Adrian : This could be one option we present, but I'm not sure why
you'd want to separate the authoring and browsing environment.
Andre : I don't.
Alain : Agreed. That's one the reasons that HyperCard was so great.
Andre : I want a lower level tool that basically lets the user access
Uli : ... it could serve as a wish list for HC 3 which we can send to
Apple
Alain : Are you still clinging to this hope ?
Uli : ... among others. It's a dim light, but I won't give up trying to
turn around Apple until they officially declare HC dead.
Alain : What will you do if HC3
Uli : The below mentioned are nominated assuming acceptance of their
nomination:
Collaboration
President: Alain Farmer
Alain : I accept the nomination. Thank you for nominating me, Uli.
_
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com
Uli : The below mentioned are nominated assuming
acceptance of their nomination:
Alain : I accept the nomination. Thank you for
nominating me, Uli.
DeRobertis : Ummm... except I did that Alain, you're not up late
enough g.
Alain : So ... It's ... euh ... UNANIMOUS then !!! ;-)
Peter Meyer : Is there a digest format of the list available? Its
good to see all of the activity, but hard to keep it sorted in my
mailbox
Alain : Not yet. Volunteers anyone ?
Someone : I would prefer the GNU "copyleft" form, as it protects our
interests fully, and it ensures that OpenCard and it's derivatives stay
OpenSource.
Alain : A very laudable goal. We want OpenCard and its derivatives to
remain forever OpenSource. For me, the term "derivative" denotes a
Adrian : I have noticed of late, that there are many quotes from
people's email attributed to "someone" ...
Alain : I do that when I am not sure who wrote the passage ...
Adrian : or worse still, the wrong person.
Alain : ... in order to avoid mis-quoting someone.
Adrian : Perhaps the
Rob Cozens : I can't describe a specific case off the top of my head,
but I recall more than one occasion when it seemed to me what I wanted
to accomplish in HyperTalk could have best been implemented by adding
new commands/syntax to the interpreter itself rather than MickeyMouse
an Xthing
Such proceeds could go towards webservers, domain names,
development resources, advertising, etc.
Andr Spierings : I think we should be careful trying to get any
money out of OpenCard. I know it would help, but I would hate to see
greed and advertising take over OpenCard.
Alain : Rest
Someone : How are we planning to vote? Should we email one person,
email the list, or write a cgi to handle it
Alain : I could whip up a voting CGI in a flash, a CGI quite similar to
the one that has been hosting the Save-HyperCard Petition which,
incidentally, now has 786 signatures.
Someone :
Julian blackhirst : The way i see it we should first design the
language.
Alain : You're probably right.
Julian blackhirst : I think the whole thing should be programmable.
Alain : You're absolutely right.
Julian blackhirst : ... for instance. Instead of having a button
called "a" on
DeRobertis : The JITC is now officialy time tested.
Alain : I am glad to see that things progressed during my "absence".
DeRobertis : And quite frankly, without say another 4 months of work,
it's not going to beat the interpreter (which is already quite fast)
Note only that, it takes six min.
DeRobertis : Scott, if you don't want to put in a
bunch of controls, that's fine with me. We're only
trying to protect your software. However, I'm not
sure if we could get 25% of the group to vote for,
say, even Alain, Uli, Adrian, or me.
Scott : I don't really have any idea of how to
Tim Bates : On the HyperCard list when discussing QTML, many people
noted that what we want is not HyperCard, but hypertalk, the ability
to speak English about objects.
Alain : Where I am concerned, you're absolutely right, Tim. It's
HyperTalk that has made me a HyperCard loyalist. And it's
Michael Fair : ... (since) we are discussing choosing a leader for the
group ...
Alain : The leadership thing is mainly about assigning one person to
organize and galvanize the action of the part that this person is
"responsible" for. It insures that things will steadily progress
despite the
Adrian: Yes, the leader should only exercise their
power when necessary, most things should go by the
way of direct democracy.
Anthony: Or on little things. Things such as making
minor bugfixes to the code, checking in other's
bugfixes, rejecting buggy code (or worse, stuff that
does
Anthony: Improper output from the CGI.
Alain : Clarify what you mean by "improper". Are you getting the
all-too-frequent "Document Contains No Data" message ?
