Re: [PD] netpd
Am 12.09.2008 um 15:26 schrieb Josh Lawrence: Hello list, wellcome josh. I just recently discovered netpd, which is frigging AWESOME for those of us newbies that can't program PD very well just yet. However, I have a problem - when I open up _chat.pd, it's looking for people on roman or erni are probanly the folks who would answer that best. my own LAN. Can I jam with folks across the internet? Is there a absolutely, that's what it is made for. but i can't login right now myself, so there might be an issue on the server side. main server or servers that I can connect to? And if so, can you the default server is netpd.org on port 3025 point me to the RTFM on that? i guess you have browsed netpd.org and read the docs. i don't think there is more than that. max ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Device: OCZ NIA
Am 30.09.2008 um 17:29 schrieb Max: it has only windows drivers. there is a sourceforge linux driver page, but no code yet. http://sourceforge.net/projects/nia4linux/ and a posting on the forum: http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38441 aparently it doesn't need drivers at all since it behaves as a hid device. http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43298 but on OSX it shows up on the system profiler like this: Neural Impulse Actuator Prototype 1.0: Version: 0.01 Bus (mA): 500 Speed: Bis zu 12 MBit/s Vendor:Brain Actuated Technologies Vendor-ID: 0x1234 i tried hans hid object in pd. it does not show the device when i list the connected items. open by vendor/product-ID doesn't work since i have no poduct id, just a vendor id. hans, any ideas? max ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] expr modulo negative
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Re: [PD] expr modulo negative
thank you andy. i guess it is a bug anyway, not in the objects, but in the documentation. both open the same helppatch with no mention about the difference. max Am 14.10.2008 um 14:32 schrieb Andy Farnell: [%] and [mod] treat the sign differently. [mod] is monotonic but [%] is symmetrical about zero. On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:45:50 +0100 Hans Roels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, If you want to calculate the modulo of a negative number, you get a different result if you use the 'mod' object or 'expr' with %. -1 4 || mod | 3 -1 4 | | expr $f1 % $f2 | -1 I guess this is a bug in expr ? Hans r ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- Use the source ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [ot] PhD, mostly artistic
Hi Thomas, Bauhaus University in Weimar has a PhD in fine arts since this fall. They are planning to accept 5 new PhD students each semester. max Am 23.10.2008 um 17:26 schrieb Thomas Grill: Hey all, since i'm planning to start a PhD in the near future i'm trying to figure out which institution would fit best to my (currently rather blurry) intentions. I'd like to research real-time interaction with electronic media (emphasis on music), mostly from an artistic point of view. Keywords would be digital representation of musical structure elements/intentions/ideas, interaction with other performers, improvisation/anticipation, interfaces of the physical to the virtual world, etc. Media and music/art theory would be important, media technology should _not_ be the main focus. It would be great if the supervisor is an active, renowned artist or specialized theoretician. Europe would be preferred, overseas possible nevertheless. any pointers? many thanks, Thomas ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Fwd: Intrepid repo seems to be broken [resolved]
Am 10.11.2008 um 20:51 schrieb hans w. koch: gem (also from the repo) segfaults immediately audio has to go the oss route for (more or less) working without crackles. I can confirm that. seems that the eeepc901 has still some way to go. but after all, it wasn´t mant for that either :-) same hadrware here. still hoping for http://apt.puredata.info/releases intrepid main max PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM: the sound is gone!!
pix_fim used to play the audio on os x which was a bug. now you have to build that yourself. m. Am 11.11.2008 um 17:54 schrieb Carlos Caires: Hi, Is there any one who can help me with this: - I've transposed my PD/Gem patch from pd-0.38.4-extended (Mac OS 10.3.9) to my new macbook intel and updated it with the new PD version (PD-0.40.3-extended). - The problem is that, now, I cannot hear any more the sound of my movie files (.mov). Any hint? Thks Carlos S. Caires Esta mensagem (incluindo quaisquer anexos) pode conter informação confidencial ou legalmente protegida para uso exclusivo do destinatário. Se não for o destinatário pretendido da mesma, não deverá fazer uso, copiar, distribuir ou revelar o seu conteúdo (incluindo quaisquer anexos) a terceiros, sem a devida autorização. Se recebeu esta mensagem por engano, por favor informe o emissor, por e-mail, e elimine-a imediatamente. Obrigado. This message may contain confidential information or privileged material, and is intended only for de individual(s) named. If you are not in the named addressee, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] trying to compile Gem on ubuntu intrepid Eee (was: Gem in Intrepid repo is broken)
Am 11.11.2008 um 14:18 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: hmm, I believe that the problem has been fixed in 0.91 (or at least it offers the GEM_SINGLE_CONTEXT workaround); this is why i asked you to compile a new version. autoconf ./configure make checking for Base/configLinux.h.in... yes checking for g++... g++ checking for C++ compiler default output file name... a.out checking whether the C++ compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes checking whether g++ accepts -g... yes checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether ln -s works... yes checking whether compiler accepts -fPIC... yes building Gem with Controls-objects building Gem with Geos-objects building Gem with Manips-objects building Gem with Nongeos-objects building Gem with Particles-objects building Gem with Pixes-objects building Gem with openGL-objects building Gem without Vertex-objects checking for sin in -lm... yes checking for main in -lz... yes checking for dlopen in -ldl... yes checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... g++ -E checking for X... libraries , headers checking for gethostbyname... yes checking for connect... yes checking for remove... yes checking for shmat... yes checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... no checking for main in -lX11... yes checking for main in -lXext... yes checking for XF86VidModeGetAllModeLines in -lXxf86vm... no checking for main in -lXext... (cached) yes checking for OpenGL-framework... no checking for glInitNames in -lGL... no checking for gluLookAt in -lGLU... no checking for AGL-framework... no checking for Carbon-framework... no checking for QuickTime-framework... no checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes checking for PKG_IMAGEMAGICK___CFLAGS... checking for PKG_IMAGEMAGICK___LIBS... checking for ImageMagick++-config... no checking for main in -lMagick++... no checking for PKG_TIFF_CFLAGS... checking for PKG_TIFF_LIBS... checking for tiff-config... no checking for TIFFOpen in -ltiff... no checking for PKG_JPEG_CFLAGS... checking for PKG_JPEG_LIBS... checking for jpeg-config... no checking for jpeg_read_header in -ljpeg... no checking for PKG_LIBQUICKTIME_CFLAGS... checking for PKG_LIBQUICKTIME_LIBS... checking for libquicktime-config... no checking for quicktime_init in -lquicktime... no checking for PKG_LQT_CFLAGS... checking for PKG_LQT_LIBS... checking for lqt-config... no checking for quicktime_init in -lquicktime... no checking for PKG_MPEG3_CFLAGS... checking for PKG_MPEG3_LIBS... checking for mpeg3-config... no checking for mpeg3_check_sig in -lmpeg3... no checking for PKG_MPEG_CFLAGS... checking for PKG_MPEG_LIBS... checking for mpeg-config... no checking for OpenMPEG in -lmpeg... no checking for PKG_AVIFILE_CFLAGS... -I/usr/include/avifile-0.7 checking for PKG_AVIFILE_LIBS... -laviplay -ldts -lm -lz checking for PKG_FFMPEG_CFLAGS... checking for PKG_FFMPEG_LIBS... checking for ffmpeg-config... no checking for av_open_input_file in -lavformat... no checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /bin/grep checking for egrep... /bin/grep -E checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for sys/types.h... yes checking for sys/stat.h... yes checking for stdlib.h... yes checking for string.h... yes checking for memory.h... yes checking for strings.h... yes checking for inttypes.h... yes checking for stdint.h... yes checking for unistd.h... yes checking linux/videodev.h usability... yes checking linux/videodev.h presence... yes checking for linux/videodev.h... yes checking for PKG_IEEE1394_CFLAGS... checking for PKG_IEEE1394_LIBS... checking for ieee1394-config... no checking for main in -ldv... no checking for PKG_FTGL_CFLAGS... checking for PKG_FTGL_LIBS... checking for ftgl-config... no checking for main in -lftgl... no checking for PKG_ARTOOLKIT_CFLAGS... checking for PKG_ARTOOLKIT_LIBS... checking for artoolkit-config... no checking for arInitCparam in -lAR... no checking for pthread_create in -lpthread... yes checking for X... libraries , headers checking for ANSI C header files... (cached) yes checking fcntl.h usability... yes checking fcntl.h presence... yes checking for fcntl.h... yes checking float.h usability... yes checking float.h presence... yes checking for float.h... yes checking for memory.h... (cached) yes checking stddef.h usability... yes checking stddef.h presence... yes checking for stddef.h... yes checking for stdlib.h... (cached) yes checking for string.h... (cached) yes checking for strings.h... (cached) yes checking sys/ioctl.h usability... yes checking sys/ioctl.h presence... yes checking for sys/ioctl.h... yes checking sys/time.h usability... yes checking sys/time.h presence... yes checking for sys/time.h... yes checking termios.h usability... yes checking termios.h presence... yes checking for
Re: [PD] Fwd: Gem in Intrepid repo is broken [not resolved]
Am 11.11.2008 um 13:04 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: Max wrote: Am 11.11.2008 um 10:40 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: hans w. koch wrote: just tried that, no luck. upon opening the first gem-helpfile, pd segfaults. by just opening the help-file or when clicking on the create button? neither. when you try to make an Gem object, so as soon as you type gemwin and hit enter = crash. interesting. do you use ubuntu's Pd as well? yes. what can i contribute to solve either or both problems? the first start would be to get a brand-new Gem from http:// gem.iem.at and compile it yourself. what i meant was to solve one of two general problems, not the one on my individual machine (otherwise the subject would read: compiling gem for intrepid). 1. the intrepid repository needs a working version of gem 2. the pd-extended build needs an intrepid repository max PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Fwd: Gem in Intrepid repo is broken [not resolved]
Am 11.11.2008 um 10:40 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: hans w. koch wrote: just tried that, no luck. upon opening the first gem-helpfile, pd segfaults. by just opening the help-file or when clicking on the create button? neither. when you try to make an Gem object, so as soon as you type gemwin and hit enter = crash. could my version of gem be too old? (0.9.0, thats what you get via the official ubuntu apt-get) yes this is way too old. the current version if 0.91. i cannot remember using 0.9. yes, the intrepid repositorys promote 0.9 which crashes, and there is no working pd-extended for intrepid either. what can i contribute to solve either or both problems? max PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cant load libraries
what is concerning framestein i read on framestein.org: Requirements: Windows, DirectX version 7 or later, Pure Data. I'd be surprised if you can meet these requirements on os x. for the others i'd suggest you try the easiest way first and install a pd-extended build http://puredata.info/downloads make sure you delete the old preferences file so the new installation will find its externals. have fun. Am 12.11.2008 um 15:20 schrieb Conor Higgins: this is the start up message that I am getting... just in case anybody wanted to know... GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia GEM: ver: 0.91.1 'tigital' GEM: compiled: Jul 29 2008 GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: Authors : Mark Danks (original version) GEM:Chris Clepper GEM:James Tittle GEM:IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, Cyrille Henry, et al. GEM: found a bug? miss a feature? please report it: GEM:homepage http://gem.iem.at/ GEM:bug-tracker http://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem/ GEM:mailing-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev/ GEM: compiled for SIMD architecture: SSE2 MMX GEM: using SSE2 optimization zexy: can't load library PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.5-darcs [pdp_qt]: setting LIBQUICKTIME_PLUGIN_DIR to: /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/lib/libquicktime gridflow: can't load library framestein: can't load library PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP version 0.12.22 ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) pdp_colorgrid: version 0.4 by Yves Degoyon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lluis Gomez i Bigorda ([EMAIL PROTECTED] ) On 12 Nov 2008, at 10:45, Conor Higgins wrote: Hi I am trying to install Zexy 2.1 on Mac OS X Leopardit is starting to get annoying at this stage because it will not install for meI mean I am not quite sure as to how to install different libraries anyway but I successfully managed (fluked) doing it before with Gem and one or two others at the moment when i start up PD i am getting cant load library for Zexy, gridflow and also for framestein is it a compatibility issue with OS X or else is it someting I am doing wrongundoubtedly it is the latter case if anything... Thanks, Conor ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] can't find mtx_*
where is [mtx_*]? i've loaded iemmatrix and iem_matrix specs: Pd-0.40.3-extended-20081103 on ppc os x PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] and it's PR/Marketing, or those
Am 21.10.2006 um 16:32 schrieb Marius Schebella: Frank Barknecht schrieb: Hallo, Tim Blechmann hat gesagt: // Tim Blechmann wrote: well, a forum is a good alternative for a mailinglist, if there is too much trafic on the list to follow the discussions ... To me there's too much interestng traffic on the list to follow a web forum as well. ;) Ciao would it be possible and if, would it be a good idea to forward forum entries to the mailing list? in the best case with individual settings: 1 forward all messages, 2 forward only messages to my posting. please allow me to continue this thread from 2006: interesting is that some company in SF found a way to combine forum and mailinglist in one, leaving it to the user to decide how to interact with the machine. max http://www.cycling74.com/forums/index.php http://www.cycling74.com/mailman/listinfo/maxmsp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Gem: pix_write and pix_multiimage
it's a pity pix_write and pix_multiimage don't follow the same file naming paradigm. pix write makes image like this: image0.jpg to image9.jpg while pix_multiimage does: image0.jpg to image9.jpg stoptrick.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] need help with pmpd
Works well with metro 1 and a little less gravity (iAmbient2D mass), can't wait to hear the sound it will make! m. Am 11.12.2008 um 01:59 schrieb Jack: You can put 1 instead of 5 in the [metro]. Then the update of the PMPD system is much faster than GEM (in your exemple 1 frame every 20 ms). if i'm right. ++ Jack Le 11 déc. 08 à 01:16, jörg brinkmann a écrit : thank you veryvery much Jack :) they are not falling out of the corners anymore. nice but is it possible to never let the balls come across the border ? (this happens when you shake very drastically) P.S.: if someone has some own pmpd examples to share. that would be great Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:50:24 +0100 Von: Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: jörg brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] need help with pmpd Try with this parameters. I prefer to use [iLine2D] than [iSeg2D] because the 6th argument (depth) will force the ball to 'come back' all the line long and not the segment long (if i'm right). ++ Jack -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pure data controling Videolan
hi list,
it is possible to control vlc from pd using the py external with the
rc interface of vlc.
