, for second year and after second year. The second
> year, a.k.a. second summer a.k.a. year old, plumages for many species are
> pretty definitive, and quite distinct from adults. In the case of COTE and
> ARTE, birds stay in a plumage that resembles their initial juvenile
> coloration for their second calendar year. The black-billed,
> white-foreheaded birds that are so abundant at the beach this season are
> coming up on a year old. This “imperfect” adult Arctic, with only some
> smudges, flecks, and short streamers to separate it from a classic mature
> bird, is probably at least two years old. I certainly don’t think it was
> born during the last season, which is what I understand makes a second
> summer bird. It may be in its third summer, or maybe it’s older and just a
> little funky. I reported it on eBird as ASY, because it is definitely far
> more progressed than the typical yearling birds loafing around the inlets.
>
> Cheers!
> -Tim H
>
>
> On Jun 18, 2018, at 7:15 PM, Steve Walter  wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
>
>
> In normal conversation, I typically use the phrase “two year old” for
> birds that I suspect were born two summers ago. But as the conversation of
> recent days has alluded, there can be adults that for whatever reason, are
> not complete. And adult traits may not develop in sync in younger birds.
> Looking back at the weekend’s posts, I saw that Pat Lindsay made a point
> about her “second summer type” having a black bill. Today’s had a red bill.
> So a two year old? Probably. But definitely? Maybe, maybe not. It looks
> like it – so “second summer type” works for the public record.
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Timothy Healy [mailto:tp...@cornell.edu ]
> *Sent:* Monday, June 18, 2018 6:49 PM
> *To:* Steve Walter 
> *Cc:* NYSBIRDS 
> *Subject:* Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others
>
>
>
> Steve and other sternid enthusiasts,
>
>
>
> Isn’t second summer the term used for the immature aspect birds with white
> foreheads and black bills? A freshly fledged juvenile would be living
> through its first summer, so second summer individuals are yearlings,
> correct? If my understanding of the nomenclature is accurate, the bird I
> found yesterday, which matches Steve’s description and the photos of
> Tripper’s bird from Friday, would be in its third summer or older. At a
> glance it looks like a classic alternate plumage adult ARTE, but the faint
> darker smudging on the carpal bar and the tail streamers that don’t extend
> beyond the folded wingtips indicate that it is not fully mature. I saw a
> similarly marked individual at Nickerson last year, and in 2015 I got a
> photo of an adult-like ARTE with a surprisingly dark bill. The variation in
> age classes and species of terns is so fascinating. I’ve learned a lot from
> these discussions about Arctics, Roseates, and the mysterious dark Commons.
> Mornings and afternoons at the colonies and inlets are one of my favorite
> parts of early summer here on Long Island.
>
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> -Tim H
>
>
> On Jun 18, 2018, at 6:05 PM, Steve Walter  wrote:
>
> Another day, another *Arctic Tern* at Nickerson Beach. Actually, my first
> for the year, and this one had to be waited on. It might have been too
> foggy in the morning for it to find land (joke). Interesting bird this one.
> My tern guru advises me to call it a “second summer type”. Basically adult
> looking with a red bill, but with a carpal bar and speckling on the
> forehead (not well visible in the picture I posted). In a similar vein,
> there was a Roseate Tern of less than full adult appearance. This bird, and
> also a full adult, had readable blue legs bands. Maybe others have seen
> this, but this is the first time I’ve seen terns with something more
> readable in the field than the metal bands. I’ll reports these (bands B97
> and Y11) and find out more in due time. But perhaps someone on this list
> might know something (Joe D?).  Also, *a Gull-billed Tern* flying over
> the east tern colony around mid-day. Pictures of the Arctic and Roseates
> have been added to the bottom of the Recent Work page at my web site
> http://stevewalternature.com/ .
>
>
>
> Steve Walter
>
> Bayside, NY
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

[Timothy Healy]

This is where many banders and field biologists often use the abbreviations SY 
and ASY, for second year and after second year. The second year, a.k.a. second 
summer a.k.a. year old, plumages for many species are pretty definitive, and 
quite distinct from adults. In the case of COTE and ARTE, birds stay in a 
plumage that resembles their initial juvenile coloration for their second 
calendar year. The black-billed, white-foreheaded birds that are so abundant at 
the beach this season are coming up on a year old. This “imperfect” adult 
Arctic, with only some smudges, flecks, and short streamers to separate it from 
a classic mature bird, is probably at least two years old. I certainly don’t 
think it was born during the last season, which is what I understand makes a 
second summer bird. It may be in its third summer, or maybe it’s older and just 
a little funky. I reported it on eBird as ASY, because it is definitely far 
more progressed than the typical yearling birds loafing around the inlets. 

Cheers!
-Tim H

> On Jun 18, 2018, at 7:15 PM, Steve Walter  wrote:
> 
> Tim,
>  
> In normal conversation, I typically use the phrase “two year old” for birds 
> that I suspect were born two summers ago. But as the conversation of recent 
> days has alluded, there can be adults that for whatever reason, are not 
> complete. And adult traits may not develop in sync in younger birds. Looking 
> back at the weekend’s posts, I saw that Pat Lindsay made a point about her 
> “second summer type” having a black bill. Today’s had a red bill. So a two 
> year old? Probably. But definitely? Maybe, maybe not. It looks like it – so 
> “second summer type” works for the public record.
>  
> Steve
>  
>  
> From: Timothy Healy [mailto:tp...@cornell.edu] 
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 6:49 PM
> To: Steve Walter 
> Cc: NYSBIRDS 
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others
>  
> Steve and other sternid enthusiasts,
>  
> Isn’t second summer the term used for the immature aspect birds with white 
> foreheads and black bills? A freshly fledged juvenile would be living through 
> its first summer, so second summer individuals are yearlings, correct? If my 
> understanding of the nomenclature is accurate, the bird I found yesterday, 
> which matches Steve’s description and the photos of Tripper’s bird from 
> Friday, would be in its third summer or older. At a glance it looks like a 
> classic alternate plumage adult ARTE, but the faint darker smudging on the 
> carpal bar and the tail streamers that don’t extend beyond the folded 
> wingtips indicate that it is not fully mature. I saw a similarly marked 
> individual at Nickerson last year, and in 2015 I got a photo of an adult-like 
> ARTE with a surprisingly dark bill. The variation in age classes and species 
> of terns is so fascinating. I’ve learned a lot from these discussions about 
> Arctics, Roseates, and the mysterious dark Commons. Mornings and afternoons 
> at the colonies and inlets are one of my favorite parts of early summer here 
> on Long Island. 
>  
> Cheers!
> -Tim H
> 
> On Jun 18, 2018, at 6:05 PM, Steve Walter  wrote:
> 
> Another day, another Arctic Tern at Nickerson Beach. Actually, my first for 
> the year, and this one had to be waited on. It might have been too foggy in 
> the morning for it to find land (joke). Interesting bird this one. My tern 
> guru advises me to call it a “second summer type”. Basically adult looking 
> with a red bill, but with a carpal bar and speckling on the forehead (not 
> well visible in the picture I posted). In a similar vein, there was a Roseate 
> Tern of less than full adult appearance. This bird, and also a full adult, 
> had readable blue legs bands. Maybe others have seen this, but this is the 
> first time I’ve seen terns with something more readable in the field than the 
> metal bands. I’ll reports these (bands B97 and Y11) and find out more in due 
> time. But perhaps someone on this list might know something (Joe D?).  Also, 
> a Gull-billed Tern flying over the east tern colony around mid-day. Pictures 
> of the Arctic and Roseates have been added to the bottom of the Recent Work 
> page at my web site http://stevewalternature.com/ .
>  
> Steve Walter
> Bayside, NY
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

[Timothy Healy]

This is where many banders and field biologists often use the abbreviations SY 
and ASY, for second year and after second year. The second year, a.k.a. second 
summer a.k.a. year old, plumages for many species are pretty definitive, and 
quite distinct from adults. In the case of COTE and ARTE, birds stay in a 
plumage that resembles their initial juvenile coloration for their second 
calendar year. The black-billed, white-foreheaded birds that are so abundant at 
the beach this season are coming up on a year old. This “imperfect” adult 
Arctic, with only some smudges, flecks, and short streamers to separate it from 
a classic mature bird, is probably at least two years old. I certainly don’t 
think it was born during the last season, which is what I understand makes a 
second summer bird. It may be in its third summer, or maybe it’s older and just 
a little funky. I reported it on eBird as ASY, because it is definitely far 
more progressed than the typical yearling birds loafing around the inlets. 

