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FYI.
Tim
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Subject: Motivational factors for open source development
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 08:15:19 +0200
From: Daniel Ericsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are two
Sorry for that. You would think after all these years
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Rob James wrote:
Sorry for that. You would think after all these years
*Stuff* happens
they put those two buttons too close together! vbg
Tim
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the fault, dear Brutus, lies not in the stars, but in ourselves.
Rob, this is your e-mail speaking: It is a far, far better thing that
I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go
to, than I have ever known...
On Thu, 11 May 2006 14:43:54 -0500
Rob James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the fault, dear Brutus, lies not in the stars, but in
On the bright sidewe aren't integrating webcams with email yet
Rob James wrote:
Sorry for that. You would think after all these years
.
Agile Journal from CM Crossroads - May 2006 - Vol. 1 No. 3 Read it online -
http://www.agilejournal.com
The Agile Journal is a new publication and online magazine from CMC Media
focused on providing readers with information and resources they need to
develop software for an agile business.
I can host the new website and mailing list for free. -- IV
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:43:39 +0800
Molly Cheah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear all,
I am happy to annouce that the transfer of the domain name oshca.org
from Brian had been completed. Brian is in the process of creating
and signing a
Hmmm It hadn't crossed my mind at all that discussions on the
suitability of the country for incorporation will be approached from
those perspectives mentioned. I thought we were approaching this issue
(developing vs developed countries) from the funding perspectives (not
mentioning
Thanks for the welcome, Bhaskar, and also the warm welcome (in every
sense of the word) I've received from many others.
Also, thank you for creating this list. The list software at
minoru-development.com was and is broken- you took the right step to
keep this incredible community conversation
Dear all,
I am happy to annouce that the transfer of the domain name oshca.org
from Brian had been completed. Brian is in the process of creating and
signing a document disclaiming rights to the OSHCA trademark. Thank you
Brian for these initiatives.
I understand that Brian will also make a
If you happen to be at the EclipseCon event or
just in the area,
you are invited to the f2f meeting of Eclipse OHF.
For those how are new to OHF (Open Healthcare Framework), it
is an open source runs as an Eclipse project.
The meeting will be at the NAPA
room, from 2 pm on Mon 23.
(At the
Mary Kratz had some real good comments about the value of a separate
organization (eg: OSHCA) vs working groups in existing ones (eg: IMIA
and AMIA) a few years ago. I'm hoping she will chime in here with an update.
-Brian
Horst Herb a écrit :
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:41, Brian Bray wrote:
Oz 2007 @ MedInfo?
Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
should have added to my previous note that. Oz in 07 would
be great!!!
Joseph
Adrian Midgley wrote:
On Sat, 2006-03-18 at 20:48 +1100, Horst Herb wrote:
I would volunteer to organize it in Australia - sure, it's a long
way from
OSHCA in Oz @ or before/after Medinfo 2007
Mary Kratz wrote:
Oz 2007 @ MedInfo?
Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
should have added to my previous note that. Oz in 07 would
be great!!!
Joseph
Adrian Midgley wrote:
On Sat, 2006-03-18 at 20:48 +1100, Horst Herb wrote:
I would
Tim,
Sorry didn't mean to dampen enthusiasm and imply that a satellite
conference in 2007 was impossible to pull offwhat I meant was that
in general you need operating capital to be able to pick where you want
to hold a meeting. In fact a satellite conference is preferable to
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 03:47, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
to hold a meeting. In fact a satellite conference is preferable to
imbedding a meeting in Medinfo because of the cost of registration. A
low risk strategy is to find a willing host that can provide the space
to meet and ideally food services
totally agree about the eggs
Tim.Churches wrote:
Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
Tim,
Sorry didn't mean to dampen enthusiasm and imply that a satellite
conference in 2007 was impossible to pull offwhat I meant was that
in general you need operating capital to be able to pick where
You should co-ordinate this with the IMIA working group on open source.
http://www.chirad.info/imiaoswg/
-Brian
Horst Herb a écrit :
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 03:47, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
to hold a meeting. In fact a satellite conference is preferable to
imbedding a meeting in Medinfo because
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:41, Brian Bray wrote:
You should co-ordinate this with the IMIA working group on open source.
http://www.chirad.info/imiaoswg/
Will do. Wasn't even aware they existed.
Any point in having both OSHCA and IMIA OS WG as separate entities?