thomas grill made an example in two minutes which i am happy to share.
due to limitations of vlc it seems to be impossible to display video
under os x because vlc can't open a window if it's in rc mode, but it
works with linux.
import pyext
import sys
from socket import *
class vlc(pyext._class):
def __init__(self,host,port):
self.s = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM)# create a TCP socket
self.s.connect((str(host), port)) # connect to server on the port
def list_1(self,*atoms):
self.s.send(' '.join(map(str,atoms))+\r)
d = self.s.recv(1024)
self._outlet(1,d.split())
vlc.pd
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Am 13.01.2009 um 22:03 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
People have talked about it in the past, but I haven't seen it
working. It should be possible using the RC (aka Remote Control)
interface in VLC. It would be awesome to have a working example of
that.
Or you could do it in Gem or PDP...
.hc
On Jan 13, 2009, at 2:39 PM, Arnaud Tanguy wrote:
Hello,
Do you know a way to control VLC with Pure data?
It seem to work by telnet but I'm a complete newbie for that.
Somebody can help me?
Best regards.
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Re: [PD] Pure data controling Videolan
forgot to say that you have to start vlc like this: vlc -I rc --rc-host=localhost:1234 here is a thread on the videolan forum regarding the video issue under os x http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=2t=53876sid=f353cbd298aad77fd4a1b3407586e0f1 if anyone finds a fix post here please. also the python code is just a working proof-of-concept and proper error handling should be added (if the connection drops for example). Am 14.01.2009 um 14:49 schrieb Max: hi list, it is possible to control vlc from pd using the py external with the rc interface of vlc. thomas grill made an example in two minutes which i am happy to share. due to limitations of vlc it seems to be impossible to display video under os x because vlc can't open a window if it's in rc mode, but it works with linux. vlc.pyvlc.pd Am 13.01.2009 um 22:03 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: People have talked about it in the past, but I haven't seen it working. It should be possible using the RC (aka Remote Control) interface in VLC. It would be awesome to have a working example of that. Or you could do it in Gem or PDP... .hc On Jan 13, 2009, at 2:39 PM, Arnaud Tanguy wrote: Hello, Do you know a way to control VLC with Pure data? It seem to work by telnet but I'm a complete newbie for that. Somebody can help me? Best regards. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] another iPhone/iPodTouch OSC controller
just stubled about this (via Max-mailinglist) (from the makers of framestein) http://pinktwins.com/fantastick/ from the website: FantaStick is a minimalistic remote interface for use with software such as Max/MSP or Pure Data. With FantaStick you receive multitouch-events and issue simple drawing commands to build exactly the kind of interface you want. FantaStick is 100% widget-free! 0% OSC content! Instead of a limited set of builtin-widgets, the interface-logic resides in Max/MSP (or your software of choice) and only drawing commands are sent to the device. This leads to interfaces that work exactly the way you want - and look gorgeously minimalistic, too! Features - Minimalistic, fullscreen control area with nothing on it but what you provide. - Multitouch-events on the device are forwarded to your host via UDP. Information includes the touch state (begin, move, end) and coordinates. - Designed for no-hassle: zero-click startup, the device does not sleep or suspend network, flicker- and lag-free. - Displaying images (fetched with URLs) and caching them locally for use on non-networked locations. - Basic drawing with lines, boxes and text. PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problem with pd extended
pd-ext on intrepid works for me using this apt repository: http://otherside.servebeer.com/software/ don't install the deb, use the packet manager. Am 06.02.2009 um 22:46 schrieb bigsw...@cox.net: Hi Just installed Ubuntu 8.10 and when i try either pd extended on the download site i get unresolved dependencies with libLame0 on one installer and libgsl0 on the other anyone know where i can find these? I built lame from source and installed but that did not help i assume i need the -dev files as well please advise pp Patrick Pagano Digital Media Engineer Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] MIDI on OSX
there is a wrapper application which lets you use the general midi instruments in quicktime http://notahat.com/simplesynth/ it's only 204 KB big. this is the simplest solution afaik. Am 10.02.2009 um 19:45 schrieb enrique franco: Hi, How can I play MIDI sounds from PD in OSX? It is necessary to have another MIDI software running? Can I just play General MIDI from PD? Cheers, -- Enrique Franco Telefono/Phone: +572 5552334 ext 388 Webpage: http://richie.idc.ul.ie/~enrique/ http://www.iua.upf.es/~ffranco/pfm.htm ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] video bluescreen
maybe you want to check this out: http://damm-net.org/wiki/index.php?title=Bewegungsmelder it contains some examples in gem for beginners to get them started. focus of the patches is to be very basic and simple to make it quickly understandable yet giving the students ideas on what is possible to spark their own ideas. any comments appreciated. feel free to use, recycle, change it. Am 11.02.2009 um 22:12 schrieb Garrett Lynch: On 11 Feb 2009, at 13:19, mark edward grimm wrote: hey if you get it optimized can you send me the result? my time is really limited lately but i would love to give a demo to my class this semester with your results. i still have not tried it on our own green screen yet for lack of time... Will do, I'm preparing it for a class as well so it will be a fairly paired down version but my class is next Monday so not sure I'll get it done - anyway I'll forward it on if I do. Many thanks. a+ gar _ garr...@asquare.org http://www.asquare.org/ http://www.asquare.org/networkresearch/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-extended on Ubuntu 8.1 Intrepid
you haven't mentioned the most essential info: what doesn't work for you? Am 18.02.2009 um 09:09 schrieb Fränk Zimmer: Hi, I did dry to get pd-extended on my Ubuntu Intrepid PC. Well I thought the the easiest way would be to use synaptics.- As third party sources: deb http://otherside.servebeer.com/ubuntu intrepid main deb-src http://otherside.servebeer.com/ubuntu intrepid main And I also added the key: http://otherside.servebeer.com/software/keys/key.gpg I got no errors in synaptics and with Ubuntu 8.04 it works fine like this.- Does anybody got pd-extended running this way ? thanks! fraenk -- Fraenk Zimmer media and sound installations http://fz.mur.at ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-extended on Ubuntu 8.1 Intrepid
i did it exactly your way. it is there. maybe you need to update the packet information? once installed it doesn't show up in the menue with an icon, but launches on “pd” in the terminal. Am 18.02.2009 um 13:57 schrieb Fränk Zimmer: uhh.- sorry. Well I can´t find pd-entended with the synaptics search function.- best, fraenk Max schrieb: you haven't mentioned the most essential info: what doesn't work for you? Am 18.02.2009 um 09:09 schrieb Fränk Zimmer: Hi, I did dry to get pd-extended on my Ubuntu Intrepid PC. Well I thought the the easiest way would be to use synaptics.- As third party sources: deb http://otherside.servebeer.com/ubuntu intrepid main deb-src http://otherside.servebeer.com/ubuntu intrepid main And I also added the key: http://otherside.servebeer.com/software/keys/key.gpg I got no errors in synaptics and with Ubuntu 8.04 it works fine like this.- Does anybody got pd-extended running this way ? thanks! fraenk -- Fraenk Zimmer media and sound installations http://fz.mur.at ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fränk Zimmer media and sound installations http://fz.mur.at PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] I am a new user confused as to why I cant get GEM object to work.