Cheers!
-Tim H

> On Jun 18, 2018, at 7:15 PM, Steve Walter  wrote:
> 
> Tim,
>  
> In normal conversation, I typically use the phrase “two year old” for birds 
> that I suspect were born two summers ago. But as the conversation of recent 
> days has alluded, there can be adults that for whatever reason, are not 
> complete. And adult traits may not develop in sync in younger birds. Looking 
> back at the weekend’s posts, I saw that Pat Lindsay made a point about her 
> “second summer type” having a black bill. Today’s had a red bill. So a two 
> year old? Probably. But definitely? Maybe, maybe not. It looks like it – so 
> “second summer type” works for the public record.
>  
> Steve
>  
>  
> From: Timothy Healy [mailto:tp...@cornell.edu] 
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 6:49 PM
> To: Steve Walter 
> Cc: NYSBIRDS 
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others
>  
> Steve and other sternid enthusiasts,
>  
> Isn’t second summer the term used for the immature aspect birds with white 
> foreheads and black bills? A freshly fledged juvenile would be living through 
> its first summer, so second summer individuals are yearlings, correct? If my 
> understanding of the nomenclature is accurate, the bird I found yesterday, 
> which matches Steve’s description and the photos of Tripper’s bird from 
> Friday, would be in its third summer or older. At a glance it looks like a 
> classic alternate plumage adult ARTE, but the faint darker smudging on the 
> carpal bar and the tail streamers that don’t extend beyond the folded 
> wingtips indicate that it is not fully mature. I saw a similarly marked 
> individual at Nickerson last year, and in 2015 I got a photo of an adult-like 
> ARTE with a surprisingly dark bill. The variation in age classes and species 
> of terns is so fascinating. I’ve learned a lot from these discussions about 
> Arctics, Roseates, and the mysterious dark Commons. Mornings and afternoons 
> at the colonies and inlets are one of my favorite parts of early summer here 
> on Long Island. 
>  
> Cheers!
> -Tim H
> 
> On Jun 18, 2018, at 6:05 PM, Steve Walter  wrote:
> 
> Another day, another Arctic Tern at Nickerson Beach. Actually, my first for 
> the year, and this one had to be waited on. It might have been too foggy in 
> the morning for it to find land (joke). Interesting bird this one. My tern 
> guru advises me to call it a “second summer type”. Basically adult looking 
> with a red bill, but with a carpal bar and speckling on the forehead (not 
> well visible in the picture I posted). In a similar vein, there was a Roseate 
> Tern of less than full adult appearance. This bird, and also a full adult, 
> had readable blue legs bands. Maybe others have seen this, but this is the 
> first time I’ve seen terns with something more readable in the field than the 
> metal bands. I’ll reports these (bands B97 and Y11) and find out more in due 
> time. But perhaps someone on this list might know something (Joe D?).  Also, 
> a Gull-billed Tern flying over the east tern colony around mid-day. Pictures 
> of the Arctic and Roseates have been added to the bottom of the Recent Work 
> page at my web site http://stevewalternature.com/ .
>  
> Steve Walter
> Bayside, NY
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

[Shaibal Mitra]

Hi Tim and all,

There are a number of parallel systems for denoting age. The worst for birders 
is the plumage cycle system, because at this time of year a flock of 30 manky 
looking Lesser Black-backed Gulls of exactly the same age 350-370 days since 
hatching might include both first and second cycle individuals, and it's 
obviously absurd to lump the former with fresh juvs and the latter with two 
year-olds in summaries of age break-downs.

My preferred system for terns is the standard one used by Grant, Malling Olsen, 
and others:
Juvenile the newly hatched COTE juvs are the cutest of all birds
First-summer one-year-old birds with black bills, white foreheads, white 
underparts, short tails, etc.
Second-summer types a category including some (but not all) actual two 
year-olds and a fraction of older adults failing to attain full breeding 
condition. The appearance of birds in this category is highly variable because 
it includes some very delayed two year-olds as well as some birds that barely 
differ from normal adults.
Adult

Calendar year notation works well too in the temperate zone:
HY
SY 
TY type
Adult

Best,
Shai

From: bounce-122646468-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
[bounce-122646468-3714...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Timothy Healy 
[tp...@cornell.edu]
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 6:48 PM
To: Steve Walter
Cc: NYSBIRDS
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

Steve and other sternid enthusiasts,

Isn’t second summer the term used for the immature aspect birds with white 
foreheads and black bills? A freshly fledged juvenile would be living through 
its first summer, so second summer individuals are yearlings, correct? If my 
understanding of the nomenclature is accurate, the bird I found yesterday, 
which matches Steve’s description and the photos of Tripper’s bird from Friday, 
would be in its third summer or older. At a glance it looks like a classic 
alternate plumage adult ARTE, but the faint darker smudging on the carpal bar 
and the tail streamers that don’t extend beyond the folded wingtips indicate 
that it is not fully mature. I saw a similarly marked individual at Nickerson 
last year, and in 2015 I got a photo of an adult-like ARTE with a surprisingly 
dark bill. The variation in age classes and species of terns is so fascinating. 
I’ve learned a lot from these discussions about Arctics, Roseates, and the 
mysterious dark Commons. Mornings and afternoons at the colonies and inlets are 
one of my favorite parts of early summer here on Long Island.

Cheers!
-Tim H

On Jun 18, 2018, at 6:05 PM, Steve Walter 
mailto:swalte...@verizon.net>> wrote:

Another day, another Arctic Tern at Nickerson Beach. Actually, my first for the 
year, and this one had to be waited on. It might have been too foggy in the 
morning for it to find land (joke). Interesting bird this one. My tern guru 
advises me to call it a “second summer type”. Basically adult looking with a 
red bill, but with a carpal bar and speckling on the forehead (not well visible 
in the picture I posted). In a similar vein, there was a Roseate Tern of less 
than full adult appearance. This bird, and also a full adult, had readable blue 
legs bands. Maybe others have seen this, but this is the first time I’ve seen 
terns with something more readable in the field than the metal bands. I’ll 
reports these (bands B97 and Y11) and find out more in due time. But perhaps 
someone on this list might know something (Joe D?).  Also, a Gull-billed Tern 
flying over the east tern colony around mid-day. Pictures of the Arctic and 
Roseates have been added to the bottom of the Recent Work page at my web site 
http://stevewalternature.com/ .

Steve Walter
Bayside, NY
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

[Shaibal Mitra]

Hi Tim and all,

There are a number of parallel systems for denoting age. The worst for birders 
is the plumage cycle system, because at this time of year a flock of 30 manky 
looking Lesser Black-backed Gulls of exactly the same age 350-370 days since 
hatching might include both first and second cycle individuals, and it's 
obviously absurd to lump the former with fresh juvs and the latter with two 
year-olds in summaries of age break-downs.

My preferred system for terns is the standard one used by Grant, Malling Olsen, 
and others:
Juvenile the newly hatched COTE juvs are the cutest of all birds
First-summer one-year-old birds with black bills, white foreheads, white 
underparts, short tails, etc.
Second-summer types a category including some (but not all) actual two 
year-olds and a fraction of older adults failing to attain full breeding 
condition. The appearance of birds in this category is highly variable because 
it includes some very delayed two year-olds as well as some birds that barely 
differ from normal adults.
Adult

Calendar year notation works well too in the temperate zone:
HY
SY 
TY type
Adult

Best,
Shai

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Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

Steve and other sternid enthusiasts,

Isn’t second summer the term used for the immature aspect birds with white 
foreheads and black bills? A freshly fledged juvenile would be living through 
its first summer, so second summer individuals are yearlings, correct? If my 
understanding of the nomenclature is accurate, the bird I found yesterday, 
which matches Steve’s description and the photos of Tripper’s bird from Friday, 
would be in its third summer or older. At a glance it looks like a classic 
alternate plumage adult ARTE, but the faint darker smudging on the carpal bar 
and the tail streamers that don’t extend beyond the folded wingtips indicate 
that it is not fully mature. I saw a similarly marked individual at Nickerson 
last year, and in 2015 I got a photo of an adult-like ARTE with a surprisingly 
dark bill. The variation in age classes and species of terns is so fascinating. 
I’ve learned a lot from these discussions about Arctics, Roseates, and the 
mysterious dark Commons. Mornings and afternoons at the colonies and inlets are 
one of my favorite parts of early summer here on Long Island.

Cheers!
-Tim H

On Jun 18, 2018, at 6:05 PM, Steve Walter 
mailto:swalte...@verizon.net>> wrote:

Another day, another Arctic Tern at Nickerson Beach. Actually, my first for the 
year, and this one had to be waited on. It might have been too foggy in the 
morning for it to find land (joke). Interesting bird this one. My tern guru 
advises me to call it a “second summer type”. Basically adult looking with a 
red bill, but with a carpal bar and speckling on the forehead (not well visible 
in the picture I posted). In a similar vein, there was a Roseate Tern of less 
than full adult appearance. This bird, and also a full adult, had readable blue 
legs bands. Maybe others have seen this, but this is the first time I’ve seen 
terns with something more readable in the field than the metal bands. I’ll 
reports these (bands B97 and Y11) and find out more in due time. But perhaps 
someone on this list might know something (Joe D?).  Also, a Gull-billed Tern 
flying over the east tern colony around mid-day. Pictures of the Arctic and 
Roseates have been added to the bottom of the Recent Work page at my web site 
http://stevewalternature.com/ .