Anthony: Possibly screwed up headers.
Alain : Depends on what protocol and software that you are using. For
instance, CGI programs
Alain : (1) Will members be able to resell OpenCard
on CDROM, as-is, making money by selling the
convience of not having to download it ?
Anthony: I'd say yes. That's what "free software"
means, after all.
Alain : Agreed.
Alain : (2) Or will they bundle some other stuff
with it to add
Kurt Kaufman : I'm new to this list ...
Alain : Welcome Kurt.
Kurt Kaufman : ...and am wondering where I might find some information
concerning the purpose and goals of the "OpenTalk" project, and some
specifics as to how the project is to be created.
Alain : For now, everything is informal.
Adrian: I have finished the voting cgi (except
for properly handling non-ascii chars and without
some features I'll add later) ...
Alain : Good progress.
Adrian : ... however when using Quid Pro Quo and
Netscape Communicator 4.51, a couple of the pages
give "The document contains no
If I recall correctly, there was some earlier
discussion about targeting a vote for 8 May. I will
be leaving for SoCal at 6:00AM PDT tomorrow, and
won't return until late Tuesday (the 12th). I won't
be checking mail while I'm away.
Alain : What shall we do about situations like these, in
Anthony: For say $20, one could get an OpenCard
"suite" that would have stacks for certain tasks
included. Yes, one could go download the stacks, but
then one would have to find them first. And we all
know that finding time+downloading time over a modem
can be quite long.
Alain : You're
Michael Fair : In my searching for this list I was looking for
references to OpenCard and OpenTalk. I eventually discovered that
OpenTalk is a registered trademark of someone else.
Alain : We aware of the fact that OpenCard is a registered name. I have
taken to calling it OODL instead.
Michael
Anthony: I'd not want to be the one responsible for
the security of that system. Or, for that matter, the
reliability.
Alain : As I admitted previously, this scheme would indeed be somewhat
risky. But the benefits far outweigh the risks, in my opinion.
Anthony: A more sensible approach
Michael Fair : What is the collaboration piece?
Alain : To achieve our aim to have a new HyperCard-like program
(OpenCard), with a insanely easy but powerful scripting language
(xTalk), fully-equipped with pre-scripted end-user solutions and
development tools (UFP) ... to achieve all of this,
Alain : Yes, I know. What I meant to convey is :
why should one use the news protocol if one already
has electronic mail ? What advantages does one gain
by using news instead of Email ?
Anthony: The ability to quickly and effortlessly loose massive
quantities of messages to the Gremlins
Michael Fair : Apache, Linux, and Perl are state of
the art today, but they are not the ultimate future.
Alain : So the Dweebs are not taking over then ???
Michael Fair : Without going into a religous war
about it, the MacOS isn't going anywhere for a while
and any mac-specific tools
. Contact me by E-mail for your account and password for the FTP
access. Suggestions are more than welcome.
Anthony : Alain is supposed to do such a thing ...
We'll see when he does.
Alain : Done!
Alain Farmer
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
_
Do
Anthony : Alain, any chance of getting read/write
access instead of read-only access for password-
authenticated users? I logged in with the userid/
password you gave me and can't upload anything...
Alain : You must log in as an authenticated to get read and WRITE
access. Only guests are
Alain : I believe that the collaborative aspects are
the most important for the success and long-term
viability of this team effort. Without a solid
infrastructure and some shared freely-agreed-upon
rules, our best efforts might be sabotaged by various
conflicts. The licencing issue,
Alain : We might also want to consider a clause that
prohibits certains uses that would be prejudicial to
our reputations, and so on. It might seem a little bit
odd to bring this up, but it is a standard part of an
author's rights.
Anthony : Please define... I'm not sure what you mean.
ut being handicapped by the
technologies. And I make money doing this. Is this altruism or not?
Regards
Alain Farmer
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
_
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Alain : I can relate, Uli. I have been using Yahoo
mail since the Incident, and still am (despite
Anthony's recent assistance).
Anthony : What happened with my attempts?
Alain : Well, I did exactly as you suggested in your mail. When I chose
a route for outgoing messages (mailing list, for
Anthony : Please head over to
http://ufp.uqam.ca/OpenCard/BugTracker/bug.cgi and
see what I put together. It could be quite helpful
to us in the future.