Should we aim for a joint
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 03:34, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
Adrian, thanks for the smile and words of wisdom.hopefully it won't
be long before we have an opportunity to meet again. One of the first
things on the OSHCA agenda IMHO should be a conference. Every one we had
was unique and inspiring
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Horst Herb wrote:
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 03:34, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
Adrian, thanks for the smile and words of wisdom.hopefully it won't
be long before we have an opportunity to meet again. One of the first
things on the OSHCA agenda IMHO
On Sat, 2006-03-18 at 20:48 +1100, Horst Herb wrote:
I would volunteer to organize it in Australia - sure, it's a long way from
anywhere else, but it can be damn nice, it's safe, and it can be very cheap
too once the flight has been paid.
Australia between August 2006 and February 2007
should have added to my previous note that. Oz in 07 would
be great!!!
Joseph
Adrian Midgley wrote:
On Sat, 2006-03-18 at 20:48 +1100, Horst Herb wrote:
I would volunteer to organize it in Australia - sure, it's a long way from
anywhere else, but it can be damn nice, it's safe,
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 01:38, Tim Cook wrote:
Scheduling around MedInfo would be beneficial.
http://www.medinfo2007.org/
I would look forward to it and thanks for the offer to organize it.
Yes, 2 days before or after HISA would be good timing.
Would there be any more takers? If I am to organize
I forwarded it.darnI just realized that this thread is split
across two lists. We will have to cross post until unification occurs.
Joseph
Horst Herb wrote:
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 01:38, Tim Cook wrote:
Scheduling around MedInfo would be beneficial.
http://www.medinfo2007.org/
I would
James,
Here is a quick review of how past sponsorship of past events came about:
Meeting 1 - Rome - Bud Bruegger, one of the founders of OSHCA, was
working on an open source lab project for a joint FAO/IAEA initiative.
Bud's clients provided meeting space and refreshmentsattendees
Completely off topic and hence off list reply ...
thanks for the image.
I often talk about how management or a new manager
needs to pee on the bush (make his/her mark?) and
its best just to understand that the ancient ape stuff
needs to happen ...
Anyway, thanks for a morning smile.
Thank
Adrian, thanks for the smile and words of wisdom.hopefully it won't
be long before we have an opportunity to meet again. One of the first
things on the OSHCA agenda IMHO should be a conference. Every one we had
was unique and inspiring event and essential to community building
I whole-heartedly support combining the two lists and then a group-hug!
David
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:53:10 +0800
Molly Cheah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you Brian for this timely decision. I sincerely hope this will
be a start for a new era for the OSS in Healthcare Community. I have
Thank you Brian!
This is an excellent solution, and very timely as believe that we are
finally at a real tipping point in the adoption of the open source model
in the health sector. The existence of a community driven, professional
forum is critical to synergy, credibility and success for all
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Thank you, Brian.
What we need to do I think is to all have dinner together one day.
An academic and political programme is of course important, but so is
the ancient ape stuff.
In the absence of that large dinner, let us all behave as if we had been
to it, and thus had done the H. Sapiens
I hope the efforts to renew forums for open health discussions
succeeds. The lists are an important reseource for those of us doing IS
research on OS for healthcare. I've been lurking this list since I started
grad school and I joined the yahoo one to keep up with the community. I'm
currently
Brian,
If I recall correctly, the OpenHealth list hosted on Yahoo was started
because new people were unable to join the OpenHealth list hosted by
Minoru.
Could you please comment on whether this is still the case?
Thanks,
Andrew
On 3/15/06, Lorie Obal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hope the
Thanks everyone for the feedback.
I have a proposal that I've worked out with Molly Cheah, who is working
to incorporate the Open Source Health Care Alliance (OSHCA). Joseph Dal
Molin, Tim Cook, and Adrian Midgley were also involved.
The proposal is to form the Openhealth list at OSHCA.ORG
Thank you Brian for this timely decision. I sincerely hope this will be
a start for a new era for the OSS in Healthcare Community. I have
forwarded this e-mail to the Yahoo list for discussion. Many of you who
had not signed on the yahoo list may have missed out on the discussion
on the
I was able to subscribe a hotmail account, but there is a problem (see
below). I'm still coming up to speed on the list history while I was
away, so I'm not sure how long the problem existed. There have been a
few people (maybe half a dozen) who were unable to subscribe because of
Dear Brian,
Your reappearance here, long after the list became functionally useless
because new discussants couldn't succeed in joining, reminds me of my
great-grandfather.