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

[Timothy Healy]

Steve and other sternid enthusiasts,

Isn’t second summer the term used for the immature aspect birds with white 
foreheads and black bills? A freshly fledged juvenile would be living through 
its first summer, so second summer individuals are yearlings, correct? If my 
understanding of the nomenclature is accurate, the bird I found yesterday, 
which matches Steve’s description and the photos of Tripper’s bird from Friday, 
would be in its third summer or older. At a glance it looks like a classic 
alternate plumage adult ARTE, but the faint darker smudging on the carpal bar 
and the tail streamers that don’t extend beyond the folded wingtips indicate 
that it is not fully mature. I saw a similarly marked individual at Nickerson 
last year, and in 2015 I got a photo of an adult-like ARTE with a surprisingly 
dark bill. The variation in age classes and species of terns is so fascinating. 
I’ve learned a lot from these discussions about Arctics, Roseates, and the 
mysterious dark Commons. Mornings and afternoons at the colonies and inlets are 
one of my favorite parts of early summer here on Long Island. 

Cheers!
-Tim H

> On Jun 18, 2018, at 6:05 PM, Steve Walter  wrote:
> 
> Another day, another Arctic Tern at Nickerson Beach. Actually, my first for 
> the year, and this one had to be waited on. It might have been too foggy in 
> the morning for it to find land (joke). Interesting bird this one. My tern 
> guru advises me to call it a “second summer type”. Basically adult looking 
> with a red bill, but with a carpal bar and speckling on the forehead (not 
> well visible in the picture I posted). In a similar vein, there was a Roseate 
> Tern of less than full adult appearance. This bird, and also a full adult, 
> had readable blue legs bands. Maybe others have seen this, but this is the 
> first time I’ve seen terns with something more readable in the field than the 
> metal bands. I’ll reports these (bands B97 and Y11) and find out more in due 
> time. But perhaps someone on this list might know something (Joe D?).  Also, 
> a Gull-billed Tern flying over the east tern colony around mid-day. Pictures 
> of the Arctic and Roseates have been added to the bottom of the Recent Work 
> page at my web site http://stevewalternature.com/ .
>  
> Steve Walter
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Arctic Tern and others

[Timothy Healy]

Steve and other sternid enthusiasts,

Isn’t second summer the term used for the immature aspect birds with white 
foreheads and black bills? A freshly fledged juvenile would be living through 
its first summer, so second summer individuals are yearlings, correct? If my 
understanding of the nomenclature is accurate, the bird I found yesterday, 
which matches Steve’s description and the photos of Tripper’s bird from Friday, 
would be in its third summer or older. At a glance it looks like a classic 
alternate plumage adult ARTE, but the faint darker smudging on the carpal bar 
and the tail streamers that don’t extend beyond the folded wingtips indicate 
that it is not fully mature. I saw a similarly marked individual at Nickerson 
last year, and in 2015 I got a photo of an adult-like ARTE with a surprisingly 
dark bill. The variation in age classes and species of terns is so fascinating. 
I’ve learned a lot from these discussions about Arctics, Roseates, and the 
mysterious dark Commons. Mornings and afternoons at the colonies and inlets are 
one of my favorite parts of early summer here on Long Island. 

Cheers!
-Tim H

> On Jun 18, 2018, at 6:05 PM, Steve Walter  wrote:
> 
> Another day, another Arctic Tern at Nickerson Beach. Actually, my first for 
> the year, and this one had to be waited on. It might have been too foggy in 
> the morning for it to find land (joke). Interesting bird this one. My tern 
> guru advises me to call it a “second summer type”. Basically adult looking 
> with a red bill, but with a carpal bar and speckling on the forehead (not 
> well visible in the picture I posted). In a similar vein, there was a Roseate 
> Tern of less than full adult appearance. This bird, and also a full adult, 
> had readable blue legs bands. Maybe others have seen this, but this is the 
> first time I’ve seen terns with something more readable in the field than the 
> metal bands. I’ll reports these (bands B97 and Y11) and find out more in due 
> time. But perhaps someone on this list might know something (Joe D?).  Also, 
> a Gull-billed Tern flying over the east tern colony around mid-day. Pictures 
> of the Arctic and Roseates have been added to the bottom of the Recent Work 
> page at my web site http://stevewalternature.com/ .
>  
> Steve Walter
> Bayside, NY
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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach - Terns

[peter paul]

Just to add to the Long Island bird reports from today - I went to
Nickerson and spent around 4 and a half hours terning.  Highlights were a
second summer type ARCTIC TERN, four ROSEATE TERNs, and a
much-discussed-as-of-late, black billed, black legged, long winged,
speckled forheaded COMMON TERN (A Notorious C.O.T.E., if you will).
Finally, there were also at least 15 first summer Common Terns, and a few
second summer types.

The black billed COTE and Roseate's were there for the entire duration of
my time at the park - each time that they flushed, they returned to loaf in
front of the colony.  The ARTE stayed for around an hour, and was
eventually flushed by a truck driving down the beach.

A cooperative Tricolored Heron continued at Marine Nature Study Area as
well.

More photos and details:

https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S46569053

https://www.flickr.com/photos/129132563@N05/

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach - Terns

[peter paul]

Just to add to the Long Island bird reports from today - I went to
Nickerson and spent around 4 and a half hours terning.  Highlights were a
second summer type ARCTIC TERN, four ROSEATE TERNs, and a
much-discussed-as-of-late, black billed, black legged, long winged,
speckled forheaded COMMON TERN (A Notorious C.O.T.E., if you will).
Finally, there were also at least 15 first summer Common Terns, and a few
second summer types.

The black billed COTE and Roseate's were there for the entire duration of
my time at the park - each time that they flushed, they returned to loaf in
front of the colony.  The ARTE stayed for around an hour, and was
eventually flushed by a truck driving down the beach.

A cooperative Tricolored Heron continued at Marine Nature Study Area as
well.

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https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S46569053

https://www.flickr.com/photos/129132563@N05/

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach, Nassau Co. this morning

[Patricia Lindsay]

Highlights included an adult Arctic Tern and continuing Gull-billed (at least 
one) and Roseate (at least four) Terns. Also notable were at least 20 
first-summer Common Terns, one of the largest single-site counts we are aware 
of.

Patricia Lindsay and Shai Mitra
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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach, Nassau Co. this morning

[Patricia Lindsay]

Highlights included an adult Arctic Tern and continuing Gull-billed (at least 
one) and Roseate (at least four) Terns. Also notable were at least 20 
first-summer Common Terns, one of the largest single-site counts we are aware 
of.

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach - Possible Common Tern (longipennis) Species - Comments and thoughts welcome

[peter paul]

Hey all,
Just to throw another specimen into the mix, here (
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S30364262) is a bird that Simon Taylor and
I found a couple of summers ago at Nickerson.  We noted many of the
structural, plumage, and molt features that Shai mentions in the 2011
listserv email.

This album has a couple more pictures of the same bird:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/129132563@N05/albums/72157687846819856

Happy tern-ing,
Tripper

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 9:40 PM, Long Island Birding 
wrote:

> Hello Shai and everyone,
> Thanks so much for your detailed response Shai.  I changed the listing to
> Common Tern and added one more picture with more of a side view, but
> unfortunately I wasn't able to get a flight shot or any shots with the
> wings spread open.  I am curious if this bird will reach more of the
> classic breeding plumage that I am used to seeing or remain dark and how
> that might affect its ability to breed this year.  I do also think the legs
> are a bit darker than the pictures let on.  There was another interesting
> bird yesterday that was speculated to be an adult common tern showing
> retarded plumage, however it looked quite different than the one in my
> report and resembled more of a second summer tern.  Thank you again for
> shedding some light on this Shai!
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach - Possible Common Tern (longipennis) Species - Comments and thoughts welcome

[peter paul]

Hey all,
Just to throw another specimen into the mix, here (
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S30364262) is a bird that Simon Taylor and
I found a couple of summers ago at Nickerson.  We noted many of the
structural, plumage, and molt features that Shai mentions in the 2011
listserv email.

