Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009, Joerg Schilling wrote: casper@sun.com wrote: For some time I had gtar as my tar but it was broken too often (it doesn't properly unpack certain archives I encountered) A serious problem with GNU tar is that it is unreliable and in a signficant number of cases is unable to read back it's own archives. I've 'heard' you say that on a number of occasions... I've been using gnu tar for about 15 years or so, on everything from FreeBSD to IBM AIX, and I've never had the problems you mention. If so, then I think it would be best to find the top 5-10 most requested GNU userland features (e.g. tar z) and implement them in the Solaris userland ASAP. This would give almost guaranteed 100% backwards compatibility with previous Solaris versions and good enough compatibility with Linux. Roughly at the same time as GNU tar introduced -z, star introduced auto-decompression. Why do you like to know about this detail if the tar implementation could to this for you automagically based on the compression header magic numbers? This has always annoyed me too (need for -z or -j in gtar). But I guess the option(s) would still be needed in order to create a compressed tar file anyway. -- Happy cheese in fear | Jon Trulson against oppressor, rebel!| mailto:j...@radscan.com Brocolli, hostage. -Unknown| 4E2A 697F 66D6 7918 B684 | FEB6 4E98 16C1 25F8 A291 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] A stupid bug reporting question
Forgive me for the potentially stupid question below, but: About month ago I submitted a bug on bugs.opensolaris.org (6780852). I received an email from the 'bug' system advising me that the engineer was requesting more data. So, onto the question - How exactly am I suposed to edit, add to, or respond? I've gone to the bugs.opensolaris.org site, searched for the bug (http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6780852). But I cannot find any way to edit/change or do anything else with it, other than gaze upon it's bleakness. Someone want to toss me a clue? -- Happy cheese in fear | Jon Trulson against oppressor, rebel!| mailto:j...@radscan.com Brocolli, hostage. -Unknown| 4E2A 697F 66D6 7918 B684 | FEB6 4E98 16C1 25F8 A291 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] A stupid bug reporting question
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Shawn Walker wrote: Jon Trulson wrote: Forgive me for the potentially stupid question below, but: About month ago I submitted a bug on bugs.opensolaris.org (6780852). I received an email from the 'bug' system advising me that the engineer was requesting more data. So, onto the question - How exactly am I suposed to edit, add to, or respond? I've gone to the bugs.opensolaris.org site, searched for the bug (http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6780852). But I cannot find any way to edit/change or do anything else with it, other than gaze upon it's bleakness. Someone want to toss me a clue? You can't, at the moment. If you need to add more information, you can either email the requesting engineer firstname.lastname AT sun.com or you can email someone here and they can add it for you. Ahh. So not such a stupid question after all. Fortunately the 'real' name is on the bug report, so I'll try your suggestion. Thanks. -- Happy cheese in fear | Jon Trulson against oppressor, rebel!| mailto:j...@radscan.com Brocolli, hostage. -Unknown| 4E2A 697F 66D6 7918 B684 | FEB6 4E98 16C1 25F8 A291 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Some confusion/comments
On Wed, 28 May 2008, UNIX admin wrote: There is no post-install script facility within IPS so you have to run the mkheaders script yourself .. for now : What!?!?! There are no equivalents of pre- and postinstall, no equivalents of pre- and postremove?!?!? Really?? I'm with 'Unix admin' here... That seems like pretty basic functionality to me. -- Happy cheese in fear | Jon Trulson against oppressor, rebel!| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Brocolli, hostage. -Unknown| #include std/disclaimer.h ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] will opensolaris ever be released under the GPL?
