On 4/15/07, Peter Lacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Juan,
Please, help me save $5000 and stay on the Pentax side...
do you have _ALL_ Limited lenses already? ;-)
So what did you decide, Juan, and how are the results?
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On 4/15/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 15/04/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would like a film Leica, but the cost, my style of photography and
the fact that it would lie idle, keeps me from entertaining such
extravagant notions.
Oh come on Dave, I can't
: Please unenable me!
As some of you know, I've been missing my Leica rangefinder since I
returned to Pentax in 2004 with an istD.
Now, I wasn't really thinking seriously about buying an M8 until
today, when two things happened: I realized I'm getting a nice tax
refund that I wasn't counting on (I
If you have the money and can afford it, why not? Especially if you
have lenses that you can use on it.
If I still had my Leica M lenses, I'd have done something to get one.
But I sold all that stuff off in 2002 and find I'm happier with the
SLR camera.
G
On Apr 13, 2007, at 5:33 PM, Juan
On 13/4/07, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed:
Please, help me save $5000 and stay on the Pentax side...
Or, help me rationalize this crazy purchase :)
Don't rationalise - follow your heart.
I'd love one.
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Emne: Please unenable me!
As some of you know, I've been missing my Leica rangefinder since I
returned to Pentax in 2004 with an istD.
Now, I wasn't really thinking seriously about buying an M8 until
today, when two things happened: I
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Emne: Please unenable me!
As some of you know, I've been missing my Leica rangefinder since I
returned to Pentax in 2004 with an istD.
Now, I wasn't really thinking
Juan Buhler escribió:
As some of you know, I've been missing my Leica rangefinder since I
returned to Pentax in 2004 with an istD.
Now, I wasn't really thinking seriously about buying an M8 until
today, when two things happened: I realized I'm getting a nice tax
refund that I wasn't
On 4/14/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well said! This is the kind of rich know-nothing idiot who uses
Leicas:
http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2003/jul/cbresson/corbis/
cbresson_ut0143043.jpg
Bah. That guy looks like a painter, actually.
I'd much rather look like this one:
Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do have an M6, with a Summicron 50, a Voigtlander 28/3.5, and a
Jupiter 35/2.8. And I still use it, lately I've been shooting color
film with it so I can have almost the same bw workflow as I use with
digital.
The M6 is the camera I 'learned' to do
On 14/4/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
Well said! This is the kind of rich know-nothing idiot who uses
Leicas:
http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2003/jul/cbresson/corbis/
cbresson_ut0143043.jpg
Yeah, he's crap isn't he.
Juan, if you really want to be this sort of person,
On 4/14/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well said! This is the kind of rich know-nothing idiot who uses
Leicas:
http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2003/jul/cbresson/corbis/
cbresson_ut0143043.jpg
Bah. That guy looks like a painter, actually.
I'd much rather look
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On 4/14/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well said! This is the kind of rich know-nothing idiot who uses
Leicas:
http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2003/jul
Seriously lovely camera, but overpriced even by Leica standards.
Your photographic efforts would be served much better if your $5000
(plus whatever lenses cost) were spent elsewhere. Even a trip somewhere
interesting to shoot photos.
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You have to warn us when you're going to post something like that. I
damn near ruined my keyboard spraying coffee all over it...
Juan Buhler wrote:
On 4/14/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well said! This is the kind of rich know-nothing idiot who uses
Leicas:
life. People buy
an M8 for the same resons you buy a Porche, Ferrari or BMW.
Take your Pentax to the ballgame, the beach, the hike,
anywhere you go - to
take pictures. The SLR/DSLR is the choise of photographers.
People buy a
DSLR to take pictures.
Well said! This is the kind of
Thinking a little more on this and reading the sentiments posted
after mine ...
I know a lot of Leica owners. Many are wealthy lawyers and doctors
who hobby in photography, that's true. But many are also very
talented and passionate photographers who use their Leica equipment,
much as I
Even the diehard Leica shooters are a bit unhappy with the M8. I
think that is the sentiment that is reflected in most of these
comments. It has nothing to do with envy or bigotry. If I were
looking for a Leica digital, I would wait for the next version. And
if I could afford one, I would
Furthermore, look at the subject: Please unenable me! He asked for
arguments against a Leica purchase. He got 'em.
Paul
On Apr 14, 2007, at 10:54 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Even the diehard Leica shooters are a bit unhappy with the M8. I
think that is the sentiment that is reflected in most
P. J. Alling wrote:
You could have an Epson RD-1 for about half that.