This album has a couple more pictures of the same bird:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/129132563@N05/albums/72157687846819856

Happy tern-ing,
Tripper

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> Hello Shai and everyone,
> Thanks so much for your detailed response Shai.  I changed the listing to
> Common Tern and added one more picture with more of a side view, but
> unfortunately I wasn't able to get a flight shot or any shots with the
> wings spread open.  I am curious if this bird will reach more of the
> classic breeding plumage that I am used to seeing or remain dark and how
> that might affect its ability to breed this year.  I do also think the legs
> are a bit darker than the pictures let on.  There was another interesting
> bird yesterday that was speculated to be an adult common tern showing
> retarded plumage, however it looked quite different than the one in my
> report and resembled more of a second summer tern.  Thank you again for
> shedding some light on this Shai!
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach - Possible Common Tern (longipennis) Species - Comments and thoughts welcome

[Long Island Birding]

Hello Shai and everyone,
Thanks so much for your detailed response Shai.  I changed the listing to
Common Tern and added one more picture with more of a side view, but
unfortunately I wasn't able to get a flight shot or any shots with the
wings spread open.  I am curious if this bird will reach more of the
classic breeding plumage that I am used to seeing or remain dark and how
that might affect its ability to breed this year.  I do also think the legs
are a bit darker than the pictures let on.  There was another interesting
bird yesterday that was speculated to be an adult common tern showing
retarded plumage, however it looked quite different than the one in my
report and resembled more of a second summer tern.  Thank you again for
shedding some light on this Shai!
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[Long Island Birding]

Hello Shai and everyone,
Thanks so much for your detailed response Shai.  I changed the listing to
Common Tern and added one more picture with more of a side view, but
unfortunately I wasn't able to get a flight shot or any shots with the
wings spread open.  I am curious if this bird will reach more of the
classic breeding plumage that I am used to seeing or remain dark and how
that might affect its ability to breed this year.  I do also think the legs
are a bit darker than the pictures let on.  There was another interesting
bird yesterday that was speculated to be an adult common tern showing
retarded plumage, however it looked quite different than the one in my
report and resembled more of a second summer tern.  Thank you again for
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach - Possible Common Tern (longipennis) Species - Comments and thoughts welcome

[Shaibal Mitra]

Dear Mike and all,

This is an interesting bird, and well worth careful discussion. The photos are, 
as is so often necessarily the case, not ideal for assessing wing pattern and 
structure, and several other features. To my eye, the combination of adult-like 
plumage, darkish bill, not so dark legs, and not very deeply gray underparts is 
consistent with an early season variation of adult hirundo Common Tern that we 
do see from time to time.

The jury is certainly still out on the status of longipennis Common Terns on 
the east coast, and in the past I have eBirded the ones I've seen under regular 
"Common Tern"--but with lots of notation and documentation. Based on the 
checklists you've linked from Jay and Michael, provisionally specifying this 
form, I agree it might be best to take this approach while we work things out. 
At least it would be easier to collect and access the evidence.

Anyway, two of the best (and earliest in NY) candidates for longipennis were 
birds at Cupsogue on 26 Jun 2011 and 24 Jun 2014. I've aggregated photos of 
these at the following link:

https://flic.kr/s/aHskD7WtGd

As you will see, these birds were not only different in soft parts colors and 
plumage from same-aged hirundo COTE, but also different in terms of structure 
and molt (as explained in part in the note to this listserv from 27 Jun 2011, 
copied at the end of this note).

I've seen a few more also, including these two I was able to find quickly just 
now:

https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S37872552
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S37963638

It seems odd that the best candidates have always been second-summer (TY) 
birds, but there are two points worth emphasizing on this front. First, 
subadult terns are definitely proven to be prone to wander; second, these 
longipennis candidates differ very strongly in multiple ways from the range of 
variation I've documented in same-aged hirundo COTE over the past 20 years. The 
links in my copied email are long defunct, but I can direct those who are 
interested to long series of images of TY hirundo COTE from our area.

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore



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Subject: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach - Possible Common Tern (longipennis) 
Species - Comments and thoughts welcome

Hello all,
On 5/22 at Nickerson Beach I observed a Common Tern that stood out from the 
rest.  It was the same size/shape as the other common terns, but the bill and 
legs were much darker.
I showed the bird to a friend who is an eBird reviewer and he suggested that it 
was a Common Tern (longipennis).  He also mentioned that this particular 
subspecies has been previously reported on Long Island.
Looking up those reports, I found there were two entries with photos by Jay 
McGowan and Michael McBrien on eBird, described by both as exceedingly rare.  
Here are the checklists:
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S14608476
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S30291552

After seeing this I was surprised, because I have seen birds that looked like 
this before (even one yesterday).  In the past I have heard them referred to as 
portlandica type birds, but it is my understanding that portlandica refers to 
first summer tern plumage, which this bird clearly was not (I would say it was 
also clearly not second summer tern plumage either.).  My report was not 
accepted to eBird as of yet, so it is not in eBird output, but here is the bird 
I saw (Pictures in the linked eBird checklist and short video in youtube):
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S46147297
https://youtu.be/qGdfoevCKxU

Anyway I would like to hear any thoughts or comments. Thanks,
Mike Z.
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From: bounce-37742728-11143...@list.cornell.edu 
[bounce-37742728-11143...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Shaibal Mitra 
[shaibal.mi...@csi.cuny.edu]
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 11:43 AM
To: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu)
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Possible Siberian Common Tern (S. h. longipennis) on Long 
Island

A second-summer type Common Tern present at Cupsogue, just east of Moriches 
Inlet, last weekend (25-26 June) resembled the Siberian subspecies of Common 
Tern (Sterna hirundo longipennis):

Bill black, with a slight red tinge
Legs dark reddish-black
Ventral body deeply gray, especially for a second-summer type individual
Wings appeared relatively long both at rest and in flight

Its wingtip pattern also differed from the typical summer pattern of local 
Common Terns in that all the primaries (except perhaps p10) appeared uniformly 
fresh and pale, but it is not very unusual for non-adults to vary in this 
regard.

In my experience, however, it is extremely rare to see such dark legs on any 
early summer Common Tern (even first summer birds), and it is also extremely 
rare to 

RE: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach - Possible Common Tern (longipennis) Species - Comments and thoughts welcome

[Shaibal Mitra]

Dear Mike and all,

This is an interesting bird, and well worth careful discussion. The photos are, 
as is so often necessarily the case, not ideal for assessing wing pattern and 
structure, and several other features. To my eye, the combination of adult-like 
plumage, darkish bill, not so dark legs, and not very deeply gray underparts is 
consistent with an early season variation of adult hirundo Common Tern that we 
do see from time to time.

The jury is certainly still out on the status of longipennis Common Terns on 
the east coast, and in the past I have eBirded the ones I've seen under regular 
"Common Tern"--but with lots of notation and documentation. Based on the 
checklists you've linked from Jay and Michael, provisionally specifying this 
form, I agree it might be best to take this approach while we work things out. 
At least it would be easier to collect and access the evidence.

Anyway, two of the best (and earliest in NY) candidates for longipennis were 
birds at Cupsogue on 26 Jun 2011 and 24 Jun 2014. I've aggregated photos of 
these at the following link:

https://flic.kr/s/aHskD7WtGd

As you will see, these birds were not only different in soft parts colors and 
plumage from same-aged hirundo COTE, but also different in terms of structure 
and molt (as explained in part in the note to this listserv from 27 Jun 2011, 
copied at the end of this note).

I've seen a few more also, including these two I was able to find quickly just 
now:

https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S37872552
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S37963638

It seems odd that the best candidates have always been second-summer (TY) 
birds, but there are two points worth emphasizing on this front. First, 
subadult terns are definitely proven to be prone to wander; second, these 
longipennis candidates differ very strongly in multiple ways from the range of 
variation I've documented in same-aged hirundo COTE over the past 20 years. The 
links in my copied email are long defunct, but I can direct those who are 
interested to long series of images of TY hirundo COTE from our area.