On Sat, 10 May 2008, GNU Watch wrote: I have heard nothing but broken promises from Ian Murdock and other big whigs at sun saying that opensolaris will be released under the GPLv3. Many developers dont want to invest time to opensolaris until it is under the GPLv3 because the CDDL doesnt protect users and developers freedoms as well. Will this ever happen? and when? I started contributing to Opensolaris because i thought it was going to be gpl'd in the near future like what was promised from sun. I honestly feel let down by sun because empty promises and murdock who abandoned debian. Interesting... I guess I have never heard anyone at Sun mentioning releasing under GPL, let alone GPLv3. Hell, even linux won't do GPLv3. -- Happy cheese in fear | Jon Trulson against oppressor, rebel!| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Brocolli, hostage. -Unknown| #include std/disclaimer.h ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] PulseAudio
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007, Lennart Poettering wrote: Hi! Glynn asked me (as the upstream PulseAudio maintainer) to respond to this thread, so here I go. I'll try to respond to all the points raised in this thread: Richard Hamilton listed a couple of sound servers, claiming that it was a problem to adopt a sound server because there were so many of them. That's not really true. All sound servers he listed are either dead (MAS, ESD, aRts), prehistoric in its feature set (NAS, ESD) or not suitable for desktop use (Jack) or not a sound server at all Well I maintain NAS - have for about a decade now. No, it does not support 7.1 dolby-whatever, but it doesn't need to. It does what it claims to do, no more no less. [...] Then, Unix Admin asked mumbled something about whether we might want to install Solaris on my machines. Thanks, but no thanks. I already got a good operating system, which is called Fedora, and its audio system is what I am payed to work on by Red Hat. That must be nice :) I'd love to be paid to work on NAS. Provides alot of opportunity to improve/code things doesn't it? One of the reasons the other sound servers you mention (like MAS for example) aren't viable anymore is precisly because no one wanted to pay someone to work on it. You should consider yourself to be quite lucky - a paid engineer working on 'free' software. Cool. I want that gig :) Because the underlying audio APIs of Solaris (OSS and SunAudio) are not nearly as powerful as ALSA many of the niftier features I am currently working on will most likely not be available on Solaris anytime soon, though. Oh come on... I think you are thinking of the ancient OSS that linux ships (or used to ship with). I've seen the ALSA API. I'll pass, thanks. SunAdudio I'll agree with, but not OSS, sorry. Shawn Walker claimed that PA wasn't adopted yet. As mentioned above, we have been adopted by all relevant Linux distributions. There's not much left we could win in Free Software land, except maybe that little OS that starts with Slow and ends with aris. ;-) Oh, and a Ah... Again, you obviously haven't run a recent Solaris either (or ever??), have you. heh. couple of device manufacturers ship PA on mobile phones and GPS devices. And Nokia is now working on integrating it into Maemo What on earth for? too. So again, adoption is a non-issue. Besides maybe OpenSolaris, everyone who could adopt it has adopted it. I don't know what you mean by 'adopted'... I don't really see any need to 'adopt' a sound server at all, whether it be PA or NAS. If you need it, get it, else, who cares? [...] Shawn's claim that OSS will give you better audio support than most GNU/Linux, is an adventurous claim, at best. Also, good audio support also requires good RT support, and afaik out-of-the-box Linux still tops Solaris by far on that. Yes... I suppose that 'afaik' was a wise move... [...] PA is not made redundant by OSS. PA provides desktop integration, stuff like moving live streams between devices, network support and whatever. This is all stuff raw OSS cannot do. I'm sorry, but how many people really need to move audio streams between devices for 'desktop use'? Granted, it's a nice toy, but... Anyway, thanks for the condescending rant! :) [...] -- Happy cheese in fear | Jon Trulson against oppressor, rebel!| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Brocolli, hostage. -Unknown| #include std/disclaimer.h ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Correlation of snv_66 to S10 u4
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, Shawn Walker wrote: On Dec 21, 2007 9:54 AM, Ray Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So your statements to the effect of No guarantees, but we DO trust it with all of our stuff creates a perspective that has some meat to it. However an key part of your message as to compare it to FCS, but I don't know what FCS is! Please tell me! Production Ready All the Time And all this time I thought it was First Customer Ship :) -- Happy cheese in fear | Jon Trulson against oppressor, rebel!| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Brocolli, hostage. -Unknown| #include std/disclaimer.h ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] Project Indiana and the OpenSolaris name