There is no need for X11 if you want to use GEM. only PDP/PidiP and Gridflow depend on X11, but you said you want to run GEM. the errors you posted suggest that you probably use a build for intel in a PPC machine or the other way round. make sure you have downloaded the right version for your architecture: http://puredata.info/downloads m. Am 23.02.2009 um 19:09 schrieb Geoff: Hi I am using PD-extended 0.40.3 on a Macbook osx 10.4 but I cannot seem to get the GEM bits to work. I am going through the PMPD example patches but none of the GEM objects work. I have looked into the contents of PD extended and I can see lots of help files related to GEM in there. But if I try to create a GEM object I just get the dotted red box. So I went to the Pure community website and downloaded GEM for mac OSX but there are not instructions for installing on MAC OSX their were instructions for pc and linux but no osx. I am stuck I have googled this, but can't find an answer. How do I get the GEM objects to work in PD on mac OSX 10.4? Any help appreciated as I am getting no-where :) cheers geoff ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] rodent kill
with this patch i got rid of the rats in my kitchen. thanks pd! rodents.pd Description: Binary data PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] rodent kill
Am 27.02.2009 um 00:29 schrieb marius schebella: Max wrote: with this patch i got rid of the rats in my kitchen. what about the cockroaches? haven't tried because i don't have them. send me your bug reports. PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd~ to sync audio/video
hi list, i am trying out if the pd~ object is an alternative for sync playback of audio and video to the “traditional” method of using two instances of pd talking to each other by netserver/netclient. so the situation is that we need one pd instance with audio on and one without for gem. because audio needs to run without dropouts in the first process, while gem will run in the second process. to run the video in the parent process and the audio in the subprocess with pd~ doesn't work, because the main process needs audio on. (see pd~ helppatch the last lines) to run the audio in the parent process and the video in the subprocess using pd~ -noutsig 0 -ninsig 0 doesn't work because pd freezes when using these parameters on pd~ when using pd~-noutsig 0 it does work, but only if the subprocess will switch its dsp computing on for a moment it can be switched of afterwards. is it a good idea at all to use pd~ for that purpose or should i stick to the netserver/netclient solution? m. PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] list issue
here is my humble interpretation of mathieus idea. randombeatz.pd Description: Binary data list-shuffle.pd Description: Binary data Am 05.03.2009 um 12:21 schrieb YOhannes: thanks guys, i made a simple patch based on mathieus idea. (see attachment) i like to apply more control on listlength, without specifying it, like i would have to with [list-equalize]. now, depending on the devisor of 2, with my master-sequence of lets say 2000 (ms) i get lists with very small and very big values. for example: 15.625 1.95312 3.90625 1.95312 500 250 1000 31.25 62.5 7.8125 125 any ideas how to get smoother/smaller differences between the list- items? thanks. j #N canvas 437 216 195 346 10; #X obj -72 146 urn; #X obj -72 96 iter; #X obj -72 24 inlet; #X obj -72 173 pack 0 0; #X obj -72 293 outlet; #X msg 12 100 clear; #X obj -72 120 t b a; #X obj -72 61 t l l b; #X obj -72 259 zl group; #X obj 10 126 list length; #X obj -72 238 pipe; #X obj -72 216 unpack 0 0; #X obj -72 194 zl rev; #X connect 0 0 3 0; #X connect 1 0 6 0; #X connect 2 0 7 0; #X connect 3 0 12 0; #X connect 5 0 0 0; #X connect 6 0 0 0; #X connect 6 1 3 1; #X connect 7 0 1 0; #X connect 7 1 9 0; #X connect 7 2 5 0; #X connect 8 0 4 0; #X connect 9 0 0 1; #X connect 9 0 8 1; #X connect 10 0 8 0; #X connect 11 0 10 0; #X connect 11 1 10 1; #X connect 12 0 11 0; #N canvas 91 22 294 416 10; #X obj 35 0 loadbang; #X obj 111 27 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 111 53 random 2; #X obj 179 243 t f f; #X obj 111 192 f; #X obj 111 279 list-extend; #X obj 77 307 list; #X text -31 137 master(ms); #X obj 77 337 shakeitt; #X obj 77 359 print that; #X obj -22 1 inlet; #X obj 111 1 inlet; #X obj 153 337 list-accum; #X floatatom 153 360 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 111 74 route 0 1; #X obj 179 192 f; #X msg 35 139 2000; #X obj 111 96 t b b b; #X obj 179 214 / 2; #X msg -22 27 set \$1; #X text 14 359 slave(ms); #X connect 0 0 16 0; #X connect 1 0 2 0; #X connect 2 0 14 0; #X connect 3 0 5 0; #X connect 3 1 4 1; #X connect 3 1 15 1; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 5 0 6 1; #X connect 6 0 8 0; #X connect 6 0 12 0; #X connect 8 0 9 0; #X connect 10 0 19 0; #X connect 11 0 1 0; #X connect 12 0 13 0; #X connect 14 0 17 0; #X connect 14 1 15 0; #X connect 15 0 18 0; #X connect 16 0 15 1; #X connect 16 0 4 1; #X connect 17 0 16 0; #X connect 17 0 6 0; #X connect 17 1 5 1; #X connect 17 2 4 0; #X connect 18 0 3 0; #X connect 19 0 16 0; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] change for symbols
is there something like [change] for symbols? m. PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] self-modifying and dynamic patching
the midi controller example is a good one i believe. here is what i did a while ago http://www.netpd.org/Midilearn Am 12.03.2009 um 03:27 schrieb Phil Stone: Hi Derek, Maybe a very simple example would be good. I have an Ozone MIDI- controller, and it has eight knobs, which send out continuous controller data on 8 different MIDI CC numbers. Now, [ctlin] (MIDI control input) doesn't have settable arguments -- only creation args., so I racked my brains trying to figure out how to make an object that would take a knob number argument, 1-8, convert that number to the corresponding controller number, and watch that controller number with [ctlin]. (Admittedly, it would have been easy to create [Ozknob1]...[Ozknob8] objects, but this reeked of kludge to my sensibilities; neither did I consider it elegant to use a [ctlin] for each knob that watched *all* controller data, then [route]d the data from the desired control number -- I wanted the pre-filtering to be done by [ctlin], if possible). The more generalized problem is this: take a creation argument of an abstraction, *do something with it*, then get it into the creation argument of a contained abstraction. Nothing I tried worked, until I took the attached dynamic approach. Phil Stone www.pkstonemusic.com Derek Holzer wrote: Would like to show some examples of dynamic and self-modifying Pd patches during a workshop here in Berlin. I know there are some in the archives (and maybe on people's HDs) somewhere, but damned if I can find them. Links to previkous posts or new examples welcome! best! Derek #N canvas 676 96 394 341 10; #X obj 8 105 21; #X obj 34 105 22; #X obj 60 105 23; #X obj 86 105 24; #X obj 112 105 25; #X obj 138 105 26; #X obj 164 105 27; #X obj 189 105 28; #X obj 37 74 select 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8; #X obj 37 51 f \$1; #X obj 37 6 loadbang; #X obj 103 304 outlet; #X text 8 149 Ozone mapping; #X msg 237 93 2; #X text 267 91 channel; #X obj 37 28 t b b; #X obj 102 158 pack f f; #X text 110 16 Use: [OzKnob n] where n is the knob #; #N canvas 0 22 210 111 \$0-oz_ctrlknob 0; #X obj 28 72 outlet; #X restore 103 272 pd \$0-oz_ctrlknob; #X obj 102 218 s pd-\$0-oz_ctrlknob; #X msg 102 187 obj 10 10 ctlin \$1 \$2 \, connect 1 0 0 0; #X connect 0 0 16 0; #X connect 1 0 16 0; #X connect 2 0 16 0; #X connect 3 0 16 0; #X connect 4 0 16 0; #X connect 5 0 16 0; #X connect 6 0 16 0; #X connect 7 0 16 0; #X connect 8 0 0 0; #X connect 8 1 1 0; #X connect 8 2 2 0; #X connect 8 3 3 0; #X connect 8 4 4 0; #X connect 8 5 5 0; #X connect 8 6 6 0; #X connect 8 7 7 0; #X connect 9 0 8 0; #X connect 10 0 15 0; #X connect 13 0 16 1; #X connect 15 0 9 0; #X connect 15 1 13 0; #X connect 16 0 20 0; #X connect 18 0 11 0; #X connect 20 0 19 0; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] GEM pix_write bugs (timelapse)
hi list, i've thrown together this tiny gem patch which makes a timelapse slideshow. i have encountered a few issues with it. configuration: Pd version 0.41.4-extended-20090223 GEM: ver: 0.91.3 'tigital' GEM: compiled: Feb 23 2009 OS X 10.5.6 the issues: 1. pix_write doesn't interpret the file path correctly. it seems it can't understand relative paths at all. 2. pix_write accepts a message [file file [type](. it creates files with a .jpg ending if the type is 0. But in reality it still is a TIFF. no matter what value you write. 3. pix_write creates files with an acending number 0... this conflicts with how other objects like pix_multiimage do it (0...9) just submitted that to the gem bugtracker. and the patch: put this to / because of the bug in pix_write to make it work. put a folder called frames beside it. timelapse.pd Description: Binary data beware: this patch will also eat up all the memory and will crash pd. this isn't pix_writes problem though - i'll try to find out why this is now. max PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Background Colour...
hi simon, since your previos posts are about Gem i recon you are talking about the gem window. please refer to the help patch for [gemwin], then see the subpatch [pd lighting and fog] since color perception is needs lighting i guess it somehow makes sense to look for it there. you will find there that by simply sending a [color 0 1 1( message to gemwin you can set the background color of it. hope tht helps. Am 30.03.2009 um 16:43 schrieb Simon Ball: Hi there, simple question... How do I change the background colour of the window? I'm still learning, obviously. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pure Data FLOSS Manual Book Sprint 4-6 April 2009 in NYC and Berlin
hey marius, derek + list, i've done some of that already. maybe you can recycle what i've done for some classes. files are here: http://damm-net.org/wiki/index.php?title=Bewegungsmelder i'm glad if i can help, let me know. m. Am 30.03.2009 um 19:47 schrieb marius schebella: Hi, I'd like to participate remotely somehow. I understand that you also want to cover Gem(?), so I'd like to propose a chapter on video tracking. motion tracking, background subtraction, showing how to do alpha masking, color tracking, I also would like to include some documentation of pix_opencv, unless someone else is already doing that, for example face tracking, but also other possibilities of opencv (pattern recognition). I also think the TUIO stuff should go there (with references to touchlib or touché), and multiblob. AFAIK there is no gem section yet, so I don't know if it is possible to do just one chapter without a general introduction to gem?? Btw, there are tons of other topics to cover... marius. PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM pix_write bugs (timelapse)
here is the same thing with pix_multiimage instead. it will crash pd a little bit later than the version with pix_image. timelapse_multiimage.pd Description: Binary data Am 30.03.2009 um 18:50 schrieb mark edward grimm: hey thats pretty nice!! much nicer than my poor gem attempt last month... and the patch: put this to / because of the bug in pix_write to make it work. put a folder called frames beside it. yeah this is weird huh? --- On Sat, 3/28/09, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote: From: Max abonneme...@revolwear.com Subject: [PD] GEM pix_write bugs (timelapse) To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 12:52 PM hi list, i've thrown together this tiny gem patch which makes a timelapse slideshow. i have encountered a few issues with it. configuration: Pd version 0.41.4-extended-20090223 GEM: ver: 0.91.3 'tigital' GEM: compiled: Feb 23 2009 OS X 10.5.6 the issues: 1. pix_write doesn't interpret the file path correctly. it seems it can't understand relative paths at all. 2. pix_write accepts a message [file file [type](. it creates files with a .jpg ending if the type is 0. But in reality it still is a TIFF. no matter what value you write. 3. pix_write creates files with an acending number 0... this conflicts with how other objects like pix_multiimage do it (0...9) just submitted that to the gem bugtracker. and the patch: put this to / because of the bug in pix_write to make it work. put a folder called frames beside it. beware: this patch will also eat up all the memory and will crash pd. this isn't pix_writes problem though - i'll try to find out why this is now. max -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM pix_write bugs (timelapse)
Am 01.04.2009 um 15:10 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: mark edward grimm wrote: hey thats pretty nice!! much nicer than my poor gem attempt last month... and the patch: put this to / because of the bug in pix_write to make it work. put a folder called frames beside it. yeah this is weird huh? no it's not weird. it's a known issue of Pd on OSX (fixed in Pd- extended, afair) where Pd get's started in the / directory. all relative paths are thus relative to the root and not to your home- directory, nor the patch-directory nor to your mailbox). no. relative paths work fine with pix_film and others. it's a problem of pix_write. PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM pix_write bugs (timelapse)