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore



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[bounce-122625024-3714...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Long Island Birding 
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Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 8:08 PM
To: birds
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach - Possible Common Tern (longipennis) 
Species - Comments and thoughts welcome

Hello all,
On 5/22 at Nickerson Beach I observed a Common Tern that stood out from the 
rest.  It was the same size/shape as the other common terns, but the bill and 
legs were much darker.
I showed the bird to a friend who is an eBird reviewer and he suggested that it 
was a Common Tern (longipennis).  He also mentioned that this particular 
subspecies has been previously reported on Long Island.
Looking up those reports, I found there were two entries with photos by Jay 
McGowan and Michael McBrien on eBird, described by both as exceedingly rare.  
Here are the checklists:
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S14608476
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S30291552

After seeing this I was surprised, because I have seen birds that looked like 
this before (even one yesterday).  In the past I have heard them referred to as 
portlandica type birds, but it is my understanding that portlandica refers to 
first summer tern plumage, which this bird clearly was not (I would say it was 
also clearly not second summer tern plumage either.).  My report was not 
accepted to eBird as of yet, so it is not in eBird output, but here is the bird 
I saw (Pictures in the linked eBird checklist and short video in youtube):
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S46147297
https://youtu.be/qGdfoevCKxU

Anyway I would like to hear any thoughts or comments. Thanks,
Mike Z.
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[bounce-37742728-11143...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Shaibal Mitra 
[shaibal.mi...@csi.cuny.edu]
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 11:43 AM
To: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu)
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Possible Siberian Common Tern (S. h. longipennis) on Long 
Island

A second-summer type Common Tern present at Cupsogue, just east of Moriches 
Inlet, last weekend (25-26 June) resembled the Siberian subspecies of Common 
Tern (Sterna hirundo longipennis):

Bill black, with a slight red tinge
Legs dark reddish-black
Ventral body deeply gray, especially for a second-summer type individual
Wings appeared relatively long both at rest and in flight

Its wingtip pattern also differed from the typical summer pattern of local 
Common Terns in that all the primaries (except perhaps p10) appeared uniformly 
fresh and pale, but it is not very unusual for non-adults to vary in this 
regard.

In my experience, however, it is extremely rare to see such dark legs on any 
early summer Common Tern (even first summer birds), and it is also extremely 
rare to 

[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach - Possible Common Tern (longipennis) Species - Comments and thoughts welcome

[Long Island Birding]

Hello all,
On 5/22 at Nickerson Beach I observed a Common Tern that stood out from the
rest.  It was the same size/shape as the other common terns, but the bill
and legs were much darker.
I showed the bird to a friend who is an eBird reviewer and he suggested
that it was a Common Tern (longipennis).  He also mentioned that this
particular subspecies has been previously reported on Long Island.
Looking up those reports, I found there were two entries with photos by Jay
McGowan and Michael McBrien on eBird, described by both as exceedingly
rare.  Here are the checklists:
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S14608476
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S30291552

After seeing this I was surprised, because I have seen birds that looked
like this before (even one yesterday).  In the past I have heard them
referred to as portlandica type birds, but it is my understanding that
portlandica refers to first summer tern plumage, which this bird clearly
was not (I would say it was also clearly not second summer tern plumage
either.).  My report was not accepted to eBird as of yet, so it is not
in eBird output, but here is the bird I saw (Pictures in the linked eBird
checklist and short video in youtube):
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S46147297
https://youtu.be/qGdfoevCKxU

Anyway I would like to hear any thoughts or comments. Thanks,
Mike Z.

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach - Possible Common Tern (longipennis) Species - Comments and thoughts welcome

[Long Island Birding]

Hello all,
On 5/22 at Nickerson Beach I observed a Common Tern that stood out from the
rest.  It was the same size/shape as the other common terns, but the bill
and legs were much darker.
I showed the bird to a friend who is an eBird reviewer and he suggested
that it was a Common Tern (longipennis).  He also mentioned that this
particular subspecies has been previously reported on Long Island.
Looking up those reports, I found there were two entries with photos by Jay
McGowan and Michael McBrien on eBird, described by both as exceedingly
rare.  Here are the checklists:
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S14608476
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S30291552

After seeing this I was surprised, because I have seen birds that looked
like this before (even one yesterday).  In the past I have heard them
referred to as portlandica type birds, but it is my understanding that
portlandica refers to first summer tern plumage, which this bird clearly
was not (I would say it was also clearly not second summer tern plumage
either.).  My report was not accepted to eBird as of yet, so it is not
in eBird output, but here is the bird I saw (Pictures in the linked eBird
checklist and short video in youtube):
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S46147297
https://youtu.be/qGdfoevCKxU

Anyway I would like to hear any thoughts or comments. Thanks,
Mike Z.

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson beach roseates

[Robert Lewis]

5 adults east side of Nickerson beach

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson beach roseates

[Robert Lewis]

5 adults east side of Nickerson beach

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Highlights

[Andrew Baksh]

Foggy conditions for most of the AM at Nickerson Beach made for slow birding.

Highlights included Surf Scoter (1) Gull-billed (2), Roseate (1) and Royal Tern 
(1).

Cheers,

"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

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林　Quiet as the forest
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Sun Tzu  The Art of War

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Highlights

[Andrew Baksh]

Foggy conditions for most of the AM at Nickerson Beach made for slow birding.

Highlights included Surf Scoter (1) Gull-billed (2), Roseate (1) and Royal Tern 
(1).

Cheers,

"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of War

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach, Long Island

[Goldstein, Gina]

Dawn Hannay and I saw surf scoters at Nickerson today: one fairly close to 
shore and 8 farther out. Also an American Pipit found by Rob Bate and Rich 
Fried.

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach, Long Island

[Goldstein, Gina]

Dawn Hannay and I saw surf scoters at Nickerson today: one fairly close to 
shore and 8 farther out. Also an American Pipit found by Rob Bate and Rich 
Fried.

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach seabirds

[Isaac Grant]

Not to be a buzzkill but just want to remind people that while situations like 
this are great for birders they are very bad for the birds. While walking into 
the beach I was literally hit by a Great Shearwater near the entrance. Talking 
to a beach employee he told me that 25 were taken in to a rehabber on Long 
Beach and we found at least 10 exhausted birds that they were holding over 
night at Nickerson. All birds seemed well fed and they just had no energy left. 
Near dark I took 2 more out of the surf and put them behind little sand castles 
to shelter them from the wind. Very sad to see. 

During my time seawatching I had the following. 

75+ Great Shearwater
5 Corey's
1 Manx
2 Sooty
1 Parastic Jaeger came onshore at sundown and buzzed the east Tern colony. 
Also had an adult Arctic Tern on the beach of the east Tern colony as well. 
5 Roseate Terns sitting on beach



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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach seabirds

[Isaac Grant]

Not to be a buzzkill but just want to remind people that while situations like 
this are great for birders they are very bad for the birds. While walking into 
the beach I was literally hit by a Great Shearwater near the entrance. Talking 
to a beach employee he told me that 25 were taken in to a rehabber on Long 
Beach and we found at least 10 exhausted birds that they were holding over 
night at Nickerson. All birds seemed well fed and they just had no energy left. 
Near dark I took 2 more out of the surf and put them behind little sand castles 
to shelter them from the wind. Very sad to see. 

During my time seawatching I had the following. 

75+ Great Shearwater
5 Corey's
1 Manx
2 Sooty
1 Parastic Jaeger came onshore at sundown and buzzed the east Tern colony. 
Also had an adult Arctic Tern on the beach of the east Tern colony as well. 
5 Roseate Terns sitting on beach



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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach, Nassau

[Ardith Bondi]

Peter Post and I (Ardith Bondi) later saw the Royal Terns copulate, and as far 
as Peter remembers, there is no nesting record for them in NY State. Would be 
exciting if they were to nest at Nickerson. 

Later yet, a third Royal Tern joined the other two.  

Ardith
NYC
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Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 11, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Karen Fung  wrote:
> 
> Adding to Tripper's list:
> Two Royal Terns on the beach at the western end of Nickerson, just east of 
> the Least Tern colony. Flagged by eBird as "rare" (= early?); seen ~11:10am. 
> 
> 
> Karen Fung
> NYC
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> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2017, at 9:09 AM, Pepaul  wrote:
>> 
>> In the past hour and a half: one BLACK TERN, two ROSEATE TERNs, one 
>> GULL-BILLED TERN, a few Lesser Black-backed Gulls of varying ages. Also 12 
>> Red Knots made a short appearance. 
>> 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach, Nassau

[Ardith Bondi]

Peter Post and I (Ardith Bondi) later saw the Royal Terns copulate, and as far 
as Peter remembers, there is no nesting record for them in NY State. Would be 
exciting if they were to nest at Nickerson. 

Later yet, a third Royal Tern joined the other two.  

Ardith
NYC
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Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 11, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Karen Fung  wrote:
> 
> Adding to Tripper's list:
> Two Royal Terns on the beach at the western end of Nickerson, just east of 
> the Least Tern colony. Flagged by eBird as "rare" (= early?); seen ~11:10am. 
> 
> 
> Karen Fung
> NYC
> http://BIRDSiVIEWS.com
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2017, at 9:09 AM, Pepaul  wrote:
>> 
>> In the past hour and a half: one BLACK TERN, two ROSEATE TERNs, one 
>> GULL-BILLED TERN, a few Lesser Black-backed Gulls of varying ages. Also 12 
>> Red Knots made a short appearance. 
>> 
>> Good birding, 
>> Tripper 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach, Nassau

[Karen Fung]

Adding to Tripper's list:
Two Royal Terns on the beach at the western end of Nickerson, just east of the 
Least Tern colony. Flagged by eBird as "rare" (= early?); seen ~11:10am. 