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, Joerg Schilling wrote: Jon Trulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is obvious that if Sun calls a distro OpenSolaris, many people believe that this is the one and only. FWIW, as a third party that develops software on Solaris, I would welcome an 'OpenSolaris Reference' distribution. This would cause problems too. It is better to define a binary compatibility guideline and to have a test for compatibility. We, the community of people who create distributions in addition need to take care that this test is complete enough. To understand this problem: If I did not push Sun to verify /usr/bin/tar against _my_ POSIX compliance test, Sun tar would still not create/read POSIX.1-1988 compliant archives although it did pass the OpenGroup tests. Note that if a distribution _adds_ this to the compatibility definitions, this would make this distro unsuitable as a reference. For the same reason, I need to correct you as I believe that believe that Sun OpenSolaris could be a reference distribution. Sun OpenSolaris would most likely include more software than the reference requires and thus make it unsuitable as a reference. As Casper replied previously, defining 'compatibility' is non-trivial. No doubt what I consider 'compatible' might have no meaning to a company like adobe, who would have other requirements. What I was trying to get across was that one of Solaris's strengths is that it is actually designed, implemented, documented, and then supported for 'a while', something which is generally alien to Linux. As an example, if an OpenSolaris Reference Implementation (OSRI) supports package manager 'Coolio', then I would expect other dists based on OSRI to also support 'Coolio', even if it also contains some other package manager. I would like kernel modules and userland binaries compiled on OSRI to run, unmodified, on any dist that calls itself based on OSRI. I know this sounds a little silly (and maybe pretty obvious), but for any of you that have had to develop and support software on Linux, and in particular, the Linux kernel - you know how important this stuff is. A reference distro has no less _and_ no more than the interface definition and grants users that software compiled on that distro to run on any other compatible distro. Well, an OSRI has to be actually *usable* as well... Jörg -- Happy cheese in fear | Jon Trulson against oppressor, rebel!| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Brocolli, hostage. -Unknown| #include std/disclaimer.h___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] Project Indiana and the OpenSolaris name
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, Joerg Schilling wrote: Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More than 2 years ago, we did agreee that noone except Sun has the right to call a distro OpenSolaris and that Sun shoul/would not do this. I have no problem if Sun would start to publish something called: Sun OpenSolaris I have problems if this was not labelled with Sun as this would cause harm to other existing OpenSolaris based distributions. I have yet to see any qualifying statements that indicate exactly *how* other distributions would be harmed. How about trying to prove that there is no such harm? How could that possibly be done? It is obvious that if Sun calls a distro OpenSolaris, many people believe that this is the one and only. FWIW, as a third party that develops software on Solaris, I would welcome an 'OpenSolaris Reference' distribution. Without it, we would be forced to choose one or two of the dists available to try to officially support, much as we have to do now on Linux. -- Happy cheese in fear | Jon Trulson against oppressor, rebel!| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Brocolli, hostage. -Unknown| #include std/disclaimer.h ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] Project Indiana and the OpenSolaris name
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, Shawn Walker wrote: On 31/10/2007, Jon Trulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, Joerg Schilling wrote: Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More than 2 years ago, we did agreee that noone except Sun has the right to call a distro OpenSolaris and that Sun shoul/would not do this. I have no problem if Sun would start to publish something called: Sun OpenSolaris I have problems if this was not labelled with Sun as this would cause harm to other existing OpenSolaris based distributions. I have yet to see any qualifying statements that indicate exactly *how* other distributions would be harmed. How about trying to prove that there is no such harm? How could that possibly be done? That's not my problem; I have no interest in proving its harm. The onus of proving a point is upon the person who claimed it. heh, I think that one was for Joerg, not you :) [...] -- Happy cheese in fear | Jon Trulson against oppressor, rebel!| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Brocolli, hostage. -Unknown| #include std/disclaimer.h ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] Project Indiana and the OpenSolaris name