Am 01.04.2009 um 15:14 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: Max wrote: here is the same thing with pix_multiimage instead. it will crash pd a little bit later than the version with pix_image. i guess it is crashing right after you try loading 100 images (or so) into RAM. what do you expect? no it isn't the problem of a sequence wich is too long. it is the problem that the old sequence doesn't get erased from the ram. (if you look carefully, you might also notice that [pix_write] gradually fills up your harddisk. this is no bug either ;-)) that aint a problem either. or am i missing something obvious (it seems so, as i cannot reproduce the memleak you report with [pix_image] either). well, obviously you are missing something. i hope someone can reproduce that with the attached patches. run top to see the memory beeing eaten by pd. at least on os x with GEM: ver: 0.91.3 'tigital' GEM: compiled: Feb 23 2009 timelapse_multiimage.pd Description: Binary data timelapse.pd Description: Binary data PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM pix_write bugs (timelapse)
Am 01.04.2009 um 16:45 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: despite of my sarcasm: have you considered using [pix_buffer] rather than [pix_multiimage]; it is way more flexible. (e.g. if all the images can fit into ram, you don't even need a harddisk) thanks for the hint, i'll try it out. m. PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] (Ask) Master Degree in New Media Arts
there are a lot of places all over the world. let me just pick some in Germany: BA/MA: at the Bauhaus University in Weimar http://www.uni-weimar.de/cms/index.php?id=30L=1 In transition from Diploma (5 years to Bachelor/Master 3/2 Years): at the Burg Giebichenstein in Halle: http://medienkunst.burg-halle.de at the KHM in Cologne: http://www.khm.de/ and many others. Am 07.04.2009 um 14:19 schrieb Adityo Pratomo: Hi there everyone. I want to ask, can anybody give me information about universities that give a master degree in new media arts, probably those that similar with MIT Media Lab. I've just graduated with a bachelor degree in electrical engineering, and in my final assignment, I create some kind of installation using Arduino and Pd. After that, I feel very eager to continue studying about this new media art field. So can anybody tell me where should i go? Any information will be appreciated. Thank you very much everybody! PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] morphing
crossfade? m. Am 08.04.2009 um 18:05 schrieb Johannes: hello list, i like to morph two samples about a duration of one minute. what is the the most accurate, i mean smoothest, way to do that in pd? has anybody experience with that? thanks, johannes PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Troubles using Alesis Photon X25 as AUDIO output
latency too low? on xp and (even more on vista) latency has to be set very high. Am 27.04.2009 um 21:49 schrieb gabe vinardi: Hi everybody! I use Alesis Photon X25 as MIDI input controller with Pd under Windows with no problem at all, but when I configure it as AUDIO output (since it has its own audio card inside) the signal gets corrupted. Notice that it works fine with other programs (Jeskola, Fruity, etc) . Can anyone throw me some light? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Troubles using Alesis Photon X25 as AUDIO output
Am 27.04.2009 um 23:34 schrieb gabe vinardi: I have win98.. The noise is like graphic, like audio-video onboard cards where the activity is filtred... something rythmic, a repetition i see, that could be something else too where can i set the latency? in the audio settings of Pd. actually i should correct myself: you have to set the buffer size to a higher value (in the audio settings it's called “delay (msec)” though) the result will be a higher latency. m. PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Troubles using Alesis Photon X25 as AUDIO output
Am 28.04.2009 um 00:46 schrieb gabe vinardi: that didn't work :( but was a very good tip anyway... at least now i know how to decrease the latency thanks, tell me if you have more ideas! yes, i do: 1. always reply to all, so you make sure the conversation stays on the list and will not be private. there are undoubtly more experienced users than me subscribed, and some who actually use windows. 2. send your mails to the list plain text 3. try http://www.asio4all.com/ m. PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] Workshop spatial acoustics simulation with Georg Holzmann in Halle/Germany
ENGLISH: Workshop announcment spatial acoustics simulation in Pure data GERMAN: Georg Holzmann (DE): Raumklangsimulation mit Pure data 5.6.2009 14 UHR - 7.6.2009 16 UHR Der Workshop beschäftigt sich mit der räumlichen Abbildung von Klängen bzw. Musik mit Hilfe der freien Software „Pure data“. Er bietet konzeptionelle sowie soft- bzw. hardwaretechnische Anleitung zum ästhetischen und konzeptionellen Zusammenhang zwischen Klang als zeitlichem Phänomen und Raum. Verschiedene experimentelle und akademische Techniken zur Klangspatialisation werden vorgeführt, diskutiert und an einer Lautsprecheranordnung vor Ort demonstriert. Desweiteren werden Modelle und psychoakustische Grundlagen der binauralen Abbildung von Klängen (2D- und 3D-Klangbewegungen mit Kopfhörern) vorgestellt. Im zweiten Teil des Workshops wird auf die mitgebrachten Konzepte und Ideen der Teilnehmenden eingegangen, indem sie technische und inszenatorische Unterstützung bei ihren Projekten erhalten. Dieser Workshop findet in Kooperation mit dem Department Medien- und Kommunikationswissenschaft der Martin-Luther-Universität Halle- Wittenberg im Mitteldeutschen Multimediazentrum, Mansfelderstraße 56 in Halle (Saale), statt. Teilnehmer: 5 bis 9 Teilnahmegebühr: 110 €, ermäßigt 90 € Georg Holzmann Georg Holzmann wurde an der Technischen und Kunstuniversität Graz, Österreich zum Toningenieur ausgebildet. Er beschäftigt sich mit elektronischer Musik und Informatik und präsentierte verschiedene Arbeiten auf zahlreichen Festivals in Europa und Amerika. Derzeit forscht er an der Technischen Universität Berlin im Bereich der künstlichen Intelligenz. Anmeldung: http://www.werkleitz.de/typo3/index.php?id=80no_cache=1L=tx_wileventsdb_events [uid]=37back=55 http://www.werkleitz.de/typo3/index.php? id = 61 L = tx_wileventsdb_events [uid]=37back=55tx_wileventsdb_events[display]=singlecHash=7db75b5e98 ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] RjDj Sprint in Weimar/Germany
general Info: RjDj-Sprint with Frank Barknecht (Köln) upcomming Weekend Bauhaus-University in Weimar will host a RdDj-Sprint with Frank Barknecht to further explore the possibilities of reactive composition on mobile devices. While the Workshop is aimed at students, the public is welcome to join, but iPhones/iPo touch can only be provided for the students, external participants will have to bring their own devices. when and where: Sa. 02. bis Mo. 04.05.2009 Start Sa. 14 Uhr, dann 10-18 Uhr Marienstraße 7, Raum 204 99423 Weimar http://www.RjDj.me http://www.uni-weimar.de/medien/umgebungen/ please mail me first if you are planning to attend. -- Max Neupert Künstlerischer Mitarbeiter Fakultät Medien Bauhaus-Universität Marienstrasse 5, Raum 208 99423 Weimar Tel. +49 3643-583872 Fax. +49 3643-583806 http://www.uni-weimar.de/medien/umgebungen/ --- ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] rfid + pd
hi list, the last posts on the list with the topic RFID are from 2006 - is there any new development/hot stuff since then? Which hardware (reader) would you recommend/proved to work with pd? Did someone try this one? http://tinkerit.myshopify.com/collections/kits/products/rfid-kit thanks for suggestions, m. PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] rewire for pd?
related read: http://audacityteam.org/wiki/index.php?title=Features_We_Can%27t_Implement Am 23.05.2009 um 13:25 schrieb João Pais: Hi, anyone interested in adding rewire support for pd? So far I read the protocoll is free, though proprietary. (but I don't know much about it) João Pais PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!
what about the weired select-text-in-the-about-window-and-close-to- crash-pd bug? it's in the bug tracker since a while and still present. m. Am 27.05.2009 um 23:37 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: Ok, I fixed another 8.5 issue, this one with the Help Browser. I am afraid that the issue of the iemgui's label fonts looks complicated so that's going to have to wait for the next release. .hc On Wed, 27 May 2009 00:11 -0400, Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com wrote: PS -- this Fedora hack almost works well for object and message boxes -- some of the mappings seem wrong (fiddling with the values in gnome on Fedora 10 changes nothing for me). This hack also doesn't affect font size for labels on gui objects (sliders, bangs, etc.) -- these are too large still. I haven't yet tried it in data structures. I have a feeling something awful is afoot. I'll post screenshot comparisons when I can get back to my fedora machine. Thanks a bunch for your patience on this, Matt Excellent, could you add info that to the FAQ entry on this topic: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-big-or-small .hc On May 26, 2009, at 10:45 PM, Hector Centeno wrote: ah! I found the source of the problem. Googling for the font size issue in Fedora I found that it seems that Gnome in Fedora 10 has problems auto-detecting the right DPI for the display. In the Font section of the Appearance Preferences, clicking on Details shows a configuration window where the resolution in DPI can be set. I changed that to 96 and the fonts work fine in PD with the original values in Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3. Cheers, Hector On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I do have that code in pd.tk which I had already hacked before in a similar way. Under OpenSuse those font sizes work fine but in Fedora the 8 has to be changed by 7 like this: set sizelist 5 6 7 9 10 12 14 16 19 25 For some reason in general the fonts in Fedora look bigger. After getting use to the sizes in OpenSuse I had to reduce everything in the gnome settings. Cheers, Hector ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd/gem dumb polygon question
i like scolarsheep, the are cute. i suspect the polygon in Gem behaves just like the polygons in OpenGL. This is probably the reason why shapes with points indentating relative to their neighbours are not displayed as you'd expect. see figure 2-2 for reference: http://alien.dowling.edu/~vassil/theredbook/chapter02.html i've modified cyrilles patch a little bit to have 5 brancens eu-.pd Description: Binary data btw. i have a few suggestions how you could take better advantage of the email list: 1. search the archive first - you might find information relevant to you http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2005-10/032224.html 2. don't just reply to a random message if you want to open a new thread. it will mess up thread-view. 3. send preferably text only messages, not html. Am 31.05.2009 um 10:43 schrieb CICCOLIX: Hi, for my scolarsheep i would to make in Gem a animate european flag. I'm starting from the stars. Using polygon object seem something whose wrong, it appear nice in line mode but bad in fill mode. I am the suspect that this depends on my poor knowledge of the foundations of geometry :) Please help here's attached the patch and online find the images of result many thanks -- Lazzaro http://www.eyax.com/line.jpg http://www.eyax.com/fill.jpg #N canvas 390 429 849 441 10; #X obj 119 248 cnv 15 100 60 empty empty empty 20 12 0 14 -195568 -66577 0; #N canvas 0 0 450 300 gemwin 0; #X obj 132 136 gemwin; #X obj 67 89 outlet; #X obj 67 10 inlet; #X obj 67 41 route create; #X msg 67 70 set destroy; #X msg 142 68 set create; #X msg 198 112 destroy; #X msg 132 112 create \, 1; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 3 0 4 0; #X connect 3 0 7 0; #X connect 3 1 5 0; #X connect 3 1 6 0; #X connect 4 0 1 0; #X connect 5 0 1 0; #X connect 6 0 0 0; #X connect 7 0 0 0; #X restore 124 287 pd gemwin; #X msg 124 268 destroy; #X text 120 247 Create window:; #X obj 271 79 gemhead; #X obj 343 224 rotateXYZ; #X floatatom 338 167 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 583 380 polygon 12 --; #X msg 285 343 draw line; #X msg 285 298 draw fill; #X msg 489 108 2 0 0; #X msg 595 190 0 -3 0; #X msg 627 216 -1 -2 0; #X msg 656 241 -3 -2 0; #X msg 522 133 3 -2 0; #X msg 556 161 1 -2 0; #X msg 704 297 -3 2 0; #X msg 406 28 0 3 0; #X msg 432 52 1 2 0; #X msg 466 77 3 2 0; #X msg 681 273 -2 0 0; #X msg 733 326 -1 2 0; #X connect 1 0 2 0; #X connect 2 0 1 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 5 0 7 0; #X connect 6 0 5 1; #X connect 8 0 7 0; #X connect 9 0 7 0; #X connect 10 0 7 4; #X connect 11 0 7 7; #X connect 12 0 7 8; #X connect 13 0 7 9; #X connect 14 0 7 5; #X connect 15 0 7 6; #X connect 16 0 7 11; #X connect 17 0 7 1; #X connect 18 0 7 2; #X connect 19 0 7 3; #X connect 20 0 7 10; #X connect 21 0 7 12; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Slow cpu/RJDJ patching approach ...