Karen Fung
NYC
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Sent from my iPhone


> On Jun 11, 2017, at 9:09 AM, Pepaul  wrote:
> 
> In the past hour and a half: one BLACK TERN, two ROSEATE TERNs, one 
> GULL-BILLED TERN, a few Lesser Black-backed Gulls of varying ages. Also 12 
> Red Knots made a short appearance. 
> 
> Good birding, 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach, Nassau

[Karen Fung]

Adding to Tripper's list:
Two Royal Terns on the beach at the western end of Nickerson, just east of the 
Least Tern colony. Flagged by eBird as "rare" (= early?); seen ~11:10am. 


Karen Fung
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> On Jun 11, 2017, at 9:09 AM, Pepaul  wrote:
> 
> In the past hour and a half: one BLACK TERN, two ROSEATE TERNs, one 
> GULL-BILLED TERN, a few Lesser Black-backed Gulls of varying ages. Also 12 
> Red Knots made a short appearance. 
> 
> Good birding, 
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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach, Nassau

[Pepaul]

In the past hour and a half: one BLACK TERN, two ROSEATE TERNs, one GULL-BILLED 
TERN, a few Lesser Black-backed Gulls of varying ages. Also 12 Red Knots made a 
short appearance. 

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach, Nassau

[Pepaul]

In the past hour and a half: one BLACK TERN, two ROSEATE TERNs, one GULL-BILLED 
TERN, a few Lesser Black-backed Gulls of varying ages. Also 12 Red Knots made a 
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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach, Nassau - Fee Details

[Deborah Martin]

I stopped in at the administrative office at Nickerson to check on the details 
regarding the parking fees.
Nickerson is a Nassau County (not NY state) property.  Fees are collected daily 
- including from seniors. 
Fees are collected from 9 am to 4 pm.  If you arrive before 9, you can enter 
without a fee and your car can remain in the lot once fees start being 
collected - there won't be anyone looking for a receipt/ticket on the 
dashboard.  If you arrive after 4, there won't be toll takers collecting a fee. 
>From 9-4 fees are: 
Fee for Nassau County residents who have a Leisure Pass is $12.
Fee for those who do not have a Leisure Pass is $35.  



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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach, Nassau - Fee Details

[Deborah Martin]

I stopped in at the administrative office at Nickerson to check on the details 
regarding the parking fees.
Nickerson is a Nassau County (not NY state) property.  Fees are collected daily 
- including from seniors. 
Fees are collected from 9 am to 4 pm.  If you arrive before 9, you can enter 
without a fee and your car can remain in the lot once fees start being 
collected - there won't be anyone looking for a receipt/ticket on the 
dashboard.  If you arrive after 4, there won't be toll takers collecting a fee. 
>From 9-4 fees are: 
Fee for Nassau County residents who have a Leisure Pass is $12.
Fee for those who do not have a Leisure Pass is $35.  



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Re:[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach (addition)

[Michael Zito]

2 Bonapartes and perhaps 2 additional Roseates. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 7, 2017, at 7:41 AM, Michael Zito  wrote:
> 
> Black tern and two Roseate terns currently on the beach.
> Mike Z. 
> 
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Re:[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach (addition)

[Michael Zito]

2 Bonapartes and perhaps 2 additional Roseates. 

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> On Jun 7, 2017, at 7:41 AM, Michael Zito  wrote:
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> Black tern and two Roseate terns currently on the beach.
> Mike Z. 
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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach

[Michael Zito]

Black tern and two Roseate terns currently on the beach.
Mike Z. 

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach

[Michael Zito]

Black tern and two Roseate terns currently on the beach.
Mike Z. 

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Terns

[kevin rogers]

After talking shop about migrating Terns with Michael Farina at Oceanside 
Marine Nature Center recently, A concentrated effort to check out Nickerson 
looking for all the Terns I have yet to see, Roseate,Gull-billed, Arctic and 
Sandwich has been in effect. Upon arriving a few days ago I had a Royal Tern on 
the beach,not far from the dunes where there is always varying degrees of 
water. Unfortunately a peregrine flushed it, and everything else around, and I 
tried to relocate it unsuccessfully the rest of the afternoon. Looking back on 
the same area a hour or so later, I noticed a bathing tern that looked 
different,  and happily it was a Gull-billed Tern. It did not stay long, and I 
also couldn't relocate it. Today June 4th, I went back to Nickerson in the late 
afternoon and was seeing common and least terns, many laughing Gulls and a few 
Piping Plovers back were i had seen the royal and gull billed terns. I headed 
to the main tern/skimmer nesting area, with caution and respect of course, and 
my luck changed to amazing when I bumped into Bob P. he was scanning the area 
and pulled out a Roseate Tern as it came in to land close to the water mixing 
in with a flock of common Terns. We were both elated and got great looks at the 
Roseate, Thanks Bob, that was impressive, and I'm so appreciative!! This was 
getting close to sundown with grey skies and I know it's a late report, but I 
hope it can give some idea of what's going on down at Nickerson! Kind 
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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Terns

[kevin rogers]

After talking shop about migrating Terns with Michael Farina at Oceanside 
Marine Nature Center recently, A concentrated effort to check out Nickerson 
looking for all the Terns I have yet to see, Roseate,Gull-billed, Arctic and 
Sandwich has been in effect. Upon arriving a few days ago I had a Royal Tern on 
the beach,not far from the dunes where there is always varying degrees of 
water. Unfortunately a peregrine flushed it, and everything else around, and I 
tried to relocate it unsuccessfully the rest of the afternoon. Looking back on 
the same area a hour or so later, I noticed a bathing tern that looked 
different,  and happily it was a Gull-billed Tern. It did not stay long, and I 
also couldn't relocate it. Today June 4th, I went back to Nickerson in the late 
afternoon and was seeing common and least terns, many laughing Gulls and a few 
Piping Plovers back were i had seen the royal and gull billed terns. I headed 
to the main tern/skimmer nesting area, with caution and respect of course, and 
my luck changed to amazing when I bumped into Bob P. he was scanning the area 
and pulled out a Roseate Tern as it came in to land close to the water mixing 
in with a flock of common Terns. We were both elated and got great looks at the 
Roseate, Thanks Bob, that was impressive, and I'm so appreciative!! This was 
getting close to sundown with grey skies and I know it's a late report, but I 
hope it can give some idea of what's going on down at Nickerson! Kind 
Regards-Kev

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach

[pwpost]

Ardith Bondi and I (Peter Post) had nine species of shorebirds at Nickerson 
Beach this morning. Highlights were a MARBLED GODWIT (great views and photos) 
and 3 RED KNOTS. 



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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Parking Lot - black-bellied whistling ducks

[Rob Longiaru]

A mated pair of Black-bellied whistling ducks were seen in the man-made pond in 
the west side of Nickerson Beach Parking lot. Seems like they're out of their 
jurisdiction :)