Alain : Good work. But please notify me next time, though, when you're
installing "dangerous" stuff like a alpha release of a CGI written
SPECIAL NOTE : Below are my counter-arguments in the context of an
on-going debate on Altruism. This has little to do with OpenCard
development, but it becomes somewhat relevant where OODL and
OC-licencing are concerned. And because so many have responded too.
Anthony : Yep. With communism, you
Rob Cozens : As I review the various license provisions and follow the
accompanying discussion, it seems to me there is one basic issue left
unaddressed: What legal entity will issue the OC license? A group of
individual contributors, a non-profit corporation, or ??.
Alain : What did the Perl
Alain : OK, but we probably don't want to develop everything as
plugins. OC would be slow and a hassle to maintain. My web users detest
downloading, installing and configuring plugins, expecially if all of
this has to be done frequently.
Uli : Alain, this won't be a problem. I think Michael was
Uli : There are few people which are interested in C++ source code,
especially among the users of a product like OpenCard.
Alain : You're absolutely right. There are even some of its developers,
like myself, that have no interest in C source code. The goal of
OpenCard, as it was for its
Alain : No one has commented yet on my suggestion to
reserve the right of OC distribution/resale for us, so
that we can auto-finance our activities. Comments?
Alain : The situation I spoke of (above) has since been rectified. Most
members have responded to it.
Michael Fair : I think we would
Alain : ... they could also make contributions so that
their expertise is recognized, so that eventually they
could be hired for that expertise. We will no doubt do
this informally (as I have already) but we could also
network ourselves for the purpose of obtaining
contracts or some needed
Below are excerpts of the Perl Artistic Licence (PERL)
and my corresponding comments (Alain) below each one of these excerpts.
PERL: The "Perl Artistic License"
Alain: The "OpenCard (OC) Licence"
PERL: The intent of this document is to state the conditions under
which the Perl Package may be
Mark Rauterkus: Can another list be formed to talk
only about the license issues?
Anthony: But then we'd have nothing to talk about here g.
Alain: The licencing issue has indeed gotten a lot of coverage lately.
This is as it should be given the importance of this sensitive issue.
But :
Alain:
for the length.
Alain Farmer
_
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
PERL: "Copyright Holder" is whoever is named in the copyright or
copyrights for the Perl package.
Alain: We haven't worked this one out yet. Can we collectively be
designated as the Copyright Holder, without incorporating ourselves?
Anthony: Any lawyers around?
Geoff Canyon: My wife is not a
and, consequently, they will not
participate any more than they have to date? My hope is the former. But
if they don't, they don't, and they will have to accept the decisions
taken without their participation by those that chose to get involved.
Regards
Alain Farmer
Alain: We have a problem here though. It will be difficult to attribute
a precise author for work done collectively. Who gets mentionned? In
what order? If a hundred people participated, do they all get cited?
If, instead, we decide to declare that OODL is the Copyright Holder,
nothing is solved
Uli: Hi folks, just thought for completeness' sake I'll throw this in
also. It sounds pretty close to what we want...
Alain: Yet another licence! ;-)
Uli: ...although I'm not sure we want to restrict distribution of an
OpenCard clone that sets out to replace OpenCard. I think we should
allow
Alain: YES and no. There could be some bickering. A
difference of opinion concerning the importance of the
contribution made by someone that wishes to be cited
as one of the authors.
Anthony: Alain, in that event we would have the list decide on what to
do.
Alain: OK, but what kind of
Alain: OK, but what kind of decision-making process are
you envisionning? A voting CGI in order to establish
the opinion of the majority and act accordingly? This
could lead to Majority-Rule. Bottom-line is that we are
going to have to discuss the (political) issue of
decision-making, as
Adrian: Hi all, I'm back, but only in digest version for now (reduces
the amount of bouncing mail).
Alain: Welcome back, Adrian.
Adrian: Having taken some time to sit back and see how we are working
together without being a part of it has revealed some very worrying
things.
Alain: I am not
From: DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OODL - Politics - Re Adrian
Reply-to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alain: Consensus is my choice as well. Some people dont
believe in it, but the difficulties of voting as the
arbitrator of our decisions may very well persuade
those "non-believers" to climb
CLIP
*** LOS ANGELES, 19 July, 1999 ***
Fourth World announced today a strategic alliance with DevHQ to deliver
its popular line of SuperCard tools for free to the Open Source
community. Both source code and compiled externals ...