btw is there a way for the patch to know if it's in -nogui mode? Am 31.05.2009 um 09:10 schrieb Roman Haefeli: On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 17:07 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On May 25, 2009, at 9:17 PM, danomatika wrote: I don't really need an accelerated gui as I like what Pd has now, I just think these basic elements should not peg the cpu in -nogui mode. That way I can work in a nice graphical environment to create the patches, then run said patches in the minimal environment and not get penalized for using gui objects/parameters. why aren't you putting a: [r NOGUI] | [spigot] in front of every gui object? don't get me wrong, i am not saying, that i wouldn't like to see that automatically happen in pd, when used in -nogui mode, but until this is implemented, this might be an approach for a workaround. roman PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] GEM objects missing
hi list, i am looking for [pix_buffer_filmopen] (there is a helpfile, but it can't be created and [pix_substract] which is referenced in the [pix_diff] helpfile but doesn't create eiher. GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia GEM: ver: 0.91.3 'tigital' GEM: compiled: May 30 2009 Pd-ext 0.41.4 rc5 m. PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM objects missing
that works for pix_buffer_filmopen, but not for pix_substract. thanks. Am 17.06.2009 um 00:30 schrieb Jack: Have you try to replace [pix_buffer_filmopen] with [Gem/ pix_buffer_filmopen] ? Le 16 juin 09 à 23:52, Max a écrit : hi list, i am looking for [pix_buffer_filmopen] (there is a helpfile, but it can't be created and [pix_substract] which is referenced in the [pix_diff] helpfile but doesn't create eiher. GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia GEM: ver: 0.91.3 'tigital' GEM: compiled: May 30 2009 Pd-ext 0.41.4 rc5 m. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM objects missing
aik. way too much wine in croatia. thanks. Am 17.06.2009 um 12:10 schrieb Derek Holzer: Are you sure that's not [pix_subtract]? D. Max wrote: that works for pix_buffer_filmopen, but not for pix_substract. thanks. Am 17.06.2009 um 00:30 schrieb Jack: Have you try to replace [pix_buffer_filmopen] with [Gem/ pix_buffer_filmopen] ? -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ::: http://www.vimeo.com/macumbista ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 175: What are the sections sections of? Imagine a caterpillar moving PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pix_buffer_filmopen frames info? Was: Re: GEM objects missing
hi list, it would be very useful if pix_buffer_fimopen would give the same info about the movie just like pix_film's second outlet (list frames size size) should i file a feature request? thanks. Am 17.06.2009 um 12:00 schrieb Max: that works for pix_buffer_filmopen, but not for pix_substract. thanks. Am 17.06.2009 um 00:30 schrieb Jack: Have you try to replace [pix_buffer_filmopen] with [Gem/ pix_buffer_filmopen] ? Le 16 juin 09 à 23:52, Max a écrit : hi list, i am looking for [pix_buffer_filmopen] (there is a helpfile, but it can't be created and [pix_substract] which is referenced in the [pix_diff] helpfile but doesn't create eiher. GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia GEM: ver: 0.91.3 'tigital' GEM: compiled: May 30 2009 Pd-ext 0.41.4 rc5 m. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_buffer_filmopen frames info? Was: Re: GEM objects missing
Am 22.06.2009 um 08:56 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: Max wrote: great. now i get iohannes' irony. it really wasn't irony (but of course it only makes sense if you knew that [pix_buffer_filmopen] is implemented as an abstraction): if you do have a modified patch of pix_buffer_filmopen and want it to be included into upcoming releases, please post it to the patch- tracker at http://sf.net/prjects/pd-gem IOhannes, i'm deeply flattered to be able to contribute. you'll find the patches in the tracker. max PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PTP/libgphoto in PD?
not exactly what you are looking for, but i've been taking digital camera pictures with nikon slr cameras using os x's automator and digital camera programs to make an app and lounching this via shell and the open command from within pd. works very well but is os x exclusive. m. Am 06.02.2009 um 23:43 schrieb B. Bogart: Hey all, Has anyone explored, or implemented a PD object to control digital cameras via USB? In particular using libgphoto. I just wanted to throw it out before I begin work on the task myself. .b. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEm: bug when trying macosx menubar?
what kind of problem with the keyboard? it helps to be a little bit more specific. Am 14.07.2009 um 15:08 schrieb servando barreiro: Hello! I´m making an installation that starts and goes fullscreen on macosX but I´m finding strange behaviours in the message [menubar( to gemwin. It´s suposed to make the bar dissapear but instead of that, gives problem w the keyboard.. any tip? thanks Ser i...@minitronics.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEm: bug when trying macosx menubar?
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-03/047966.html Am 14.07.2009 um 22:50 schrieb servando barreiro: Hey Max! the problem was that when u destroy the menubar and create a fullscreen gemwin, you loose mac keystrokes like command+tab, command +q ctrl+cmd+esc or anything useful to go back and change the patch.. (maybe a bug?) the problm was before discovering [gemkeyboard], now the job is done but I really had to spend some time making different combinations in the hierarchy of the messages for gemwin. Now i have a mac mini that you handle only with the on/off button (you even doesnt need mouse or keyb) and runs the audiovisual installation itself. (w infrared sens included) I did closed the topic already.. Thank you for your attention! SErvando --- El mar, 14/7/09, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com escribió: De: Max abonneme...@revolwear.com Asunto: Re: [PD] GEm: bug when trying macosx menubar? Para: servando barreiro servandi...@yahoo.es CC: pd-list@iem.at Fecha: martes, 14 julio, 2009 6:42 what kind of problem with the keyboard? it helps to be a little bit more specific. Am 14.07.2009 um 15:08 schrieb servando barreiro: Hello! I´m making an installation that starts and goes fullscreen on macosX but I´m finding strange behaviours in the message [menubar( to gemwin. It´s suposed to make the bar dissapear but instead of that, gives problem w the keyboard.. any tip? thanks Ser i...@minitronics.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] How to exchange tables between different instances of pd in real time?
Am 14.07.2009 um 21:19 schrieb Martin Schied: @Frank: Thanks for that suggestion but I couldn't find mails in the list saying that pd~ did the job for Max Neupert. In fact his only mail I could find was about pd~ not working some time ago..? it does work nicely. i think it's the way how to split audio and video in two separate processes to avoid interference. PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] How to exchange tables between different instances of pd in real time?
Am 15.07.2009 um 11:05 schrieb cyrille henry: Max a écrit : Am 14.07.2009 um 21:19 schrieb Martin Schied: @Frank: Thanks for that suggestion but I couldn't find mails in the list saying that pd~ did the job for Max Neupert. In fact his only mail I could find was about pd~ not working some time ago..? it does work nicely. i think it's the way how to split audio and video in two separate processes to avoid interference. no, it will not avoid interference. it's the way to go if you have a dual core computer and wish do dedicated 1 core for the audio, and 1 core (+ GPU) for the images rendering. but since the 2 pd instance are synchronised at audio rate, if the video processing is using more then 100% of a CPU, then it will slow down both pd instance and you should then ear click on the audio. true. to avoid that slow down the framerate dynamically if cpu usage is approaching 100% in the rendering process. to avoid interference, you should use 2 pd, and connect them via netsend. that did the job but there are some difficulties with that approach: if an instance with netserver crashes the port will be blocked for some time. max PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEm: bug when trying macosx menubar?