He went off to fight for the Union in the American civil war, leaving
behind a general store, a wife, and children. They
Brian Bray wrote:
Tim Churches a écrit :
Hmmm, does Minoru plan to assert its trade mark against the Openhealth
list on Yahoo (see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/openhealth/ )?
I'm not expecting that I'll have to. It depends on the the other list
and my decisions over the next few weeks.
Tim Churches a écrit :
Hmmm, does Minoru plan to assert its trade mark against the Openhealth
list on Yahoo (see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/openhealth/ )?
I'm not expecting that I'll have to. It depends on the the other list
and my decisions over the next few weeks.
The way I see it,
Right you are about Marvin.
There are a million lists on the Internet and a lot of them have signs
of life, but there's only one Openhealth[tm] list.
Why are you here?
-Brian
Tim Churches a écrit :
Brian Bray wrote:
To quote Marvin the paranoid android (Red Dwarf) Life... don't talk to
On 3/10/06, Brian Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Denny and Aldric for the warm greeting.
There have certainly been some interesting discussions while I was gone.
(I'm just up to the end of 2003).
Hi Brian,
Welcome back!
I have a question for Andrew Ho. In the discussion about
Brian Bray wrote:
Right you are about Marvin.
There are a million lists on the Internet and a lot of them have signs
of life, but there's only one Openhealth[tm] list.
Hmmm, does Minoru plan to assert its trade mark against the Openhealth
list on Yahoo (see
Andrew Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Customizability is the main strength of OIO. It's main weakness is its installation! :-) The problem is the psycopgDA adaptor and the permissions having to be changed to postgres user. Can this compromise security? Zope 3 works with python 2.4 and the psycopgDA
Andrew Ho a écrit :
Completeness can never be assured without significantly restricting
customizability. For example, deleting the Gender question from an
existing form.
In certain contexts, some limits on customizability are needed for
safety reasons. Take a case worker with limited
There has never been an administrative interface. Just send a blank
message with unsubscribe as a subject to either the list or
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tim Churches a écrit :
I tried to unsubscribe from openhealth-list@minoru-development.com but
the administrative interface to the list has been
Brian Bray wrote:
There has never been an administrative interface. Just send a blank
message with unsubscribe as a subject to either the list or
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes, that's the administrative interface to which I was referring - you
know, it is like a command line interface, but via email,
Welcome back Brian! Sounds like you are doing a treasure hunt! Are you
still based in Paris?
David
Brian Bray wrote:
To quote Marvin the paranoid android (Red Dwarf) Life... don't talk
to me about life.
I'm catching up on my e-mail. Only 3500 more to go!
-Brian
Ignacio Valdes a écrit :
Thanks David,
I'm in Vancouver for the moment and I'm planning to move back here, but
it really depends on where my next project is.
-Brian
Dr. David Chan a écrit :
Welcome back Brian! Sounds like you are doing a treasure hunt! Are you
still based in Paris?
David
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Hi Brain,
I'm still out here.
Busy with work and life, and looking for another job.
Wendy,
What is your situation, what resources do you have, how many students etc?
Alric
Hi all.
-Brian
--
Never mind the part for Wnedy.
Thats for another list.
Alric
Hi Brain,
I'm still out here.
Busy with work and life, and looking for another job.
Wendy,
What is your situation, what resources do you have, how many students etc?
Alric
Hi all.
-Brian
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On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:19:09 +0100
Brian Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all.
-Brian
On 10 Mar, 2006, at 9:19, Brian Bray wrote:
Hi all.
-Brian
Welcome back, Brian
To quote Marvin the paranoid android (Red Dwarf) Life... don't talk to
me about life.
I'm catching up on my e-mail. Only 3500 more to go!
-Brian
Ignacio Valdes a écrit :
He LIVES! -- IV
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:19:09 +0100
Brian Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all.
-Brian
Thanks Denny and Aldric for the warm greeting.
There have certainly been some interesting discussions while I was gone.
(I'm just up to the end of 2003).
I have a question for Andrew Ho. In the discussion about Vista/OIO
complementarity, you discussed the concept that OIO let's users safely
Hi all.
-Brian
Hi,
I could not subscribe to the mailing list, so I'm sending directly...
Answering your question, I am a committer in the Eclipse OHF project.
Was there anything you wanted to know about it?
Regards,
Eishay
Re: Eclipse open health framework proposal
David Forslund
Tue, 29
On Jan 19, 10:57pm, openhealth-list@minoru-development.com wrote:
} Subject: Re: VOE and Linux efforts.