**
/CLIP
Anthony:
Mark Rauterkus : Richard G's news of OPEN source seemed wonderful.
Alain: Now that I caught on to the fact that we are talking about
externals and stacks, instead of SuperCard as I had original feared, I
am reassured.
Mark Rauterkus : Did you see it?
Alain: Yup!
Mark Rauterkus : What do you
!
Aloha
Alain Farmer
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
P.S.: Of course this means that I won't be responding to my Email this
week, eh!
_
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Alain: There are many ways to arrive at a consensus,
particularly if everyone participating in the
consensus-building process are reasonable and are thus
prepared to make some compromises in order to achieve
the goals of the group.
Anthony: If I am right and you believe the opposite of what
I just thought that I would write to you all today, for the following
reasons :
1. There has not been much mail lately ;
2. I wanted you to know that I am reading all of my mail, considering
everything that is being written, and replying when really necessary. I
guess you could say that I am
Adrian: I'm finally on holidays and have found time
...
Alain: I currently have some "free" time as well.
Adrian : ... to make the few small changes needed to
complete the Voting CGI and it is now ready.
Alain: Excellent! On the other hand, I am little bit
worried that your CGI will not work
Adrian: Lets get this project moving again (or visibly
moving anyway...
Alain: The collaboration infrastructure will be quite
visible and, more importantly, it will scaffold our
efforts and discussions.
Adrian: ...there's probably work being done on the
code that I know nothing about).
Alain:
This is definitely possible with Quid Pro Quo (which
is also free), I think Alain is using NetPresenz.
I'd say there's a way to do it with it as well. If
not, it wouldn't take much to swap if Alain thought
it
was important. It's his call though (obviously).
Alain responds :
1. I am
Alain: I hear Apache is good
but I haven't migrated to MacOS-X yet.
Anthony: ... you could always use LinuxPPC.
Alain: Does LinuxPPC require MacOS-X ?
Alain: Does LinuxPPC run with MacOS 8.6.1 or 9 ?
Alain: Is LinuxPPC palatable to someone brought up
with the MacOS? Is it as dweeby as
Adrian: QPQ does not do FTP. NetPresenz is currently
the only free FTP server capable of uploads accounts
that I have found.
MP0werd: here's an idea, run both!
Alain: NetPresenz, by itself, provides HTTP and FTP.
Thus, a compelling reason for using QPQ must be
provided, in order to avoid
Anthony: ... you could always use LinuxPPC.
Alain: Does LinuxPPC require MacOS-X ?
MP0werd: No. It's not OS dependent, it's a completely
different OS.
Alain: Just to be sure that I understand, you are
saying that I can run an entirely different OS with my
PowerMac G3. Is that the case?
I sometimes fantasize (for lack of a better word)
about creating my very own web-server software ...
and a much better web client too! But then reality
hits me like a ton of bricks. The design, the
programming, etc, ... but also getting the thing
adopted by the public at large. If there
Alain: Just to be sure that I understand, you are
saying that I can run an entirely different OS with
my PowerMac G3. Is that the case?
MP0werd: Yes!
Alain: That's good because I don't want to buy PC
hardware, that's for sure.
Alain: Were you quite familiar with UNIX?
MP0werd: Not really,
eric-engle: Hi!
Alain: Welcome aboard!
eric-engle: I am a doctoral student in law in France.
I already have a US law degree.
Alain: Splendid! You are just the person we have been
looking for. We are in the midst of debating different
licencing schemes, but none of us have any formal
legal
Alain: Concerning what you sort of cited below, did
you adapt these words from the Bible, or was it old
Moody Blues music? If the latter, I share your taste
in music, Eric.
For i have heard the words of the prophet!
AND HE IS HYPER!!!
And verily, I have bitten into the apple of
knowledge!
régler la
problématique des licences. C'est le gros bon sens, et
le PDG de MetaCard nous impose ces conditions de toute
facon.
Salutations
Alain Farmer
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
=
__
Do You Yahoo!?
Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Eric Engle: Like I said, law is common sense.