Rob Longiaru
Town of Hempstead Dept of Conservation & Waterways

> On Jul 21, 2015, at 12:09 AM, & [NYSBIRDS] digest 
>  wrote:
> 
> NYSBIRDS-L Digest for Monday, July 20, 2015.
> 
> 1. At times, things are not what they seem to be...at least to some of us !
> 2. Syracuse RBA
> 3. Cupsogue Report and Jamaica Bay water level update
> 
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> 
> Subject: At times, things are not what they seem to be...at least to some of 
> us !
> From: robert adamo 
> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 00:17:18 -0400
> X-Message-Number: 1
> 
> I want to thank both Paul Sweet and Shai Mitra for the quick course in Bird
> Anatomy, in response to my post of 7/18, when I incorrectly referred to the
> birds knee, rather than it's ankle...a mistake, I don't think I'll make
> again ! I also have the feeling, that by getting the correct terminology
> out there, Paul & Shai will be helping other birders than just myself, who
> use the list-serve.
> 
> Cheers,
> Bob
> 
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> Subject: Syracuse RBA
> From: Joseph Brin 
> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 18:38:36 + (UTC)
> X-Message-Number: 2
> 
> RBA *  New York*  Syracuse* July 20 2015*  NYSY  07. 20. 15 Hotline: Syracuse 
> Rare bird AlertDates(s):July 20, 2015 - July 20, 2015to report by e-mail: 
> brinjoseph AT yahoo.comcovering upstate NY counties: Cayuga, Montezuma 
> National Wildlife Refugeand Montezuma Wetlands Complex (MWC) (just outside 
> Cayuga County),Onondaga, Oswego, Lewis, Jefferson, Oneida, Herkimer,  Madison 
> & Cortlandcompiled: July 20  AT 2:00 p.m. (DST)compiler: Joseph BrinOnondaga 
> Audubon Homepage: www.onondagaaudubon.org  #451 Monday July 20, 2015 
> Greetings. This is the Syracuse Area Rare Bird Alert for the week of July 13, 
> 2014 Highlights:---
> BLACK-CROWNED NIGHT-HERONGREATER YELLOWLEGSLESSER 
> YELLOWLEGSSANDERLINGSOLITARY SANDPIPERPECTORAL SANDPIPERSEMI-PALMATED 
> SANDPIPERLEAST SANDPIPERWHITE-RUMPED SANDPIPERSTILT SANDPIPERSHORT-BILLED 
> DOWITCHERBLACK-BACKED WOODPECKER
> 
> 
> Montezuma National Wildlife Complex (MNWC) and Montezuma Wetlands Complex 
> (MWC)
>  7/14: 9 species of Shorebirds including WHITE-RUMPED SANDPIPER and 
> SHORT-BILLED DOWITCHER were seen at Knox-Marsellus Maarsh. 7/18: 12 
> species of Shorebirds including 6 STILT SANDPIPERS, and 11 SHORT-BILLED 
> DOWITCHERS were seen along the Wildlife Drive. A LEAST BITTERN was seen there 
> also. SEMI-PALMATED PLOVER, PECTORAL SANDPIPER and SANDERLING were noted at 
> Knox-Marsellus Marsh. 2 RED-HEADED WOODPECKERS are still being seen at Mays 
> Point Road in the dead trees. 7/19: 2 WHITE-RUMPED SANDPIPERS were seen 
> on the Wildlife Drive. A LEAST BITTERN was seen at VanDyne Spoot Road in the 
> Marsh.
> 
> Onondaga County
>  7/14: An adult BLACK-CROWNED NIGHT-HERON was seen along the creek walk 
> on Onondaga Creek at Spenser Street in Syracuse. 7/18: GREATER 
> YELLOWLEGS, LESSER YELLOWLEGS and LEAST SANDPIPERS were seen in the ball 
> field on Van Rensselear Street in Syracuse.
> 
> Madison County
>  7/14: GREATER YELLOWLEGS were seen at the sod farm on Lakeport Road. 
> SEMI-PALMATED SANDPIPER, SOLITARY SANDPIPER and LEAST SANDPIPER were seen on 
> Ditchbank Road.
> 
> Herkimer County
>  7/19: A BLACK-BACKED WOODPECKER was seen and photographed in the 
> northern part of the county east of Croghan near Woods Road.
>   --  end report
> 
> 
> Joseph BrinRegion 5Baldwinsville, N.Y.  13027  U.S.A.  
> --
> 
> Subject: Cupsogue Report and Jamaica Bay water level update
> From: Andrew Baksh 
> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 18:44:53 -0400
> X-Message-Number: 3
> 
> On Sunday, I birded both the rising and falling tides at the Cupsogue flats
> on Long Island. There were not a lot of birds, especially in the peep
> variety but the diversity of shorebirds has increased. I ended up with 17
> species of shorebirds (I counted both Willet subspecies as separate
> entries).
> 
> 3rd time this season, I have stumbled on a Whimbrel which I always hear
> first before seeing. Red Knots were new for the season with 2 and 3
> Sanderlings were also new on the flats within the last few weeks. The two
> basic plumage Dunlins continued. A couple of Royal Terns also made brief
> appearances during high and falling tide. No other terns of note were
> observed but I spent a considerable amount of time just studying and
> observing Common and Forster's Terns.  The shorebird species are listed
> below:
> 
> American Oystercatcher
> Black-bellied Plover
> Semipalmated Plover
> Piping Plover
> Spotted Sandpiper
> Greater Yellowlegs
> Lesser Yellowlegs
> Willet 

[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Parking Lot - black-bellied whistling ducks

[Rob Longiaru]

A mated pair of Black-bellied whistling ducks were seen in the man-made pond in 
the west side of Nickerson Beach Parking lot. Seems like they're out of their 
jurisdiction :)

Rob Longiaru
Town of Hempstead Dept of Conservation  Waterways

 On Jul 21, 2015, at 12:09 AM,  [NYSBIRDS] digest 
 nysbird...@list.cornell.edu wrote:
 
 NYSBIRDS-L Digest for Monday, July 20, 2015.
 
 1. At times, things are not what they seem to be...at least to some of us !
 2. Syracuse RBA
 3. Cupsogue Report and Jamaica Bay water level update
 
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 Subject: At times, things are not what they seem to be...at least to some of 
 us !
 From: robert adamo radamo4...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 00:17:18 -0400
 X-Message-Number: 1
 
 I want to thank both Paul Sweet and Shai Mitra for the quick course in Bird
 Anatomy, in response to my post of 7/18, when I incorrectly referred to the
 birds knee, rather than it's ankle...a mistake, I don't think I'll make
 again ! I also have the feeling, that by getting the correct terminology
 out there, Paul  Shai will be helping other birders than just myself, who
 use the list-serve.
 
 Cheers,
 Bob
 
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 Subject: Syracuse RBA
 From: Joseph Brin brinjos...@yahoo.com
 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 18:38:36 + (UTC)
 X-Message-Number: 2
 
 RBA *  New York*  Syracuse* July 20 2015*  NYSY  07. 20. 15 Hotline: Syracuse 
 Rare bird AlertDates(s):July 20, 2015 - July 20, 2015to report by e-mail: 
 brinjoseph AT yahoo.comcovering upstate NY counties: Cayuga, Montezuma 
 National Wildlife Refugeand Montezuma Wetlands Complex (MWC) (just outside 
 Cayuga County),Onondaga, Oswego, Lewis, Jefferson, Oneida, Herkimer,  Madison 
  Cortlandcompiled: July 20  AT 2:00 p.m. (DST)compiler: Joseph BrinOnondaga 
 Audubon Homepage: www.onondagaaudubon.org  #451 Monday July 20, 2015 
 Greetings. This is the Syracuse Area Rare Bird Alert for the week of July 13, 
 2014 Highlights:---
 BLACK-CROWNED NIGHT-HERONGREATER YELLOWLEGSLESSER 
 YELLOWLEGSSANDERLINGSOLITARY SANDPIPERPECTORAL SANDPIPERSEMI-PALMATED 
 SANDPIPERLEAST SANDPIPERWHITE-RUMPED SANDPIPERSTILT SANDPIPERSHORT-BILLED 
 DOWITCHERBLACK-BACKED WOODPECKER
 
 
 Montezuma National Wildlife Complex (MNWC) and Montezuma Wetlands Complex 
 (MWC)
  7/14: 9 species of Shorebirds including WHITE-RUMPED SANDPIPER and 
 SHORT-BILLED DOWITCHER were seen at Knox-Marsellus Maarsh. 7/18: 12 
 species of Shorebirds including 6 STILT SANDPIPERS, and 11 SHORT-BILLED 
 DOWITCHERS were seen along the Wildlife Drive. A LEAST BITTERN was seen there 
 also. SEMI-PALMATED PLOVER, PECTORAL SANDPIPER and SANDERLING were noted at 
 Knox-Marsellus Marsh. 2 RED-HEADED WOODPECKERS are still being seen at Mays 
 Point Road in the dead trees. 7/19: 2 WHITE-RUMPED SANDPIPERS were seen 
 on the Wildlife Drive. A LEAST BITTERN was seen at VanDyne Spoot Road in the 
 Marsh.
 
 Onondaga County
  7/14: An adult BLACK-CROWNED NIGHT-HERON was seen along the creek walk 
 on Onondaga Creek at Spenser Street in Syracuse. 7/18: GREATER 
 YELLOWLEGS, LESSER YELLOWLEGS and LEAST SANDPIPERS were seen in the ball 
 field on Van Rensselear Street in Syracuse.
 
 Madison County
  7/14: GREATER YELLOWLEGS were seen at the sod farm on Lakeport Road. 
 SEMI-PALMATED SANDPIPER, SOLITARY SANDPIPER and LEAST SANDPIPER were seen on 
 Ditchbank Road.
 
 Herkimer County
  7/19: A BLACK-BACKED WOODPECKER was seen and photographed in the 
 northern part of the county east of Croghan near Woods Road.
   --  end report
 
 
 Joseph BrinRegion 5Baldwinsville, N.Y.  13027  U.S.A.  
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 Subject: Cupsogue Report and Jamaica Bay water level update
 From: Andrew Baksh birdingd...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 18:44:53 -0400
 X-Message-Number: 3
 
 On Sunday, I birded both the rising and falling tides at the Cupsogue flats
 on Long Island. There were not a lot of birds, especially in the peep
 variety but the diversity of shorebirds has increased. I ended up with 17
 species of shorebirds (I counted both Willet subspecies as separate
 entries).
 
