Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-24 Thread Gonz
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi, I guess I should have mentioned that I've seen the exhibit several times, so I know about the light. A tripod isn't mandatory, although, for some shots, it could be useful. Blur might be nice, BTW ... Ok, I'll change that to would make a big difference from

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi, I don't have any F4.0 lenses ;-(( What I meant about the t'pod is that, in a lot of cases, the camera can be put directly against the glass, obviating the need for additional support yet allowing for stability and longer shutter speeds/greater DOF. Shel [Original Message] From: Gonz

Re: Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-23 Thread mike wilson
From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/02/23 Thu AM 02:12:34 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Photographing the Jellies http://www.mccullagh.org/theme/monterey-aquarium-jellyfish.html -- http://pug.komkon.org/04aug/jllyfsh1.html

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-23 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I've just been so busy lately with some local issues, but I'll have some time next week. Check with me next Thursday. Shel [Original Message] From: Gautam Sarup On 2/22/06, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Nothing like a little hubris first thing in the AM, eh LOL 'Tis nothing, come back

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:53:24PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I'm going to try to take some time off and head down to the Monterey Bay Aquarium for some R n R. Photographing the jellyfish exhibit has been on my to do list for a while. Has anyone photographed the exhibit - any suggestions?

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Shel, Just got back from there on Saturday. I can tell you two things not to do. 1) Don't go with the kids - mine were constantly wanting to move on. 2) Don't go when the aquarium is jam packed (like Saturday). The crowds make it difficult to shoot. So for me not really being prepared

Re: Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread mike wilson
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/02/22 Wed AM 08:24:03 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Photographing the Jellies On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 10:53:24PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I'm going to try to take some time off and head down to the Monterey Bay

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Bruce, Well, I won't be taking any kids, and my schedule allows mid-week visits. I'd probably go on a Tuesday or Wednesday, and try to get in as close to opening time as possible. Not sure if I'll have replaced the digi by then, although I'd like to try it for this project. Your shot's quite

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi John, Thanks for your input. I believe that I can make better photos than the fellow who put up that gallery, and that I'll be able to get better shots, and better quality shots. Nothing like a little hubris first thing in the AM, eh LOL Do you think digital would have helped you get better

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Christian
Bruce Dayton wrote: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2912.htm That's an awesome shot, Bruce. Well done! The best way to photograph jellies is under controlled studio lighting in small aquariums that limit the animal's movement. Obviously not possible in a public place. I think Bruce

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
At the Monterey Bay Aquarium, you can get right up to the glass on most of the Outer Bay exhibits. Bring a monopod with a ball head or flex head on it. A tripod is unwieldy in the often crowded, dimly lit areas, but a monopod will be fine. Light levels are low and you need something to

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread David Savage
That's a cool shot Bruce. Dave On 2/22/06, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld ISO 1600, 1/60 sec @ f/4.0, 45mm http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2912.htm

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Shel, You can get right up to the glass if you want. The shot I showed was not against the glass. One of the biggest problems you are going to have is that the jellies are always moving. You can't have too slow of a shutter speed. This is where digital would do way better than film.

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread John Francis
Digital is at it's best when dealing with large, uniform expanses such as the blue of the jellyfish tanks; the noise from high-ISO film shows up rather too much for my liking. On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 07:02:11AM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi John, Thanks for your input. I believe that I

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread jtainter
Here's one of my efforts: http://pug.komkon.org/04aug/jllyfsh1.html I've never tried this, but I understand the best results are obtained by (1) lens against the glass and (2) flash against the glass. Joe

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
There's a sameness to all the jellie-pix I've seen, no matter how nice they may be. I really want something different. Flash? What's that? Shel [Original Message] From: jtainter Here's one of my efforts: http://pug.komkon.org/04aug/jllyfsh1.html I've never tried this, but I

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Gonz
I have, the light is very low, so you have to use high iso or the movement will show up as blur. Of course it goes without saying that a tripod is mandatory. Shel Belinkoff wrote: I'm going to try to take some time off and head down to the Monterey Bay Aquarium for some R n R. Photographing

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread frank theriault
On 2/22/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a sameness to all the jellie-pix I've seen, no matter how nice they may be. I really want something different. snip Shel, I'm offended. That's a very specieist comment. The pix to which you refer don't look the same to other

RE: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 February 2006 21:09 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Photographing the Jellies There's a sameness to all the jellie-pix I've seen, no matter how nice they may be. I really want something

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread frank theriault
On 2/22/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's an exhibition, isn't it? Nail them to the wall! I thought many of the pictures shown were quite nice, but as you say, a bit samey. But isn't that in the nature of jellyfish? I mean, what else are they going to do all day but float around?