Good day to everyone, hope your week is starting out well.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the VOE sources seems to be largely locked up inside of the
Cache database on Windows
As I understand
Bhaskar,
I followed the link to mgateway but couldn't find anything that said any of
their software
is Open Source. It appears that you have to register to download and some kind
of key is
required to unlock it.
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 00:57 -0600, Jim Self wrote:
[KSB] ...snip...
Meanwhile, I
Jim --
I have not tried to download the software, but was informed about it by
one of the people behind MGateway. Possibly he did not appreciate the
difference between free software and Free software.
Did you try registering to download the software? What are the license
terms?
Regards
--
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 00:57 -0600, Jim Self wrote:
[KSB] ...snip...
Meanwhile, I have been thinking that it might not be too difficult to
skip the middle ware
and serve the HTTP and SOAP and/or JSON from M2Web.
[KSB] Jim, although this article
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the VOE sources seems to be largely locked up inside of the
Cache database on Windows
As I understand it, the VOE sources are standard MUMPS and the server will
therefore run
as well or better on GT.M/Linux as it will on Cache/Microsoft. I also
understand that VOE
is
Proposal so far
OSHCA Vision
OSCHA is a vehicle for people to meet face to face.
Mission??
Objectives???
Molly
p.s. Previously, OSHCA
The Open Source Health Care Alliance is a collaborative forum to
promote and facilitate open source software in human and veterinary
healthcare.
Good afternoon to everyone, hope the end of the week is going well for
you.
I'm working with a group to study the feasibility of deploying Linux
based VOE, if and when it arrives, in our region. We are a rural area
and this may be an excellent opportunity for assisting regional
healthcare as
Hi everyone,
I must apologise for the lapse in time following the flurry of
discussion during the month of November 2005 just before the WSIS in
Tunis on the ressurection of OSHCA. I was prompted by Joseph to see if I
had recovered from the trip. There was so much to do as follow-up to
such
Original Message
Subject: Help request
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 20:23:57 +
From: Álvaro Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear colleagues,
A student of mine will begin as soon as possible a research about
information systems impact on health organisations and professionals
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 07:04:58PM +, Adrian Midgley wrote:
On Sat, 2005-12-17 at 10:35 -0700, Dr. Matthew Roller wrote:
Are you saying to install GNUmed and use it to connect to your
database?
Yes, that'd be the idea. We set up a public database
precisely so that people can test the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do any of you know anything about Oacis (Open Architecture Clinical
Information System) by DINMAR, a Sun Microsystems technology partner?
Do you mean OACIS in South Australia? See
http://www.health.sa.gov.au/oacisprogramme/DesktopDefault.aspx
If so, I been to a few
Tim Churches wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do any of you know anything about Oacis (Open Architecture Clinical
Information System) by DINMAR, a Sun Microsystems technology partner?
Do you mean OACIS in South Australia? See
http://www.health.sa.gov.au/oacisprogramme/DesktopDefault.aspx
Hi,
Just thought I'd pipe in here as I met these guys in Toronto a couple
months ago for a job interview.
From what I gathered ...
- they seem very much tied with Sun on their efforts -- new research
centre co-funded by Sun
- OACIS runs on Unix platform, includes Clinical Data Repository
Do any of you know anything about Oacis (Open Architecture Clinical
Information System) by DINMAR, a Sun Microsystems technology partner?
On Sat, 2005-12-17 at 10:35 -0700, Dr. Matthew Roller wrote:
Are you saying to install GNUmed and use it to connect to your
database?
That would be the thing to do.
I'm having a look at 0.1 release of Gnumed at present, but using a
different server.
I'm fascinated to see how this project
Karsten Hilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 09:47:17PM -0600, Ignacio Valdes wrote: Active projects: FreeMed, ClearHealth, OpenEMR, VistA, OSCAR, SQLclinic I'm sure I've left some out. -- IVYes, GNUmed.Yes and it is apt-gettable. NandalalKarsten-- GPG key ID E4071346
Hi all,
I can also recommend strongly the openSDE
project from Erasmus University Medical Informatics group. It is by far the
best structured data entry tool for clinical medicine and is distributed with the
GNU Lesser Public license so that it can be integrated with propriety systems
Sorry the URLs for projects should be:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/opensde
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pathos-web
-koray
Hi all,
I can also recommend strongly the openSDE
project from Erasmus University Medical Informatics group. It is by far the
best structured data entry tool for clinical medicine and is distributed with
the GNU Lesser Public license so that it can be integrated with propriety
systems
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 02:06:37AM -0800, Nandalal Gunaratne wrote:
Yes, GNUmed.