Am 15.07.2009 um 12:15 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: Max wrote: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-03/047966.html Am 14.07.2009 um 22:50 schrieb servando barreiro: Hey Max! the problem was that when u destroy the menubar and create a fullscreen gemwin, you loose mac keystrokes like command+tab, command+q ctrl+cmd+esc or anything useful to go back and change the patch.. (maybe a bug?) the problm was before discovering [gemkeyboard], now the job is done but I really had to spend some time making different combinations in the hierarchy of the messages for gemwin. btw, i would consider this a _feature_ rather than a _bug_ (if you want kiosk mode, then people should not be able to simply switch from the output-window to an arbitrary application in the background and hack your computer :-)) agreed. plus it's easy to prevent with [gemkeyboard] | [sel 12] | [destroy( | [gemwin] (press q) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [pd~] not working (Windows XP)
It's only available for Linux and OS X at the moment due to the lack of a piping mechanism on Winowze. Am 06.08.2009 um 13:17 schrieb Ingo Scherzinger: I have just downloaded “Pd-0.42.5-extended-20090802-windowsxp- i386.exe” and installed it. When I try to create a [pd~] object it can’t create it. The pd~-help files don’t work either. I havn’t found anything in the list archives about this. Any idea? Any library that needs to be activated? Ingo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd~: child only starts to compute when dsp is on
hi miller, i promised to send you this one: it appears that the pd subprocess ony starts to compute (even messages) when audio is switched on in the subprocess. if it was switched on once it may be switched of safely afterwards. child.pd Description: Binary data main.pd Description: Binary data a workaround for now is this in the subprocess' patch: [loadbang] | [t b b] | | | [; pd dsp 1( | [delay 20] | [; pd dsp 0( thanks for taking a look. Max PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] letters that move to their correct position to form readable text
hi tim, additionally to what frank said you might want to use a font with fixed width, otherwise you need to parse the kerning information somehow. with a fixed width you can just count the letter position and add the space to the x-position. use [text3d]. max Am 14.08.2009 um 10:44 schrieb Frank Barknecht: Hallo, i...@timvets.net hat gesagt: // i...@timvets.net wrote: I'm looking for a way to do this: Show text where the letters are positioned randomly across the screen. Then gradually move the letters towards their correct position, to show the original, readable text... For showing letters you could use Gem. Then use pmpd or msd to do the smooth movement with some physical feeling. Just add some fixed mass points to the line(s) of text you want to fill, and add mobile masses connected by links to their respective fixed/final positions. Turn off all links by setting the k rigidity parameter to 0, spread out the letters in random positions, then turn on the k again to let the masses start moving. Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] granular synthesis
Hello, Am 13.10.2005 um 16:45 schrieb Frank Barknecht: Hallo, hard off hat gesagt: // hard off wrote: anyone wanna share some granular synth patches i'm gonna make one, but it'd be good to have some points of reference. I have two in my pwd~, one realtime input, one array granulation: http://royalrabbit.goto10.org/svn/goto10/pd-patches/fbar/granular/ broken. where is the new home of that link? m. PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd~ for Max
Hi List, i've been asked by students where to download the starter drug “pd~ for Max” and i could not find it myself - i thought it is available? It's neither here: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~tapel/software.html nor http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html and here neither: http://www.maxobjects.com/?v=authorsinitiale=M max PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd~ for Max
I'm having trouble getting it to run - there is no INSTALL instructions, but i guess pd~.mxo lives in /Applications/Max5/Cycling\ '74/msp-externals/ and pd~.help lives in /Applications/Max5/Cycling\ '74/msp-help/ allthough the other files are called .maxhelp, not .help i restarted Max and created a pd~ Object, it has no in or outlets but i can open the Help from there, switch Audio on and Select the Pd-0.42-5.app but nothing happens. what am i doing wrong? Am 28.08.2009 um 05:35 schrieb Miller Puckette: Oops, sorry about that... I reorganized some stuff and that fell through a crack. It's back up on: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html cheers Miller On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 03:21:57AM +0200, Max wrote: Hi List, i've been asked by students where to download the starter drug ?pd~ for Max? and i could not find it myself - i thought it is available? It's neither here: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~tapel/software.html nor http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html and here neither: http://www.maxobjects.com/?v=authorsinitiale=M max PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd~ for Max
pd~ for max does not even launch Pd here. DSP is on. Is there anybody else on the Pd-list who has Max5 installed on OS X who could try this out? thx, Max Am 28.08.2009 um 19:54 schrieb Miller Puckette: I had the same problem for a while... for pd~ to work not only do you have to start dsp in the help window but you also have to have audio going in and out of Max. Otherwise Pd start up but does nothing. cheers M On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 04:47:11PM +0200, Max wrote: I'm having trouble getting it to run - there is no INSTALL instructions, but i guess pd~.mxo lives in /Applications/Max5/Cycling\ '74/msp-externals/ and pd~.help lives in /Applications/Max5/Cycling\ '74/msp-help/ allthough the other files are called .maxhelp, not .help i restarted Max and created a pd~ Object, it has no in or outlets but i can open the Help from there, switch Audio on and Select the Pd-0.42-5.app but nothing happens. what am i doing wrong? Am 28.08.2009 um 05:35 schrieb Miller Puckette: Oops, sorry about that... I reorganized some stuff and that fell through a crack. It's back up on: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html cheers Miller On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 03:21:57AM +0200, Max wrote: Hi List, i've been asked by students where to download the starter drug ?pd~ for Max? and i could not find it myself - i thought it is available? It's neither here: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~tapel/software.html nor http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html and here neither: http://www.maxobjects.com/?v=authorsinitiale=M max ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd~ for Max
i had to install the SDK http://www.cycling74.com/twiki/bin/view/ProductDocumentation/MaxUBSDK then using a .plist file from the examples which come with it it does this in xcode: Building target “pd~” of project “pd~” with configuration “Development” — (1 error) Checking Dependencies cd /Users/max/Downloads/pdmax/src/pd~ com.apple.tools.info-plist-utility /Users/max/Downloads/pdmax/ src/pd~/Info.plist -genpkginfo /Users/max/Downloads/pdmax/src/pd~/ build/Development/pd~.mxo/Contents/PkgInfo -expandbuildsettings -o / Users/max/Downloads/pdmax/src/pd~/build/Development/pd~.mxo/Contents/ Info.plist cd /Users/max/Downloads/pdmax/src/pd~ /Developer/usr/bin/gcc-4.0 -x c-header -arch i386 -pipe -Wno- trigraphs -fpascal-strings -fasm-blocks -O0 -DMSP -fmessage-length=0 - mfix-and-continue -mmacosx-version-min=10.4 -gdwarf-2 -I/Users/max/ Downloads/pdmax/src/pd~/build/pd~.build/Development/pd~.build/pd~.hmap -Wmost -Wno-four-char-constants -Wno-unknown-pragmas -O0 -F/Users/max/ Downloads/pdmax/src/pd~/build/Development -F/Developer/SDKs/ MacOSX10.4u.sdk/Library/Frameworks -I/Users/max/Downloads/pdmax/src/ pd~/build/Development/include -I../../c74support/max-includes -I../../ c74support/msp-includes -I/Users/max/Downloads/pdmax/src/pd~/build/ pd~.build/Development/pd~.build/DerivedSources -isysroot /Developer/ SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk -c /Users/max/Downloads/pdmax/src/pd~/../../ c74support/max-includes/macho-prefix.h -o /Library/Caches/ com.apple.Xcode.501/SharedPrecompiledHeaders/macho-prefix- deodejqxgbrbvtcxomjgfungpesf/macho-prefix.h.gch i686-apple-darwin9-gcc-4.0.1: /Users/max/Downloads/pdmax/src/pd~/../../ c74support/max-includes/macho-prefix.h: No such file or directory i686-apple-darwin9-gcc-4.0.1: warning: '-x c-header' after last input file has no effect i686-apple-darwin9-gcc-4.0.1: no input files i686-apple-darwin9-gcc-4.0.1: no input files i686-apple-darwin9-gcc-4.0.1: no input files i686-apple-darwin9-gcc-4.0.1: no input files i686-apple-darwin9-gcc-4.0.1: no input files Build failed (1 error) Am 01.09.2009 um 14:26 schrieb Thomas Grill: Hi all, in my experience there's no need to recompile externals for Max5 unless they are using new features or GUI stuff. I'll see if i can find some time to help out with this. gr~~~ Am 31.08.2009 um 16:18 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: It probably needs to be compiled for Max5. Anyone with Max5 want to give it a shot? .hc On Aug 31, 2009, at 3:43 AM, fred-ordi wrote: yes, here same with Pd-0.42-5 and Max5 on OSX 10.5.8, not yet succeed in: Max window tells nothing about something wrong (pd~ version 0.2 printed to Max window when instantiated) but the pd~ object in pd~.help patcher appears with a dark foreground colorlike if the external is wrong... Cheers, Fred Miller Puckette wrote: Oh... good idea (I have only Max 4; my OS is too old to upgrade to 5) thanks M On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 08:32:27PM +0200, Max wrote: pd~ for max does not even launch Pd here. DSP is on. Is there anybody else on the Pd-list who has Max5 installed on OS X who could try this out? thx, Max Am 28.08.2009 um 19:54 schrieb Miller Puckette: I had the same problem for a while... for pd~ to work not only do you have to start dsp in the help window but you also have to have audio going in and out of Max. Otherwise Pd start up but does nothing. cheers M On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 04:47:11PM +0200, Max wrote: I'm having trouble getting it to run - there is no INSTALL instructions, but i guess pd~.mxo lives in /Applications/Max5/Cycling\ '74/msp-externals/ and pd~.help lives in /Applications/Max5/Cycling\ '74/msp-help/ allthough the other files are called .maxhelp, not .help i restarted Max and created a pd~ Object, it has no in or outlets but i can open the Help from there, switch Audio on and Select the Pd-0.42-5.app but nothing happens. what am i doing wrong? Am 28.08.2009 um 05:35 schrieb Miller Puckette: Oops, sorry about that... I reorganized some stuff and that fell through a crack. It's back up on: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html cheers Miller On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 03:21:57AM +0200, Max wrote: Hi List, i've been asked by students where to download the starter drug ?pd~ for Max? and i could not find it myself - i thought it is available? It's neither here: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~tapel/software.html nor http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html and here neither: http://www.maxobjects.com/?v=authorsinitiale=M max ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list
Re: [PD] Blue/green box
;o) you may want to look into those patches: http://damm-net.org/wiki/index.php?title=Bewegungsmelder Am 12.09.2009 um 16:48 schrieb bra...@subnet.at: Very nice, thank you do you mind if I use that patch for future projects? ;-) der.brandt bra...@subnet.at wrote: Hi list anybody having an idea of building a bluebox in pd/gem? very simple, see attached patch. fmdasdr IOhannes you can also have a look at [pix_chroma_key] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Blue/green box
it works now. the GLSL in OS X is very picky about all floats beeing defined with a decimal dot. (here i use a NVIDIA GeForce 9400M w/ os x) to make these patches really useful you have to use a camera with manual focus and manual exposure. auto-* will wreck the results. in order to optimize the output an edge detection could be an instesting addition. do you mind if i add your version to the collection? m. Am 17.09.2009 um 13:16 schrieb Jack: Hmm, strange i had only warning but no error. I change 0 to 0.0 (to use float instead int in 'if ((color.g - colorToDiscard.g) = 0.0)') and now i have no warning (i join the new .frag) : all works fine here. I think, the problem could come from the GPU (and so the version of GLSL supported ? I am not an expert in GLSL, so i can't answer correctly to this question :). Here i have a NVidia 9700M GTS (with the NVidia driver 180.44). ++ Jack Le jeudi 17 septembre 2009 à 12:43 +0200, Max a écrit : hi jack, you are very welcome. most of the patches are heavily inspired by what floats through the mailinglist or the help patches. i didn't have time to look into it but i am getting error: [glsl_fragment]: shader not loaded linking: link 5.60519e-45 2.8026e-45 linking: link 5.60519e-45 7.00649e-45 [glsl_program]: Info_log: [glsl_program]: ERROR: One or more attached shaders not successfully compiled [glsl_program]: Link failed! with the shaders you've attached. are you shure they work on your system? Am 17.09.2009 um 01:39 schrieb Jack: Hello Max, Thanx to share those useful patchs. Just one point, i have a problem with the color keying patch using GLSL, it doesn't work here (someone else ?). So i decided to write a new .frag (is it good ?) and create a new patch. By hoping it helps. ++ Jack Le mercredi 16 septembre 2009 à 16:09 +0200, Max a écrit : ;o) you may want to look into those patches: http://damm-net.org/wiki/index.php?title=Bewegungsmelder PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