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, Ceri Davies wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 12:08:12PM -0600, Jon Trulson wrote: [...] FWIW, as a third party that develops software on Solaris, I would welcome an 'OpenSolaris Reference' distribution. Without it, we would be forced to choose one or two of the dists available to try to officially support, much as we have to do now on Linux. There's your example of harm; Jon Trulson would be supporting only the reference distribution and not the other distros. This can be expected to hold true for others. [1] Ceri Is that really harm? Just how incompatible are the current open solaris based dists out there? What we (and I assume, other 'commercial' developers) care about is the binary compatibility, stability of the kernel API, userland interface - libc, basic commands (shell, cp/rm/etc), and of course the packaging mechanism, to name a few. Kernel/Userland compatibility within major Solaris revisions is a also big plus. I would hope that any dist based on an 'OpenSolaris' reference, or whatever it will be called, would be consistant in these areas...? If so, then yes - we would probably develop/test only on the 'reference implementation'. Hopefully (!) the other dists based on it would be compatible in these areas, but we could make no guarantees. As it is on linux, we choose a few of the 'popular' and 'supported' dists for development and testing. If it works on other linux dists, then great. If not, too bad. We simply cannot support them all. I really hope that Solaris (in whatever incantation) never ends up this way. [1] This can, of course, be seen to be a good thing for ISVs, but that's not the question which was one of harm to other distros. I guess I just do not see the harm - indeed I would see it (a reference implementation) as a major plus, and probably a neccessity for Sun's customers. -- Happy cheese in fear | Jon Trulson against oppressor, rebel!| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Brocolli, hostage. -Unknown| #include std/disclaimer.h ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [trademark-policy-dev] [advocacy-discuss] Project Indiana and the OpenSolaris name
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, ken mays wrote: There's your example of harm; Jon Trulson would be supporting only the reference distribution and not the other distros. This can be expected to hold true for others. [1] Ceri [1] This can, of course, be seen to be a good thing for ISVs, but that's not the question which was one of harm to other distros. [...strange reply-quoting snipped...] Actually, this goes against what we discussed at the OpenSolaris Developer Summit. If you don't have a common consistency amongest OpenSolaris distros then we are just setting up a main point of failure to support and maintenance efforts. We made a point that the distros should have a minimum reference standard at the least. If an ISV goes off and builds 'Solaris' packages, a common set of core libs and binaries should exist amongest all distro to be called Indiana-compatible or whatever. Yes, please. Kinda like Nvidia has a reference graphics board it might send people for review of their GPUs or graphic cards. Their OEMs then go off and may modify the graphic card to their liking or jack up the clock speed. They sell us an Nvidia-based graphic card at the end of the day, but either it has a few extras or maybe just a bare bones card. To the common consumer, they may not know much of the difference or really care - as long as it is an Nvidia card as it says on the box and works with Nvidia drivers (and their games/demos...). Actually, just look at it from their driver development perpective. Do you think they (and perhaps Sun) can support the nvidia driver on a bunch of incompatible Solaris dists? Do you think they would even try? I imagine all of you out there with nvidia chipsets are going to use the Solaris dist(s) that Nvidia's drivers work on, regardless of it's name and 'branding'. Right? So some sort of reference is already required, isn't it? [...] ~Ken Mays -- Happy cheese in fear | Jon Trulson against oppressor, rebel!| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Brocolli, hostage. -Unknown| #include std/disclaimer.h ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [trademark-policy-dev] [advocacy-discuss] Project Indiana and the OpenSolaris name