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Rob Studdert
On 22 Feb 2006 at 10:23, Christian wrote: The best way to photograph jellies is under controlled studio lighting in small aquariums that limit the animal's movement. Obviously not possible in a public place. I think Bruce made the best of the situation: High ISO and wide open. Use as

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Christian
Rob Studdert wrote: Big rubber hoods Did we change the subject? ooh I hope so! :-) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Christian
frank theriault wrote: So, another anti-medusite, eh? -frank That depends frank... Stinging or stingless? Rightside up or upside down? Where do you stand on the issues? eh? These Cnidarians are a divisive bunch. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi, I guess I should have mentioned that I've seen the exhibit several times, so I know about the light. A tripod isn't mandatory, although, for some shots, it could be useful. Blur might be nice, BTW ... On a separate note, your Mitch Hedberg sig got me to rent one of his DVD's. Thanks! Shel

RE: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Perhaps some creative or innovate techniques might enhance the photographic viewing experience. They don't just float around. Some are quite capable of initiating and maintaining movement on their own. Shel [Original Message] From: Bob W I thought many of the pictures shown were quite

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Bruce Dayton
Shel, One thought I had was to take a multi exposure or perhaps just cover the lens while on bulb - first shot, then some movement, then another image and so on. Sort of showing a directional move, rather than just a blurred move. -- Bruce Wednesday, February 22, 2006, 4:09:33 PM, you wrote:

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Interspersed Shel [Original Message] From: Bruce Dayton You can get right up to the glass if you want. I was hoping that was still the case. I'd like to make a few pics with the camera resting directly on the glass, eliminating the need for t- or mono-pods and perhaps allowing for

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Oooo - I like that idea. Shel [Original Message] From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Shel Belinkoff pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: 2/22/2006 4:25:40 PM Subject: Re: Photographing the Jellies Shel, One thought I had was to take a multi exposure or perhaps just cover the lens while

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frank theriault wrote: So, another anti-medusite, eh? That depends frank... Stinging or stingless? Rightside up or upside down? Where do you stand on the issues? eh? These Cnidarians are a divisive bunch. Cnidarians and Canadians! Do we celebrate

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Bruce Dayton
Interpersed, too. -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, February 22, 2006, 4:25:53 PM, you wrote: SB Interspersed SB Shel [Original Message] From: Bruce Dayton You can get right up to the glass if you want. SB I was hoping that was still the case. I'd like to make a few pics with

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Kenneth Waller
: Re: Photographing the Jellies Shel, One thought I had was to take a multi exposure or perhaps just cover the lens while on bulb - first shot, then some movement, then another image and so on. Sort of showing a directional move, rather than just a blurred move. -- Bruce Wednesday, February 22

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Joseph Tainter
There's a sameness to all the jellie-pix I've seen, no matter how nice they may be. I really want something different. Flash? What's that? Shel -- Shel, when you achieve your innovation, please share it with us. Joe

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Joseph Tainter
http://www.mccullagh.org/theme/monterey-aquarium-jellyfish.html -- http://pug.komkon.org/04aug/jllyfsh1.html -- There's a sameness to all the jellie-pix I've seen, no matter how nice they may be. Shel -- Shel, that's just not so. The first batch are all pointing

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Christian Subject: Re: Photographing the Jellies These Cnidarians are a divisive bunch. We prefer Canadarians. William Robb

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Keith McGuinness
Bruce Dayton wrote: So for me not really being prepared to shoot, here is probably the best shot I managed. I only had the DA 16-45/4 lens with me, so speed was an issue. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld ISO 1600, 1/60 sec @ f/4.0, 45mm http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2912.htm I think

Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-22 Thread Gautam Sarup
On 2/22/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your input. I believe that I can make better photos than the fellow who put up that gallery, and that I'll be able to get better shots, and better quality shots. Nothing like a little hubris first thing in the AM, eh LOL 'Tis