 3rd time this season, I have stumbled on a Whimbrel which I always hear
 first before seeing. Red Knots were new for the season with 2 and 3
 Sanderlings were also new on the flats within the last few weeks. The two
 basic plumage Dunlins continued. A couple of Royal Terns also made brief
 appearances during high and falling tide. No other terns of note were
 observed but I spent a considerable amount of time just studying and
 observing Common and Forster's Terns.  The shorebird species are listed
 below:
 
 American Oystercatcher
 Black-bellied Plover
 Semipalmated Plover
 Piping Plover
 Spotted Sandpiper
 Greater Yellowlegs
 Lesser Yellowlegs
 Willet (Eastern)
 Willet (Western)
 

Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach ARCTIC TERN, no

[Felipe Pimentel]

I got a picture of the bird (posted today in New York Birders-Facebook) and the 
identification of the Roseate was confirmed. I did not find for the Arctic tern 
either but terns don’t stay on the dunes or the shore. The Black tern went out 
to sea around 4:30pm (I guess to fish) and returned around 6:30PM. There were a 
significant number of birders (and bird photographers) at that time looking for 
the uncommon terns. 

Felipe Pimentel

On Jun 11, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Robert Lewis  wrote:

> Yesterday afternoon from about 3:20 to 6:00 I birded Nickerson Beach, Nassau 
> County.  No Arctic Tern.  
> 
> Another birder was there for most of that time (whose name escapes me, sorry) 
> and he too reported no luck, though he did say he saw a Roseate.  There was a 
> Black Tern.
> 
> The flock of Common Terns was most numerous at 3:20 and slowly decreased.  
> Not sure if this is a tidal effect or what.
> 
> Bob Lewis 
> Sleepy Hollow NY
> 
> From: syschiff 
> To: NYSBIRDS_L  
> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 5:13 PM
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach ARCTIC TERN
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> As an addition to my earlier post I am attaching the following.  Suspect 
> ARCTIC TERN  confirmed by expert.
>  
> Sy.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach ARCTIC TERN, no

[Robert Lewis]

Yesterday afternoon from about 3:20 to 6:00 I birded Nickerson Beach, Nassau 
County.  No Arctic Tern.  

Another birder was there for most of that time (whose name escapes me, sorry) 
and he too reported no luck, though he did say he saw a Roseate.  There was a 
Black Tern.
The flock of Common Terns was most numerous at 3:20 and slowly decreased.  Not 
sure if this is a tidal effect or what.
Bob Lewis 
Sleepy Hollow NY

  From: syschiff 
 To: NYSBIRDS_L  
 Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 5:13 PM
 Subject: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach ARCTIC TERN
   
 Hi all, As an addition to my earlier post I am attaching the following.  
Suspect ARCTIC TERN  confirmed by expert. 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach ARCTIC TERN, no

[Robert Lewis]

Yesterday afternoon from about 3:20 to 6:00 I birded Nickerson Beach, Nassau 
County.  No Arctic Tern.  

Another birder was there for most of that time (whose name escapes me, sorry) 
and he too reported no luck, though he did say he saw a Roseate.  There was a 
Black Tern.
The flock of Common Terns was most numerous at 3:20 and slowly decreased.  Not 
sure if this is a tidal effect or what.
Bob Lewis 
Sleepy Hollow NY

  From: syschiff icte...@optonline.net
 To: NYSBIRDS_L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 5:13 PM
 Subject: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach ARCTIC TERN
   
 Hi all, As an addition to my earlier post I am attaching the following.  
Suspect ARCTIC TERN  confirmed by expert. 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach ARCTIC TERN, no

[Felipe Pimentel]

I got a picture of the bird (posted today in New York Birders-Facebook) and the 
identification of the Roseate was confirmed. I did not find for the Arctic tern 
either but terns don’t stay on the dunes or the shore. The Black tern went out 
to sea around 4:30pm (I guess to fish) and returned around 6:30PM. There were a 
significant number of birders (and bird photographers) at that time looking for 
the uncommon terns. 

Felipe Pimentel

On Jun 11, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Robert Lewis rfer...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Yesterday afternoon from about 3:20 to 6:00 I birded Nickerson Beach, Nassau 
 County.  No Arctic Tern.  
 
 Another birder was there for most of that time (whose name escapes me, sorry) 
 and he too reported no luck, though he did say he saw a Roseate.  There was a 
 Black Tern.
 
 The flock of Common Terns was most numerous at 3:20 and slowly decreased.  
 Not sure if this is a tidal effect or what.
 
 Bob Lewis 
 Sleepy Hollow NY
 
 From: syschiff icte...@optonline.net
 To: NYSBIRDS_L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 5:13 PM
 Subject: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach ARCTIC TERN
 
 Hi all,
  
 As an addition to my earlier post I am attaching the following.  Suspect 
 ARCTIC TERN  confirmed by expert.
  
 Sy.
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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach ARCTIC TERN

[syschiff]

Hi all,

As an addition to my earlier post I am attaching the following.  Suspect ARCTIC 
TERN  confirmed by expert.

Sy.
---

Hey Bob and Sy,

Yes, that's a first-summer Arctic Tern! Nice.

Best,
Shai

From: Bob Anderson [park...@optonline.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 3:45 PM
To: Shaibal Mitra
Subject: Possible Arctic Tern at Nickerson 5/9/15

Shai,

Sy Schiff asked me to forward to you these pictures for your thoughts.

Bob Anderson



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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach

[syschiff]

Nickerson Beach 9 July

A group of us had a productive morning for terns. COMMON, ROSEATE, GULL-BILLED, 
BLACK and ROYAL. Also, there were a number of first summer Common Terns, quite 
rare and interesting to view.

In addition, a first year tern with short legs that hinted at ARCTIC TERN was 
on the beach.  This one was photographed from a great distance and is under 
review before seeking advice.

FYI.  They have not started charging to visit Nickerson Beach during the week, 
so it's free (probably till July 4th. Don't have the weekend schedule)

Sy Schiff

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach

[syschiff]

Nickerson Beach 9 July

A group of us had a productive morning for terns. COMMON, ROSEATE, GULL-BILLED, 
BLACK and ROYAL. Also, there were a number of first summer Common Terns, quite 
rare and interesting to view.

In addition, a first year tern with short legs that hinted at ARCTIC TERN was 
on the beach.  This one was photographed from a great distance and is under 
review before seeking advice.

FYI.  They have not started charging to visit Nickerson Beach during the week, 
so it's free (probably till July 4th. Don't have the weekend schedule)

Sy Schiff

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach ARCTIC TERN

[syschiff]

Hi all,

As an addition to my earlier post I am attaching the following.  Suspect ARCTIC 
TERN  confirmed by expert.

Sy.
---

Hey Bob and Sy,

Yes, that's a first-summer Arctic Tern! Nice.

Best,
Shai

From: Bob Anderson [park...@optonline.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 3:45 PM
To: Shaibal Mitra
Subject: Possible Arctic Tern at Nickerson 5/9/15

Shai,

Sy Schiff asked me to forward to you these pictures for your thoughts.

Bob Anderson



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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach 6:15am-7:30am

[Diana Teta]

Bustling   activity with accompanying  sound track:  Skimmers,
Oystercatchers and chicks, Common Terns, gulls, a Piping Plover, fishermen,
photographers, staff in green shirts.

Then like a rabbit pulled from a Magician's hat, suddenly among many
preening and roosting terns in the wrack line   a Gull-Billed Tern.

Applause,  exit stage left.

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Long Island, NY


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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach 6:15am-7:30am

[Diana Teta]

Bustling   activity with accompanying  sound track:  Skimmers,
Oystercatchers and chicks, Common Terns, gulls, a Piping Plover, fishermen,
photographers, staff in green shirts.

Then like a rabbit pulled from a Magician's hat, suddenly among many
preening and roosting terns in the wrack line   a Gull-Billed Tern.

Applause,  exit stage left.

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Long Island, NY


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Re:[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach Piping Plover and Gull-billed Tern: yes

[Avery Scott (SkyOfBirds)]

Also, add very large quantities of Black Skimmers to the list.


On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Avery Scott (SkyOfBirds) <
wingedwond...@scottopia.com> wrote:

> I saw both the Gull-billed Tern and Piping Plover (on nest) that had been
> previously reported at Nickerson today. Also present were Laughing Gull,
> Greater Black-backed Gull, Osprey, American Oystercatcher (with chicks),
> Common Terns (in colony) and almost certain Glossy Ibis, though it didn't
> stick around long enough for a positive ID. Some Boat-tailed Grackles were
> there too.
>
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>
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