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, Marty Duey wrote: On 10/31/2007 2:42 PM, Ceri Davies wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 12:08:12PM -0600, Jon Trulson wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, Joerg Schilling wrote: Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] There's your example of harm; Jon Trulson would be supporting only the reference distribution and not the other distros. This can be expected to hold true for others. [1] Ceri [1] This can, of course, be seen to be a good thing for ISVs, but that's not the question which was one of harm to other distros. I think you're reaching. As has been stated numerous times throughout the thread today, what end users decide to run as their OpenSolaris-based distro will determine which distro(s) an ISV has to support. On the other hand, if ISVs like Jon qualify a reference distribution then ti should be easier to offer support to derivative distros as well. Certainly easier than is the case in Linux-land today. Exactly. Marty -- Happy cheese in fear | Jon Trulson against oppressor, rebel!| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Brocolli, hostage. -Unknown| #include std/disclaimer.h ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Mail list owners: SpamAssassin implemented; Action recommended
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007, Mark Martin wrote: On 10/11/07, Eric Boutilier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basic spam filtering with SpamAssassin is now running on the Mailman server. As a result, we recommend that mail-list owners (moderators) reinstate friendly handling of non-subscriber posts, as follows: Eric, Is the recent addition of SpamAssassin related the appearance of empty messages from *-discuss-bounces to: undisclosed recipients? These wonderful gems have started to appear in the last 2 to 3 days. Ahh, I have noticed these too, about 6-7 over the last day or so... Completely empty except for the headers. Also to 'undisclosed-recipients'. -- Happy cheese in fear | Jon Trulson against oppressor, rebel!| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Brocolli, hostage. -Unknown| #include std/disclaimer.h ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] This is not a Solaris helpdesk
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007, Alan Burlison wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: It is better to have clean decisions instead of moving away because of noise. Agreed. I can currrently live with the current level of newbe noise and I am in hope that an official OpenSolaris helpdesk would reduce the amount of traffic in this list. There is one as Keith pointed out, it is called opensolaris-help. However until we start directing people there, they won't start using it. I wonder... How many experts sit around trolling *-help lists looking for an opportunity to help a newbie in need? Not too many in my experience. If you can't help, just don't answer. The subject line usually provides a clue for me as to whether a given thread will be 'interesting' or not. The vast majority of messages in the two dozen or so mailing lists I'm subscribed to (including LKML) do not interest me, though there is that occasion gem. However, I do not bother posting messages to any them explaining how uninteresting I find a given problem/subject to be. Posting help messages in non-help groups hardly seems to be a phenomenon unique to the solaris lists. -- Jon Trulson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] #include std/disclaimer.h No Kill I -Horta ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Drivers for ATI X1900
On Thu, 2 Aug 2007, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 02:01 -0600, Jon Trulson wrote: On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote: ken mays wrote: http://ati.amd.com/products/catalyst/linux.html#2 We also actively assist developers in the Open Source community with their work, so if you absolutely require an open source driver for your graphics card, we can recommend using drivers from the DRI project, Utah-GLX project, or others. Nice marketing spin, but ATI hasn't been actively assisting the open source community for quite a while. They haven't exactly been supporting closed-source developers either... I've always wondered what the performance of Intel GPU's would be like if they were plonked on a board with dedicated high speed memory like a traditional video card. I don't know how big a diff that would make... The i9XX chipsets are *much* faster than the 8XX chips, and with today's modern busses/memory, it's just that much better. Still the fillrate (for 3D rendering for example) doesn't quite reach r200 performance (on i915 at least). I am sure dedicated memory would help, but I do not think it would help 'that much'. I've heard various rumors about intel making an AIB (not from intel of course :)... No idea if there is any truth to it. -- Jon Trulson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] #include std/disclaimer.h No Kill I -Horta ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Drivers for ATI X1900