Hans: Is it supposed to use the localisations? because it doesn't. Am 04.09.2009 um 18:45 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: Ok, so there are now some Mac OS X and Windows test builds for people to try. For GNU/Linux, building from source is still the easiest way. http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds I think its pretty useable on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X. The Windows side needs more work, so I would greatly appreciate feedback and contributions from Windows users. .hc The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
with an old version of „the unarchiver“ i get weired permissions problems when unpacking. after updating it unzipps fine. http://wakaba.c3.cx/s/apps/unarchiver.html the built-in BOMArchiveHelper.app works. Am 04.09.2009 um 21:43 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: Hmm, strange, on Mac OS X, I get a weird permissions error, but if I use 'unzip' from the command line, it works fine... .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I'm getting errors when I try to extract the zip. WinRAR gives me: ! C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\pd-0.43-gui- rewrite.zip: CRC failed in pd-0.43-gui-rewrite\lib \tk8.5\tkfbox.tcl. The file is corrupt ! C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\pd-0.43-gui- rewrite.zip: The archive is corrupt -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 8:42 PM Thanks, fixed. .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: 403 Forbidden for the windows link. (macos link works) -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 6:45 PM Ok, so there are now some Mac OS X and Windows test builds for people to try. For GNU/Linux, building from source is still the easiest way. http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds I think its pretty useable on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X. The Windows side needs more work, so I would greatly appreciate feedback and contributions from Windows users. .hc The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick.- David Zicarelli kill your television ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds
Am 17.09.2009 um 23:51 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: First off, make sure you have de.msg in your .app, it should be here: Pd-devel.app/Contents/Resources/po/de.msg If de.msg is there, could you send me the results of these commands: in Pd-GU-Rewrite.app or in Pd-devel.app? it's not present in GUI-Rewrite. i've just downloaded it again. max ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Re 2: pd~ for Max
Ted Apel hs updated his site, pd~ is now available here: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~tapel/software.html but it still doesn't work for me with Max5. Am 01.09.2009 um 20:06 schrieb fred-ordi: si, it works fine in Max4 osx 10.5.8 with attached file compiled with max5 sdk. Its quite stable, if I edit the audio in Max patch, with audio interrupts, Pd is quiting of course but no pb at all to relaod it and sounds good. The point is that the opendialog in Max help returns the following pathname: hard-disk-name:/path/to/Pd which does not work in Max -:(, just need to remove hard-disk- name... (need something like cut -d: -f 2 in Max messag-filemane subpatcher...) but still not work in Max5, Pd does not launch yet. fred marius schebella wrote: okay! so what I have to do is: start the help patch with max4, then open Options - DSP Status (If I try to open the panel later, I get an error saying error: Bad file descriptor) then I had to replace the opendialog with a simple message starting with /Users/marius..., as opposed to what I got before mac_hd:/Users/marius and then I clicked on this message, pd would start up and spit out a message with a lot of zeros. and then I start sound as you said from the DSP Status window. hmmm... actually trying the whole thing again, it now works by just starting pd with the pddir message and the start message and *then* clicking on ;dsp start. but only once, I cannot stop pd and start it again, that brings me into freeze mode again.. ah, it works if I turn off dsp in max before stopping pd, and then start it again, and then turn on dsp again. marius. 2009/9/1 Miller Puckette mpuck...@imusic1.ucsd.edu: No, I mean the Max thing... I don't have Max here, but maybe it's called DSP preferences? cheers M On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 06:07:35PM +0200, marius schebella wrote: hi, thanks miller, are you talking about the pd audio settings? cause the dialog won't open up either, everything is frozen. with physically going in and out, you mean connecting a cable to the mini jack of your macbook(pro)?? should I also say a small prayer? or use my little max voodoo doll. no, seriously, I could still not get it running, sorry. do I need jack for this to work? best, marius. 2009/9/1 Miller Puckette mpuck...@imusic1.ucsd.edu: Hi Marius, For Max 4, that's the symptom I got -- even after hitting the max DSP 1 button on the patch -- until I went into the audio settings panel and actually got sound running in and out of hardware. ?For me at least, the Max scheduler apparently didn't even run the DSP objects unless audio was physically going in and out. For Max5, the API is supposedly unchanged (except, as Thomas Grill mentioned, GUI stuff that pd~ doesn't use). ?However, the scheduler or audio I/O systems might be different for example -- so this is probably going to take some fooling around to debug. cheers Miller On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 09:40:09AM +0200, marius schebella wrote: Hi, I tried to run pd~ on max4 and max5, but no luck either. with max4 i can create a pd~ object with inlets and outlets, and when I start pd, the pd window starts up, but nothing else happens. max freezes, I guess trying to open the pd~-subprocess.pd patch? on max5 the situation is exactly the same as fred-ordi described, an object box without in and outlets (although in the help-patch there *are* ins and outs), and with a message in the max window saying pd~ version 0.2. but clicking on start pd~... does nothing. tried different settings for the directory, too, no change. I used 0.42.5. and 10.5.8. I can try to compile pd~ for 10.5 later today. is there someone who has pd~ running on osx? which versions of max and pd are you using? marius. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It probably needs to be compiled for Max5. ?Anyone with Max5 want to give it a shot? .hc On Aug 31, 2009, at 3:43 AM, fred-ordi wrote: yes, here same with Pd-0.42-5 and Max5 on OSX 10.5.8, not yet succeed in: Max window tells nothing about something wrong (pd~ version 0.2 printed to Max window when instantiated) but the pd~ object in pd~.help patcher appears with a dark foreground colorlike if the external is wrong... Cheers, Fred Miller Puckette wrote: Oh... good idea (I have only Max 4; my OS is too old to upgrade to 5) thanks M On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 08:32:27PM +0200, Max wrote: pd~ for max does not even launch Pd here. DSP is on. Is there anybody else on the Pd-list who has Max5 installed on OS X who could try this out? thx, Max Am 28.08.2009 um 19:54 schrieb Miller Puckette: I had the same problem for a while... for pd~ to work not only do you have to start dsp in the help window but you also have to have audio going ?in and out of Max. ?Otherwise Pd start up but does nothing. cheers M On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 04:47:11PM +0200, Max wrote: I'm having trouble getting it to run - there is no INSTALL instructions, but i guess pd~.mxo lives
Re: [PD] nightly build of Pd-devel aka Pd-gui-rewrite
great work. it's thrilling to see this evolution.
two remarks:
- you need jack osx otherwhise the app will not start on os x.
- if you go to About Pd... in the Menu you get this error:
can't read pd_myversion: no such variable
can't read pd_myversion: no such variable
while executing
regsub -all PD_VERSION $bigstring2 $pd_myversion bigstring3
(procedure ::pd_menucommands::menu_opentext line 15)
invoked from within
::pd_menucommands::menu_opentext $dirname/$basename
(.txt arm line 1)
invoked from within
switch -- [string tolower [file extension $basename]] {
.txt{::pd_menucommands::menu_opentext $dirname/
$basename
} .c{::...
(procedure menu_doc_open line 4)
invoked from within
menu_doc_open doc/1.manual 1.introduction.txt
(menu invoke)
Am 21.09.2009 um 17:13 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
Last night there was the first successful Mac OS X nightly build of
the pd-gui-rewrite branch with the whole -extended lib set. The
Ubuntu nightly has been running for a while now. The Windows build
should start showing up today or tomorrow.
http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/
Please test! The new GUI should be quite useable but its not done
yet. Time to find and fix bugs!
.hc
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Re: [PD] Art project: blur a movie on external action
Am 30.09.2009 um 14:51 schrieb vibro...@laposte.net: let me explain my project: a human guinea pig is sitting in a chair, watching is own face on a screen (realtime). An external event (real switch) triggers the image to be blurred. you can also make the mirror vibrate o blur the image. http://www.artnet.de/magazine/reviews/mania/mania07-08-09.asp?picnum=8 (Johanna Smiatek) m. PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Finding $0 and dealing with it in messages
Am 12.11.2009 um 00:19 schrieb Alexandre Porres: Hmmm, it does look simpler than I thought :) Now, where can I find this pretty Whole Word Toggle? in the devel version http://autobuild.puredata.org/auto-build/latest/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd~ and path
Hi list, please try #09a with pd = 0.42 (pd~) and see if the file opens for you. you need iemlib and a soundfile .aiff and a movie .mov with the same name, eg bassdrum.aiff bassdrum .mov here Gem can't load the movie because it doesn't find the file, allthough it is there. verbose mode doesn't tell more. 09a-pd-tilde-audio.pd Description: Binary data 09b-pd-tilde-video.pd Description: Binary data pix_buffer_filmopen.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] running Pd-extended from terminal in OS X
Doesn't work here (OS 10.6) neither with Pd-extended (0.41.4), but with PD vanilla 0.42-5 it does work. Am 15.11.2009 um 21:16 schrieb Derek Holzer: You're right, doesn't work here either, using either open or -open flag, with explicit pathnames and all. D. Rich E wrote: I can't seem to open patches from the terminal in OS X (with pd-extended, the second command works with vanilla). I try either: /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd ~/pd/externals/incr/incr-help.pd /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -open ~/pd/externals/incr/incr-help.pd without success. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ::: http://www.vimeo.com/macumbista ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 100: It is quite possible ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd patch on a website
a frequently asked question. do you mean a plugin? something like http://iem1.iaem.at/doku/iARS/ http://www.iua.upf.es/~malonso/pdplugin/ Am 14.11.2009 um 15:41 schrieb Konstantinos Benardis: Hi, I was wondering if there is a way to put a pd patch to play music on a webiste. For example lets say i have a patch which produces a melody. Is it possible to put this on a web site including the start/stop control? Thank you. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd~ and path
nevermind, just downloaded Pd version 0.42.5-extended-20091115 and it works now. Am 14.11.2009 um 22:17 schrieb Max: Hi list, please try #09a with pd = 0.42 (pd~) and see if the file opens for you. you need iemlib and a soundfile .aiff and a movie .mov with the same name, eg bassdrum.aiff bassdrum .mov here Gem can't load the movie because it doesn't find the file, allthough it is there. verbose mode doesn't tell more. 09a-pd-tilde-audio.pd 09b-pd-tilde-video.pd pix_buffer_filmopen.pd ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] video live stream on a webpage with GEM
maybe have a look at this: http://umlaeute.mur.at/Members/zmoelnig/projects/pdgst/ Am 16.11.2009 um 13:19 schrieb m...@c-m-fischer.de: Hi everybody, I don't know much about GEM, so I really appreciate any kind of help. Thanx! Basically, I would like to get the video output (pd/GEM manipulated live video) broadcasted live on the net. Is this possible? Is there something like max's jit.qt.broadcast for pd? Is a special server needed? How to get the stream embeded in a webpage? With Quicktime or Realplayer plugin? Or should I consider a completely different approach? So many questions ;-) Thank you! Best! chris ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [GEM-dev] Blending mode directly on objects, not pixes?
make the rectangle transparent with the alpha channel [alpha] [colorRGB] - use last inlet to control the alpha 0...1 Am 28.11.2009 um 17:53 schrieb Matteo Sisti Sette: Hi, Now, I don't know if this is possible at all. Suppose I have a [rectangle] (or whatever primitive indeed) with a texture, and something behind the rectangle. Is it possible to have the rectangle blend with the background with some blending mode (such as add, multiply, etc)? (without having to render all the rest of the scene except the rectangle into a texture via gemframebuffer, and then blending the two textures with pix_add and friends)??? Isn't it a matter of shaders? I guess it could be achieved using openGL functions... but is there a simple way? Thanks m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ GEM-dev mailing list gem-...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [GEM-dev] Blending mode directly on objects, not pixes?