More like one fifth, methinks.
Boris
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Going OT:
Gmail doesn't seem to like you at times Boris :-) I read these message
earlier today from my other email address, and it's just now shown up
in my Gmail inbox. 10 hours late.
That's the second time this week that's happened to messages from you.
Oh well!!
Cheers,
Dave (Cotty, don't
On 14/4/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
Gmail doesn't seem to like you at times Boris :-) I read these message
earlier today from my other email address, and it's just now shown up
in my Gmail inbox. 10 hours late.
That's the second time this week that's happened to messages from
OK, send you tax return check to me, properly endorsed, and I will
guarantee you will not spend it on a Leica Juan gives out the best
straight lines on the list.
-graywolf
Juan Buhler wrote:
As some of you know, I've been missing my Leica rangefinder since I
returned to Pentax in 2004 with
On 4/14/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 14/4/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
Gmail doesn't seem to like you at times Boris :-) I read these message
earlier today from my other email address, and it's just now shown up
in my Gmail inbox. 10 hours late.
That's the second
Juan,
Please, help me save $5000 and stay on the Pentax side...
do you have _ALL_ Limited lenses already? ;-)
Cheers,
Peter
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Thanks, that's fairly strange.
Boris
David Savage wrote:
Going OT:
Gmail doesn't seem to like you at times Boris :-) I read these message
earlier today from my other email address, and it's just now shown up
in my Gmail inbox. 10 hours late.
That's the second time this week that's
On 4/14/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Furthermore, look at the subject: Please unenable me! He asked for
arguments against a Leica purchase. He got 'em.
Paul
Of course. I'm not one to make a purchase like this lightly, even if I
can afford it.
About the next version: knowing
On 4/14/07, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is no easy way around this - the Leica M8 IS a lovely camera.?
But it's not for the same work as a Pentax DSLR. Can you imagine shooting
soccer game (with a 170-500mm zoom) with a M8?
Sure. You can say a similar thing about doing street
Furthermore, look at the subject: Please unenable me! He asked for
arguments against a Leica purchase. He got 'em.
Paul
Of course. I'm not one to make a purchase like this lightly, even if I
can afford it.
About the next version: knowing Leica, that might well be in 5-8 years
The four pros whom I know personally that use Leica M cameras for
their work differ with your comments. All four are nationally
published and quite successful. They don't think the M8 is perfect
but it is proving to be a boon to their work.
Godfrey
On Apr 14, 2007, at 7:54 AM, Paul
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 11:13:55AM -0700, Juan Buhler wrote:
On 4/14/07, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is no easy way around this - the Leica M8 IS a lovely camera.?
But it's not for the same work as a Pentax DSLR. Can you imagine shooting
soccer game (with a 170-500mm zoom)
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Seriously lovely camera, but overpriced even by Leica standards.
Your photographic efforts would be served much better if your $5000
(plus
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Emne: RE: Please unenable me!
My photo dealer had his M8 repaired recently. The rangefinder needed
adjustment.
The M8 was returned in a wooden box, filled with foam, cut out to fit the
camera! The box was sealed with a wax seal. And it came with a 1 year
warranty (or was that 2 years
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DiGiorgi
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Thinking a little more on this and reading the sentiments posted
after mine ...
I know a lot of Leica owners. Many are wealthy
On 4/15/07, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PS:
My dealer want's to sell me a M6 - NEW. For 1500 USD. Is that too expensive?
Regards
Only if you never use it. :-)
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On 4/14/07, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is no easy way around this - the Leica M8 IS a lovely camera.?
But it's not for the same work as a Pentax DSLR. Can you imagine shooting
soccer game (with a 170-500mm zoom) with a M8?
Sure. You can say
On 4/14/07, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My dealer want's to sell me a M6 - NEW. For 1500 USD. Is that too expensive?
Yes. Buy a Rebel XT instead--you'll be much better off.
j
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On 4/14/07, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please, help me save $5000 and stay on the Pentax side...
Or, help me rationalize this crazy purchase :)
If you can afford it, go for it I say. Considering your style of
photography it appears to be the right tool for the job. And If it
turns
Only four? I've spoken to quite a few more than four Leica pros. Your
sample is flawed.
Paul
On Apr 14, 2007, at 3:22 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
The four pros whom I know personally that use Leica M cameras for
their work differ with your comments. All four are nationally
published and
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Thinking a little more on this and reading the sentiments posted
after mine ...