Alain: If you say so!
Eric Engle: A contract can be express or implied by
the facts.
Alain: The implied is not as binding as the expressed,
right?
Eric Engle: Be sure and tell any code writer that the
project is not for profit. As long as they
Alain: This is not urgent, Eric, but since you sent us
material on trade secrets, patents, and copyright, I
figured we would complete our survey of relevant law
by including some statements recently posted to this
list about trademarks (below). Could you set the
record straight for us, Eric?
Eric: An express or implied contract is equally valid
(enforceable). Judges are reluctant to imply
contracts, but do so when the facts support it. So you
are always better to be explicit - i.e. when in doubt
say it in writing.
Alain: I thought so.
Eric: Regarding MetaCard: I assume MC will not
I have a folder entitled PNFIconGraphics
at several locations in the web server's hierarchy.
1. Who installed them ?
2. What is their purpose ?
3. Do you really need more than one ?
This is not urgent, but I try to keep a tidy ship.
Alain
List-mommy
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
=
Eric: I agree that whatever name is chosen should
'link' to HC, but if it could also link to www so much
the better.
Alain: Agreed on both counts. I will nonetheless put
up a page of naming-guidelines that members of our
group will be able to vote on.
Eric: (since, i think the HC interface
Julian Blackhirst: Here are some names i came up with:
AuthorCard, HyperBuilder, RapidCard, UniCard,
MultimediaCard, RebelCard, FreedomCard, HarmonyCard,
HyperStack, StudioCard, PaxCard, HyperDev, MaxCard,
WildCard, WildMedia
Alain: Thank you Julian. Your name suggestions have
been added to our
Uli and DeRobertis : Make another backup ... Maybe
send one to Alain's server -- geographical diversity
can't hurt, either.
Alain: Definitely. The UFP server is an ideal location
for a backup copy of anything related to our OpenKard
initiative. Not to mention that, once it is on the UFP
server,
DeRobertis: Why would we want XML?
Alain: While it is always hazardous to predict what is
going to happen, I am nonetheless sure that XML is the
future of the Web. Content will no longer be limited
to strings of chars. With XML, Web content will be
marked up semantically. No more searches that
Julian Blackhirst : A while back i critisised MetaCard
for talking about their product on the HC mailing list
and said it was just like advertising. I dont want to
become a hypercrit and do that on this list.
Alain: This SPAM issue surfaces regularly in many
lists. It is legitimately a sensitive
Alain : I suppose that the ideal programming language
would then be Java, so as to make it multi-platform ..
Michael Fair : The Java language itself isn't what
makes it cross-platform. It's the Java Bytecodes that
the JVM then interprets which gives it's
cross-platform-ness.
Alain: Yes, I know
Uli : Anyway, you're probably right. That you have
these bad associations is proof enough to me that
others might have them, too, so we'd better settle for
another one.
Alain: We have been out-voted, eh!
Uli: Still, here's my list of new ones that I like:
Joker (it's a "wildcard")
Cardz
DeRobertis: ... I'm trying to finish ResCraft ...
Alain: Any recent news concerning ResCraft?
=
__
Do You Yahoo!?
Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Alain: Yes, I know that it is not the Java language
Micheal: I figured you did.
Alain: It is always good to make sure.
Micheal: It wasn't your particular email that prompted
me to say anything either, it was the general
direction of the conversation.
Alain: I have a tendency to be quite
I have noticed for some time now that we seem to have
entirely given up on the idea of using relevant
subject headings in the messages that we post to our
list.
So please try to remember to use subject-headings that
really reflect the content of your message.
If your reply changes the subject
Eric: Because some people will have different levels
of commitment and interest. Also metaCard might not
want to distribute its engine to everyone? (Scott?).
We can work out ways for this to be interesting to
metaCard as a charitable deduction, and I am happy to
do the research needed on that.
Uli: Folks, we completely forgot about the name
"Liberty" !
Alain: It has now been added to the list:
http://ufp.uqam.ca/OpenCard/OpenKardNames.html
Cheers
=
__
Do You Yahoo!?
Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
1. If a clear winner does not emerge from this first
voting round, then I suggest that we eliminate the
alternatives that are the least chosen. Several rounds
later we will have the only the cream of the crop
leftover.