well, you've asked for the simple way other than that the solution is pretty much outlined in your question already. Am 28.11.2009 um 18:07 schrieb Matteo Sisti Sette: Max escribió: make the rectangle transparent with the alpha channel [alpha] [colorRGB] - use last inlet to control the alpha 0...1 Well that only gives me alpha blending, I cannot do additive nor multiplicative nor difference blending etc with that, can I -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Exhibition in Sydney until the 20th of December
Hi list, if you happen to be in Sydney you are invited to go see my pd-based work in a gallery: http://www.the-generalstore.net/ Greetings, Max PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] video server that can be controlled from OSC
hi list, somewhat related to this post i've made an educational set of patches on how to interact with audio and video. a 25 mb download including video and audio files: http://web.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/index.php5/Audiovideo not yet complete, but a work in progress. comments very much appreciated. Am 01.12.2009 um 16:05 schrieb olsen: hi enrike sounds very nice! unfortunately i could not get permission to access the oscVideoServer0.1_src.tar.gz in the linux binary there's nothing left to patch a.k.a. the folder pure_data_patches is empty :( salutis ø altern wrote: Hi for an interactive installation constructed with PureData we developed using OpenFrameworks an app that allows to display and control videos, images and webcam video streams. We controlled it via OSC with a set of messages from PureData, so we wrote a PD patch that explains all OSC messages but also some abstractions that wrap the OSC messages into some objects, again this is to be used by students woth little knowledge of PD. I also wanted to implement some movement detection but since this was not finally used in the installation it is not really working well. All this could be done with GEM but we needed to get the sound track of the video files played with the video. I just thought it would be nice to share it so this is the download link for the source and binaries. Detailed info about the OSC messages and all features implemented are included in the readme file within the download folder http://ixi-audio.net/content/download/oscVideoServer any coments are welcome enrike ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ETs DNA will not be televised ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] documentation of canvas properties
yes, it is in the help patch. my_canvas-help.pd in the subpatch “pd edit” Am 17.12.2009 um 16:35 schrieb jim: Is there a place I can find documentation of how to modify canvas properties via messages ie. color label position etc.? Thanks, Jim ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] ornament sound
Hi list, here is a simple patch I'd like to share with you. If you print the attached .pdf and hold the patterns in front of the camera you can make interesting sounds. Inspired by a Fischinger exhibit at the “See This Sound” exhibition in Linz. http://www.mediaartnet.org/artist/fischinger/biography/ http://beta.see-this-sound.at/werke/296 camera_wavetable.pd Description: Binary data ornament_sound.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document mn PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] messing with the gem window
this? setandsend.pd Description: Binary data Am 29.12.2009 um 00:29 schrieb sonia yuditskaya: Hello Again List, I was wondering, and sorry if this has been brought up before, is there a way to make a message that is something like: [name $1 $2( where I can send variables to $1 and $2 dynamically and then send the message? I am trying to make a kind of control panel for gemwin where you don't have to keep manually changing the settings but can do it with something more relative like sliders, hopefully to eventually make a general control panel for all of my gem uses and not have to finick with guts anymore. any insight on messages or gem is super appreciated! -- Sonia Yuditskaya ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD with SnowLeopard
Pd currently hangs when the system is going to sleep or when you plug in or out the headphones in 10.6. If you plug in prior to the application launch then it works. i haven't found other problems then that so far. m. Am 05.01.2010 um 17:38 schrieb Morgan Evans-Weiler: Is anybody having problems running Pd extended with Snow Leopard? I'm having trouble getting it running correctly without it freezing up. It will work fine for a few minutes but soon freezes and will not let me open or close files or open or close the program. I would appreciate any help. Thanks Morgan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ornament sound
Another approach without camera: 15c-snap-3d_wavetable.pd Description: Binary data BTW: The other files from this series are there: http://web.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/File:Audiovideo.zip Am 27.12.2009 um 15:21 schrieb Max: hi patrick! here is a version which works with images for those of you without a webcam – but: it's much more fun with a webcam. thanks hans, kyle and cyrille for your comments. snap_wavetable.pd pddeco1.jpg Am 22.12.2009 um 06:23 schrieb patrick: very nice. i was trying to load an image but without success. is it possible? here's a jpeg of the first page of the pdf. pddeco1.jpg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM pix_mix problem
either convert the colorspaces so they are the same for the pixes you want to mix with pix_mix, or simply stack the two images over each other in the Z axis [1] and manipulate the alpha [2] of the one in the foreground. [1] for instance with [translateXYZ 0 0 -0.01] [2] use [alpha] and [colorRGB] m. Am 22.01.2010 um 14:05 schrieb Christian Fischer: hi list, some beginner GM problem here when I try to mix a video with a picture with pix_mix, I always get this failure message: [pix_mix]: no method to combine (YUV) and (RGBA) I used for the video and the picture many different color modes. bur even with a bitmap picture the failure message shows up any suggestions? many thanks in advance! best! chris ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Small bug with comment
there is a bug in vanilla and even in the latest rewrite, that dots followed by a space are disappearing after saving and reopening patches. make the first line in this patch read first 1. - see there is no dot! after reopening you'll see: first 1 - see there is no dot! comments.pd Description: Binary data Am 09.02.2010 um 18:09 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: Nightly builds are available on some platforms too: http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewrite .hc On Feb 9, 2010, at 7:04 AM, Pierre Massat wrote: Ok, i'll check whether the bug is still there and I'll report to the list. 2010/2/9 James Dunn ja...@4thharmonic.com It's the latest version of pd (still in development) which includes a rewrite of the GUI (graphical user interface) and can be downloaded from here: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/branches/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43/ James Quoth Pierre Massat, on 09/02/10 07:59: Sorry, what is Pd-gui-rewrite/0.43?? 2010/2/9 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Does this still happen with Pd-gui-rewrite/0.43? .hc On Feb 5, 2010, at 1:46 PM, cyrille henry wrote: thats because it is compiled with TCL 8.5 and not 8.4 c Pierre Massat a écrit : hi, I believe i ve found a (quite unsignificant) bug related to the comment object. I m using the latest Pd-extended on laptop with a french keyboard layout, and with the latest Fedora as OS. Whenever i type é in a comment, the line which contains this letter just disappears. This is no big deal for most users. But this letter is used fairly often (to say the least) in French. Just thought I should report this. Pierre ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives., from The Idols of Environmentalism, by Curtis White ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Sound FX for Games
You'll probably find the Papers by Andy Farnell interesting: http://obiwannabe.co.uk/html/sound-design/sound-design-all.html Am 11.02.2010 um 12:03 schrieb Alvar Lahoz: Hi Everyone, It's my first message to list. Recently I'm interested to entry to world of games, i worked in a post production studio and i was making sound for films. I have concepts of Pure Data, but i don't know how i can work it with games. Someone can give me a tutorial for noobs? Thanks. Àlvar ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] diff frame from previous frame with Gem
hi hans, why so complicated? just use [pix_delay 2] and [pix_separator] to feed the [pix_diff]. 05a-difference.pd Description: Binary data taken from http://web.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/Bewegungsmelder Am 03.03.2010 um 23:39 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: I am trying to make a simple patch where the current video frame is [pix_diff]'ed against the previous video frame. I can get it going manually, but I would like it to happen every frame. I think I got close, but did manage to create a bizarre effect: framechangetracking.pd .hc I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone. --Bjarne Stroustrup (creator of C++) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] diff frame from previous frame with Gem
pix_delay actually works exactly that way. its not milliseconds, it's frames. have a look at the helppatch fo pix_delay m. Am 10.03.2010 um 17:36 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: Your patch is pretty simple, but it seems to be that the logic of this operation should be based off of the frame clock rather than a delay. That way, the patch would work no matter the frame rate, for example. .hc On Mar 10, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Max wrote: hi hans, why so complicated? just use [pix_delay 2] and [pix_separator] to feed the [pix_diff]. 05a-difference.pd taken from http://web.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/Bewegungsmelder Am 03.03.2010 um 23:39 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: I am trying to make a simple patch where the current video frame is [pix_diff]'ed against the previous video frame. I can get it going manually, but I would like it to happen every frame. I think I got close, but did manage to create a bizarre effect: framechangetracking.pd .hc I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone. --Bjarne Stroustrup (creator of C++) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] acceleration - deceleration between coordinates - how to do this?
i use this patch to decide which function suits the application best: skalierungen.pd Description: Binary data Am 16.03.2010 um 20:59 schrieb Thomas Jeppesen: Hi guys, I'm working on a patch (rjdj scene) where I'm moving a little object around on a plane. The object is been given random coordinates which it is supposed to gradually move to in five seconds. Right now my solution is to bang the x- and y-coordinates into a line-object which works fine, but I'd prefer for the movement to be more natural. By natural I mean that the object accelerates in the beginning and then decellerates near the end until it comes to a full stop at the exact coordinates that where randomly produced.. I've been trying to get my head around a solution for quite a while now, but unfortunately no luck so far. I'm sure this must be simple stuff for some of you PD-geniuses out there, and I'm hoping that one of you will stand up and show me how it's done :) Thanks in advance, Thomas :) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] mapping_video
nice interface! Am 30.03.2010 um 12:54 schrieb kubriel: hallo, i made quite user friendly projection mapping abstraction for video. it is based on curve3d(thanks to iohannes), but with useful and fast interface, as you know from moving rectangles in inkscape. i used it to make this instalation http://www.direkt.sk/_/bx/feedback/13.jpg this is, how the interface looks http://www.direkt.sk/_/mapping_video.png http://www.direkt.sk/_/mapping_video.zip mapping_video.zip, (5,9Kb): mappingvideo-MAINPATCH.pd - to check whats going on try this pytagoras.pd vertex.pd videoplayer.pd stred_bodov.pd video_ext.pd - this is the object itself it is pretty big mess, i know. also names of abstractions are not very clean, i can make it better if somebody wants to modify it. it is only what i used, i offer to you, with hope to help somebody have a nice day ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] OS X 10.6: unplugging headphones crashes Pd
it's not fixed by the OS update. i only had this phenomenon if GEM was involved too and submitted that to the bugtracker a while ago http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=2929298group_id=55736atid=478070 if you can make a patch where GEM is not involved and it still crashes with Pd when the phone is unplugged then that would be good to post here. max Am 30.03.2010 um 02:36 schrieb Nils Sundtrom: I had garageband crash when I unplugged the headphones yesterday, I wonder if there update today fixed the issue. Nils On 10-03-27 11:00 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yeah, I've seen some Leopard issues with audio too. I blame Apple ;). I think the issue is in portaudio, so hopefully that will get fixed, then I can update it in Pd-extended. Have anyone on 10.6 tried a recently 0.42.5 nightly? .hc On Mar 26, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote: Had the same problem with my students. Jack seems to work well for most of them, but few still have random crash. M On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl wrote: Sorry for the added noise, this meant for the Pd list, not Pd-announce... D. On 3/26/10 3:27 PM, Derek Holzer wrote: This is a new one to me, but four of my students can reproduce it every time with Mac OS 10.6, with or without JACK, using Pd-Extended 0.41.4. Unplugging or plugging the headphones while Pd is running freezes Pd completely, requiring a Force Quit. It does this regardless of whether audio processing is turned on or off. I tried looking at Aggregate Devices, however the built-in output already appears as one device. Anybody know how to fix this one? D. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 161: Trust in the you of now ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] OS X 10.6: unplugging headphones crashes Pd
i can _not_ reproduce that with *any* patch here. the sound is gone after unplugging headphones, but disabling it an re-enabeling it in the Pd window makes the Sound come back on the internal speakers. Not the desired way but no crash or freeze either. m. Am 30.03.2010 um 16:00 schrieb Derek Holzer: Well, in my workshop, *any* patch would do it no sense in posting one. D. On 3/30/10 3:34 PM, Max wrote: it's not fixed by the OS update. i only had this phenomenon if GEM was involved too and submitted that to the bugtracker a while ago http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=2929298group_id=55736atid=478070 if you can make a patch where GEM is not involved and it still crashes with Pd when the phone is unplugged then that would be good to post here. max Am 30.03.2010 um 02:36 schrieb Nils Sundtrom: I had garageband crash when I unplugged the headphones yesterday, I wonder if there update today fixed the issue. Nils On 10-03-27 11:00 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yeah, I've seen some Leopard issues with audio too. I blame Apple ;). I think the issue is in portaudio, so hopefully that will get fixed, then I can update it in Pd-extended. Have anyone on 10.6 tried a recently 0.42.5 nightly? .hc On Mar 26, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote: Had the same problem with my students. Jack seems to work well for most of them, but few still have random crash. M On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Derek Holzerde...@umatic.nl wrote: Sorry for the added noise, this meant for the Pd list, not Pd-announce... D. On 3/26/10 3:27 PM, Derek Holzer wrote: This is a new one to me, but four of my students can reproduce it every time with Mac OS 10.6, with or without JACK, using Pd-Extended 0.41.4. Unplugging or plugging the headphones while Pd is running freezes Pd completely, requiring a Force Quit. It does this regardless of whether audio processing is turned on or off. I tried looking at Aggregate Devices, however the built-in output already appears as one device. Anybody know how to fix this one? D. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 161: Trust in the you of now ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 201: What were the branch points in the evolution of this entity? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