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, [UTF-8] Ché Kristo wrote: You mention XiG (Xi Graphics), do they even exist anymore? Try http://www.xig.com/ and note that it times out... Yeah... we exist :) We just had a web hosting provider that screwed up a data center move so badly our server hasn't been seen since thursday. Screw 'em. New server is up. PS: this was valueweb/hostway. *Never* use them. Also note, we only support R300 in 2D with the FireMV. We are still working on ATI/AMD to add more, but... -- Jon Trulson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] #include std/disclaimer.h No Kill I -Horta ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Drivers for ATI X1900
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote: ken mays wrote: http://ati.amd.com/products/catalyst/linux.html#2 We also actively assist developers in the Open Source community with their work, so if you absolutely require an open source driver for your graphics card, we can recommend using drivers from the DRI project, Utah-GLX project, or others. Nice marketing spin, but ATI hasn't been actively assisting the open source community for quite a while. They haven't exactly been supporting closed-source developers either... -- Jon Trulson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] #include std/disclaimer.h No Kill I -Horta ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java
On Sat, 26 May 2007, Doug Scott wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because Sun wants Solaris to be a success is the short answer to your question. You can't make money on a product when you're spiting the world and fighting losing battles. That 's anti-user. That's bad business. Not annoying current Solaris customers is one part of that strategy; it is all too often ignored by people suggesting random changes to the system's defaults. You are probably assuming that your customers only use Solaris! Being one of your customers, stupid thing's like the backspace key not exhibiting the same results as every other device that we own is very annoying. You might find that your customer might celebrate rather than be annoyed if you fix something that is just stupid. +1 +1 +1 !! Well said :) Though even Linux isn't immune to this annoying crap either - They like to map DEL to the BS key, and for some strange reason, the DEL (editing) key to a DEC VT220 Select-like esc sequence. FWIW. -- Jon Trulson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] #include std/disclaimer.h No Kill I -Horta ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Fluendo announces multimedia for Linux and
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Brian Cameron wrote: Richard: I think gaim 2.0beta_whatever (maybe from blastwave) uses GStreamer, but I never got it to work (although ISTR some email archives in which that was a known problem not fully resolved). I ended up using NAS (can't remember where I got that) and the associated auplay command, since that had less latency than audioplay (and no start/end pops), and less pauses and such than whatever JDS/GNOME would prefer one used as an audio server (esd?). GStreamer seems to slowly becoming the standard for audio/video in the GNOME desktop. The esd (Enlightened Sound Daemon) project is pretty dead at the moment (and currently maintained by a GStreamer developer, by the way). Remember that NAS, JACK, ALSA, and other popular audio frameworks are Linux specific and would require significant porting effort to get working in Solaris. Ahh! :) I am the NAS maintainer - I try very hard to ensure that nas is not linux specific. And it isn't. NAS works fine in solaris, last I heard. GStreamer can use NAS as a backend as well. I know this is an old thread, I haven't checked it in a few months as you can see :( But is NAS does not run on Solaris, I'd certainly like to know about it. -- Jon Trulson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] #include std/disclaimer.h No Kill I -Horta ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Solaris vs. Linux
On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, John Martinez wrote: On Jul 14, 2005, at 5:38 PM, Sunil wrote: have you considered providing gnu like long options and/or compatibility for star? it will be perfect if there was only one tar utility and all gnu programs with gnu options for /usr/bin/tar don't just die on solaris. I can try doing this mapping if you point me to source of star. Am I the only one that doesn't like the --something-or-other options of GNU related software? Please don't do this to Solaris! No, you are not alone :) The one big thing I absolutely *hate* is the '--help', when a '-?' should do the trick (and usually did on non-gnu stuff). $ ls -? ls: invalid option -- ? Try `ls --help' for more information. Augh! :) -- Jon Trulsonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ID: 1A9A2B09, FP: C23F328A721264E7 B6188192EC733962 PGP keys at http://radscan.com/~jon/PGPKeys.txt #include std/disclaimer.h I am Nomad. -Nomad ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