I know a lot of Leica owners. Many are wealthy lawyers and doctors
who
I said the four pros whom I know *personally*, emphasis added,
Paul. There are many others that I don't know personally but know of
who are using the M8 and finding it a good camera. The biggest reason
to want an M8 is that you have a large investment in the lenses and
want to put them to
On 15/04/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would like a film Leica, but the cost, my style of photography and
the fact that it would lie idle, keeps me from entertaining such
extravagant notions.
Oh come on Dave, I can't afford it and I have two Leica bodies sitting
idle (though I
On 14/04/07, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As some of you know, I've been missing my Leica rangefinder since I
returned to Pentax in 2004 with an istD.
Now, I wasn't really thinking seriously about buying an M8 until
today, when two things happened: I realized I'm getting a nice tax
Juan Buhler wrote:
Dude that's presumptuous. I drive a late 90's Honda, worth about half
what that M8 would cost. I don't care to get a new car. I do care to
have a camera that works the way I work in the street. IOW, the
features I need from a car I can get from a cheap Honda. The ones I'd
I agree. And I do think that it could be the right camera for Juan.
However, i have doubts about it holding its resale value as well as
other Leicas, and it's performance is just okay. For many Leica pros
that has made it a tough decision. A lot of them have opted to stick
with film (or
: Please unenable me!
My photo dealer had his M8 repaired recently. The rangefinder needed
adjustment.
The M8 was returned in a wooden box, filled with foam, cut out to fit the
camera! The box was sealed with a wax seal. And it came with a 1 year
warranty (or was that 2 years ?). Ths warranty
Juan,
Here's an idea: Look at it as a tool. From your prolific output, it looks
to me like you spend quite a bit of time behind the viewfinder. If you
think you're going to get better results and/or enjoy the experience more,
then you should go for it.
One more thought: it ain't cheap, but
As some of you know, I've been missing my Leica rangefinder since I
returned to Pentax in 2004 with an istD.
Now, I wasn't really thinking seriously about buying an M8 until
today, when two things happened: I realized I'm getting a nice tax
refund that I wasn't counting on (I know, it was my
Please, help me save $5000 and stay on the Pentax side...
Or, help me rationalize this crazy purchase :)
If you get it, won't you have to use those special filters Leica is giving
out to deal with the IR sensitivity issue? I don't know if you have other
Leica lenses, but I'd hate to have
Good Lord, man...don't do it.
Way too much money for that camera.
Get some good glass instead. Or, spend it on a M6 or
M7 and a couple of lenses.
-Brendan
--- Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As some of you know, I've been missing my Leica
rangefinder since I
returned to Pentax in 2004
I've played with one. Nice camera. Worth about $2000, I'd say.
paul
On Apr 13, 2007, at 8:33 PM, Juan Buhler wrote:
As some of you know, I've been missing my Leica rangefinder since I
returned to Pentax in 2004 with an istD.
Now, I wasn't really thinking seriously about buying an M8 until
Great Camera, Buy it!
Juan Buhler wrote:
As some of you know, I've been missing my Leica rangefinder since I
returned to Pentax in 2004 with an istD.
Now, I wasn't really thinking seriously about buying an M8 until
today, when two things happened: I realized I'm getting a nice tax
refund
John Celio wrote:
Please, help me save $5000 and stay on the Pentax side...
Or, help me rationalize this crazy purchase :)
If you get it, won't you have to use those special filters Leica is giving
out to deal with the IR sensitivity issue? I don't know if you have other
Leica lenses,
Juan, I've been wondering for a long time why don't you shoot range
finder. It is so much fits your style.
I cannot say much for M8, but if you could still use film, I think it
would be preferable. I honestly think M8 was served not fully cooked, so
to say.
Otherwise - if you can - go for it.
You could have an Epson RD-1 for about half that.
Juan Buhler wrote:
As some of you know, I've been missing my Leica rangefinder since I
returned to Pentax in 2004 with an istD.
Now, I wasn't really thinking seriously about buying an M8 until
today, when two things happened: I realized I'm
Me so wrong. My apologies, I was under wrong impression that Epson was
like $1,800 what it came out...
Boris
Boris Liberman wrote:
P. J. Alling wrote:
You could have an Epson RD-1 for about half that.
More like one fifth, methinks.
Boris
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I do have an M6, with a Summicron 50, a Voigtlander 28/3.5, and a
Jupiter 35/2.8. And I still use it, lately I've been shooting color
film with it so I can have almost the same bw workflow as I use with
digital.
The M6 is the camera I 'learned' to do street photography with, that's
why the M8
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