Yes and it is apt-gettable.
Sure is ! :-)
For testing it out use the public server at server2.gnotary.de.
DB: gnumed_v1
user: any-doc
pw: any-doc
port: 5432 (standard)
Or else bootstrap your own local server
Are you saying to install GNUmed and use it to connect to your
database? because going to that site with the web browser brings up
your apache test page, not knowing GNUmed's model, we need a little
more instruction on how to use your testing server.
On 12/17/05, Karsten Hilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 10:35:22AM -0700, Dr. Matthew Roller wrote:
Are you saying to install GNUmed and use it to connect to your
database?
Yes. Install any of the available 0.1 packages (Scrollkeeper
release), for example the apt-gettable Debian ones. They are
preconfigured to allow selection
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 09:47:17PM -0600, Ignacio Valdes wrote:
Active projects: FreeMed, ClearHealth, OpenEMR, VistA, OSCAR,
SQLclinic I'm sure I've left some out. -- IV
Yes, GNUmed.
Karsten
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Also OpenEMed
Dave
Karsten Hilbert wrote:
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 09:47:17PM -0600, Ignacio Valdes wrote:
Active projects: FreeMed, ClearHealth, OpenEMR, VistA, OSCAR,
SQLclinic I'm sure I've left some out. -- IV
Yes, GNUmed.
Karsten
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Dave,
I thought OpenEMed was middleware and not an application per se
could you tell us more about your clinical/administrative functionality?
Joseph
David Forslund wrote:
Also OpenEMed
Dave
Karsten Hilbert wrote:
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 09:47:17PM -0600, Ignacio Valdes wrote:
Well it is built around middleware but supports a fully customizable
clinical functionality. It isn't that much oriented (at this time) to
administrative functions, but using XML templates can support just about
any clinical information. Because of its customizability, it isn't a
turn-key
Heitzso wrote:
Anyone know the current status of open source small practice
management programs? Or what web sites that monitor open
source health programs are current?
Try http://europa.eu.int/idabc/en/chapter/5730
and http://sls.netpatia.com/?q=taxonomy/term/5
J. Antas
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:33:03 -0500
Heitzso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone know the current status of open source small practice
management programs? Or what web sites that monitor open
source health programs are current?
Thanks,
Heitzso
Linux Medical News frequently has project
Anyone know the current status of open source small practice
management programs? Or what web sites that monitor open
source health programs are current?
Thanks,
Heitzso
You may try at SourceForge.net.
We have some projects running there.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/deardr
http://sourceforge.net/projects/saukhyalite
http://sourceforge.net/projects/medistore
http://sourceforge.net/projects/labrep
Note that they are actually developed as per Indian needs
http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/eclipse-ohf/main.php
anyone involved?
yet.
--
Adrian Midgley
Exeter www.defoam.net
I was invited earlier, but was unable to join the initial meeting which
set this up. I may yet join
the effort.
Dave
Adrian Midgley wrote:
http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/eclipse-ohf/main.php
anyone involved?
yet.
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Hi Molly!
I'll be in TUNIS and would love to see OSHCA get together! Will look for you
at the exhibit sited below.
Best,
Mary
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From: Molly Cheah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, November 8, 2005 3:48 am
Subject: WSIS Tunis
Hi!
It's almost 2 years since we
Looks like there will be strong representations from the US
universities. Based on the Sharing the Future Joint Initiative of UNDP
Pavilion activiies, MIT and Harvard are presenting with briefing
sessions on the MIT100$ laptop and workshop on Roadmap for Open ICT
Ecosystems. Which activities
Hi!
It's almost 2 years since we last annnouced on this list about meeting
up of those who were attending WSIS Geneva Phase. I will be attending
the WSIS Tunis Phase from 13th November till 20th November. I am
wondering if anyone else from this list is going to be there so that we
can meet?
I would like to invite any of you with software development, project
management, training, OR business consulting experience to submit your
vitae/resume to be included in Cognition's open roster. I am also
interested in hearing from scientists and those with advanced degrees
who are currently
--- Ignacio Valdes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's a remarkably good article called: Barriers
to Proliferation of
Electronic Medical Records by some guy named Valdes.
It is a very good article, and I am happy to say I
know this guy from a mailing list.
Nandalal
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