2. Some of the names in the list could be used as a
name of our organization
Eric: So, at least from an aesthetic/artistic
perspective, i guess i volunteer to start doing some
artsy craftsy stuff - would that be useful or
desirable?
Alain: Yes, it would indeed.
Eric: I am assuming i can edit dialogue boxes using
resEdit (which i am not sure of since all MC dialogue
You get around the "no business purpose"
(necessary to prevent liability) by later
forming other partnerships among yourselves.
Alain: We cannot collectively do anything commercial,
but partners can form commercial ventures on their
own. That's is what you are suggesting, right?
That is, by
Alain: Consensus is not the equivalent of Unanimity.
In my opinion, a consensus is quite similar to a
majority except that dissenting views and other
concerns of minorities are taken into account in
the final decision. A consensus is thus the best
(majority) compromise ... [cutting Alain
Mark: How about if we get .. a person to fill the role
of FAQ-Clerk? This person will be the
writer/keeper/editor for the official FAQs that are
associated with this endeavor. It could be sorta like
a secretary.
Alain: Good idea. Any volunteers?
Mark: The archives are great, but we need to make
Uli: Mark, everything has its time and place, and at
this time, this list is the place for licence
discussions.
Alain: Yup!
Uli: I think having an FAQ is a great idea.
Alain: Indeed!
Uli: I don't have much time at hand to do something
like this ... I can hardly keep working on my stuff
and
Eric: harrumph...legally speaking...there are no such
things as empty words harumph
Alain: It just seems that way to us non-lawyer types!
Eric: (:-]
Alain: What does this smiley mean?
Eric: Uli, this is in need of optimization. If 20
partners want more than 20 partners, they can have
more --
DeRobertis: I think we'd have to say that you can use
the source for any purpose OUTSIDE of the partnership
-- a fork (of organization, not code).
Eric: That is my understanding, but if I am wrong
please correct me - that we do not envision
restricting use or sale of source code by third
Alain: We cannot collectively do anything
commercial,
but partners can form commercial ventures on their
own. That's is what you are suggesting, right?
Eric: Yes
Alain: Will these commercial ventures contribute
anything to the coffers of the group so that we can
become self-financing?
Eric: Er, the partnership envisioned would be between
the persons who are working on this project.
Alain: Who are we? How many are we? Its early still.
Eric: Not with metaCard. With metaCard we would
(probably) enter, as a partnership into a contract.
Alain: Yes, I agree that MetaCard comes
Michael Fair: Using the GCC underlying architecture
will create licensing problems unless we reimplement
the whole shebang.
Alain: We must avoid licencing problems. What are they
in this case?
Michael Fair: Reimplementing the whole thing does not
sound like an inviting proposition, so I do not
Alain: We may want to put restrictions on the uses of
OpenKard and its derivatives, though. For example, do
we allow a company to make just enough modifications
to our source code (e.g. a fork) and scoop our entire
effort, and make a bundle with it?
Uli: I do not want someone to rip us off by
Alain: 1. If a clear winner does not emerge from
this
first voting round, then I suggest that we eliminate
the alternatives that are the least chosen. Several
rounds later we will have the only the cream of the
crop leftover.
Uli: So far it doesn't look as if this were happening.
Alain:
Anthony: Would it be possible to write in that no one
may form a contract on behalf of the partnership ...
Alain: Perhaps we could limit it to this (e.g. none).
Anthony: ...without the approval of the other
partners?
Alain: If we want to allow for the possibility of our
partnership to enter
Alain: It will be difficult to attribute a precise
author for work done collectively. Who gets
mentionned? In what order? If a hundred people
participated, do they all get cited? If, instead, we
decide to declare that OODL is the Copyright Holder,
nothing is solved either because the
Anthony: I believe they should be required to give a
non-exclusive, perpetual, irrevocable licence to use
the code, but that they should still retain their
rights to it. In other words, they should give up
control of how it is used by OpenCard but they should
still be allowed to use their code as
Alain: We may want to put restrictions on the uses
of OpenKard and its derivatives, though. For
example,
do we allow the hypothetical company that we will
name
MicroSloth to make just enough modifications to our
source code (e.g. a fork) and scoop our entire
effort, and make a bundle with
1 - 100 of 251 matches
Mail list logo
